[07:08] good morning desktoppers [07:11] hey desktopers [07:11] hey oSoMoN [07:12] good morning ricotz [07:17] Morning oSoMoN and ricotz [07:18] hey duflu [08:23] gooood morning desktopers [08:23] Morning seb128 [08:24] hey duflu, happy friday! how are you? had a good day? ready for the w.e? ;) [08:25] seb128, I'm tired but have achieved the fixes I wanted to for the week, so now from 4:25pm everything else is a bonus. How are you? [08:25] I'm good, a bit tired but it's friday so it's fine [08:26] also going to the co-working space in a bit, going to be nice to see some people :-) [09:02] hey! [09:04] happy friday Laney! [09:05] Morning Laney [09:06] morning oSoMoN ricotz duflu seb128 Laney [09:07] Hi marcustomlinson [09:41] sry got insta distracted with cd building [09:42] guten morgen one and all! [10:12] hi [10:12] Any news on the ongoing nvidia-wayland conflict or egl vs gbm ? [10:18] dan101, I am not aware of any news, but also this is probably the wrong place to ask for the latest. [10:19] duflu: sure, where should I ask? [10:19] dan101, maybe #gnome-shell on GimpNet? [10:19] * duflu prepares for the weekend [10:19] oh [10:20] Night all [10:26] Morning o/ === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [10:27] Wimpress, good morning, how are you? recovering from the hackfest? [10:29] Last day of the hackfest for us. [10:29] Sadly, the Taru team have left us :-( [10:29] We're working on a blog post to summarise what we worked on this week [10:31] woooot [10:33] moin Wimpress [10:33] didrocks still there or on the train already? [10:34] Didier is in train hell already. [10:34] His trains have been cancelled at least 3 times this week. [10:34] He need to leave early to get a different train because there is only one connection option in France now. [10:35] :( [10:42] hey Laney! I'm on the train, approximately near Lille [10:42] Laney: I changed my first train which was cancelled (and planned later in the day) [10:43] ironnically, I received a text message yesterday evening telling me that the new Eurostar I was supposed to take would leave on time, but arrive 90 minutes late in Paris [10:43] which would have make me miss my connexion to Paris -> Lyon [10:43] so, I was with atpi, so that they change my Eurostar, keeping the TGV one (I'll have one more hour in Paris to wait) [10:44] and of course, the Eurostar I just took was delayed as well, but planned for 20 minutes delay which transformed in leaving only 9 minutes late, so ok ;) [10:46] hey Laney! I'm on the train, approximately near Lille [10:46] Laney: I changed my first train which was cancelled (and planned later in the day) [10:46] ironnically, I received a text message yesterday evening telling me that the new Eurostar I was supposed to take would leave on time, but arrive 90 minutes late in Paris [10:46] which would have make me miss my connexion to Paris -> Lyon [10:46] so, I was with atpi, so that they change my Eurostar, keeping the TGV one (I'll have one more hour in Paris to wait) [10:46] and of course, the Eurostar I just took was delayed as well, but planned for 20 minutes delay which transformed in leaving only 9 minutes late, so ok ;) [10:46] it worked the first time :P [10:46] hey didrocks [10:46] oh, I was lagging and then disconnected [10:46] weechat was lying to me :) [10:47] sounds a bit stressful, but good that you found a nice option in the end [10:47] hope the week was worth the travel pain] [11:59] does anyone know if "Architecture: [!i386]" in debian/control works/if there is a way to do that? [12:00] ignore that [12:38] seb128: <3. Thanks for updating thunderbird! [12:38] popey, np! [13:58] hey from my train in Paris! [14:02] hey didrocks, glad to see that the trip is going well at the end [15:23] seb128 Laney didrocks Just tested this extension - https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/2087/desktop-icons-ng-ding/ [15:23] It is an new verion of the desktop icons we ship. [15:24] But, drag and drag to/from the desktop is working well :-) [15:24] Wimpress, why a fork rather than contribute to the existing one? [15:24] It is from the same author as the original. [15:24] I don't know why he has created a fork. [15:25] I just tested it, and it works very much like nautilus did in the past [15:25] i.e. worked well [15:27] It works quite differently, so he developed it separately to be able to make invasive changes [15:29] interesting [15:29] We've just run through some basic mpt guided testing. [15:29] Very encouraging. [15:34] ah, it's some kind of a hack, with a whole different concept [15:34] (it's a gtk application scaled and placed on the desktop) [15:34] wondering how it works for multiple monitors [15:35] That seems to be a limitation accordingly to comments on the extensions page. [15:35] :-/ [15:35] no good solution! [15:35] Well, could we not assist with that? [15:36] perhaps, no idea how much work that is [15:36] now? [15:36] we would need someone who understand what needs to be done to time budget [15:36] and trade for other work probably [15:36] since we are already over budget [15:36] Indeed. [15:37] you are the boss, so if you want to descope other work in favor of that... [15:37] step one would be to get someone to estimate the work [15:37] If you remember the incomplete desktop icons implementation was highlighted when we were at the last sprint. [15:37] We could choose to drop the current implemenation entirely. [15:37] yes, I'm well aware of it being suboptimal [15:38] I just don't believe the other one to be a magic wand [15:38] like no multimonitor would be a regression and probalby more visible that the lack of dnd [15:39] According to the ubuntu report data 93% of users have a single screen at install. [15:39] and 96% don't do dnd between their desktop and apps :p [15:40] Citation needed ;-) [15:41] Wimpress, anyway, I'm not against it, just cautious to switch from a known situation (with issues) to an unknown situation which might fix some of the issues but have other feature/stability/performance problems [15:41] good morning everyone! [15:41] o/ [15:41] hey Heather! [15:41] how are you? [15:41] hey hellsworth! [15:42] hi o/ [15:42] i'm great thanks! [15:59] good morning hellsworth [15:59] hey oSoMoN how are things? [16:01] pretty good, week-end is approaching fast [16:02] it sure is [17:50] have a good week-end everyone, tty on Monday [17:51] you too! [22:41] just noticed something weird on an upgrade from eoan -> focal: gnome-terminal no longer recognizes fonts from the xfonts-terminus package. Looking at the package versions, though, gnome-terminal in eoan-updates matches what's in focal. Same story for xfonts-terminus. Those fonts still work in other applications, too (like xterm, xfontsel, etc.) [22:41] I'd file a bug, but have no idea which project is the culprit :-/ [22:42] maybe some sort of font-related bug elsewhere in gnome? [22:46] try something else gnomeish to test; I think gnome-terminal is going to use pango or libcairo (or both?) in the process of rendering fonts, but xfontsel and xterm will probably use other mechanisms to render fonts