[01:45] <Matteo78> Linux e una meraviglia
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[06:30] <xubuntu15w> Hello
[06:31] <lighterowl> hi
[06:31] <xubuntu15w> My name is Mike from Singapore, I am look for Xubuntu 18.10 64 bit arm version from your website, but I can't find any?
[06:32] <xubuntu15w> Can I do an upgrade from 18.04 to 18.10 version?
[06:33] <xubuntu15w> You go an official link to down from? I just need it to install on my Raspberry Pi 3 B+.
[06:35] <xubuntu15w> Possible to help on this? Thank you a lot.
[06:48] <st-gourichon-fid> xubuntu15w, if I wished to run xubuntu on a Pi, and would not find dedicated images, then I would install https://ubuntu.com/download/server/arm then replace ubuntu-desktop package with xubuntu-desktop.
[06:48] <st-gourichon-fid> Oh, better URL https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi
[06:49] <well_laid_lawn> !info xubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <lighterowl> xubuntu15w: and yes, you can do an upgrade from 18.04 to 18.10.
[06:49] <ubottu> xubuntu-desktop (source: xubuntu-meta): Xubuntu desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.225 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 29 kB
[06:50] <st-gourichon-fid> xubuntu15w,  That said, xfce is also included in Debian IIRC, so the default Raspbian image can run XFCE, too.
[07:13] <JackFrost> You can indeed install Xfce in Debian, we try to share as much packaging as possible.  Granted, you won't have the Xubuntu configuration and theming, but one can...Fix that.
[07:16] <xubuntu15w> lighterowl: Thank you for your information.
[07:21] <xubuntu15w> I working on Edgex Foundry project on Raspberry Pi (https://www.edgexfoundry.org/devkits/community-devkit/#hardware), It mention to use the USB_installer on the USB drive to install xubuntu on the SD card, but I can't event boot from the USB drive using the zip file provided.
[07:23] <xubuntu15w> I got Initramfs unpacking failed: write error on the screen, follow by kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory...
[12:09] <st-gourichon-fid> Regarding the issue I raised yesterday evening, it looks like the preference labelled "Enable multimedia keys for playback control" controls the option.
[12:11] <st-gourichon-fid> https://docs.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin#media_player_control
[12:22] <lighterowl> yes, I had a feeling there was a reason why I didn't have that plugin enabled.
[12:23] <JackFrost> Oh?
[12:25] <lighterowl> i.e. I probably had the same issue once upon a time.
[12:26] <JackFrost> Anywho, your options are xfce4-voumed+volumeicon/indicator-sound or xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin for that type of thing.
[12:34] <st-gourichon-fid> JackFrost, I can just disable the "Enable multimedia keys for playback control". But that's still a workaround.
[12:34] <st-gourichon-fid> What is the core of the bug? A violation of the Principle of Least Surprise ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment ) because xfce4-keyboard-settings allows to define shortcut but they don't actually work.
[12:34] <st-gourichon-fid> Suggested behavior: when "Enable multimedia keys for playback control" is active, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin would handle the shortcut then pass it on so that xfsettingsd can see if there is an additional user-defined shortcut and run it.
[12:38] <st-gourichon-fid> Created bug https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16363
[12:38] <ubottu> bugzilla.xfce.org bug 16363 in General "Breaks key shortcuts involving media keys" [Normal,New]
[12:55] <st-gourichon-fid> Thanks again for those who helped understand what happens yesterday evening.
[13:00] <st-gourichon-fid> Another behavior would be "warn the user that enabling media keys would prevent user-defined key shortcuts", but such situation is the *default settings* so I don't feel like warning the user when they open xfce the first time would be good.
[13:00] <st-gourichon-fid> Better let all user-level key shortcuts work at all times, whether xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin handles media keys or not.+
[13:10] <brainwash> st-gourichon-fid: probably best to provide a patch if you are able to
[13:10] <brainwash> could be that xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin is not actively maintained anymore
[13:13] <JackFrost> Perhaps not the most maintained, but it's certainly not unmaintained.
[13:14] <brainwash> last changes are from early 2018
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[16:21] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Hello!
[16:21] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Could someone kindly help me install a password manager, namely Enpass?
[16:31] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Could someone kindly help me install a password manager, namely Enpass? I have all the information, I am just a bit stuck.
[16:39] <rabbit-in-the-ti> rabbit-in-the-ti:7suzani1FN
[16:41] <brainwash> rabbit-in-the-ti: how is xubuntu involved in this?
[16:45] <tomreyn> rabbit-in-the-ti: you'll also want to replace this password now that you posted it here.
[16:50] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Thanks! Do I do that via freenode?
[16:51] <rabbit-in-the-ti> SETPASS?
[16:52] <rabbit-in-the-ti> SETPASS rabbit-in-the-ti
[16:53] <st-gourichon-fid> brainwash, I'm willing to write a patch for xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin , it's just that I don't know how to "pass through" a keyboard event that we received.  Anyone has a hint?
[16:54] <st-gourichon-fid> For all the rest I should be okay.
[16:54] <brainwash> st-gourichon-fid: sadly, I got no hints
[16:55] <brainwash> never touched that code before
[16:55] <tomreyn> rabbit-in-the-ti: type    /join #freenode    to get help with irc. and use the "server" tab (if you have that) to enter commands, try not to enter those on this channel window.
[18:21] <sm0rux> GE, everyone! Is there a way to access the exit meny in the Wisker Menu directly, without going via the Whisker Menu? https://allg.one/d0L7
[18:39] <brainwash> sm0rux: the whisker settings will tell you which command that is
[18:43] <sm0rux> brainwash: I've tried to find it, but no success so far.
[18:44] <brainwash> sm0rux: https://i.imgur.com/xEOkRHC.png
[18:45] <sm0rux> Thanks a zillion!
[18:46] <brainwash> :)