[02:17] <wxl> did you generate the modeline?
[02:17] <wxl> actually
[02:17] <wxl> heck wrong channel
[02:42] <kc2bez> That ^ never happens :P
[11:11] <guiverc> how do I get into pad.lubuntu.me again?  (I'd forget my head if it weren't attached)
 Do you mean notes.lubuntu.me ?
[11:13] <guiverc> probably :)
[11:13] <guiverc> thanks Dan
 np
 Any1 subscribed to the snapd bug report I opened re https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139#2887 ? They just commited a fix to resolve the issue (thinking_face)
[14:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Ensure applications in Snap packages show up in the lxqt-panel menu: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139#2887
 @gsilvapt [Any1 subscribed to the snapd bug report I opened re https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139 …], Naw, committed 3 days ago. In this case, that means committed to upstream, but upstream hasn't released a new version. Even then what is in proposed is lagging behind: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd vs https://github.com/snapc
[16:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Ensure applications in Snap packages show up in the lxqt-panel menu: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139
 Unfortunately the roadmap doesn't clarify when we might see a release https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/the-snapd-roadmap/1973
 @wxl23 [Unfortunately the roadmap doesn't clarify when we might see a release https://fo …], They SRU all releases anyway
 However, they're at least every couple of weeks
 That's besides the point
 Perhaps popey could provide some insight
[20:35] <wxl> ooooo https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[20:36] <wxl> oops
[20:36] <wxl> this https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2020-January/018561.html
[21:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> !standup
[21:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> o/
[21:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> Going last
[21:02] <kc2bez> o/
[21:06] <wxl> o/
[21:11] <lynorian> o/ cough
[21:11] <kc2bez> I don't have too much so I will go.
[21:12] <kc2bez> * Tried to upload the changes for lubuntu-update-notifier
[21:12] <kc2bez> Discovered it isn't in the Lubuntu package set.
[21:12] <kc2bez> * Sent an email to get it added ^
[21:12] <kc2bez> Will upload when we can.
[21:12] <kc2bez> That is all I have for the week.
 I'm here as well
 @profetik777 and I have been discussing the marketing effort if we care to discuss that.
 please do.
 He put together a document to outline what we're planning. I think he was going to post it somewhere so I won't dump all the content here. In In summary...
 We want to create small team that builds core foundation of Marketing and Communications strategy and necessary tools/resources to execute.
 @profetik777 states: From my experience, I have found that starting with small projects and milestones are more productive in the goal towards more effective marketing and communications. A small target that I will be working towards is creating an email list and respective email opt-in forms strategically place on the home page.
 For my part, I'm interested in helping when I can on technical guidance/advice on website as well honing in on a shared language that the Lubuntu team can leverage when communicating its unique value proposition in the greater Linux ecosystem. Once we poll/survey the community – we can then have the “raw ingredients” to create a sho
 TLDR: I want to get a solid value proposition in place for what Lubuntu is and why someone might want to use it.
 When I was testing it, one of the things I did was go to the website and look for this type of info and I had a hard time defining those points.
 Maybe it's a "forest through the trees" situation where I just don't see it but I think it should be apparent to a visitor.
 I'll also say I am interested in publicizing Lubuntu with content like videos, posts and social media.
 basically. It is the most lightweight flavour of ubuntu. provides benifits of ubuntu universe(softwares/support.etc) but in a small system footprint. is basically usable almost everywhere. even on small and old systems. Since such systems have botlenecked hardwares, one can try to make up by maximising on software front. thus 
 you can lookup comparison videos on youtube.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [basically. It is the most lightweight flavour of ubuntu. provides benifits of ub …], Good start! There's a lot to tease out from that.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [you can lookup comparison videos on youtube.], I could but I'd rather get it from the horse's mouth so to speak
 XD "horse's mouth" noice!
 @ericadams [For my part, I'm interested in helping when I can on technical guidance/advice o …], can you explain a bit more on the pool/survey part?
[21:26] <wxl> @ericadams this should be a good start https://lubuntu.me/taking-a-new-direction/
 @ericadams [When I was testing it, one of the things I did was go to the website and look fo …], actually the website needs to be updated. but we are short on people and time.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [can you explain a bit more on the pool/survey part?], That was @profetik777's idea. He was basically thinking that the existing users would be able to provide strong reasons why they value Lubuntu.
[21:27] <wxl> also you should get together with simon and/or i to get all you all the social media stuff
 beaware he forgets about those from time to time. ;)
[21:27] <wxl> well there was that one that no one had sooooooo
 @The_LoudSpeaker [actually the website needs to be updated. but we are short on people and time.], I can help with that. I notice you use Elementor on Wordpress which is what I use as well.
[21:28] <wxl> @ericadams also see me about wordpress
 @ericadams [I can help with that. I notice you use Elementor on Wordpress which is what I us …], nice to know. @tsimonq2 or @wxl: can get you started
 I know it's a sticking point but I would LOVE to figure out the whole .org and .e situation. It's confusing to say the least.
 @ericadams [That was @profetik777's idea. He was basically thinking that the existing users …], nice idea.
 @ericadams [I know it's a sticking point but I would LOVE to figure out the whole .org and . …], basically. we had a fight and decided to go our own ways
 isn't that right wxl ?
 XD
[21:31] <wxl> more or less :/
[21:31] <wxl> and you mean .net
[21:31] <lynorian> pager wars?
 org takes you there only
 I'm doing a website eval to see what improvements we can make. Some things are simple and won't really require much discussion or input. Some other things are bigger picture and I'd want to have feedback on how to proceed.
[21:32] <wxl> i think we'd be happy to give you artistic license :)
 prepare a list and a task on phab. that should be a start. mention everything there. add subtasks, etc
 @wxl [<wxl> and you mean .net], Sorry, yes .net
 @The_LoudSpeaker [prepare a list and a task on phab. that should be a start. mention everything th …], I may need some help with that. Let me know if there is documentation I can look at or someone I can bother. ;)
 I have an account and have been poking around. Just need to figure a few things our.
 @ericadams [I may need some help with that. Let me know if there is documentation I can look …], I can help. ping me after the meeting.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [I can help. ping me after the meeting.], ok
 I think that's all I have for now
 also, about the email list part you mentioned, we already have a user mailing list. you thinking about something digfferent?
 *different
[21:35]  * guiverc sneeks in, face down b/c of tardiness
 @The_LoudSpeaker [also, about the email list part you mentioned, we already have a user mailing li …], I'll defer to @profetik777 on that.
 hii guiverc!
 @ericadams [I'll defer to @profetik777 on that.], k.
 Thanks! @ericadams
 who goes next?
 wxl was next
[21:37] <wxl> gotta pass; phone
[21:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T119: Dialogue for Lock screen] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T119#2901
 I think lynorian is next
 After lynorian is @The_LoudSpeaker
 yup! one sec.
 Updated lxqt-globalkeys to latest version in archives. Figuring a way to update it on phab. … https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-globalkeys/0.14.3-1ubuntu1 … Tested new lock screen dialogue box after installation of required fonts. @guicerc helped. … Task closed. … https://phab.lubuntu.me/T119 … Tested lubuntu-grub-them
[21:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Resolved] Dialogue for Lock screen: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T119
[21:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Theme GRUB: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30
[21:43] <lynorian> I don't have a paste but I have been finding more typos in the manual and I alredy have a new chapter for upgrade notifier stuff 
 That looks like the end of it. or wxl: you have something?
[21:49] <wxl> still phone
 Hi on the phone, I'm dad
[21:57] <guiverc> @tsimonq2, Hi Dad (I guess)
 XD
 If you're dad I must be grandpa. 😂
 Bahahaha
[22:02] <wxl> Hi I only show up to troll, I'm Simon
[22:03] <wxl> ANYWAYS
[22:03] <wxl> I don't have a paste either
[22:04] <wxl> helped with that whole snap package thing
[22:04] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139
[22:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Ensure applications in Snap packages show up in the lxqt-panel menu: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139
[22:04] <wxl> although really the heavy lifting was done by gsilvapt
[22:05] <wxl> tracking down some bugs, including one with icon sizes not updating on the panel. needs more testing
[22:05] <wxl> still need to get back to testing the issues with discover (or rather i think appstream, or maybe even lmdb) with turkish
[22:06] <wxl> got @teward001 access to wordpress at long last
[22:07] <wxl> helped @The_LoudSpeaker with his new upload
[22:07] <wxl> i think that's about it
 tell me how to pick commits from upstream and apply to phab. I will pick the latest release of globalkeys
 well there is a guide in the wiki to do that.
[22:10] <wxl> but the thing is you need to update the PACKAGING in phab (that's all that's in there) to be consistent with what's in the archive and that's not in upstream
 I think you might want to look at the mergemeld tool that @RikMills sent you though
[22:12] <wxl> we really need to come up with a reasonable solution to deal with MoM
[22:12] <wxl> part of me thinks we should just ignore it and go pick it ourselves.
 (merge from Debian's git and squash it all into one commit)
 which arc does if you go through phab first.
 @tsimonq2 [(merge from Debian's git and squash it all into one commit)], yep, and I usually use a merge tool like meld to check that the result matches what was in the debian folder of what I uploaded
 I will check the wiki and mergemel tool.
[23:19] <gsilvapt> wxl, I did what now? :) 
[23:20] <kc2bez> I posted on the snapcraft forum and filed a bug on launchpad. 
[23:20] <kc2bez> you
[23:21] <gsilvapt> Indeed, although it all seems like the easy part? (thinking_face) 
[23:21] <wxl> sometimes not
[23:21] <wxl> the research is always the hardest part
[23:21] <kc2bez> it was very productive in this case. 
[23:22] <wxl> gsilvapt: you might want to follow up and see when a release might hit the archive, though
[23:23] <gsilvapt> You guys mentioned popey before. I haven't read the conversation above so, sorry if you already answered: Does he know by chance? 
[23:24] <gsilvapt> Let me ask the official way 
[23:24] <wxl> i'd just ask at the forum
[23:24] <wxl> i'm not sure how directly involved popey is in the development 
[23:25] <kc2bez> it looks like GitHub releases happen near monthly. I am not sure how often they land in the archive. 
[23:25] <wxl> his official role is developer advocate, not developer
[23:25] <gsilvapt> right. I'll ask in the forum + LP then 
[23:26] <wxl> i mean i'm sure he's doing development but you get what i mean
[23:28] <gsilvapt> I asked in the PR. They seem pretty active over there :) 
[23:29] <wxl> yep
[23:30] <wxl> snaps are here to stay for sure
 @lynorian any updates on a manual snap?
[23:39] <lynorian> no been quite sick and otherwise worried for last bit
[23:40] <wxl> omg i didn't know you were sick lyn :(
[23:40] <kc2bez> I hope you feel better soon lynorian 
 Get well soon Lyn
 We miss you
[23:41] <wxl> we also miss YOU tsimonq2 :/
 hi
[23:41] <kc2bez> ack
[23:41] <kc2bez> XD
[23:41] <wxl> X''''''''''D
 ack
 XD
[23:43] <kc2bez> It is true though, we do miss you @tsimonq2