[03:08] <sweb> wxl: sddm not start , just lightdm work
[03:18] <wxl> sweb do over but install lubuntu-desktp and sddm at the same time
[03:18] <wxl> you shouldn't have lightdm at all
[03:19] <sweb> wxl: it's install, dpkg-reconfigure sddm , reboot not apply no error nither in syslog
[03:20] <wxl> ^ did you end up testing on amd64 guiverc
[03:20] <wxl> ?
[03:21] <sweb> guiverc ? ppa ? add repo ?
[03:22] <wxl> he was going to see if he could confirm your experience; previously we had confirmed it works fine if you `sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop` or `sudo apt install ^lubuntu-desktop sddm`
[03:22] <guiverc> no issues on amd64  daily
[03:23] <wxl> so that means you've somehow done something different, sweb
[03:23] <guiverc> my prior confirmation daily boots to LXQt, general 'live' play & everything was as expected
[03:24] <wxl> was it clear we meant mini/netboot -> install metapackage?
[03:24] <sweb> it's arm64 raspberry pi 4 4G
[03:24] <sweb> also on 2G
[03:24] <sweb> not amd64
[03:24] <wxl> OH
[03:24] <wxl> one difference
[03:24] <wxl> you installed server
[03:25] <sweb> yeah i install servers
[03:25] <sweb> server version as i mention before
[03:25] <wxl> nevermind, that is what we tested
[03:26] <sweb> one important i need mini version of preinstall not server i could not find image for that
[03:27] <wxl> right, no nevermind that you were right with server
[03:29] <sweb> so i thinks that's but, also huge list of dependecy for lubuntu ... why ever need to install gdm during installation
[03:29] <sweb> ?
[03:30] <kc2bez> unless there is something has changed from 19.10 to 20.04 it shouldn't install gdm
[03:31] <sweb> try it ... it's will
[03:32] <wxl> you shouldn't
[03:32] <wxl> it in fact explicitly requests sddm instead
[03:32] <sweb> 19.10 also install gdm3
[03:33] <wxl> install aptitute and run `aptitude why gdm3`
[03:33] <wxl> pastebin the results
[03:36] <sweb> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hqFMMztrMt/
[03:38] <sweb> it's already there https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/lubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <sweb> how could possible ? 0_o
[03:41] <sweb> lubuntu depend entire gnome, right ? so gdm3 install and the default display manager so maybe sddm not configure well and so on...
[03:41] <wxl> no
[03:41] <kc2bez> Lubuntu does not depend on Gnome
[03:42] <wxl> tight
[03:42] <wxl> right i mean
[03:42] <wxl> but network-manager-gnome requires gnome-shell??????
[03:43] <sweb> seems be
[03:43] <wxl> it didn't used to
[03:43] <sweb> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/network-manager-gnome
[03:44] <sweb> could i expect to solve this problem solved soon ?
[03:45] <wxl> maybe
[03:45] <wxl> i don't understand because we tested this before
[03:45] <wxl> @kc2bez: something is very weird here. how did it work for you?
[03:45] <wxl> and how do we not have gnome-shell installed???
[03:45] <kc2bez> I will test it again tomorrow.
[03:46] <kc2bez> I didn't have gnome-shell
[03:46] <wxl> i'm on a daily 20.10 and there's network-manager-gnome, but no gnome-shell
[03:46] <kc2bez> it worked well for me.
[03:47] <kc2bez> I only tested 19.10 though
[03:48] <sweb> thanks guys for telling me ... i install about 5 time different image on my raspberry tonight and i'm going to die to what's my mistake
[03:49] <wxl> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/410773007/network-manager-applet_1.8.18-2ubuntu3_1.8.18-2ubuntu4.diff.gz
[03:49] <sweb> kc2bez: https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/lubuntu-desktop it's also as recommends on  https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/network-manager-gnome so withount no remocend install it's will install
[03:49] <wxl> upstream screwed us :/
[03:49] <sweb> accourding this page : https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi
[03:50] <sweb> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop will install entire gnome-shell
[03:51] <sweb> i thinks that's dependecy bug for eoen and focal
[03:51] <kc2bez> I still have my pi with Lubuntu on it. I will report back tomorrow.
[03:52] <sweb> thanks i have to go, thanks btw
[03:53] <wxl> i'm still confused by this
[03:54] <kc2bez> I am a little too
[03:54] <kc2bez> I am not on front of my pi right now though.
[03:55] <wxl> maybe a timing thing
[03:55] <wxl> seems it's gnome-shell | policykit-1-gnome | polkit-1-auth-agent
[03:55] <wxl> the latter is a virtual package including lxqt-policykit
[03:56] <wxl> and, curiously, policykit-1-gnome
[03:59] <wxl> jbicha's patches 1.8.10-2ubuntu{3,4} seem to be the problems; we released 1.20.4-2ubuntu2
[04:01] <kc2bez> We have Gnome-shell blacklisted in rSeed https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/seed/browse/focal/blacklist$10
[04:01] <kc2bez> might be why it doesn't show in our daily.
[04:02] <wxl> ahhhhh
[04:02] <wxl> i wonder if doing the task DOES make a difference
[04:03] <kc2bez> I will test both.
[04:03] <wxl> i'd first try installing `lubuntu-desktop` to confirm the activity, then `^lubuntu-desktop` and if both of those fail, `lubuntu-desktop sddm` and `^lubuntu-desktop sddm` in focal and eoan
[04:04] <kc2bez> will do. I will report back to you.
[04:05] <wxl> thanks
[05:06] <guiverc> if of value; these are the gnome packages in daily (2020-01-12) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XTjsdyRB3z/  gnome-accessibility-themes  gnome-icon-theme  gnome-keyring  gnome-keyring-pkcs11:amd64   gnome-themes-extra:amd64  gnome-themes-extra-data  libpam-gnome-keyring:amd64   libsoup-gnome2.4-1:amd64  network-manager-gnome  pinentry-gnome3