[00:00] <newUser20202> sorry... I am Windows guy :)
[00:01]  * guiverc would be using wget @ shell even if I had to use windows...
[00:02] <wxl> and firefox to boot
[00:07] <newUser20202> guiverc then you are genius!!
[00:08] <guiverc> nah, just old - computers didn't have mice, keyboards didn't always have arrow keys...
[00:11] <newUser20202> ohh...nice to chat with the legend. Thank you.. going with running  from 64 bit. Wish me luck!!
[00:12]  * guiverc wishing you great luck :)
[00:12] <newUser20202> :)
 @wxl [<wxl> see this too https://github.com/m-wynn/sddm_wynn-theme/issues/11#issuecomm …], noted, after checking i can't found the entry about inputmethod/qtvirtualkeyboard on my eoan box
[02:50] <wxl> @ctisme perhaps add it then
 but it related to kwin... what about to remove it all
 coz im using openbox instead
[02:50] <wxl> sddm has nothing to do with window managers
 @wxl [<wxl> sddm has nothing to do with window managers], noted
 bad guess
[02:52] <wxl> simple desktop >> display manager <<, not window manager
[02:52] <wxl> read: it's how you login. you'll still need something.
[02:56] <gandsnut> any suggestion how to set lubuntu to boot to command line; to use 'startx' when I want the GUI?
 @wxl> simple desktop > [<wxl> simple desktop >> display manager <<, not window manager], noted
 looks like the /etc/sddm.conf  works after # systemctl restart sddm
 hope next booting will works also without the virtual keyboard … thanks wxl
[03:08] <gandsnut> I tried systemctl set-default multi-user.target but (I think) after signing in, it never got to the desktop
 when install Lubuntu 20.04, it fails on "sfdisk /dev/sda" when i select entire disk option. if i do manual, it says create efi but no option for esp..weird
 and it has no option for "Something Else" partition
 any idea?
[11:12] <guiverc> @janskey - it'll be http://launchpad.net/bugs/1851188 probably; if you erase all partitions it'll install correctly (if it's what I think it is)
[11:14] <guiverc> @janskey sorry I can't help with EFI error; haven't experienced it & I don't know enough to help sorry
[12:07] <tbs> @janskey, if u talk about esp flag, i do partition and flagging with gparted before install
[12:32] <tomreyn> janskey: regarding the partition flag / purpose / "file system", consider "efi" = "esp" (efi system partition)
 @lubuntu_bot i think the iso installer can't create a efi boot partition
 it fails
 what i did was install 18.04 first to create the default partion, then install 20.04
 but using the "replace" partition option
 It is this bug http://launchpad.net/bugs/1851188 for sure. we are waiting for a release/fix from Calamares. Keep in mind 20.04 is still a development release.
[15:00] <QuarxSiO2> hey
[23:29] <antonior> facebook
[23:37] <wxl> too bad they left. i was going to say "no, thank you"
[23:38] <kc2bez> XD I was just thinking the same thing!
[23:38] <sweb> where is lubuntu preinstall for raspery pi it's not update since 16.04
[23:39] <wxl> that's all there is
[23:39] <wxl> otherwise, just use the ubuntu (server) images for pi and install lubuntu-desktop
[23:39] <sweb> i also install ubuntu-server 20.04 and install lubuntu-desktop and it's install GNOME
[23:40] <sweb> WTH ?
[23:40] <guiverc> sweb, Sean Davis provided a blog post for Xubuntu on pi 4; it could be used as guide to install lubuntu instead - https://bluesabre.org/2019/10/20/install-xubuntu-19-10-on-a-raspberry-pi-4/
[23:40] <wxl> what gnome packages were installed? that's more or less impossible.
[23:40] <wxl> at least as it related to the desktop environment
[23:42] <guiverc> fyi: I'll grab latest daily & re-test 20.04
[23:42] <sweb> I download http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-preinstalled/current/
[23:42] <sweb> focal-preinstalled-server-arm64+raspi3.img.xz
[23:43] <sweb> it's okey then accourding to manual : https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi
[23:43] <sweb> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[23:43] <sweb> after install about 1.5K packages gnome install not lubuntu
[23:44] <wxl> WHICH packages?
 That is strange. I followed that method for 19.10 and it worked. I haven't tried 20.04 yet however.
 It should be noted that 20.04 or codename focal is still in development and hasn't officially been released.
[23:47] <sweb> wxl: no package just, apt-get install lubuntu-desktop ....
[23:47]  * wxl facepalms
[23:47] <wxl> sweb: which gnome packages are installed as a result of that or would be?
[23:48] <sweb> so if i install ubuntu-server 19.10 will be okey ? then install apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[23:48]  * wxl gets tired of talking to himself
[23:51] <sweb> wxl: i really don't know about the huge list of packages ... but after install and reboot pi Login is Ubuntu Gnome and there is no select Desktop Option during login, After login Gnome Dekstop appear and Default terminal is QTerminal
 sweb after installing lubuntu-desktop you should have Lubuntu with LXQt when you reboot.
[23:52] <guiverc> sweb maybe a `dpkg -l |grep gnome | pastebinit` would be helpful
[23:55] <sweb> why during installation terminal confirmation ask me about display manager and suggest gdm and it's default selection?
[23:55] <sweb> according to https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/lubuntu-desktop ... sddm is requirement and gdm is not listed
[23:55] <sweb> i think this is the problem
[23:56] <wxl> good question. it shouldn't. why did you select gdm??? X'D
[23:56]  * guiverc confirms daily boots to LXQt  (2020-01-12)
[23:56] <wxl> it might be specific to pi but good idea
[23:58] <sweb> wxl: i donno about that, ur right, thanks for guide bwt