[05:37] <duflu> RAOF, does "unapproved" mean waiting on a human? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=
[05:37] <RAOF> Yes
[05:37] <duflu> Hmm, Seb said it was done
[05:37] <duflu> RAOF, what level of human? :)
[05:38] <RAOF> An SRU team member.
[05:38] <duflu> Righteo, I'll just add a note in my status report
[06:21] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:21] <oSoMoN> and happy Monday!
[06:24] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[06:26] <jibel> hi everyone
[06:30] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[06:30] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[06:37] <jibel> Salut oSoMoN, bon week end?
[06:43] <duflu> Hi jibel
[08:10] <didrocks> good morning
[08:11] <duflu> Hi didrocks
[08:12] <didrocks> hey duflu!
[08:18] <seb128> gooood morning desktopers!
[08:21] <didrocks> salut seb128
[08:22] <seb128> lut didrocks, en forme ? bien rentré ? bon w.e ?
[08:23] <didrocks>  bien rentré, oui. Cela faisait du bien d’être en week-end. Et toi ?
[08:24] <duflu> Morning seb128
[08:24] <seb128> didrocks, bon w.e tranquille :)
[08:24] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[08:25] <seb128> didrocks, new azerty layout? do you know what changed compared to the current one? is that something you consider making default for french?
[08:26] <didrocks> seb128: I think it's a little too drastic to change the default for us
[08:26] <didrocks> https://norme-azerty.fr/ is a good summary of what changed
[08:26] <seb128> k, I've no idea what it changed/where it comes from
[08:26] <seb128> thx
[08:26] <didrocks> I bought one this week-end
[08:26] <didrocks> as the other keyboard is dead
[08:26] <didrocks> learning to type… Hard to change your habits
[08:26] <seb128> is that a new 'official' layout?
[08:27] <clobrano> good morning all 0/
[08:27] <didrocks> it's the only official one
[08:27] <didrocks> none were official before
[08:27] <seb128> I know the government was working on a new standard layout updated
[08:27] <didrocks> this is the only norm
[08:27] <didrocks> hey clobrano!
[08:27] <seb128> k, probably the ongoing work I read about a year ago
[08:27] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, this is the result
[08:27] <clobrano> hey didrocks! How are you?
[08:27] <didrocks> clobrano: good, thanks! How was your flight back?
[08:28] <seb128> cool, I didn't see any news about them having it 'done', thx for the website
[08:28] <didrocks> seb128: normalized in April 2019
[08:28] <didrocks> me neither
[08:28] <seb128> hey clobrano, how are you?
[08:28] <didrocks> until I went on LDLC to buy a new keyboard
[08:28] <didrocks> and saw that option…
[08:28] <clobrano> didrocks, very relaxing
[08:28] <clobrano> hey seb128, good, yourself?
[08:29] <duflu> Oh. No chat notification...
[08:29] <seb128> didrocks, they have a key for … :-)
[08:29] <duflu> Yes, good thanks seb128
[08:29] <didrocks> seb128: YES …
[08:29] <seb128> didrocks, that alone makes it worth!
[08:29] <seb128> :)
[08:29] <didrocks> exactly!
[08:29] <didrocks> TBH. it seems the special keys makes more sense
[08:30] <didrocks> just have to get used to it
[08:30] <seb128> clobrano, I'm good thanks
[08:30] <didrocks> even { and } are a little bit more accessible
[08:30] <didrocks> and yeah. you don't have to press shift to get a .
[08:30] <seb128> didrocks, yeah, easy access to « » … æ œ etc
[08:30] <didrocks> right
[08:31] <seb128> I like it
[08:31] <didrocks> ê is a little bit hard though. far away
[08:31] <didrocks> but overall. from this 15 minutes typing (you are challenging me), it looks good :p
[08:31] <seb128> but yeah, not matching what is printed on most keyboard is a problem so not easy to change the default
[08:31] <didrocks> just that we can't default to it as nobody has such a keyboard and the glyphs won't match
[08:32] <seb128> exactly
[08:32] <didrocks> :)
[08:32] <seb128> anyway, I learnt something, thx :)
[08:32] <didrocks> yw!
[08:45] <marcustomlinson> morning seb128 didrocks clobrano and duflu
[08:45] <marcustomlinson> how is everyone today?
[08:46] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson! I'm good, how are you? had a good w.e?
[08:46] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson, good, and you?
[08:47] <marcustomlinson> yeah pretty decent thanks, finally finished all the IKEA for the new baby room :) Also drove to down to the border so that I could put one foot in Scotland and one in England
[08:50] <seb128> :-)
[08:51] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson
[09:01] <Laney> morning
[09:10] <didrocks> Laney: hey!
[09:14] <duflu> Hi Laney
[09:20] <Laney> hey didrocks and duflu, happy monday to you
[09:20] <duflu> Bon Montag Laney
[09:22] <seb128> hey Laney! how are you? had a great w.e?
[09:28] <marcustomlinson> yo Laney
[09:30] <Wimpress> Morning desktopppers
[09:31] <Wimpress> Oooh. 3 p's. Bonus.
[09:31] <Laney> hey duflu seb128 marcustomlinson Wimpress
[09:31] <Laney> seb128: yeah, nice and relaxing thanks, you?
[09:31] <marcustomlinson> morning Wimpppress
[09:32] <Wimpress> Lulz :-ppp
[09:33] <Laney> pppick up a penguin
[09:34] <duflu> Morning Wimpress
[09:34] <seb128> hey Wimpress
[09:34] <seb128> Laney, similar, we mostly stayed inside it did a bit of work in the appartement, just went outside for a walk yesterday
[09:36] <Wimpress> I gave the kitchen a spring clean. SLowly working round the rooms :-)
[09:36] <oSoMoN> hey didrocks, seb128, marcustomlinson, Laney, Wimpress
[09:36] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme ? bon w.e?
[09:36] <oSoMoN> ça va, et toi?
[09:37] <oSoMoN> jibel, sorry I missed your message earlier, I was caught in the morning rush to get the girls ready for school… I had a good week-end, and you?
[09:40] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN. Wimpress
[09:41] <seb128> oSoMoN, that va bien :)
[09:41] <marcustomlinson> morning oSoMoN
[09:45] <oSoMoN> cosmic was such a cool release that people are still using it and reporting bugs against it…
[09:53] <oSoMoN> I dist-upgraded to focal yesterday, and all went well except that my desktop wallpaper was lost on the way, it's now plain black. I think this happened during the actual upgrade, before rebooting. Where shall I file a bug?
[09:57] <seb128> what kind of wallpaper did you use? image? from what source/package, is that still available?
[09:57] <seb128> get org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri
[09:58] <Wimpress> I upgraded with `update-manager` last week, didn't encounter that. I am using the default wallpaper however.
[10:18] <oSoMoN> osomon@bribon:~$ gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri
[10:18] <oSoMoN> 'file:///usr/share/backgrounds/Crocus_Wallpaper_by_Roy_Tanck.jpg'
[10:18] <oSoMoN> osomon@bribon:~$ LANG=C ls /usr/share/backgrounds/Crocus_Wallpaper_by_Roy_Tanck.jpg
[10:18] <oSoMoN> ls: cannot access '/usr/share/backgrounds/Crocus_Wallpaper_by_Roy_Tanck.jpg': No such file or directory
[10:20] <oSoMoN> it looks like bzr was finally converted to python3, but qbzr wasn't :/
[10:21] <oSoMoN> that wallpaper was part of ubuntu-wallpapers-bionic
[10:22] <seb128> oSoMoN, the question now is why -bionic got removed
[10:22] <oSoMoN> yeah, I'm trying to find out from the apt logs
[10:22] <seb128> you upgraded from eoan?
[10:22] <seb128> or bionic?
[10:24] <oSoMoN> from eoan
[10:25] <oSoMoN> mmm, /var/log/apt doesn't contain logs for the dist-upgrade, that's weird
[10:25] <seb128>  /var/log/dist-upgrade?
[10:26] <oSoMoN> right, just found it
[10:31] <oSoMoN> "[…] The following packages are marked for removal: […] ubuntu-wallpapers-bionic […]"
[10:31] <oSoMoN> that explains it, but it doesn't say why
[10:33] <oSoMoN> it's list in unused dependencies
[10:35] <oSoMoN> the only rdepends is actually a suggest in ubuntu-wallpapers, but this hasn't changed in focal, it was already the case in eoan
[10:35] <oSoMoN> so I'm not sure why that package wasn't removed when I upgraded to eoan (or to disco before it)
[10:48] <Laney> they're meant to be kept, but I can't remember the precise mechanism we were using to ensure that
[11:02] <oSoMoN> I'll file a bug against ubuntu-wallpapers
[11:09] <lool> Hi folks, I've upgraded from 19.10 to focal yesterday; was relatively painless modulo a wifi driver issue with 5.4 and my empathy accounts being gone
[11:10] <lool> I was using just a VOIP account in empathy (with Canonical SIP); now empathy always prompt me to add a local network account and I can't add a SIP account
[11:10] <lool> anyone using empathy + SIP account on focal?
[11:13] <oSoMoN> there we go, bug #1859431
[11:17] <lool> hmm I guess empathy is not maintained
[11:19] <lool> pidgin and ekiga websites seem fairly unmaintained too; any recommendation?
[11:21] <jibel> Hi lool, happy new year! For voip I use linphone and I'm happy with it.
[11:23] <lool> happy new year to you too   :-)
[11:23] <lool> thanks for the recommendation; I had forgotten about linphone, I used it a while back
[11:24] <lool> this was also promising: https://snapcraft.io/jami
[11:27] <lool> Hmm I can't add an account into linphone either; I wonder if I have some larger settings db issue
[11:33] <lool> Grmblb, rebooted, tried adding an account, no error popup but it's not added; no error in terminal either
[12:20] <seb128> oSoMoN, I'm unsure how to debug why it has been removed, maybe try asking juliank if he has a clue?
[12:33] <lool> jibel: config UI seems to be broken with linphone, but it worked; thanks for the recommendation! I ended up configuring it by hand in .linphonerc, the CLI client worked for a call, then I used the graphical client ignoring the assistant and the fact it listed no account
[12:34] <lool> I also tried twinkle which a Qt alternative in the archive; the config UI worked and I was able to make a call, but DTMF was foobared so I couldn't rely on t
[12:34] <lool> *it
[12:48] <oSoMoN> seb128, yeah, I'll do that
[15:16] <hellsworth> good morning everyone!
[15:18] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth
[15:18] <hellsworth> hi there oSoMoN !
[15:18] <hellsworth> did you have a nice weekend?
[15:20] <oSoMoN> nice, relaxing, and too short :) you?
[15:21] <hellsworth> ha yes i understand!
[15:21] <hellsworth> it was good. lots of quality baby playtime which is good. she's sooooo close to walking and it's super fun to work with her :)
[15:29] <didrocks> good morning hellsworth :)
[15:29] <hellsworth> hi didrocks !
[15:37] <seb128> bah, what does that mean?
[15:37] <seb128> $ git checkout -b upstream/latest
[15:37] <seb128> fatal: cannot lock ref 'refs/heads/upstream/latest': 'refs/heads/upstream' exists; cannot create 'refs/heads/upstream/latest'
[15:39] <Laney> it sounds like you can't make a branch called foo/bar when you have one called foo already
[15:41] <seb128> k, I guess I will try to delete 'upstream'
[15:41] <seb128> then checkout upstream/latest origin/upstream
[15:41] <seb128> hopefully that works
[15:41] <seb128> I'm trying to rename the n-m branch
[15:42] <seb128> (following debian)
[15:58] <Laney> good goal
[17:32] <hellsworth> forum.snapcraft.io isn't loading for me (but snapcraft.io is just fine). does anyone else  have issues loading this page?
[17:33] <hellsworth> i keep getting 503 service unavailable
[17:41] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: yeah broken for me
[17:41] <marcustomlinson> oh just came back
[17:42] <hellsworth> oh so it itd
[17:42] <hellsworth> did
[17:42] <hellsworth> thanks marcustomlinson !
[17:42] <marcustomlinson> I fix thigs, what can I say
[17:45] <hellsworth> :)
[21:15] <seb128> tjaalton, shouldn't mesa-common-dev also depends on libx11-xcb-dev?
[21:16] <seb128> tjaalton, webkit2gtk ftbfs now with that error
[21:16] <seb128> /usr/include/gstreamer-1.0/gst/gl/x11/gstgldisplay_x11.h:26:10: fatal error: X11/Xlib-xcb.h: No such file or directory
[21:16] <seb128> the gstreamer dev depends on libgl1-mesa-dev, libegl1-mesa-dev, libgles2-mesa-dev
[21:16] <seb128> which used to be enough to bring that header and isn't anymore?
[21:38] <tjaalton> seb128: I'll check tomorrow