[14:45] <medard> Hello. Is ubuntu snappy viable alternative to redhat coreos?
[15:11] <medard> how do I install it? I could only find some .img files that I can't mount
[16:08] <ogra> medard, https://ubuntu.com/download/iot
[16:08] <medard> ogra, this is ubuntu server. Is it the same thing as snappy core?
[16:09] <ogra> (scroll to "Ubuntu Core" at the bottom)
[16:09] <ogra> snappy core never actually existed ... that was an interim name for Ubuntu Core
[16:10] <medard> ogra, do I need that ubuntu SSO?
[16:10] <ogra> if you want to log in :)
[16:11] <ogra> (it uses the ssh key stored for the SSO account to set up key based login for the admin account)
[17:32] <medard> ogra, im unable to import ssh key...
[17:32] <medard> pretty sure it's openssh v2
[17:32] <medard> i used  ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096
[19:23] <sdhd-sascha> hey, medard, it's many years ago, i tested coreos. At this time it was independent from redhat. What are you looking for? What should an OS-image do for your needs ?
[19:24] <medard> sdhd-sascha, im tinkering a little with container OSes. My goal is to run home server not on hypervisor but on something like coreos
[19:32] <sdhd-sascha> me, too :-) I wonder, if gentoo the best - or why `rpm-packages`... And so on...
[19:32] <sdhd-sascha> For me is `apparmor` security a little bit more readable. And all debian-based distro are more and more customable. For my opinion if i install CentOs, then everthing comes with them.
[19:33] <sdhd-sascha> I mean, i can't stop centos to install packages. with deb i can.
[19:34] <sdhd-sascha> medard: what do you want to examine or learn? The OS or some software?
[19:34] <medard> sdhd-sascha, the OS
[19:37] <sdhd-sascha> medard: in the past, i'm looking for something to create a cloud at home. So i'm looking around, to find something which is lightweight enough for my budget? Is this the same searching ? Or did you have another picture in your mind ?
[19:38] <medard> Well, at work I work with coreos and I started thinking that maybe containers are better way to manage my applications at home, than separate virtual machines
[19:40] <sdhd-sascha> Oh, it still depends. High security system - or e.g. database and software
[19:41] <sdhd-sascha> Normal software you can always run in containers ;-)
[19:42] <medard> sdhd-sascha, I know. I'm just looking for a proper (most minimal) underlying operating system
[19:44] <sdhd-sascha> Again, it depends. But if you say the people what you need. I have learned, they listen ;-)
[19:46] <sdhd-sascha> I'm here, because i'm a ubuntu fan. And i know, they listen
[19:46] <sdhd-sascha> medard: did you use kubernetes ?
[19:46] <medard> sdhd-sascha, yes, i did
[19:47] <sdhd-sascha> :-)
[19:48] <sdhd-sascha> I love the idea of k8s more then VMs
[19:49] <sdhd-sascha> I started some years ago to learn it, but didn't have the support to be good ...
[19:53] <sdhd-sascha> medard: Did you ever seen juju ui ? It's like apache nifi - but for cloud machine relations : https://jaas.ai/
[19:53] <medard> thanks mate
[19:54] <sdhd-sascha> gladly
[20:33] <sdhd-sascha> hey, chipaca - what language did you use for graph alagorithm ? i love ocaml/fsharp ? but didn't have time... what should i learn ? did you know that f# has units, if you want ? e.g. pound or kilo ... and can convert it, if you like ?