[02:25] <Bob95> Hi
[02:26] <Bob95> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows?_ga=2.224820959.477032064.1578363642-1851941745.1578363642#9 so if I use this link and I follow the instructions, does that mean the next time I boot my system with the usb drive it will be in Linux instead of windows?
[02:27] <guiverc> Bob95, I usually use the "Check disc for defects" options first time I run the thumb-drive (to verify write was perfect; otherwise I re-do write) - but it'll be a 'live' system fit for installating or using
[02:28] <kc2bez> Bob95 didn't wait for your answer guiverc :(
[02:30] <guiverc> i realize; it was ^A+backspace or finish "or using<ENTER>" & I opted latter
[02:31] <kc2bez> There wasn't much time to make a change:)
 hello, is there any recomendation for screenshoot software for my lubuntu ?
[10:14] <diogenes_> devikri, if you prefer cli, then scrot, if guy, then shutter.
[10:14] <diogenes_> gui*
[10:15] <guiverc> @defikri, what release of Lubuntu?  lximage-qt is the standard method for LXQt  (an option `-s` has it ask what you want to save in gui)
[10:17] <kc2bez> In 19.10 we also have screengrab.
 @guiverc [<guiverc> @defikri, what release of Lubuntu?  lximage-qt is the standard method …], im using lxde
 @diogenes_ [<diogenes_> devikri, if you prefer cli, then scrot, if guy, then shutter.], thx i will try it
 @wxl [<wxl> more to the point i should say tor is the only way to truly use the intern …], well said
 (Photo, 1280x640) https://i.imgur.com/Rs6zUM4.jpg Pcmanfm-qt copy operations are still bugged or do I miss some comoonent/deoendency?
[22:11] <wxl> @mttcastelli from the picture it is not clear there is a bug
 I know, you can not see it's hanging coping and deleting an amount of less than 300 mb, and you can't figure out it's an ssd: coping is too slow and don't let you see progress
[22:14] <wxl> is it progressing, though?
 The delete, yes but slowly
[22:16] <wxl> is that deleting a folder?
[22:16] <wxl> with 4928 files in it?
 Yes
[22:18] <wxl> it looks like that particular case may be problematic, but it doesn't look like the libraries upon which pcmanfm-qt depends would allow for anything different https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/539
 Ok
[23:11] <Rush48> help please
[23:12] <Rush48> Instlaling lubuntu 32bit 18.10 on samsung nc10 netbook..  screen goes black after 'installing sylpheed'  massage.  any ideas?
[23:13] <Rush48> sirs?
[23:16] <Rush48> I'll try a 64 bit iso then.. and if that doesnt work i guess nothing will
[23:21] <wxl> Rush48: 18.10 is not supported
[23:21] <wxl> perhaps you mean 18.04?
[23:22] <Rush48> hmm
[23:22] <Rush48> well the 32bit version...
[23:22] <Rush48> but it goes black screen before it finished instalation
[23:22] <wxl> well if you're installing 18.10, it's not supported, so which version do you mean?
[23:22] <wxl> either way, 64 bit won't work on that machine, so don't bother with that
[23:22] <Rush48> is there a 32bit 18.10 ?
[23:23] <Rush48> if so, then i got the wrong one
[23:23] <wxl> honestly i don't remember XD
[23:23] <Rush48> hmm
[23:23] <wxl> where did you get it?
 yes there was 32 bit 18.10
[23:23] <Rush48> yes. and it doesnt work
[23:24] <wxl> where did you get it?
[23:24] <Rush48> so not even linux works on old 32 bti hardware anymore.. jeez
[23:24] <Rush48> https://lubuntu.net/lubuntu-18-10-cosmic-cuttlefish-released/
[23:24] <Rush48> got it from there
[23:25] <wxl> lubuntu.net is not our website
[23:25] <Rush48> well it started to download anyway.. and installed almost totally
[23:25] <Rush48> so i doubt it would matter where i got it
[23:25] <wxl> well, they might very well be providing the wrong image, since they aren't affiliated with us
[23:25] <wxl> also did you check the hashes of the iso?
[23:26] <Rush48> ok.  can i have the link to the 'good'  recomended 32 bit iso ?
[23:26] <Rush48> no i didnt check hashes
[23:26] <wxl> then you might have had a download error even if it was the right image
[23:26] <Rush48> the iso works on my other machine
[23:26] <wxl> and if you didn't check the installation media, you might have had a copy error
[23:26] <wxl> that doesn't mean anything
[23:26] <Rush48> ususally i find its never a hash error...
[23:26] <wxl> 1 bit of difference could result in all sorts of problems
[23:26] <wxl> usually i find it is
[23:26] <Rush48> can u give me a link to a good iso please
[23:27] <wxl> https://lubuntu.me/downloads/
[23:27] <Rush48> i tried that oen also before
[23:27] <Rush48> one*
[23:27] <wxl> that's the only correct one
[23:28] <Rush48> so i guess you dont suppoer samsung nc10 netbooks
[23:28] <Rush48> support*
[23:28] <wxl> so i would get that, check the hashes on it and keep downloading until you get the right image
[23:28] <Rush48> the image worked on other laptop
[23:28] <wxl> that's not a correct assumption
[23:28] <Rush48> so its not the issue
[23:28] <wxl> i would bet money on it
[23:29] <Rush48> ill try linux lite then
[23:29] <Rush48> has checks i find are usually a total waste of time
[23:29] <wxl> ok
[23:29] <wxl> have fun
[23:29] <Rush48> more fun than pointless hash checks
[23:31] <Rush48> by the way.. the devs are doing it all wrong
[23:31] <Rush48> one of the main reasons for using lubuntu etc is for old slow machines
[23:31] <Rush48> stopping 32bit support is the totally wrong direction
[23:31] <wxl> the reason it exists is to be lightweight
[23:32] <wxl> that's what the "l" stands for
[23:32] <wxl> it doesn't stand for "old slow machines"
[23:32] <Rush48> but thats what it is mostly used  on
[23:32] <wxl> and if your concern is about 32 bit support, you can bring that up with ubuntu which as a whole does not support it
[23:32] <Rush48> id never use lubuntu on a powerful rig... lol
[23:32] <wxl> and it does work on many old slow machines, just not 32 bit ones
[23:32] <Rush48> its only strength lies in powering old hardware
[23:33] <wxl> we also don't support amigas
[23:33] <Rush48> most 64 bits dont really need lubuntu
[23:33] <Rush48> 32 bits are perfect for it
[23:33] <wxl> and we have a solution, but you don't appear to like the process to install it
[23:33] <wxl> since you know better, i'll leave you to it
[23:33] <Rush48> since u are such a smug c*nt.. ill be glad to see you go
[23:34] <wxl> !language | Rush48
[23:35] <Rush48> balls to picasso
[23:35] <wxl> can you please stop? last warning.
[23:37] <Rush48> since you gave me advice i'll give you some. you do need to try to stop being so smug..
[23:38] <wxl> i'm actually trying to help you, but you're refusing it. i woudln't call that smug, but i'm very sorry i've made you feel that way.
[23:39] <Rush48> you know full well 32bit is a good lubuntu market... but your smugness couldnt let you admit it
[23:39] <Rush48> talking about amigas...  nice
[23:39] <wxl> if you want a solution to your needs, i'm sure we can get to it with lubuntu. but not without bothering to actually go through all the troubleshooting steps.
[23:40] <Rush48> hashchecking is complicated and takes ages i think
[23:40] <Rush48> and usually never fixes anything
[23:40] <wxl> you think
[23:40] <Rush48> was wen i tried before
[23:40] <Rush48> and then i have to get back to fixing issues properly after wasting time
[23:40] <wxl> and my experience has been entirely the opposite
[23:41] <wxl> but it sounds like you don't want to listen otherwise, so c'est la vie
[23:42] <wxl> that's not smug. that's admitting defeat!
[23:42] <Rush48> ill try linux lite.. adn then if that doesnt work i suppose i'll have to do the hashcheck.. and i bet you that wont fix anything
[23:42] <wxl> and like i said (seriously) i would bet money
[23:42] <Rush48> so maybeafter 5 hours then we will actually get down to fixing something propaerly
[23:43] <wxl> i'm not going to fight you on this. if you want help, you've got it. if you want to do it all yourself and ignore any advice, then, by all means, go ahead
[23:43] <Rush48> whats the fastest way ot hashcheck
[23:43] <wxl> on linux?
[23:43] <Rush48> i dont know
[23:43] <Rush48> on wat i want ot do
[23:44] <Rush48> to*
[23:44] <wxl> i'm asking what os you're using to do it
[23:44] <Rush48> windows at the moment
[23:44] <wxl> oh gawd
[23:44] <Rush48> since i use rufus to burn isos
[23:44] <Rush48> linux doesnt work for me burning isos
[23:44] <wxl> 10?
[23:44] <Rush48> yea
[23:44] <wxl> 1s
[23:44] <Rush48> ok
[23:45] <wxl> in powershell: get-filehash \path\to\iso
[23:46] <Rush48> powershell ?
[23:46] <wxl> yep
[23:46] <Rush48> i dont know how
[23:46] <wxl> otherwise you're downloading stuff
[23:46] <wxl> ???
[23:46] <wxl> it's an application in windows
[23:47] <wxl> just click the menu and type powershell
[23:47] <Rush48> path to iso?
[23:47] <Rush48> i have to type the exact iso name?
[23:47] <wxl> i don't know where you have it downloaded, so you'll have to specify the path
[23:47] <Rush48> its on my desktop
[23:47] <Rush48> i domt kknow how to direct a path to there
[23:48] <wxl> powershell should take you to C:\Users\youruser
[23:48] <wxl> so just use `cd Desktop`
[23:48] <Rush48> use how?
[23:48] <Rush48> no ,  cant
[23:48] <Rush48> no gui can do this ?
[23:48] <wxl> there is but you have to download them
[23:49] <wxl> let's see here
[23:49] <Rush48> fien with me
[23:49] <wxl> !md5sum
[23:49] <Rush48> better than terminals and powershells
[23:49] <wxl> see the last one
[23:49] <wxl> i really don't use windows very much so can't be super helpful with that, sadly
[23:49] <wxl> i've heard 7zip can do it
[23:49]  * wxl shrugs
[23:50] <Rush48> i have 7 zip
[23:50] <Rush48> i cant do this
[23:50] <wxl> emphasis on "i've heard;" not sure how
[23:50] <Rush48> see.. and since its never the problem anyway.. now you know why i hate doing it
[23:50] <Rush48> even that link yo ugave me requires powershall or commands etc
[23:51] <wxl> you have to scroll down to see other options
[23:51] <Rush48> can yo ujust tell me which one please
[23:51] <wxl> again, i don't know. i don't use windows.
[23:51] <Rush48> you know more about it than i do
[23:52] <wxl> not when i don't use the OS X'''''D
[23:52] <Rush48> oh well..  as usuall.. nevermind
[23:52] <wxl> i could tell you how to do it in linux super easy
[23:52] <wxl> let's try this
[23:52] <Rush48> and i know you wont give me any more help unless i dod t he sacred hash check
[23:52] <wxl> boot it and at the boot screen run the "check disc for defects"
[23:52] <Rush48> boot what
[23:52] <Rush48> the iso
[23:52] <wxl> the lubuntu ISO
[23:52] <wxl> yep
[23:53] <wxl> if that fails, then you have one of two problems
[23:53] <wxl> if it succeeds, we know neither is the problem (and you win) :)
[23:53] <wxl> (if it fails in order to figure out the problem, we have to go back to hashing, unless you want to just keep downloading and burning until you get it right)
[23:53] <Rush48> my god.. trying linux lite.. and cant even type the wifi password in.. 'j'  = '1'  etc..
[23:54] <Rush48> this is ghopeless
[23:54] <wxl> i'd say your biggest impediment is your impatience
[23:54] <wxl> your nick is aptly chosen XD
[23:54] <Rush48> just maybe the problem is not hash?
[23:54] <wxl> yes, maybe
[23:54] <Rush48> maybe its another problem ou wont even entertain ?
[23:54] <wxl> anything's possible
[23:55] <Rush48> funny how you laugh at me when i expose how flaky linux is
[23:55] <wxl> but 9/10 i have found "weird problems" like the one you described to be an issue in downloading or copying
[23:55] <Rush48> like that my issue somehow
[23:55] <wxl> do you know windows distributes isos?
[23:55] <wxl> if you download a windows iso you run into the same possible problems.
[23:55] <wxl> it's not about linux at all
[23:55] <Rush48> i never have
[23:55] <Rush48> ever
[23:55] <wxl> yes but what's your sample size?
[23:56] <wxl> hundreds and thousands of downloads or a small handful?
[23:56] <Rush48> only linux.. thats why i think hashchecks are usualy a waste of time
[23:56] <Rush48> sampel of wat
[23:56] <wxl> just try the "check disc for defects"
[23:56] <Rush48> how the hell are you suppose to y pe in a wifi password if the keyboard is all messed up?
[23:56] <Rush48> amazing
[23:56] <wxl> is this linux lite?
[23:57] <wxl> (which i might add i've never even heard of)
[23:57] <Rush48> yea
[23:57] <Rush48> well, dont bother..  its more dung
[23:57] <Rush48> \its for tinkerers and fanboys only.. they make it all sound great.. but for the casual user its rubbish.. like most linux
[23:57] <wxl> let me know when you got that check done
[23:58] <Rush48> check it when booting on the netbook ?
[23:58] <wxl> yep
[23:59] <Rush48> ive ost the damn link
[23:59] <Rush48> should i downlaod 18.10 or 4?
[23:59] <wxl> language, dear
[23:59] <Rush48> i hate t his .. people consider this fun ?