 Hello- running 18.04. How do I take a screenshot?
 @heysoundude [Hello- running 18.04. How do I take a screenshot?], print screen
 I don’t have that button on my keyboard. Alternatives, like a right-click?
[03:47] <guiverc> @hewsounddude  most keyboards do have it; laptops with small keyboards often need a combination; but `scrot` is a CLI (command line) tool
[03:48] <wxl> @heysoundude see the `scrot` command. you can edit the openbox config to set it to whatever you want, including mouse bindings. http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings#Mouse_bindings
[03:48]  * guiverc looks at 2019 dell keyboard; it needs fn+INSERT to be used for printscreen
 I’m using a 2000s Mac keyboard.
 scrot, you say...
[03:50] <guiverc> I mentioned `scrot` as it showed in https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/lubuntu-desktop  (`lximage-qt` for modern Lubuntu I like better but not for 18.04)
[03:51] <guiverc> i just ran `scrot` on my 20.04 box; it saved screen-capture to a file in my $HOME (/home/guiverc/) directory named by date+time
[03:53] <wxl> i prefer `scrot -s` which lets you select a region
[13:49] <rizwan> hi all
[13:49] <rizwan> i am trying to downgrade my Lubuntu to an LTS version
[13:49] <rizwan> but cant find easy to follow info on partitioning my hoe
[13:49] <rizwan> home*
[13:49] <rizwan> can anyone point me to accessable resources?
[13:59] <diogenes_> rizwan, what does downgrading have to do with partitioning?
[13:59] <rizwan> i need to partition my home drive
[14:00] <rizwan> dont i?
[14:00] <rizwan> so i dont lose data etc, and so i can distro hop easily in the future
[14:00] <diogenes_> rizwan, downgrading means simply switching from a higher version to a lower one.
[14:00] <rizwan> ok
[14:00] <rizwan> so i wont lost any personal data?
[14:00] <diogenes_> if you have a separate /home partition and you know what you do then you're safe.
[14:00] <rizwan> i dont have a seperate home partition
[14:01] <rizwan> i want to create one
[14:02] <diogenes_> then it's a risk so first of all backup your most important data on some external driver, there is a saying: "the data that has no backup, is not an important data"
[14:02] <diogenes_> drive*
[14:04] <rizwan> ok
[19:40] <rizwan> hey all
[19:40] <wxl> o/
[19:40] <rizwan> the bootable usb i am creating with 'Startup Disc Creator' isnt working
[19:40] <rizwan> I want to downgrade lubuntu to the LTS
[19:40] <rizwan> is there another way to do it?
[19:40] <rizwan> I think SDC might be a bit buggy
[19:41] <wxl> i wouldn't suggest downgrading. once that LTS is EoL you are on your own. Lubuntu will no longer support LXDE or any of the GTK applications associated with it.
[19:42] <rizwan> yeah but that wont happe nfor likek 5 years
[19:42] <rizwan> and i am having repo problems when trying to download something for work
[19:42] <wxl> nope
[19:42] <rizwan> so i need to downgrade tbh
[19:43] <wxl> we will support 18.04 (and all LTSs) for 3 years. 2018+3=2021.
[19:44] <wxl> april 2021, i might add.
[19:44] <rizwan> yes
[19:44] <kc2bez> I have used SDC many times and it has always worked quite well.
[19:44] <wxl> if you've got issues with your repos, that probably has nothing to do with the version you're on, but the way you've defined the repos.
[19:44] <rizwan> i want to downgrade to 18.04 lol
[19:45] <rizwan> is there a way to do that without booting from usb etc
[19:45] <rizwan> ?
[19:45] <wxl> there are ways to break your own repos
[19:45] <wxl> not really, no. i guess you could change all the instances of whatever codename you're using to bionic in the repos
[19:45] <wxl> even then i'm not sure that would do it
[19:45] <wxl> and if your repos are already broken, prbably not the best idea....
[19:50] <wxl> rizwan: you aren't on 18.10 are you?
[19:50] <rizwan> yes i am
[19:50] <wxl> oh boy
[19:50] <rizwan> ?
[19:50] <rizwan> i want to go to 18.04
[19:50] <wxl> well that may be part of the problem; it's EoL
[19:50] <rizwan> what does EoL mean?
[19:51] <rizwan> end of the line?
[19:51] <wxl> end of life
[19:51] <wxl> not supported
[19:51] <rizwan> oh ok
[19:51] <rizwan> yeah i want to move to LTS
[19:51] <kc2bez> I think you want to upgrade not downgrade
[19:51] <wxl> likely problematic
[19:51] <rizwan> upgrade to what?
[19:51] <rizwan> and how can i do so simply?
[19:51] <kc2bez> 19.10
[19:51] <wxl> meaning all of the applications on it are likely problematic
[19:51] <rizwan> my USB booting isnt working and it is a headache
[19:51] <wxl> startup disc creator included
[19:51] <rizwan> is there an easier way to do si?
[19:51] <rizwan> so*
[19:52] <kc2bez> Here is our manual page for upgrading https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/D/upgrading.html
[19:54] <rizwan> LOL
[19:54] <rizwan> ok that is simple
[19:54] <rizwan> thanks all <3 <3
[19:54] <wxl> yep be well
[19:56] <kc2bez> Oh shoot they left. wxl am I correct upgrading from 18.10 will only take you to 19.04 ?
[19:56] <wxl> pretty sure of it
[19:56] <wxl> there's also
[19:56] <wxl> !eol
[19:57] <wxl> that latter link
[19:57] <wxl> but right now the wiki's all 500s :/
[19:58] <kc2bez> 19.04 is good for a few more days XD
[19:59] <wxl> `ubuntu-distro-info --series=disco --days=eol`
[19:59] <wxl> 8
[20:00] <wxl> more than a week XD
[20:00] <kc2bez> plenty of time :D
[20:04] <rizwan> so that went wrong
[20:04] <rizwan> I followed those instructions, got to the last command, entered it, and this happened -> https://dpaste.org/j3Fc
 on 19.04?
 that shouldn't happen, unless they EOL'd it early
 18.10
[20:06] <rizwan> what shall i do? Can someone help?
 ah, yes, 18.10 is dead.  https://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release might be able to assist though
 point your repositories at oldreleases before attempting the 19.04 upgrade
[20:06] <wxl> or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
 that too
[20:06] <rizwan> lubot: I dont know how to do that
[20:07] <wxl> just follow the instructions at the uri given
[20:08] <rizwan> what does 'upgrade path' mean in the instructions?
[20:09] <wxl> like you can go from 18.04 to 19.04 and from there to 19.10
[20:09] <rizwan> oh ok
 but from 18.10 you have to upgrade to 19.04 first
 which requires the use of old-releases to make it not error out hard
[20:09] <rizwan> so basically i dont understand some of these instructions lol
[20:10] <rizwan> under the subheading 'Update sources.list', I entered the first command "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" in my terminal and it said that deb is not a command
 that's not a command
 that's the information you have to put *into* your sources.list file
[20:11] <rizwan> oh ok
 OR you can use the command from the Ask Ubuntu post which will edit the file for you in-place: sudo sed -i -re 's/([a-z]{2}\.)?archive.ubuntu.com|security.ubuntu.com/old-releases.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:11] <rizwan> i dont know what that is lol
 run the command i stated (the whole thing) on the terminal.  let me know when you're done with that.
[20:12] <rizwan> ok i have done that
[20:12] <rizwan> should i run any other commands to sort out my sources.list file
[20:12] <rizwan> ?
 you shouldn't have to do anything extra for your sources.list file.  Now run `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && sudo do-release-upgrade` on the command line.
 erm
 don't do that
[20:14] <rizwan> lol ok
 just run this part of it:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[20:14] <rizwan> i wont do that
 i included an extra command I don't want you to run yet in the first one :P
[20:14] <rizwan> ok i have just run '  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[20:14] <rizwan> it is done
[20:14] <rizwan> now what shall i run?
 On the command line run this: sudo do-release-upgrade
 this will start the upgrade process from 18.10 to 19.04
 backup any data you want to keep FIRST to external media in case this fails and you have to do a clean install
[20:15] <rizwan> this is the output for your last command btw: https://dpaste.org/sA1Q
[20:15] <rizwan> shall i go ahead with the command you just gave me? Is everything alright?
 no not yet
 hmm
[20:16] <rizwan> ok
[20:16] <rizwan> what should i do?
 well cosmic isnt moved to old releases yet... bleh.  Run: sudo sed -i -re 's/old-releases.ubuntu.com/archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
 show me the output afterwards before we proceed
[20:20] <rizwan> this is the output: https://dpaste.org/oKzW
 okay now run `sudo apt-get update` and show me the output
[20:21] <rizwan> sure one sec
 (I want to make sure we don't get 404s, and if we do then we have a problem :P)
[20:25] <rizwan> here is the output: https://dpaste.org/oy2n
[20:29] <rizwan> thoughts?
 the remaining 404 and 403 are because of dead repositories
[20:32] <rizwan> ok
[20:32] <rizwan> should we ignore them then?
 so try running this: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/{*jonathonf*,*nathan-renniewaldock*}.list*
 and no we need to remove those PPA entries in your system to make sure we can get it to succeed on `apt-get update` otherwise the upgrade won't progress
[20:33] <rizwan> ok
[20:33] <rizwan> i just ran ' sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/{*jonathonf*,*nathan-renniewaldock*}.list*'
[20:33] <rizwan> the terminal did not output anything
[20:33] <rizwan> so presumably everything is ok
 it shouldn't :P
[20:33] <rizwan> :D
 run `sudo apt-get update` again, and if you don't see any errors or warnings stated then we can continue otherwise show me the output from the command
 it won't give you the "E:" or "N:" lines at the end if it doesn't error
[20:35] <rizwan> ok cool one sec
[20:35] <rizwan> i will show you the output once it is done
 ok
[20:37] <rizwan> it was not entirely successful apparently: https://dpaste.org/yiRg
 those're different issues though heh.  Those look like we're hitting a rate limit for it which is not atypical for Microsoft and other vendors oddly enough.  Give it 5 minutes and then rerun `sudo apt-get update`1
 without that 1 at the end (typo is evil)
[20:39] <rizwan> sure i will do so after 5 mins and then show you the output again
[20:39] <rizwan> see you at 20:44
[20:39] <rizwan> lel
[20:46] <rizwan> https://dpaste.org/qOGO <- output
[20:46] <rizwan> lubot: everything seems to work fine now. what are your thoughts?
[20:48] <wxl> @teward001 that's you ^
[20:51] <rizwan> ?
[20:51] <rizwan> wxl: thanks
[20:52] <wxl> i didn't follow the whole thing, so i'll stay out of it but if he doesn't reply soon, let me know
[20:52] <wxl> fwiw i can tell you thta last one looks successful
 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
 let it run
[20:55] <rizwan> ay
[20:55] <rizwan> lubot: will do
 ping 'teward' or 'teward001'
 lubot is just the placeholder for bridging our Telegram channel and the IRC Support channel
 oh hey lookit I pinged myself on all my devices >.>
[20:56] <wxl> rizwan: just to make it clear lubot is a bridge to our telegram channel. so anytime you see something from that nick, it's not actually from "lubot," but from whatever is in the <>, in this case teward001
[20:57] <teward> Though i also get pings here if you ping ‘teward’ or ‘teward001’ as well
[20:57] <teward> So still me :)
[20:57] <rizwan> oh haha! ok
[20:57] <wxl> rizwan: furthermore, telegram uses @ to indicate a mention (like twitter) so you can add that and you'll notify whomever
[20:57] <rizwan> cool - thanks XD
[21:01] <tbs_> rizwan: i use balenaEtcher
[21:02] <rizwan> cool thanks!
[21:02] <rizwan> 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y' is running
[21:02] <rizwan> seems to be working fine yay
 rizwan: after that completes, run `sudo do-release-upgrade` on the command line (without the backticks, they're just to identify the command)
 then follow the prompts
 it SHOULD then work
[21:13] <rizwan> sure
[21:13] <rizwan> will do
[21:13] <rizwan> do i reboot after running `sudo do-release-upgrade`
 yes, but the upgrade process will take ***a while*** so you'll be waiting at least an hour or more before you get to that step
 because an in-place upgrade like that takes a VERY long time to run
[21:18] <rizwan> hey all https://dpaste.org/MJah <- this is the output. Is it ok?
[21:18] <rizwan> @teward
 yes
 now run `sudo do-release-upgrade`
[21:29] <rizwan> ok
[21:29] <rizwan> i am running that now
[21:47] <rizwan> hey all this just appeared in my terminal: '│                                                                                                                                                                                        │
[21:47] <rizwan>  │ xscreensaver and xlockmore must be restarted before upgrading                                                                                                                          │
[21:47] <rizwan>  │                                                                                                                                                                                        │
[21:47] <rizwan>  │ One or more running instances of xscreensaver or xlockmore have been detected on this system. Because of incompatible library changes, the upgrade of the GNU libc library will leave  │
[21:47] <rizwan>  │ you unable to authenticate to these programs. You should arrange for these programs to be restarted or stopped before continuing this upgrade, to avoid locking your users out of      │
[21:47] <rizwan>  │ their current sessions.  '
[21:48] <rizwan> thanks
[21:48] <rizwan> sorry i should have dpasted that
[21:48] <wxl> just say ok. that's normal
[21:48] <rizwan> ok i hit enter on ok
[21:49] <rizwan> and now ill forget baout it
[21:51] <wxl> yeah if you restart (or even log out/back in again) then all of that will be irrelevant
[21:51] <wxl> you can do that when you're all done :)
[21:52] <rizwan> ok cool
[21:52] <rizwan> yeah after it is all done i will restart my machine
[23:45] <teward> Just tap your mouse eveery so often so your system doesn’t lock :P