| === matthew_ is now known as Guest96676 | ||
| === Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life | ||
| === davidb is now known as glick | ||
| glick | hi | 03:12 |
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| glick | how can i get the snap version of lmms? | 03:12 |
| glick | its newer than the repo one but in the kubuntu discover app i cant find it | 03:12 |
| glick | i cant find the snap version | 03:12 |
| glick | what is the official ubuntu flathub? | 03:18 |
| glick | why do I get "Aborted due to failure" when i try to install lmms flatpak? | 03:31 |
| glick | through discover? | 03:31 |
| glick | now i cant even remove the 'flathub' source from discover | 03:51 |
| glick | just another failure message with no clues given | 03:51 |
| glick | love that! | 03:52 |
| === davidb is now known as glick | ||
| glick | hi | 03:56 |
| glick | is anyone here? | 03:56 |
| lethu | glick, sudo flatpak remote-delete | 04:17 |
| lethu | glick, add the source to the command | 04:18 |
| === jaafar_ is now known as jaafar | ||
| IrcsomeBot1 | Jason was added by: Jason | 04:36 |
| glick | hey how come when i try to select an image with startup disk creator it doesnt open the iso image | 05:31 |
| Alabalistic | what kind of iso do you have win, or Linux | 05:35 |
| glick | im on linux and i have a linux image iso | 05:35 |
| Alabalistic | I had similar problem with some VM installer, when my iso was outside my home dir | 05:36 |
| glick | its in my downloads directory | 05:37 |
| Alabalistic | do you wanna use dd | 05:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Hey sorry if that's a dumb question but does kubuntu support uefi? | 12:46 |
| diogenes_ | yes | 12:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Because I wanted to change to uefi and afaik I need to reformat my hard-drive? | 12:48 |
| diogenes_ | yes to GPT | 12:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Ahh yeah is there a way to do it in Linux? Or would I need an CD or something | 12:49 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Because I wanted to dual boot windows and linux | 12:49 |
| jpjacobs | I can only recommend to take a good backup. Last time I installed windows, on a different physical disk than my previously installed kubuntu, it managed to wipe the entire disk (home partition included). | 12:51 |
| diogenes_ | first install windows in UEFI then linux. | 12:51 |
| jpjacobs | As it was an SSD, there was no way of recovering anything (and admittedly, my backup wasn't as complete as I would have liked). | 12:52 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Jpjacobs well reformatting normally wipes your hard drive lol | 12:52 |
| jpjacobs | IrcsomeBot: I didn't, I told it to install on a *different drive* | 12:52 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Meh I just need to save some text files that's all xD this computer is almost dead anyways | 12:52 |
| jpjacobs | yet it managed somehow to nuke the other | 12:52 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I only have one hard-drive xD | 12:52 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> But how do I actually reformat it? | 12:53 |
| jpjacobs | you just do so while installing windows. | 12:54 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> That's the thing it doesn't work | 12:55 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> It just says the hard drive ain't compatible | 12:55 |
| jpjacobs | in that case, boot a live cd session, use the disk management tool to make a new partition table (GPT) (after backup of anything you'd might want to keep) | 12:56 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Yeah I'm backing up right now and actually I don't have a CD rn | 12:56 |
| jpjacobs | so get a disk image, and put it on a usb stick | 12:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I don't have a USB stick xD | 12:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Does a kubuntu image work? | 13:00 |
| jpjacobs | There's even an android app to do that, that works well | 13:00 |
| jpjacobs | image on what then, (if not usb stick or CD)? | 13:00 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I have no empty CD that's what I meant | 13:00 |
| jpjacobs | well, to do any kind of installing without jumping through burning hoops, you'd need at least a USB stick or CD/DVD | 13:01 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I have a kubuntu CD and a windows CD isn't that all I need | 13:02 |
| jpjacobs | ah, so you do have a live cd... | 13:04 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 13:04 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Oh sorry I forgot kubuntu was a livecd oof | 13:05 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Does it take long to reformat it? | 13:06 |
| jpjacobs | it's almost instantly, as it's just the GPT that has to be written, and the rest of the disk does not get wiped | 13:08 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Wait so nothing gets wiped? | 13:08 |
| jpjacobs | unless of course you need to securely wipe it for some reasons... | 13:08 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> But I would need to reinstall kubuntu right? | 13:09 |
| jpjacobs | not immediately. Formatting just means setting the filesystem to assume previously used blocks are now free to be overwritten | 13:09 |
| jpjacobs | installing a new partition table is about the same | 13:10 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> But I need to reinstall kubuntu to have it work with uefi right? | 13:10 |
| jpjacobs | yes, I think so | 13:10 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> OK because I recently discovered my laptop supports uefi lol | 13:10 |
| jpjacobs | at least, that's the easiest and most fool-proof option. | 13:10 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Ok can I somehow wipe the whole hard drive | 13:11 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Because I guess it's easier and then installing windows and Linux instead of deleting every partition | 13:11 |
| jpjacobs | so then, you make a GPT table for the disk, install windows, and resize the windows partition when installing kubuntu | 13:11 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Afaik I can resize it in the windows installer | 13:12 |
| jpjacobs | so wipe as in make sure there's no way to recover, or just starting out with a new partition table and new partitions? | 13:12 |
| jpjacobs | because secure wiping takes time, while creating a new partition table does not. | 13:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Just so it's empty I don't need a secure wipe | 13:12 |
| jpjacobs | so yes, that's easy | 13:13 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Ok | 13:13 |
| jpjacobs | you open partition manager in the live CD session, select the (RIGHT) disk, and press the "new partition table" button | 13:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Hang on I need to find my kubuntu disk first xD | 13:15 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I need to start the disk in uefi mode right? | 13:15 |
| jpjacobs | be sure it's a kubuntu version that's still supported too. Because otherwise you'll have troubles updating after installation. | 13:16 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> It should be 19.10 | 13:16 |
| jpjacobs | I think you'd need to set the correct boot mode in the BIOS (or whatever they call that in the UEFI age): UEFI, no secure boot. | 13:17 |
| jpjacobs | that's fine then | 13:17 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Uhm in my bios it says UEFI: Slimtype DVD bla bla … SATA: Slimtype DVD bla bla | 13:17 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> But it doesn't say anything from secure boot | 13:18 |
| jpjacobs | sure, but there should be somewhere the boot mode (not boot device) | 13:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> OK I will check in a sec | 13:18 |
| jpjacobs | it's independent from the device you boot from, IIRC. | 13:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> What does iirc mean? | 13:19 |
| jpjacobs | if I recall correctly. | 13:20 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Ahh OK thanks | 13:21 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I just found some empty CDs oof let me just burn kubuntu on there I can't find my other CD | 13:23 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> What would be better 19.10 or 18.04? | 13:24 |
| jpjacobs | I'd go for 19.10, unless you require and LTS release (e.g. use in business, ...) | 13:27 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Nah just my home pc | 13:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> OK Will do thanks for helping btw | 13:28 |
| jpjacobs | you're welcome | 13:33 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> OK I don't think I can do this | 13:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Either kubuntu or my CD drive is shitting itself rn | 13:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I'll just check if my other pc has a burner | 13:43 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> OK sorry for the long wait I just got my CD @jpjacobs | 14:03 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I don't see anything about secure boot | 14:06 |
| jpjacobs | ok then | 14:09 |
| jpjacobs | I'd say, give it a try | 14:09 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Ok | 14:09 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Should I boot now in uefi or later? | 14:10 |
| jpjacobs | I don't think it really matters when just reformating the disk | 14:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Ok | 14:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I will just try in uefi | 14:12 |
| jpjacobs | when installing, it does matter I think | 14:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> OK it's starting | 14:13 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> OK im in the livecd now | 14:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> What to do now? | 14:20 |
| jpjacobs | start the partioning tool | 14:22 |
| jpjacobs | windows key, then type partition manager | 14:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I did | 14:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> It shows my hard-drive | 14:22 |
| jpjacobs | great | 14:22 |
| jpjacobs | You did back up what you still need (from the entire drive, all partitions)? | 14:23 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Yea from Linux and windows | 14:23 |
| jpjacobs | and you do intend to reinstall both linux and windows, right? | 14:24 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Correct | 14:24 |
| jpjacobs | great. So press the " new partition table button" in the toolbar | 14:24 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> It's grayed out | 14:24 |
| jpjacobs | that's ... strange | 14:25 |
| jpjacobs | you didn't mount any partition on the drive, nor use any swap partition, right? | 14:25 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Swap partition? | 14:25 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I have a partition that's called Linuxswap | 14:25 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> And there is a lock symbol besides it | 14:26 |
| jpjacobs | that's it | 14:26 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Do I need to click deactivate swap? | 14:27 |
| jpjacobs | open konsole, type sudo swapoff -a | 14:27 |
| jpjacobs | or that, indeed | 14:27 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Ok | 14:27 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Ahh now I can create a partition table | 14:27 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> I need to select gpt right? | 14:27 |
| jpjacobs | then you'll probably be asked what type you want | 14:27 |
| jpjacobs | indeed | 14:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> OK one sec | 14:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> OK I did | 14:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Was that all? | 14:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Oh I need to click apply right? | 14:30 |
| jpjacobs | you'll have to apply the changes | 14:30 |
| jpjacobs | indeed | 14:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> That was so easy | 14:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Thanks mate | 14:30 |
| jpjacobs | I think now you could just give it a try to install windows, and then afterwards resize the windows install to make place for your linux partition(s) | 14:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Yea I will just give windows like 200GB and Linux the rest | 14:31 |
| jpjacobs | if it doesn't work, boot into the live cd again, and create an NTFS partition. | 14:31 |
| jpjacobs | I don't really know the black magic that window's installer does nowadays... | 14:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Windows should it in the setup iirc | 14:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Haha xD | 14:31 |
| jpjacobs | safest to install windows first, and resize to add linux later | 14:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Yeah probably | 14:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Oof the shutdown button doesn't work | 14:33 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> But console did lmao | 14:33 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Thanks again man have a great day | 14:36 |
| jpjacobs | you too | 14:45 |
| === sascha_ is now known as Bolvaron | ||
| Bolvaron | Hey, ive got a problem: i had installed kubuntu to test before i completely switched. now ive got 2 versions on different disks. how can i get rid of one? | 14:51 |
| jpjacobs | Bolvaron: if reinstalling is not a big thing (i.e. you don't want to keep your system) it's easiest to reinstall. Otherwise you can just format the partition of the one you don't need anymore from the version you intend to keep | 14:55 |
| jpjacobs | But I'd take a backup of your data, and double check before pressing ok to avoid mistakes causing data loss | 14:56 |
| Bolvaron | ive reinstalled the system with the option to use the complete disk, but it didnt delete the other installation. If i format this, will it also get out of grub? | 14:56 |
| jpjacobs | strange. can you still boot the other, or did it just stick around in grub? | 14:56 |
| jpjacobs | after formatting, you should use sudo update-grub | 14:57 |
| Bolvaron | i can still boot into the other atm | 14:57 |
| jpjacobs | but are you sure it's a separate install, not just another kernel version?? | 14:57 |
| Bolvaron | so i just use gparted to get rid of the other installation and then update grub? | 14:57 |
| Bolvaron | and yes, its my 2nd installation | 14:57 |
| Bolvaron | absolutely sure | 14:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> Bolvaron boot into the session you want to keep and from a terminal run: mount | grep /sd | 14:58 |
| jpjacobs | I think that should doo the trick | 14:58 |
| Bolvaron | ok ill reboot and report back | 14:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> That will show you the partition names you do not want to delete. Then live boot and remove then merge/extend the other partitions as desired. | 14:59 |
| Bolvaron | ive deleted the 2nd linux now via gparted and updated grub, trying to reboot | 15:00 |
| Bolvaron | will be back soon | 15:00 |
| === sascha_ is now known as Bolvaron | ||
| Bolvaron | ok, seems to have worked | 15:02 |
| Bolvaron | thanks for your help with grub update, didnt know that way | 15:03 |
| === Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life | ||
| IrcsomeBot | Harrycli was added by: Harrycli | 15:27 |
| === jose is now known as Guest12575 | ||
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Hi I somehow minimized the installer can I bring it up again somehow? | 16:32 |
| diogenes_ | FailBacon alt+tab | 16:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Doesn't work | 16:38 |
| === Iamahuman is now known as jukebohi | ||
| === jordan is now known as Guest14362 | ||
| jordan__ | Hey | 17:06 |
| jordan__ | Hey | 17:06 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Harrycli> Cool | 17:06 |
| BluesKaj | hey jordan__ | 17:06 |
| jordan__ | Hey BluesKaj | 17:07 |
| jordan__ | What's up | 17:07 |
| jordan__ | Man | 17:07 |
| BluesKaj | try the windows key, FailBacon, if you get a menu type ubiquity in the search | 17:07 |
| jordan__ | Well what's about kubuntu | 17:08 |
| jordan__ | I recently used it | 17:08 |
| BluesKaj | this is kubuntu support | 17:08 |
| jordan__ | So I'm not sure | 17:08 |
| jordan__ | About services | 17:08 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Nothing worked eventually my machine froze I'm installing it again (without me minimizing it hopefully xD) | 17:09 |
| jordan__ | Hey thing interesting in kubuntu | 17:10 |
| jordan__ | Any thing interesting in kubuntu | 17:10 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> ? | 17:10 |
| Bolvaron | im beginning to love kubuntu, if uplay would work with lutris | 17:11 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, thousands of packages :-) | 17:11 |
| jordan__ | What is lutris | 17:12 |
| Bolvaron | im a gamer and used windows for a long time | 17:12 |
| Bolvaron | its like a helper for wine | 17:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Well im still sticking with shadow on kubuntu lol | 17:13 |
| BluesKaj | https://lutris.net/ | 17:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Is it normal that the installer freezes mid installation | 17:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> But not the PC just the installer | 17:20 |
| BluesKaj | why would that be normal, obviously something is erroring | 17:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> Well maybe there is a part of the installation where it needs to copy or pull so many files that it freezes | 17:23 |
| IrcsomeBot | <FailBacon> So what should I do? | 17:27 |
| RamiousZoriastar | hello | 19:41 |
| RamiousZoriastar | I am running Linux Mint Cinnamon | 19:42 |
| RamiousZoriastar | I am trying to create a bootable usb of Windowsx | 19:42 |
| RamiousZoriastar | But | 19:42 |
| RamiousZoriastar | Its not booting when I restart | 19:42 |
| RamiousZoriastar | I used Woeusb and all of that already | 19:42 |
| RamiousZoriastar | And even direct file copy method | 19:42 |
| Heavyarms- | did you try manually setting your bios to boot from usb? | 19:42 |
| RamiousZoriastar | And ultipul windows iso | 19:42 |
| RamiousZoriastar | Yes | 19:43 |
| RamiousZoriastar | I even manually go into the boot selection menu and pick it | 19:43 |
| RamiousZoriastar | or does it have to be set to usb as number one? | 19:43 |
| Heavyarms- | I believe that is the case, yes | 19:43 |
| RamiousZoriastar | ok. I will brb then. | 19:44 |
| Heavyarms- | for sure | 19:44 |
| mparillo | In Network Manager > Edit Network Connections, for each connection, there is a option on Connect Automatically with Priority option. I assume that way I can prefer some connections to others. Can you point me to any documentation? | 20:26 |
| mparillo | In Network Manager > Edit Network Connections, for each connection, there is a option on Connect Automatically with Priority option. I assume that way I can prefer some connections to others. Can you point me to any documentation? | 20:26 |
| mparillo | In Network Manager > Edit Network Connections, for each connection, there is a option on Connect Automatically with Priority option. I assume that way I can prefer some connections to others. Can you point me to any documentation? | 20:26 |
| mparillo | In Network Manager > Edit Network Connections, for each connection, there is a option on Connect Automatically with Priority option. I assume that way I can prefer some connections to others. Can you point me to any documentation? | 20:26 |
| mparillo | In Network Manager > Edit Network Connections, for each connection, there is a option on Connect Automatically with Priority option. I assume that way I can prefer some connections to others. Can you point me to any documentation? | 20:28 |
| mparillo | Oh, sorry, I did not see my scroll bar was not at the bottom. | 20:28 |
| bprompt | echo echo echo | 20:36 |
| mparillo | Mea culpa | 21:13 |
| kinghat | does kubuntu 18.04 not have kde backports? i added the repo and full-upgrade and it still showed 5.12.9(iirc). | 22:52 |
| valorie | kinghat: not everything can be backported to something so old | 22:54 |
| kinghat | LTS? | 22:55 |
| valorie | support means support | 23:02 |
| valorie | not endless updates | 23:02 |
| valorie | the base doesn't support newest Qt, frameworks, plasma | 23:03 |
| valorie | next LTS will | 23:03 |
| Bolvaron | wow, is this true? Linux uses half the memory that windows uses in the same situation | 23:07 |
| bprompt | Bolvaron: unconfirmed, but doubt it, depends on many factors | 23:08 |
| Bolvaron | without any programs, the OS uses 800 MB RAM, windows fully booted without any programs: 2-3 GB | 23:09 |
| bprompt | does google chrome in *nix use less memory and cpu than google chrome on windows for the same task? no that I can tell | 23:09 |
| bprompt | Bolvaron: yes, but those 2-3gbs may well be cached and buffered content for speedy access, which aren't part of the OS core per se | 23:10 |
| Bolvaron | i can just see the facts, thats all, and when playing game, it uses 2 GB less than windows also | 23:10 |
| bprompt | Bolvaron: I run kubuntu, but I don't use Kwin, loading Kwin, the system uses more ram than using LXQT which is what I run | 23:11 |
| bprompt | so, there are many factors in the process | 23:11 |
| Bolvaron | i run kubuntu, and while gaming im using Lutris cause of WoW | 23:11 |
| bprompt | I do know that, a new kubuntu install is under 10Gbs I think around 7gbs, windows10 is around 12gbs, but that's not ram, just storage | 23:13 |
| Bolvaron | how can i read out how much space the system needs atm? | 23:22 |
| bprompt | Bolvaron: the system needs? | 23:26 |
| bprompt | Bolvaron: you can always check free space with -> df / -lh | 23:27 |
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