[03:07] Hello- running 18.04. How do I take a screenshot? [03:08] @heysoundude [Hello- running 18.04. How do I take a screenshot?], print screen [03:38] I don’t have that button on my keyboard. Alternatives, like a right-click? [03:47] @hewsounddude most keyboards do have it; laptops with small keyboards often need a combination; but `scrot` is a CLI (command line) tool [03:48] @heysoundude see the `scrot` command. you can edit the openbox config to set it to whatever you want, including mouse bindings. http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings#Mouse_bindings [03:48] * guiverc looks at 2019 dell keyboard; it needs fn+INSERT to be used for printscreen [03:49] I’m using a 2000s Mac keyboard. [03:50] scrot, you say... [03:50] I mentioned `scrot` as it showed in https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/lubuntu-desktop (`lximage-qt` for modern Lubuntu I like better but not for 18.04) [03:51] i just ran `scrot` on my 20.04 box; it saved screen-capture to a file in my $HOME (/home/guiverc/) directory named by date+time [03:53] i prefer `scrot -s` which lets you select a region [13:49] hi all [13:49] i am trying to downgrade my Lubuntu to an LTS version [13:49] but cant find easy to follow info on partitioning my hoe [13:49] home* [13:49] can anyone point me to accessable resources? [13:59] rizwan, what does downgrading have to do with partitioning? [13:59] i need to partition my home drive [14:00] dont i? [14:00] so i dont lose data etc, and so i can distro hop easily in the future [14:00] rizwan, downgrading means simply switching from a higher version to a lower one. [14:00] ok [14:00] so i wont lost any personal data? [14:00] if you have a separate /home partition and you know what you do then you're safe. [14:00] i dont have a seperate home partition [14:01] i want to create one [14:02] then it's a risk so first of all backup your most important data on some external driver, there is a saying: "the data that has no backup, is not an important data" [14:02] drive* [14:04] ok === charles is now known as Guest15494 === charles is now known as Guest43494 === FrankF1 is now known as FrankF [19:40] hey all [19:40] o/ [19:40] the bootable usb i am creating with 'Startup Disc Creator' isnt working [19:40] I want to downgrade lubuntu to the LTS [19:40] is there another way to do it? [19:40] I think SDC might be a bit buggy [19:41] i wouldn't suggest downgrading. once that LTS is EoL you are on your own. Lubuntu will no longer support LXDE or any of the GTK applications associated with it. [19:42] yeah but that wont happe nfor likek 5 years [19:42] and i am having repo problems when trying to download something for work [19:42] nope [19:42] so i need to downgrade tbh [19:43] we will support 18.04 (and all LTSs) for 3 years. 2018+3=2021. [19:44] april 2021, i might add. [19:44] yes [19:44] I have used SDC many times and it has always worked quite well. [19:44] if you've got issues with your repos, that probably has nothing to do with the version you're on, but the way you've defined the repos. [19:44] i want to downgrade to 18.04 lol [19:45] is there a way to do that without booting from usb etc [19:45] ? [19:45] there are ways to break your own repos [19:45] not really, no. i guess you could change all the instances of whatever codename you're using to bionic in the repos [19:45] even then i'm not sure that would do it [19:45] and if your repos are already broken, prbably not the best idea.... [19:50] rizwan: you aren't on 18.10 are you? [19:50] yes i am [19:50] oh boy [19:50] ? [19:50] i want to go to 18.04 [19:50] well that may be part of the problem; it's EoL [19:50] what does EoL mean? [19:51] end of the line? [19:51] end of life [19:51] not supported [19:51] oh ok [19:51] yeah i want to move to LTS [19:51] I think you want to upgrade not downgrade [19:51] likely problematic [19:51] upgrade to what? [19:51] and how can i do so simply? [19:51] 19.10 [19:51] meaning all of the applications on it are likely problematic [19:51] my USB booting isnt working and it is a headache [19:51] startup disc creator included [19:51] is there an easier way to do si? [19:51] so* [19:52] Here is our manual page for upgrading https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/D/upgrading.html [19:54] LOL [19:54] ok that is simple [19:54] thanks all <3 <3 [19:54] yep be well [19:56] Oh shoot they left. wxl am I correct upgrading from 18.10 will only take you to 19.04 ? [19:56] pretty sure of it [19:56] there's also [19:56] !eol [19:56] End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [19:57] that latter link [19:57] but right now the wiki's all 500s :/ [19:58] 19.04 is good for a few more days XD [19:59] `ubuntu-distro-info --series=disco --days=eol` [19:59] 8 [20:00] more than a week XD [20:00] plenty of time :D [20:04] so that went wrong [20:04] I followed those instructions, got to the last command, entered it, and this happened -> https://dpaste.org/j3Fc [20:05] on 19.04? [20:05] that shouldn't happen, unless they EOL'd it early [20:05] 18.10 [20:06] what shall i do? Can someone help? [20:06] ah, yes, 18.10 is dead. https://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release might be able to assist though [20:06] point your repositories at oldreleases before attempting the 19.04 upgrade [20:06] or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [20:06] that too [20:06] lubot: I dont know how to do that [20:07] just follow the instructions at the uri given [20:08] what does 'upgrade path' mean in the instructions? [20:09] like you can go from 18.04 to 19.04 and from there to 19.10 [20:09] oh ok [20:09] but from 18.10 you have to upgrade to 19.04 first [20:09] which requires the use of old-releases to make it not error out hard [20:09] so basically i dont understand some of these instructions lol [20:10] under the subheading 'Update sources.list', I entered the first command "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" in my terminal and it said that deb is not a command [20:11] that's not a command [20:11] that's the information you have to put *into* your sources.list file [20:11] oh ok [20:11] OR you can use the command from the Ask Ubuntu post which will edit the file for you in-place: sudo sed -i -re 's/([a-z]{2}\.)?archive.ubuntu.com|security.ubuntu.com/old-releases.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list [20:11] i dont know what that is lol [20:12] run the command i stated (the whole thing) on the terminal. let me know when you're done with that. [20:12] ok i have done that [20:12] should i run any other commands to sort out my sources.list file [20:12] ? [20:14] you shouldn't have to do anything extra for your sources.list file. Now run `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && sudo do-release-upgrade` on the command line. [20:14] erm [20:14] don't do that [20:14] lol ok [20:14] just run this part of it: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y [20:14] i wont do that [20:14] i included an extra command I don't want you to run yet in the first one :P [20:14] ok i have just run ' sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y [20:14] it is done [20:14] now what shall i run? [20:15] On the command line run this: sudo do-release-upgrade [20:15] this will start the upgrade process from 18.10 to 19.04 [20:15] backup any data you want to keep FIRST to external media in case this fails and you have to do a clean install [20:15] this is the output for your last command btw: https://dpaste.org/sA1Q [20:15] shall i go ahead with the command you just gave me? Is everything alright? [20:15] no not yet [20:15] hmm [20:16] ok [20:16] what should i do? [20:17] well cosmic isnt moved to old releases yet... bleh. Run: sudo sed -i -re 's/old-releases.ubuntu.com/archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list [20:18] show me the output afterwards before we proceed [20:20] this is the output: https://dpaste.org/oKzW [20:21] okay now run `sudo apt-get update` and show me the output [20:21] sure one sec [20:21] (I want to make sure we don't get 404s, and if we do then we have a problem :P) [20:25] here is the output: https://dpaste.org/oy2n [20:29] thoughts? [20:31] the remaining 404 and 403 are because of dead repositories [20:32] ok [20:32] should we ignore them then? [20:32] so try running this: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/{*jonathonf*,*nathan-renniewaldock*}.list* [20:33] and no we need to remove those PPA entries in your system to make sure we can get it to succeed on `apt-get update` otherwise the upgrade won't progress [20:33] ok [20:33] i just ran ' sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/{*jonathonf*,*nathan-renniewaldock*}.list*' [20:33] the terminal did not output anything [20:33] so presumably everything is ok [20:33] it shouldn't :P [20:33] :D [20:33] run `sudo apt-get update` again, and if you don't see any errors or warnings stated then we can continue otherwise show me the output from the command [20:34] it won't give you the "E:" or "N:" lines at the end if it doesn't error [20:35] ok cool one sec [20:35] i will show you the output once it is done [20:35] ok [20:37] it was not entirely successful apparently: https://dpaste.org/yiRg [20:38] those're different issues though heh. Those look like we're hitting a rate limit for it which is not atypical for Microsoft and other vendors oddly enough. Give it 5 minutes and then rerun `sudo apt-get update`1 [20:39] without that 1 at the end (typo is evil) [20:39] sure i will do so after 5 mins and then show you the output again [20:39] see you at 20:44 [20:39] lel [20:46] https://dpaste.org/qOGO <- output [20:46] lubot: everything seems to work fine now. what are your thoughts? [20:48] @teward001 that's you ^ [20:51] ? [20:51] wxl: thanks [20:52] i didn't follow the whole thing, so i'll stay out of it but if he doesn't reply soon, let me know [20:52] fwiw i can tell you thta last one looks successful [20:55] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y [20:55] let it run [20:55] ay [20:55] lubot: will do [20:56] ping 'teward' or 'teward001' [20:56] lubot is just the placeholder for bridging our Telegram channel and the IRC Support channel [20:56] oh hey lookit I pinged myself on all my devices >.> [20:56] rizwan: just to make it clear lubot is a bridge to our telegram channel. so anytime you see something from that nick, it's not actually from "lubot," but from whatever is in the <>, in this case teward001 [20:57] Though i also get pings here if you ping ‘teward’ or ‘teward001’ as well [20:57] So still me :) [20:57] oh haha! ok [20:57] rizwan: furthermore, telegram uses @ to indicate a mention (like twitter) so you can add that and you'll notify whomever [20:57] cool - thanks XD [21:01] rizwan: i use balenaEtcher [21:02] cool thanks! [21:02] 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y' is running [21:02] seems to be working fine yay [21:12] rizwan: after that completes, run `sudo do-release-upgrade` on the command line (without the backticks, they're just to identify the command) [21:13] then follow the prompts [21:13] it SHOULD then work [21:13] sure [21:13] will do [21:13] do i reboot after running `sudo do-release-upgrade` [21:13] yes, but the upgrade process will take ***a while*** so you'll be waiting at least an hour or more before you get to that step [21:13] because an in-place upgrade like that takes a VERY long time to run [21:18] hey all https://dpaste.org/MJah <- this is the output. Is it ok? [21:18] @teward [21:18] yes [21:18] now run `sudo do-release-upgrade` [21:29] ok [21:29] i am running that now [21:47] hey all this just appeared in my terminal: '│ │ [21:47] │ xscreensaver and xlockmore must be restarted before upgrading │ [21:47] │ │ [21:47] │ One or more running instances of xscreensaver or xlockmore have been detected on this system. Because of incompatible library changes, the upgrade of the GNU libc library will leave │ [21:47] │ you unable to authenticate to these programs. You should arrange for these programs to be restarted or stopped before continuing this upgrade, to avoid locking your users out of │ [21:47] │ their current sessions. ' [21:48] thanks [21:48] sorry i should have dpasted that [21:48] just say ok. that's normal [21:48] ok i hit enter on ok [21:49] and now ill forget baout it [21:51] yeah if you restart (or even log out/back in again) then all of that will be irrelevant [21:51] you can do that when you're all done :) [21:52] ok cool [21:52] yeah after it is all done i will restart my machine [23:45] Just tap your mouse eveery so often so your system doesn’t lock :P