[07:08] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:11] <ricotz> hey desktopers
[07:11] <ricotz> hey oSoMoN
[07:12] <oSoMoN> good morning ricotz
[07:17] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN and ricotz
[07:18] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[08:23] <seb128> gooood morning desktopers
[08:23] <duflu> Morning seb128
[08:24] <seb128> hey duflu, happy friday! how are you? had a good day? ready for the w.e? ;)
[08:25] <duflu> seb128, I'm tired but have achieved the fixes I wanted to for the week, so now from 4:25pm everything else is a bonus. How are you?
[08:25] <seb128> I'm good, a bit tired but it's friday so it's fine
[08:26] <seb128> also going to the co-working space in a bit, going to be nice to see some people :-)
[09:02] <Laney> hey!
[09:04] <seb128> happy friday Laney!
[09:05] <duflu> Morning Laney
[09:06] <marcustomlinson> morning oSoMoN ricotz duflu seb128 Laney
[09:07] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson
[09:41] <Laney> sry got insta distracted with cd building
[09:42] <Laney> guten morgen one and all!
[10:12] <dan101> hi
[10:12] <dan101> Any news on the ongoing nvidia-wayland conflict or egl vs gbm ?
[10:18] <duflu> dan101, I am not aware of any news, but also this is probably the wrong place to ask for the latest.
[10:19] <dan101> duflu: sure, where should I ask?
[10:19] <duflu> dan101, maybe #gnome-shell on GimpNet?
[10:19]  * duflu prepares for the weekend
[10:19] <dan101> oh
[10:20] <duflu> Night all
[10:26] <Wimpress> Morning o/
[10:27] <seb128> Wimpress, good morning, how are you? recovering from the hackfest?
[10:29] <Wimpress> Last day of the hackfest for us.
[10:29] <Wimpress> Sadly, the Taru team have left us :-(
[10:29] <Wimpress> We're working on a blog post to summarise what we worked on this week
[10:31] <seb128> woooot
[10:33] <Laney> moin Wimpress
[10:33] <Laney> didrocks still there or on the train already?
[10:34] <Wimpress> Didier is in train hell already.
[10:34] <Wimpress> His trains have been cancelled at least 3 times this week.
[10:34] <Wimpress> He need to leave early to get a different train because there is only one connection option in France now.
[10:35] <Laney> :(
[10:42] <didrocks> hey Laney! I'm on the train, approximately near Lille
[10:42] <didrocks> Laney: I changed my first train which was cancelled (and planned later in the day)
[10:43] <didrocks> ironnically, I received a text message yesterday evening telling me that the new Eurostar I was supposed to take would leave on time, but arrive 90 minutes late in Paris
[10:43] <didrocks> which would have make me miss my connexion to Paris -> Lyon
[10:43] <didrocks> so, I was with atpi, so that they change my Eurostar, keeping the TGV one (I'll have one more hour in Paris to wait)
[10:44] <didrocks> and of course, the Eurostar I just took was delayed as well, but planned for 20 minutes delay which transformed in leaving only 9 minutes late, so ok ;)
[10:46] <didrocks> hey Laney! I'm on the train, approximately near Lille
[10:46] <didrocks> Laney: I changed my first train which was cancelled (and planned later in the day)
[10:46] <didrocks> ironnically, I received a text message yesterday evening telling me that the new Eurostar I was supposed to take would leave on time, but arrive 90 minutes late in Paris
[10:46] <didrocks> which would have make me miss my connexion to Paris -> Lyon
[10:46] <didrocks> so, I was with atpi, so that they change my Eurostar, keeping the TGV one (I'll have one more hour in Paris to wait)
[10:46] <didrocks> and of course, the Eurostar I just took was delayed as well, but planned for 20 minutes delay which transformed in leaving only 9 minutes late, so ok ;)
[10:46] <Laney> it worked the first time :P
[10:46] <Laney> hey didrocks
[10:46] <didrocks> oh, I was lagging and then disconnected
[10:46] <didrocks> weechat was lying to me :)
[10:47] <Laney> sounds a bit stressful, but good that you found a nice option in the end
[10:47] <Laney> hope the week was worth the travel pain]
[11:59] <seb128> does anyone know if "Architecture: [!i386]" in debian/control works/if there is a way to do that?
[12:00] <seb128> ignore that
[12:38] <popey> seb128: <3. Thanks for updating thunderbird!
[12:38] <seb128> popey, np!
[13:58] <didrocks> hey from my train in Paris!
[14:02] <seb128> hey didrocks, glad to see that the trip is going well at the end
[15:23] <Wimpress> seb128 Laney didrocks Just tested this extension - https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/2087/desktop-icons-ng-ding/
[15:23] <Wimpress> It is an new verion of the desktop icons we ship.
[15:24] <Wimpress> But, drag and drag to/from the desktop is working well :-)
[15:24] <seb128> Wimpress, why a fork rather than contribute to the existing one?
[15:24] <Wimpress> It is from the same author as the original.
[15:24] <Wimpress> I don't know why he has created a fork.
[15:25] <popey> I just tested it, and it works very much like nautilus did in the past
[15:25] <popey> i.e. worked well
[15:27] <Laney> It works quite differently, so he developed it separately to be able to make invasive changes
[15:29] <didrocks> interesting
[15:29] <Wimpress> We've just run through some basic mpt guided testing.
[15:29] <Wimpress> Very encouraging.
[15:34] <didrocks> ah, it's some kind of a hack, with a whole different concept
[15:34] <didrocks> (it's a gtk application scaled and placed on the desktop)
[15:34] <didrocks> wondering how it works for multiple monitors
[15:35] <Wimpress> That seems to be a limitation accordingly to comments on the extensions page.
[15:35] <seb128> :-/
[15:35] <seb128> no good solution!
[15:35] <Wimpress> Well, could we not assist with that?
[15:36] <seb128> perhaps, no idea how much work that is
[15:36] <Laney> now?
[15:36] <seb128> we would need someone who understand what needs to be done to time budget
[15:36] <seb128> and trade for other work probably
[15:36] <seb128> since we are already over budget
[15:36] <Wimpress> Indeed.
[15:37] <seb128> you are the boss, so if you want to descope other work in favor of that...
[15:37] <seb128> step one would be to get someone to estimate the work
[15:37] <Wimpress> If you remember the incomplete desktop icons implementation was highlighted when we were at the last sprint.
[15:37] <Wimpress> We could choose to drop the current implemenation entirely.
[15:37] <seb128> yes, I'm well aware of it being suboptimal
[15:38] <seb128> I just don't believe the other one to be a magic wand
[15:38] <seb128> like no multimonitor would be a regression and probalby more visible that the lack of dnd
[15:39] <Wimpress> According to the ubuntu report data 93% of users have a single screen at install.
[15:39] <seb128> and 96% don't do dnd between their desktop and apps :p
[15:40] <Wimpress> Citation needed ;-)
[15:41] <seb128> Wimpress, anyway, I'm not against it, just cautious to switch from a known situation (with issues) to an unknown situation which might fix some of the issues but have other feature/stability/performance problems
[15:41] <hellsworth> good morning everyone!
[15:41] <Wimpress> o/
[15:41] <seb128> hey Heather!
[15:41] <seb128> how are you?
[15:41] <didrocks> hey hellsworth!
[15:42] <hellsworth> hi o/
[15:42] <hellsworth> i'm great thanks!
[15:59] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth
[15:59] <hellsworth> hey oSoMoN how are things?
[16:01] <oSoMoN> pretty good, week-end is approaching fast
[16:02] <hellsworth> it sure is
[17:50] <oSoMoN> have a good week-end everyone, tty on Monday
[17:51] <hellsworth> you too!
[22:41] <davidkrauser> just noticed something weird on an upgrade from eoan -> focal: gnome-terminal no longer recognizes fonts from the xfonts-terminus package. Looking at the package versions, though, gnome-terminal in eoan-updates matches what's in focal. Same story for xfonts-terminus. Those fonts still work in other applications, too (like xterm, xfontsel, etc.)
[22:41] <davidkrauser> I'd file a bug, but have no idea which project is the culprit :-/
[22:42] <davidkrauser> maybe some sort of font-related bug elsewhere in gnome?
[22:46] <sarnold> try something else gnomeish to test; I think gnome-terminal is going to use pango or libcairo (or both?) in the process of rendering fonts, but xfontsel and xterm will probably use other mechanisms to render fonts