| lubot | <heysoundude> Hello- running 18.04. How do I take a screenshot? | 03:07 |
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| lubot | <devikri> @heysoundude [Hello- running 18.04. How do I take a screenshot?], print screen | 03:08 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> I don’t have that button on my keyboard. Alternatives, like a right-click? | 03:38 |
| guiverc | @hewsounddude most keyboards do have it; laptops with small keyboards often need a combination; but `scrot` is a CLI (command line) tool | 03:47 |
| wxl | @heysoundude see the `scrot` command. you can edit the openbox config to set it to whatever you want, including mouse bindings. http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings#Mouse_bindings | 03:48 |
| * guiverc looks at 2019 dell keyboard; it needs fn+INSERT to be used for printscreen | 03:48 | |
| lubot | <heysoundude> I’m using a 2000s Mac keyboard. | 03:49 |
| lubot | <heysoundude> scrot, you say... | 03:50 |
| guiverc | I mentioned `scrot` as it showed in https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/lubuntu-desktop (`lximage-qt` for modern Lubuntu I like better but not for 18.04) | 03:50 |
| guiverc | i just ran `scrot` on my 20.04 box; it saved screen-capture to a file in my $HOME (/home/guiverc/) directory named by date+time | 03:51 |
| wxl | i prefer `scrot -s` which lets you select a region | 03:53 |
| rizwan | hi all | 13:49 |
| rizwan | i am trying to downgrade my Lubuntu to an LTS version | 13:49 |
| rizwan | but cant find easy to follow info on partitioning my hoe | 13:49 |
| rizwan | home* | 13:49 |
| rizwan | can anyone point me to accessable resources? | 13:49 |
| diogenes_ | rizwan, what does downgrading have to do with partitioning? | 13:59 |
| rizwan | i need to partition my home drive | 13:59 |
| rizwan | dont i? | 14:00 |
| rizwan | so i dont lose data etc, and so i can distro hop easily in the future | 14:00 |
| diogenes_ | rizwan, downgrading means simply switching from a higher version to a lower one. | 14:00 |
| rizwan | ok | 14:00 |
| rizwan | so i wont lost any personal data? | 14:00 |
| diogenes_ | if you have a separate /home partition and you know what you do then you're safe. | 14:00 |
| rizwan | i dont have a seperate home partition | 14:00 |
| rizwan | i want to create one | 14:01 |
| diogenes_ | then it's a risk so first of all backup your most important data on some external driver, there is a saying: "the data that has no backup, is not an important data" | 14:02 |
| diogenes_ | drive* | 14:02 |
| rizwan | ok | 14:04 |
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| rizwan | hey all | 19:40 |
| wxl | o/ | 19:40 |
| rizwan | the bootable usb i am creating with 'Startup Disc Creator' isnt working | 19:40 |
| rizwan | I want to downgrade lubuntu to the LTS | 19:40 |
| rizwan | is there another way to do it? | 19:40 |
| rizwan | I think SDC might be a bit buggy | 19:40 |
| wxl | i wouldn't suggest downgrading. once that LTS is EoL you are on your own. Lubuntu will no longer support LXDE or any of the GTK applications associated with it. | 19:41 |
| rizwan | yeah but that wont happe nfor likek 5 years | 19:42 |
| rizwan | and i am having repo problems when trying to download something for work | 19:42 |
| wxl | nope | 19:42 |
| rizwan | so i need to downgrade tbh | 19:42 |
| wxl | we will support 18.04 (and all LTSs) for 3 years. 2018+3=2021. | 19:43 |
| wxl | april 2021, i might add. | 19:44 |
| rizwan | yes | 19:44 |
| kc2bez | I have used SDC many times and it has always worked quite well. | 19:44 |
| wxl | if you've got issues with your repos, that probably has nothing to do with the version you're on, but the way you've defined the repos. | 19:44 |
| rizwan | i want to downgrade to 18.04 lol | 19:44 |
| rizwan | is there a way to do that without booting from usb etc | 19:45 |
| rizwan | ? | 19:45 |
| wxl | there are ways to break your own repos | 19:45 |
| wxl | not really, no. i guess you could change all the instances of whatever codename you're using to bionic in the repos | 19:45 |
| wxl | even then i'm not sure that would do it | 19:45 |
| wxl | and if your repos are already broken, prbably not the best idea.... | 19:45 |
| wxl | rizwan: you aren't on 18.10 are you? | 19:50 |
| rizwan | yes i am | 19:50 |
| wxl | oh boy | 19:50 |
| rizwan | ? | 19:50 |
| rizwan | i want to go to 18.04 | 19:50 |
| wxl | well that may be part of the problem; it's EoL | 19:50 |
| rizwan | what does EoL mean? | 19:50 |
| rizwan | end of the line? | 19:51 |
| wxl | end of life | 19:51 |
| wxl | not supported | 19:51 |
| rizwan | oh ok | 19:51 |
| rizwan | yeah i want to move to LTS | 19:51 |
| kc2bez | I think you want to upgrade not downgrade | 19:51 |
| wxl | likely problematic | 19:51 |
| rizwan | upgrade to what? | 19:51 |
| rizwan | and how can i do so simply? | 19:51 |
| kc2bez | 19.10 | 19:51 |
| wxl | meaning all of the applications on it are likely problematic | 19:51 |
| rizwan | my USB booting isnt working and it is a headache | 19:51 |
| wxl | startup disc creator included | 19:51 |
| rizwan | is there an easier way to do si? | 19:51 |
| rizwan | so* | 19:51 |
| kc2bez | Here is our manual page for upgrading https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/D/upgrading.html | 19:52 |
| rizwan | LOL | 19:54 |
| rizwan | ok that is simple | 19:54 |
| rizwan | thanks all <3 <3 | 19:54 |
| wxl | yep be well | 19:54 |
| kc2bez | Oh shoot they left. wxl am I correct upgrading from 18.10 will only take you to 19.04 ? | 19:56 |
| wxl | pretty sure of it | 19:56 |
| wxl | there's also | 19:56 |
| wxl | !eol | 19:56 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 19:56 |
| wxl | that latter link | 19:57 |
| wxl | but right now the wiki's all 500s :/ | 19:57 |
| kc2bez | 19.04 is good for a few more days XD | 19:58 |
| wxl | `ubuntu-distro-info --series=disco --days=eol` | 19:59 |
| wxl | 8 | 19:59 |
| wxl | more than a week XD | 20:00 |
| kc2bez | plenty of time :D | 20:00 |
| rizwan | so that went wrong | 20:04 |
| rizwan | I followed those instructions, got to the last command, entered it, and this happened -> https://dpaste.org/j3Fc | 20:04 |
| lubot | <teward001> on 19.04? | 20:05 |
| lubot | <teward001> that shouldn't happen, unless they EOL'd it early | 20:05 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> 18.10 | 20:05 |
| rizwan | what shall i do? Can someone help? | 20:06 |
| lubot | <teward001> ah, yes, 18.10 is dead. https://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release might be able to assist though | 20:06 |
| lubot | <teward001> point your repositories at oldreleases before attempting the 19.04 upgrade | 20:06 |
| wxl | or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 20:06 |
| lubot | <teward001> that too | 20:06 |
| rizwan | lubot: I dont know how to do that | 20:06 |
| wxl | just follow the instructions at the uri given | 20:07 |
| rizwan | what does 'upgrade path' mean in the instructions? | 20:08 |
| wxl | like you can go from 18.04 to 19.04 and from there to 19.10 | 20:09 |
| rizwan | oh ok | 20:09 |
| lubot | <teward001> but from 18.10 you have to upgrade to 19.04 first | 20:09 |
| lubot | <teward001> which requires the use of old-releases to make it not error out hard | 20:09 |
| rizwan | so basically i dont understand some of these instructions lol | 20:09 |
| rizwan | under the subheading 'Update sources.list', I entered the first command "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" in my terminal and it said that deb is not a command | 20:10 |
| lubot | <teward001> that's not a command | 20:11 |
| lubot | <teward001> that's the information you have to put *into* your sources.list file | 20:11 |
| rizwan | oh ok | 20:11 |
| lubot | <teward001> OR you can use the command from the Ask Ubuntu post which will edit the file for you in-place: sudo sed -i -re 's/([a-z]{2}\.)?archive.ubuntu.com|security.ubuntu.com/old-releases.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list | 20:11 |
| rizwan | i dont know what that is lol | 20:11 |
| lubot | <teward001> run the command i stated (the whole thing) on the terminal. let me know when you're done with that. | 20:12 |
| rizwan | ok i have done that | 20:12 |
| rizwan | should i run any other commands to sort out my sources.list file | 20:12 |
| rizwan | ? | 20:12 |
| lubot | <teward001> you shouldn't have to do anything extra for your sources.list file. Now run `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && sudo do-release-upgrade` on the command line. | 20:14 |
| lubot | <teward001> erm | 20:14 |
| lubot | <teward001> don't do that | 20:14 |
| rizwan | lol ok | 20:14 |
| lubot | <teward001> just run this part of it: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y | 20:14 |
| rizwan | i wont do that | 20:14 |
| lubot | <teward001> i included an extra command I don't want you to run yet in the first one :P | 20:14 |
| rizwan | ok i have just run ' sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y | 20:14 |
| rizwan | it is done | 20:14 |
| rizwan | now what shall i run? | 20:14 |
| lubot | <teward001> On the command line run this: sudo do-release-upgrade | 20:15 |
| lubot | <teward001> this will start the upgrade process from 18.10 to 19.04 | 20:15 |
| lubot | <teward001> backup any data you want to keep FIRST to external media in case this fails and you have to do a clean install | 20:15 |
| rizwan | this is the output for your last command btw: https://dpaste.org/sA1Q | 20:15 |
| rizwan | shall i go ahead with the command you just gave me? Is everything alright? | 20:15 |
| lubot | <teward001> no not yet | 20:15 |
| lubot | <teward001> hmm | 20:15 |
| rizwan | ok | 20:16 |
| rizwan | what should i do? | 20:16 |
| lubot | <teward001> well cosmic isnt moved to old releases yet... bleh. Run: sudo sed -i -re 's/old-releases.ubuntu.com/archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list | 20:17 |
| lubot | <teward001> show me the output afterwards before we proceed | 20:18 |
| rizwan | this is the output: https://dpaste.org/oKzW | 20:20 |
| lubot | <teward001> okay now run `sudo apt-get update` and show me the output | 20:21 |
| rizwan | sure one sec | 20:21 |
| lubot | <teward001> (I want to make sure we don't get 404s, and if we do then we have a problem :P) | 20:21 |
| rizwan | here is the output: https://dpaste.org/oy2n | 20:25 |
| rizwan | thoughts? | 20:29 |
| lubot | <teward001> the remaining 404 and 403 are because of dead repositories | 20:31 |
| rizwan | ok | 20:32 |
| rizwan | should we ignore them then? | 20:32 |
| lubot | <teward001> so try running this: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/{*jonathonf*,*nathan-renniewaldock*}.list* | 20:32 |
| lubot | <teward001> and no we need to remove those PPA entries in your system to make sure we can get it to succeed on `apt-get update` otherwise the upgrade won't progress | 20:33 |
| rizwan | ok | 20:33 |
| rizwan | i just ran ' sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/{*jonathonf*,*nathan-renniewaldock*}.list*' | 20:33 |
| rizwan | the terminal did not output anything | 20:33 |
| rizwan | so presumably everything is ok | 20:33 |
| lubot | <teward001> it shouldn't :P | 20:33 |
| rizwan | :D | 20:33 |
| lubot | <teward001> run `sudo apt-get update` again, and if you don't see any errors or warnings stated then we can continue otherwise show me the output from the command | 20:33 |
| lubot | <teward001> it won't give you the "E:" or "N:" lines at the end if it doesn't error | 20:34 |
| rizwan | ok cool one sec | 20:35 |
| rizwan | i will show you the output once it is done | 20:35 |
| lubot | <teward001> ok | 20:35 |
| rizwan | it was not entirely successful apparently: https://dpaste.org/yiRg | 20:37 |
| lubot | <teward001> those're different issues though heh. Those look like we're hitting a rate limit for it which is not atypical for Microsoft and other vendors oddly enough. Give it 5 minutes and then rerun `sudo apt-get update`1 | 20:38 |
| lubot | <teward001> without that 1 at the end (typo is evil) | 20:39 |
| rizwan | sure i will do so after 5 mins and then show you the output again | 20:39 |
| rizwan | see you at 20:44 | 20:39 |
| rizwan | lel | 20:39 |
| rizwan | https://dpaste.org/qOGO <- output | 20:46 |
| rizwan | lubot: everything seems to work fine now. what are your thoughts? | 20:46 |
| wxl | @teward001 that's you ^ | 20:48 |
| rizwan | ? | 20:51 |
| rizwan | wxl: thanks | 20:51 |
| wxl | i didn't follow the whole thing, so i'll stay out of it but if he doesn't reply soon, let me know | 20:52 |
| wxl | fwiw i can tell you thta last one looks successful | 20:52 |
| lubot | <teward001> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y | 20:55 |
| lubot | <teward001> let it run | 20:55 |
| rizwan | ay | 20:55 |
| rizwan | lubot: will do | 20:55 |
| lubot | <teward001> ping 'teward' or 'teward001' | 20:56 |
| lubot | <teward001> lubot is just the placeholder for bridging our Telegram channel and the IRC Support channel | 20:56 |
| lubot | <teward001> oh hey lookit I pinged myself on all my devices >.> | 20:56 |
| wxl | rizwan: just to make it clear lubot is a bridge to our telegram channel. so anytime you see something from that nick, it's not actually from "lubot," but from whatever is in the <>, in this case teward001 | 20:56 |
| teward | Though i also get pings here if you ping ‘teward’ or ‘teward001’ as well | 20:57 |
| teward | So still me :) | 20:57 |
| rizwan | oh haha! ok | 20:57 |
| wxl | rizwan: furthermore, telegram uses @ to indicate a mention (like twitter) so you can add that and you'll notify whomever | 20:57 |
| rizwan | cool - thanks XD | 20:57 |
| tbs_ | rizwan: i use balenaEtcher | 21:01 |
| rizwan | cool thanks! | 21:02 |
| rizwan | 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y' is running | 21:02 |
| rizwan | seems to be working fine yay | 21:02 |
| lubot | <teward001> rizwan: after that completes, run `sudo do-release-upgrade` on the command line (without the backticks, they're just to identify the command) | 21:12 |
| lubot | <teward001> then follow the prompts | 21:13 |
| lubot | <teward001> it SHOULD then work | 21:13 |
| rizwan | sure | 21:13 |
| rizwan | will do | 21:13 |
| rizwan | do i reboot after running `sudo do-release-upgrade` | 21:13 |
| lubot | <teward001> yes, but the upgrade process will take ***a while*** so you'll be waiting at least an hour or more before you get to that step | 21:13 |
| lubot | <teward001> because an in-place upgrade like that takes a VERY long time to run | 21:13 |
| rizwan | hey all https://dpaste.org/MJah <- this is the output. Is it ok? | 21:18 |
| rizwan | @teward | 21:18 |
| lubot | <teward001> yes | 21:18 |
| lubot | <teward001> now run `sudo do-release-upgrade` | 21:18 |
| rizwan | ok | 21:29 |
| rizwan | i am running that now | 21:29 |
| rizwan | hey all this just appeared in my terminal: '│ │ | 21:47 |
| rizwan | │ xscreensaver and xlockmore must be restarted before upgrading │ | 21:47 |
| rizwan | │ │ | 21:47 |
| rizwan | │ One or more running instances of xscreensaver or xlockmore have been detected on this system. Because of incompatible library changes, the upgrade of the GNU libc library will leave │ | 21:47 |
| rizwan | │ you unable to authenticate to these programs. You should arrange for these programs to be restarted or stopped before continuing this upgrade, to avoid locking your users out of │ | 21:47 |
| rizwan | │ their current sessions. ' | 21:47 |
| rizwan | thanks | 21:48 |
| rizwan | sorry i should have dpasted that | 21:48 |
| wxl | just say ok. that's normal | 21:48 |
| rizwan | ok i hit enter on ok | 21:48 |
| rizwan | and now ill forget baout it | 21:49 |
| wxl | yeah if you restart (or even log out/back in again) then all of that will be irrelevant | 21:51 |
| wxl | you can do that when you're all done :) | 21:51 |
| rizwan | ok cool | 21:52 |
| rizwan | yeah after it is all done i will restart my machine | 21:52 |
| teward | Just tap your mouse eveery so often so your system doesn’t lock :P | 23:45 |
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