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=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash
Robert45Thunar freezes randomly when copying files. What should I do? Tried to look for any logs but didn't find them.10:56
diogenes_Robert45, when copying video files?10:58
Robert45No, any files10:58
Robert45For example, audio files with album-covers...10:59
diogenes_only thunar freezes or everything gets laggy?11:00
Robert45only thunar freezes11:00
diogenes_maybe it's tumbler's fault, try killing it and copy something.11:01
Robert45uh-huh, I tried to copy 6 directories about 15 times and every time it froze. Now it (f i n a l l y) didn't, but I tried copying some other 3 directories. And it froze. Tried killing tumblerd, it is killed by now, and nothing happens11:11
Robert45If it is indeed tumbler's fault, should it work properly if I'm going to kill tumblerd before any copying processes?11:12
Robert45but tumblerd opens every time I copy files...11:20
diogenes_Robert45, also observe iotop when copying.11:22
Robert45everything is 0.00 B/s after a freeze11:26
brainwashRobert45: you can disable thumbnail creation in the settings11:39
brainwashlatest thunar and tumbler can be installed from https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/staging11:41
Robert45disabling thumbnail creation didn't help (if I did it right: Desktop Settings... > Icons > unticked 'Show thumbnails')11:58
Robert45Packages from launchpad considered unstable, aren't they? Is it worth installing from this PPA?11:58
Robert45Currently I have latest thunar and tumbler for eoan, but not from launchpad11:59
brainwashRobert45: that will the change the behaviour for the desktop12:04
brainwashthunar preferences > show thumbnails > never12:04
Guest18Hi guys! I'm on a fresh Xubuntu install and apt update && apt upgrade gives me this error:12:05
Guest18dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: loading files list file for package 'libfont-afm-perl': cannot read /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfont-afm-perl.list (Input/output error)E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)12:05
Guest18Any recommendations?12:05
brainwashRobert45: installing the newer versions certainly could help to see if the problem was fixed in the meantime12:05
brainwashRobert45: alternatively, you could boot the xubuntu 20.04 daily ISO and try to reproduce the issue12:06
brainwashGuest18: my recommendation would be to ask in #ubuntu12:07
Robert45I cannot, because the hard drive is encrypted12:07
diogenes_Guest18, that sounds as bad sectors.12:07
Robert45Thank you, I'll keep trying12:07
Guest18diogenes_: I don't know what you mean by that, sorry12:07
diogenes_Guest18, hard drive is getting worn out, bad, but in theory.12:09
Robert90I installed libpango-1.0-0 libpango-1.0-0:i386 thunar thunar-data tumbler tumbler-common13:11
Robert90from the ppa… and the pc doesn't boot any more13:11
brainwashRobert90: libpango?13:12
Robert90i typed "sudo apt install thunar" and libpango was also to install13:13
brainwashodd13:16
brainwashand what does not work now?13:17
Robert90it tries to run a… login manager but the display seems to turn on and off instantly13:18
brainwashhow is that related to thunar/tumbler though?13:18
brainwashfrom where is that libpango package?13:19
Robert90I don't know. I reinstalled them from the ppa as I was told to try out, rebooted the pc and I can't log in.13:19
Robert90from focal, I suppose…13:20
brainwashyou could switch to a TTY, login and reinstall the previous package versions13:20
Robert90Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6? i tried, doesn't work13:20
brainwashthat is outside of the scope of what those installed packages touch13:21
brainwashlogs in /var/log/apt will tell you what exactly was changed package-wise13:22
Robert90The hard drive is encrypted13:23
brainwashjust remembered that13:23
brainwashtry to boot directly to text mode13:23
Robert90How?13:24
brainwashhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters13:27
brainwashparameter "text" should do the trick13:27
Robert90I does not understand parameter "text"…13:52
Robert90It*13:52
diogenes_try: systemd.unit=multi-user.target13:58
Robert90does not work14:02
diogenes_Robert90, then boot a live usb and chroot.14:03
Robert90I don't have a PC from which I could make a usb-iso14:03
Robert90it is the only pc I have, I'm texting these messages from my phone now14:04
diogenes_try recovery mode in grub14:04
diogenes_and don't run commands that you randomly find on internet.14:05
Robert90I've already tried, but it does not let me either turn on the network or read/write mode14:05
Robert90I don't run commands that I randomly find on the internet, I just told what you did — installed unstable packages from the ppa14:06
diogenes_Robert90, i didn't tell you anything did i?14:07
Robert90I don't remember all your names, I'm deeply sorry14:07
Robert90No offence intended14:07
diogenes_Robert90, ok one of the big hammer approach, at grub linux line, remove everything (except if there is anything regarding your encryption) and add this line instead: init=/bin/bash14:08
diogenes_and ctrl+x to boot14:09
brainwashyou must have done something on top of just installing newer versions of thunar and tumbler14:09
diogenes_after it boots in text mode, run: mount / (it's gonna tell you something like /dev/sda1 is already mounted)14:10
brainwashthose versions are marked as stable by upstream and are packaged by the Xubuntu team14:10
diogenes_then you do: mount -o remount --rw /dev/sd114:10
brainwashbut it's encrypted14:11
diogenes_and now you gonna be having a root shell where you can try to fix your issue, but now i need to go so hopefully someone could assist you further on.14:11
diogenes_brainwash, isn't there a shell command to decrypt?14:11
diogenes_i got no clue i never encrypted anything in my life.14:12
brainwashI never played around with it14:12
* diogenes_ is offline14:12
brainwashagain, I still see no connection between updating thunar/tumbler and not being able to start the display manager anymore, or being able to switch to a TTY14:13
Robert90I don't either14:14
brainwashbut it surely makes things difficult to debug14:14
brainwashthe encryption part14:14
Robert90I removed at grub linux line, but it does not boot…  I suppose I didn't have to take that instruction literally…?14:14
Robert90yeah, i know… but someone likes to steal my files from the pc lol :( that's why it's encrypted, uh… what a pity14:15
brainwashremoving a line completely does not sound like something one should do14:16
Robert90aaaah, only one line?14:16
brainwashI guess it's not clear what you did14:17
brainwash"I removed at grub linux line"14:17
brainwashto me it sounds like you deleted the whole line14:17
Robert90I'm sorry, I'm not a native speaker, my bad. I meant I removed every line at grub linux14:18
Robert90but it seems I shouldn't…14:18
brainwashthose changes are temporary only, aren't they?14:18
Robert90yes, but I didn't understand which lines should I remove14:19
Robert90otherwise it doesn't boot14:19
brainwashwhat happened after you added "text" after "quit splash" and hit ctrl+x ?14:19
brainwashmaybe remove "quiet" and "splash" to have a verbose boot log output14:20
Robert90same thing happened14:26
brainwashdid you see text scrolling down during boot?14:27
Robert90I typed "text" after "quiet splash", the same happened… removed that — same…14:27
Robert90Yes, I did14:27
brainwashand "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" instead of "text" you got the same result?14:28
Robert90No, it suddenly worked, tty launched, but I cannot reinstall those packages, should I type "remove" and then "install"?14:35
brainwashsure14:36
Robert90thank you so mucg14:36
Robert90much*14:36
brainwashor like said before, sudo apt install thunar=<version> tumbler=<version> and so on14:36
brainwashbut for that you'll have to look up the exact version string14:37
brainwashso, just removing and reinstalling should be faster14:37
brainwashyou'll have to disable the PPA of course14:38
Robert90but it removed 200 packages… definitely not faster :D14:38
Robert90i disabled it in the recovery mode earlier14:38
brainwashohh14:38
brainwash200 is a lot14:38
brainwashinstalling the meta-package "xubuntu-desktop" may fix that14:39
brainwashit should pull back in all needed packages14:39
Robert90I just thought of that idea :)14:39
Robert90through the tasksel14:39
brainwashlogs are in /var/log/apt14:40
brainwashin case something is missing14:40
Robert90OK, I appreciate your help :)14:40
brainwashafterwards I mean14:40
brainwashno problem14:40
Guest_66Hello I humbly need help restoring a corrupted file in firefox. Details to follow.16:10
Guest_66There is a password protected file that keeps all my login info. It got corrupted in a power failure. I found a 'fix' for windows related to previous versions, but I do not know how to fix in xubuntu.16:12
brainwashGuest_66: that really sounds like a help request for the firefox support channel(s)16:14
brainwashhttps://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC16:15
Guest_66Thank you, brainwash!16:18
Guest_66Sorry, not sure how to use ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC)  Tried picking a client, not sure where I ended up.16:26
Guest_66Used Kiwil client.16:26
deadromhi. sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm  does nothing. I'd like to go from auto login to password login16:27
deadromwhat's the proper method?16:27
Guest_66According  to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1229907 , I need to change a file ( /home/rabbit-in-the-titan/.mozilla/firefox/dlcmztwa.default/logins.json.corrupt ) to a former version. Instructions for doing that in windows, but not linux.16:29
diogenes_Guest_66, do you have sync enabled?16:30
Guest_66the file is ( logins.json.corrupt  ) found via about:something (I forget).16:31
Guest_66I Do not sync, let me examine the setting.16:31
brainwash(x)ubuntu does not create file backups16:32
Guest_66Settings say " (exclamation in triangle)  Reconnect to Sync"16:32
Guest_66So am I just S. O. L. then?16:33
diogenes_deadrom, /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf comment the line autologin.16:34
Guest_66The file (that ends with "corrupt" has the proper date of the last time I began to gather saved logins. THere is16:34
Guest_66There is also a new, today's date file  (That ends with -1) that I assume is the brand new file for today.16:35
deadromdiogenes_: if I increase autologin-user-timeout to n , then I'll get the login mask for n seconds and autologin after that?16:36
brainwash>For those affected, Firefox has not deleted the password file but will have renamed it to from ‘logins.json’ to something like ‘logins.json.corrupt’ (or ‘logins.json-1.corrupt’, ‘logins.json-2.corrupt’, etc.). This means the passwords are not lost, but the user will need to rename the file back to ‘logins.json’.16:36
brainwashyou tried that?16:36
Guest_66Yes, I assume so. I changed the name, cut and pasted it back in while firefox was closed. Will try again right now.16:37
diogenes_deadrom, comment out all the lines that start with autologin.16:38
Guest_66Sorry. Just renamed file. Unfortunately, I am a noice user and am connected via firefox to freenode via Kiwi IRC. So I am not about to close firefox unless I reconnect differently. Please advise.16:39
Guest_66Should I also delete today's " logins.json-1 " file also?16:41
brainwashmaybe16:42
brainwashI don't know the answer16:42
brainwashagain, this isn't a firefox support channel16:42
Guest_66That's supposed to be "novice user"16:42
brainwashin any case, create backups of files which you delete16:44
Guest_66I tried to connect to the firefox channel listed and had not luck. OK, I can do that .16:44
brainwashor move them somewhere else16:44
Guest_66Back up created. I probably need to restart firefox, which will throw me off this chat. Should I be connected some way other than via firefox?16:46
diogenes_Guest_66, hexchat.16:47
Guest_66Installing hexchateas we speak16:51
Guest_66Going to restart fifrefox and come back as another guest. Will try to change back to _66.16:54
rabbit-in-the-tiFormerly Guest_6617:07
rabbit-in-the-tiHumbly need help with my problem of my logins saved via firefox file " logins.json" was corrupted during a power failure. There are instructions for recover via windows, but that requires "previous" files which xubuntu does not do.17:10
rabbit-in-the-tiChanged name of .json file and restarted firefox, still no luck.17:15
JimmyKYou can't just recover those passwords via password recovery on those sites?17:15
rabbit-in-the-tiI use a password manager via firefox. That would be at least 100 passwords. Also, I had my email hacked six months ago, so I am locked out of the email address I used for 19 years. Many websites send a recovery email to that address I cannot access and have not been able to since May.17:18
brainwasheven more reason to have a backup in the first place17:21
JimmyKYeah you can't trust An app with all your sh*t17:22
brainwashyou may be able to search the file system for an older copy of the database file, but that is an advanced task17:23
rabbit-in-the-tiI am not sure this was a typical APP as it is part of firefox. Is there a way to automatically have a file backed up on a regular basis?17:23
nine_pttrying to establish a vpn connection using network manager and openconnect. I installed network-manager-openconnect but when going to add connection the window I think is missing tab VPN https://imgur.com/ztUDBq4.pngcan someone confirm that is missing a TAB and if I should install other package? I am using Xubuntu 19.1017:23
rabbit-in-the-tiI am ready to search the file system for an older copy of the login database file, advanced task or no.17:24
JimmyKI know windows has restore points. Does ubuntu?17:27
JimmyKWhere you can roll back your files to an earlier date17:27
rabbit-in-the-tiI have been told no.17:29
brainwashnot out-of-the-box17:30
brainwashI'm not even sure if Windows has file recovery enabled by default17:30
JimmyKI think it did back when I had windows xp17:36
JimmyKI'm not sure which files it backs up or how it works though17:37
rabbit-in-the-tiI need help with another method of support. Trying to connect to IRC Mozilla chat / channel. Looking at wiki, says address is: " irc.mozilla.org ".17:41
rabbit-in-the-tiJoined a channel via HexChat > Server > Join a Channel > entered (#irc.mozilla.org) in dialog box. Only two persons on channel. Could this be 'right'?17:43
brainwashin #firefox you mean?17:45
brainwashirc.mozilla.org is the server, not a channel17:45
brainwashwell, it's an empty channel17:45
brainwashyou have to join #firefox on irc.mozilla.org17:46
rabbit-in-the-tiThanks for that, brainwash!17:48
rabbit-in-the-tiSorry for the utter ignorance, but I need to try to register a nick name. The directions think they are intuitive, but are not always.18:00
rabbit-in-the-tiFor instance, it indicates "msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com " via "/msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com " Where does one enter " /msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com "? I am utterly unfamiliar with the sytax used here. Sorry.18:02
brainwashit's a message you send18:02
rabbit-in-the-tiI only meant to type /msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com twice, not three times. Still wondering where to enter this to get it to work.18:03
brainwashjust like you type normal messages18:03
rabbit-in-the-tiJust like I sent the above? Sent to somewhere that is geared towards registrationi?18:03
brainwashthe irc server will interpret the message accordingly18:04
rabbit-in-the-tiThanks!18:04
brainwashmake sure that there are no space characters before the /18:04
brainwashotherwise it will appear as normal message in the chat18:05
rabbit-in-the-tibrainwash: except for my email client deciding freenode is spam, and my ignorance > not specifying a nickname, I had success.18:08
brainwashfreenode?18:09
brainwashthought you were trying to register a nick on mozilla's irc server18:09
brainwashwell, you can do it here on freenode too18:09
rabbit-in-the-tiSorry, but new problem. Says "18:10
rabbit-in-the-ti* #firefox-unregistered :Cannot send to nick/channel " Firefox registration?18:10
brainwashdid you run18:11
brainwash/nickserv confirm confirmation_code18:11
brainwash//msg nickserv identify [YOUR PASSWORD]18:11
brainwash?18:11
brainwashonly / not //18:12
Celsoquit20:20
gohHi. I'm on Xubuntu 16.02. So xfce4-terminal 0.6.3 (Xfce 4.12).20:31
gohI'm wondering if there's a way to define a keyboard shortcut to increase/decrease/reset font size.20:31
gohYou can do that in 18.04 with Ctrl+ / Ctrl-/ Ctrl=20:31
rabbit-in-the-tiSENDPASS20:39
rabbit-in-the-ti<rabbit-in-the-ti><7suzani1fr.20:47
rabbit-in-the-tirabbit-in-the-ti 7suzani1fr20:48
rabbit-in-the-tiSENDPASS rabbit-in-the-ti20:52
rabbit-in-the-tiHello #xubuntu channel! I am about to scream because it appears my nickname is registered, but not verified. And I cannot seem to get the correct password. So does anyone have an idea what I should do?20:54
merlinerI think you can get nickserv to send you an email with [reset] instructions ..... maybe21:01
merlineror maybe not if  your email isn't verified :(21:01
rabbit-in-the-tiCannot seem to do it. I got the email and entered it to "complete your account registration" and entered the command and strings of numbers. But it still says it is registered, but it does not say it is verified.21:12
tomreynmaybe talk to the folks in chhanel #freenode - they shoul dbe able to help21:15
rabbit-in-the-tiYes. I am trying to find someone there to talk to!21:21
rabbit-in-the-tiThere is a listing for a command for the occasional on call staff, no one there now. I am bummed.21:23
merliner'/msg nickserv help sendpass'21:31
rabbit-in-the-tiThanks, merliner, but My Nick is not verified, so I cannot recover password. I cannot message folks over at #freenode without the password. I have tried to register again, but it only seems to like the Nick I use which is an abbreviation of my HD name. I am betwixt and between. So what can I do?21:36
merlinerSorry I can't say for sure ... other than to just keep trying other nickserv commands and wondering what could be a problem.21:39
rabbit-in-the-tiMerliner. THanks. I raised someone at #freenode. Keep fingers crossed!21:43
rabbit-in-the-tiMerliner: That was good! I think I can reset password now!21:45
rabbit-in-the-tiMerliner. Password Changed! THANKS! Now (or in a little while) I might be able to get on #freenode and then go to help out the registered by not verified problem.21:48
merliner;-}21:51
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