[10:56] <Robert45> Thunar freezes randomly when copying files. What should I do? Tried to look for any logs but didn't find them.
[10:58] <diogenes_> Robert45, when copying video files?
[10:58] <Robert45> No, any files
[10:59] <Robert45> For example, audio files with album-covers...
[11:00] <diogenes_> only thunar freezes or everything gets laggy?
[11:00] <Robert45> only thunar freezes
[11:01] <diogenes_> maybe it's tumbler's fault, try killing it and copy something.
[11:11] <Robert45> uh-huh, I tried to copy 6 directories about 15 times and every time it froze. Now it (f i n a l l y) didn't, but I tried copying some other 3 directories. And it froze. Tried killing tumblerd, it is killed by now, and nothing happens
[11:12] <Robert45> If it is indeed tumbler's fault, should it work properly if I'm going to kill tumblerd before any copying processes?
[11:20] <Robert45> but tumblerd opens every time I copy files...
[11:22] <diogenes_> Robert45, also observe iotop when copying.
[11:26] <Robert45> everything is 0.00 B/s after a freeze
[11:39] <brainwash> Robert45: you can disable thumbnail creation in the settings
[11:41] <brainwash> latest thunar and tumbler can be installed from https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/staging
[11:58] <Robert45> disabling thumbnail creation didn't help (if I did it right: Desktop Settings... > Icons > unticked 'Show thumbnails')
[11:58] <Robert45> Packages from launchpad considered unstable, aren't they? Is it worth installing from this PPA?
[11:59] <Robert45> Currently I have latest thunar and tumbler for eoan, but not from launchpad
[12:04] <brainwash> Robert45: that will the change the behaviour for the desktop
[12:04] <brainwash> thunar preferences > show thumbnails > never
[12:05] <Guest18> Hi guys! I'm on a fresh Xubuntu install and apt update && apt upgrade gives me this error:
[12:05] <Guest18> dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: loading files list file for package 'libfont-afm-perl': cannot read /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfont-afm-perl.list (Input/output error)E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[12:05] <Guest18> Any recommendations?
[12:05] <brainwash> Robert45: installing the newer versions certainly could help to see if the problem was fixed in the meantime
[12:06] <brainwash> Robert45: alternatively, you could boot the xubuntu 20.04 daily ISO and try to reproduce the issue
[12:07] <brainwash> Guest18: my recommendation would be to ask in #ubuntu
[12:07] <Robert45> I cannot, because the hard drive is encrypted
[12:07] <diogenes_> Guest18, that sounds as bad sectors.
[12:07] <Robert45> Thank you, I'll keep trying
[12:07] <Guest18> diogenes_: I don't know what you mean by that, sorry
[12:09] <diogenes_> Guest18, hard drive is getting worn out, bad, but in theory.
[13:11] <Robert90> I installed libpango-1.0-0 libpango-1.0-0:i386 thunar thunar-data tumbler tumbler-common
[13:11] <Robert90> from the ppa… and the pc doesn't boot any more
[13:12] <brainwash> Robert90: libpango?
[13:13] <Robert90> i typed "sudo apt install thunar" and libpango was also to install
[13:16] <brainwash> odd
[13:17] <brainwash> and what does not work now?
[13:18] <Robert90> it tries to run a… login manager but the display seems to turn on and off instantly
[13:18] <brainwash> how is that related to thunar/tumbler though?
[13:19] <brainwash> from where is that libpango package?
[13:19] <Robert90> I don't know. I reinstalled them from the ppa as I was told to try out, rebooted the pc and I can't log in.
[13:20] <Robert90> from focal, I suppose…
[13:20] <brainwash> you could switch to a TTY, login and reinstall the previous package versions
[13:20] <Robert90> Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6? i tried, doesn't work
[13:21] <brainwash> that is outside of the scope of what those installed packages touch
[13:22] <brainwash> logs in /var/log/apt will tell you what exactly was changed package-wise
[13:23] <Robert90> The hard drive is encrypted
[13:23] <brainwash> just remembered that
[13:23] <brainwash> try to boot directly to text mode
[13:24] <Robert90> How?
[13:27] <brainwash> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[13:27] <brainwash> parameter "text" should do the trick
[13:52] <Robert90> I does not understand parameter "text"…
[13:52] <Robert90> It*
[13:58] <diogenes_> try: systemd.unit=multi-user.target
[14:02] <Robert90> does not work
[14:03] <diogenes_> Robert90, then boot a live usb and chroot.
[14:03] <Robert90> I don't have a PC from which I could make a usb-iso
[14:04] <Robert90> it is the only pc I have, I'm texting these messages from my phone now
[14:04] <diogenes_> try recovery mode in grub
[14:05] <diogenes_> and don't run commands that you randomly find on internet.
[14:05] <Robert90> I've already tried, but it does not let me either turn on the network or read/write mode
[14:06] <Robert90> I don't run commands that I randomly find on the internet, I just told what you did — installed unstable packages from the ppa
[14:07] <diogenes_> Robert90, i didn't tell you anything did i?
[14:07] <Robert90> I don't remember all your names, I'm deeply sorry
[14:07] <Robert90> No offence intended
[14:08] <diogenes_> Robert90, ok one of the big hammer approach, at grub linux line, remove everything (except if there is anything regarding your encryption) and add this line instead: init=/bin/bash
[14:09] <diogenes_> and ctrl+x to boot
[14:09] <brainwash> you must have done something on top of just installing newer versions of thunar and tumbler
[14:10] <diogenes_> after it boots in text mode, run: mount / (it's gonna tell you something like /dev/sda1 is already mounted)
[14:10] <brainwash> those versions are marked as stable by upstream and are packaged by the Xubuntu team
[14:10] <diogenes_> then you do: mount -o remount --rw /dev/sd1
[14:11] <brainwash> but it's encrypted
[14:11] <diogenes_> and now you gonna be having a root shell where you can try to fix your issue, but now i need to go so hopefully someone could assist you further on.
[14:11] <diogenes_> brainwash, isn't there a shell command to decrypt?
[14:12] <diogenes_> i got no clue i never encrypted anything in my life.
[14:12] <brainwash> I never played around with it
[14:12]  * diogenes_ is offline
[14:13] <brainwash> again, I still see no connection between updating thunar/tumbler and not being able to start the display manager anymore, or being able to switch to a TTY
[14:14] <Robert90> I don't either
[14:14] <brainwash> but it surely makes things difficult to debug
[14:14] <brainwash> the encryption part
[14:14] <Robert90> I removed at grub linux line, but it does not boot…  I suppose I didn't have to take that instruction literally…?
[14:15] <Robert90> yeah, i know… but someone likes to steal my files from the pc lol :( that's why it's encrypted, uh… what a pity
[14:16] <brainwash> removing a line completely does not sound like something one should do
[14:16] <Robert90> aaaah, only one line?
[14:17] <brainwash> I guess it's not clear what you did
[14:17] <brainwash> "I removed at grub linux line"
[14:17] <brainwash> to me it sounds like you deleted the whole line
[14:18] <Robert90> I'm sorry, I'm not a native speaker, my bad. I meant I removed every line at grub linux
[14:18] <Robert90> but it seems I shouldn't…
[14:18] <brainwash> those changes are temporary only, aren't they?
[14:19] <Robert90> yes, but I didn't understand which lines should I remove
[14:19] <Robert90> otherwise it doesn't boot
[14:19] <brainwash> what happened after you added "text" after "quit splash" and hit ctrl+x ?
[14:20] <brainwash> maybe remove "quiet" and "splash" to have a verbose boot log output
[14:26] <Robert90> same thing happened
[14:27] <brainwash> did you see text scrolling down during boot?
[14:27] <Robert90> I typed "text" after "quiet splash", the same happened… removed that — same…
[14:27] <Robert90> Yes, I did
[14:28] <brainwash> and "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" instead of "text" you got the same result?
[14:35] <Robert90> No, it suddenly worked, tty launched, but I cannot reinstall those packages, should I type "remove" and then "install"?
[14:36] <brainwash> sure
[14:36] <Robert90> thank you so mucg
[14:36] <Robert90> much*
[14:36] <brainwash> or like said before, sudo apt install thunar=<version> tumbler=<version> and so on
[14:37] <brainwash> but for that you'll have to look up the exact version string
[14:37] <brainwash> so, just removing and reinstalling should be faster
[14:38] <brainwash> you'll have to disable the PPA of course
[14:38] <Robert90> but it removed 200 packages… definitely not faster :D
[14:38] <Robert90> i disabled it in the recovery mode earlier
[14:38] <brainwash> ohh
[14:38] <brainwash> 200 is a lot
[14:39] <brainwash> installing the meta-package "xubuntu-desktop" may fix that
[14:39] <brainwash> it should pull back in all needed packages
[14:39] <Robert90> I just thought of that idea :)
[14:39] <Robert90> through the tasksel
[14:40] <brainwash> logs are in /var/log/apt
[14:40] <brainwash> in case something is missing
[14:40] <Robert90> OK, I appreciate your help :)
[14:40] <brainwash> afterwards I mean
[14:40] <brainwash> no problem
[16:10] <Guest_66> Hello I humbly need help restoring a corrupted file in firefox. Details to follow.
[16:12] <Guest_66> There is a password protected file that keeps all my login info. It got corrupted in a power failure. I found a 'fix' for windows related to previous versions, but I do not know how to fix in xubuntu.
[16:14] <brainwash> Guest_66: that really sounds like a help request for the firefox support channel(s)
[16:15] <brainwash> https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC
[16:18] <Guest_66> Thank you, brainwash!
[16:26] <Guest_66> Sorry, not sure how to use ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC)  Tried picking a client, not sure where I ended up.
[16:26] <Guest_66> Used Kiwil client.
[16:27] <deadrom> hi. sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm  does nothing. I'd like to go from auto login to password login
[16:27] <deadrom> what's the proper method?
[16:29] <Guest_66> According  to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1229907 , I need to change a file ( /home/rabbit-in-the-titan/.mozilla/firefox/dlcmztwa.default/logins.json.corrupt ) to a former version. Instructions for doing that in windows, but not linux.
[16:30] <diogenes_> Guest_66, do you have sync enabled?
[16:31] <Guest_66> the file is ( logins.json.corrupt  ) found via about:something (I forget).
[16:31] <Guest_66> I Do not sync, let me examine the setting.
[16:32] <brainwash> (x)ubuntu does not create file backups
[16:32] <Guest_66> Settings say " (exclamation in triangle)  Reconnect to Sync"
[16:33] <Guest_66> So am I just S. O. L. then?
[16:34] <diogenes_> deadrom, /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf comment the line autologin.
[16:34] <Guest_66> The file (that ends with "corrupt" has the proper date of the last time I began to gather saved logins. THere is
[16:35] <Guest_66> There is also a new, today's date file  (That ends with -1) that I assume is the brand new file for today.
[16:36] <deadrom> diogenes_: if I increase autologin-user-timeout to n , then I'll get the login mask for n seconds and autologin after that?
[16:36] <brainwash> >For those affected, Firefox has not deleted the password file but will have renamed it to from ‘logins.json’ to something like ‘logins.json.corrupt’ (or ‘logins.json-1.corrupt’, ‘logins.json-2.corrupt’, etc.). This means the passwords are not lost, but the user will need to rename the file back to ‘logins.json’.
[16:36] <brainwash> you tried that?
[16:37] <Guest_66> Yes, I assume so. I changed the name, cut and pasted it back in while firefox was closed. Will try again right now.
[16:38] <diogenes_> deadrom, comment out all the lines that start with autologin.
[16:39] <Guest_66> Sorry. Just renamed file. Unfortunately, I am a noice user and am connected via firefox to freenode via Kiwi IRC. So I am not about to close firefox unless I reconnect differently. Please advise.
[16:41] <Guest_66> Should I also delete today's " logins.json-1 " file also?
[16:42] <brainwash> maybe
[16:42] <brainwash> I don't know the answer
[16:42] <brainwash> again, this isn't a firefox support channel
[16:42] <Guest_66> That's supposed to be "novice user"
[16:44] <brainwash> in any case, create backups of files which you delete
[16:44] <Guest_66> I tried to connect to the firefox channel listed and had not luck. OK, I can do that .
[16:44] <brainwash> or move them somewhere else
[16:46] <Guest_66> Back up created. I probably need to restart firefox, which will throw me off this chat. Should I be connected some way other than via firefox?
[16:47] <diogenes_> Guest_66, hexchat.
[16:51] <Guest_66> Installing hexchateas we speak
[16:54] <Guest_66> Going to restart fifrefox and come back as another guest. Will try to change back to _66.
[17:07] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Formerly Guest_66
[17:10] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Humbly need help with my problem of my logins saved via firefox file " logins.json" was corrupted during a power failure. There are instructions for recover via windows, but that requires "previous" files which xubuntu does not do.
[17:15] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Changed name of .json file and restarted firefox, still no luck.
[17:15] <JimmyK> You can't just recover those passwords via password recovery on those sites?
[17:18] <rabbit-in-the-ti> I use a password manager via firefox. That would be at least 100 passwords. Also, I had my email hacked six months ago, so I am locked out of the email address I used for 19 years. Many websites send a recovery email to that address I cannot access and have not been able to since May.
[17:21] <brainwash> even more reason to have a backup in the first place
[17:22] <JimmyK> Yeah you can't trust An app with all your sh*t
[17:23] <brainwash> you may be able to search the file system for an older copy of the database file, but that is an advanced task
[17:23] <rabbit-in-the-ti> I am not sure this was a typical APP as it is part of firefox. Is there a way to automatically have a file backed up on a regular basis?
[17:23] <nine_pt> trying to establish a vpn connection using network manager and openconnect. I installed network-manager-openconnect but when going to add connection the window I think is missing tab VPN https://imgur.com/ztUDBq4.pngcan someone confirm that is missing a TAB and if I should install other package? I am using Xubuntu 19.10
[17:24] <rabbit-in-the-ti> I am ready to search the file system for an older copy of the login database file, advanced task or no.
[17:27] <JimmyK> I know windows has restore points. Does ubuntu?
[17:27] <JimmyK> Where you can roll back your files to an earlier date
[17:29] <rabbit-in-the-ti> I have been told no.
[17:30] <brainwash> not out-of-the-box
[17:30] <brainwash> I'm not even sure if Windows has file recovery enabled by default
[17:36] <JimmyK> I think it did back when I had windows xp
[17:37] <JimmyK> I'm not sure which files it backs up or how it works though
[17:41] <rabbit-in-the-ti> I need help with another method of support. Trying to connect to IRC Mozilla chat / channel. Looking at wiki, says address is: " irc.mozilla.org ".
[17:43] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Joined a channel via HexChat > Server > Join a Channel > entered (#irc.mozilla.org) in dialog box. Only two persons on channel. Could this be 'right'?
[17:45] <brainwash> in #firefox you mean?
[17:45] <brainwash> irc.mozilla.org is the server, not a channel
[17:45] <brainwash> well, it's an empty channel
[17:46] <brainwash> you have to join #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[17:48] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Thanks for that, brainwash!
[18:00] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Sorry for the utter ignorance, but I need to try to register a nick name. The directions think they are intuitive, but are not always.
[18:02] <rabbit-in-the-ti> For instance, it indicates "msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com " via "/msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com " Where does one enter " /msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com "? I am utterly unfamiliar with the sytax used here. Sorry.
[18:02] <brainwash> it's a message you send
[18:03] <rabbit-in-the-ti> I only meant to type /msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com twice, not three times. Still wondering where to enter this to get it to work.
[18:03] <brainwash> just like you type normal messages
[18:03] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Just like I sent the above? Sent to somewhere that is geared towards registrationi?
[18:04] <brainwash> the irc server will interpret the message accordingly
[18:04] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Thanks!
[18:04] <brainwash> make sure that there are no space characters before the /
[18:05] <brainwash> otherwise it will appear as normal message in the chat
[18:08] <rabbit-in-the-ti> brainwash: except for my email client deciding freenode is spam, and my ignorance > not specifying a nickname, I had success.
[18:09] <brainwash> freenode?
[18:09] <brainwash> thought you were trying to register a nick on mozilla's irc server
[18:09] <brainwash> well, you can do it here on freenode too
[18:10] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Sorry, but new problem. Says "
[18:10] <rabbit-in-the-ti> * #firefox-unregistered :Cannot send to nick/channel " Firefox registration?
[18:11] <brainwash> did you run
[18:11] <brainwash> /nickserv confirm confirmation_code
[18:11] <brainwash> //msg nickserv identify [YOUR PASSWORD]
[18:11] <brainwash> ?
[18:12] <brainwash> only / not //
[20:20] <Celso> quit
[20:31] <goh> Hi. I'm on Xubuntu 16.02. So xfce4-terminal 0.6.3 (Xfce 4.12).
[20:31] <goh> I'm wondering if there's a way to define a keyboard shortcut to increase/decrease/reset font size.
[20:31] <goh> You can do that in 18.04 with Ctrl+ / Ctrl-/ Ctrl=
[20:39] <rabbit-in-the-ti> SENDPASS
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[20:48] <rabbit-in-the-ti> rabbit-in-the-ti 7suzani1fr
[20:52] <rabbit-in-the-ti> SENDPASS rabbit-in-the-ti
[20:54] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Hello #xubuntu channel! I am about to scream because it appears my nickname is registered, but not verified. And I cannot seem to get the correct password. So does anyone have an idea what I should do?
[21:01] <merliner> I think you can get nickserv to send you an email with [reset] instructions ..... maybe
[21:01] <merliner> or maybe not if  your email isn't verified :(
[21:12] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Cannot seem to do it. I got the email and entered it to "complete your account registration" and entered the command and strings of numbers. But it still says it is registered, but it does not say it is verified.
[21:15] <tomreyn> maybe talk to the folks in chhanel #freenode - they shoul dbe able to help
[21:21] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Yes. I am trying to find someone there to talk to!
[21:23] <rabbit-in-the-ti> There is a listing for a command for the occasional on call staff, no one there now. I am bummed.
[21:31] <merliner> '/msg nickserv help sendpass'
[21:36] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Thanks, merliner, but My Nick is not verified, so I cannot recover password. I cannot message folks over at #freenode without the password. I have tried to register again, but it only seems to like the Nick I use which is an abbreviation of my HD name. I am betwixt and between. So what can I do?
[21:39] <merliner> Sorry I can't say for sure ... other than to just keep trying other nickserv commands and wondering what could be a problem.
[21:43] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Merliner. THanks. I raised someone at #freenode. Keep fingers crossed!
[21:45] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Merliner: That was good! I think I can reset password now!
[21:48] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Merliner. Password Changed! THANKS! Now (or in a little while) I might be able to get on #freenode and then go to help out the registered by not verified problem.
[21:51] <merliner> ;-}