[00:54] <sgen> Does anyone havea good guide to installing Ubuntu alongside windows 10?
[00:54] <sgen> Im running into some issues trying to get dual bootwork working
[00:55] <Bashing-om> !dual boot | sgen
[00:58] <sgen> Bashing-om: Thanks!
[00:59] <Bashing-om> !bcm | sgen
[01:03] <OerHeks> maybe you need the UEFi manual
[02:15] <CyberFingers> When attempting to update "sudo apt update" get a bunch of error message "The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates Release' no longer has a Release file.
[02:15] <CyberFingers> "
[02:20] <pragmaticenigma> CyberFingers, it's possible the mirror is currently refreshing it's packages and files from the primary repository. Try again in later
[02:21] <CyberFingers> can I change the server in the sources.list file? thanks
[02:25] <Bashing-om> CyberFingers:  mirror you're using is having issues?  try opening the Ubuntu software center, click the Edit menu > "Software Sources" and click the "Software" tab - try selecting a different mirror from the dropdown list ("Download from") .
[02:26] <CyberFingers> I'm using terminal
[02:28] <pragmaticenigma> CyberFingers, then it is better to wait this one out... usually a mirror is only down for a short while. Try again in an hour
[02:28] <Bashing-om> CyberFingers: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors // 389 mirrors registered, when you have one in mind - then 'sed' to replace in your sources.list file.
[02:29] <pragmaticenigma> CyberFingers, Also, this channel focuses mostly on the Desktop version of Ubuntu. If you are running server (or prefer to work in the terminal), it's better to use the #ubuntu-server chat where reponses are more likely to be given assuming you're in the terminal
[02:30] <CyberFingers> OK Thanks :)
[02:44] <dac894> anyone using transmission for torrents
[02:44] <mheath_> CyberFingers: I'm not sure I agree with other's advice. archive.ubuntu.com is the main, official US-based Ubuntu archive. While it certainly doesn't hurt to change mirrors, theres no reason you should need to do so.
[02:45] <mheath_> CyberFingers, While it shouldn't have caused you any issues, looking at the archive, the file in question was infact updated/replaced a bit before you asked your question. That file is routinely updated as packages are updated. I would simply try it again.
[02:45] <dac894> I want to crank up the upload on transmission, accept more peers, speed and such
[02:46] <augz> Gotta seed them ubuntu torrents harder - there should be a file by file override for global, it's also in preferences
[02:47] <dac894> augz, it still seems to crawl
[02:48] <augz> Edit -> preferences there's a speed, and downloading portion. sometimes it takes a minute to get peers found it's just the protocol, there has to be a more appropriate channel for that help
[02:48] <dac894> speaking of ...i have some of those to add...
[02:49] <dac894> augz, heh yes I think another channel heh
[02:49] <augz> #transmission
[03:14] <Intelo> I use virtual box, kubuntu for both host and guest. The pixels in guest are not sharp/accurate. What do I need to do?
[03:22] <element> I'm having trouble finding any resources on this. I'm trying to define either a path or wildcard of files to be excluded from cachefilesd, or set an inclusive set of files, as they are being shared across auto-scaling servers via EFS mount. Does anyone know of such a way to configure cachefilesd for that within Ubuntu?
[03:56] <Lagair> I have a quick question. I'm running 18.04 and accidently overwrote /etc/snmp/snmp.conf. Is there a way get get a copy of the default file?
[03:59] <RadSurfer_> ANYONE know how to ERASE/CLEAR the terminal scrollback history? Reset/clear does NOT do it!
[04:02] <Lagair> RadSurfer_:  Quick google search says 'history -c'
[04:02] <RadSurfer_> thanks...
[04:02] <mheath_> Lagair, here's an explanation of how to force a reinstall/rebuild of any conf file with dpkg: https://askubuntu.com/questions/66533/how-can-i-restore-configuration-files
[04:04] <Lagair> mheath_: Thanks. I couldn't quite figure out what to search for.
[04:06] <mheath_> Lagair, for snmp.conf though, having literally just worked with it, I can tell you that the default is just "mibs :"
[04:06] <mheath_> thats the only uncommented line in the default config file
[04:07] <Lagair> mheath_: Yep, just found that out.
[04:07] <Lagair> mheath_: Oh well, good info to have for the future. :)
[04:10] <RadSurfer_> history -c <-- this works for me. All I needed. thanks.
[04:16] <tieinv> history --help will tell all
[04:23] <CyberFingers> mheath_ I sm still getting an error and think it might be something else going on
[06:08] <hanasaki> what would you expect a base min kernel without X running to take in megabytes?
[06:25] <hanasaki> how does ubuntu figure out which AP to connect to , and when to switch APs when there are two APs with the same SSID
[06:25] <hanasaki> ?
[08:19] <Northstrider> Any way to automatically change my wallpaper every 30 minutes to another one in my wallpaper directory?
[08:21] <Northstrider> Wallch just crashes
[08:25] <barves>  I wish to create ubuntu liblivedvd i tried using uck/cubic/ubuntu-builder but for latest ubuntu 18.04 when I try to install apache2 it throws error as restarting in chroot environment and apache does not restart Can someone help me to suggest which tool I should use to create a new livedvd of ubuntu where I would like to install few packages and then burn the iso to redistribute the same
[08:26] <Northstrider> shotwell seems to work
[08:36] <adac> My Thunderbolt 3 dock seems to send the audio to the Monitor trough HDMI (my monitor seems to have speakers ). Any ideas how I can change that? I wanted sound to come out from headphone
[08:48] <ztane> is there a way to get a good resolution / display output changer to the system tray on Gnome / 18.04.3
[08:54] <barves>  I wish to create ubuntu liblivedvd i tried using uck/cubic/ubuntu-builder but for latest ubuntu 18.04 when I try to install apache2 it throws error as restarting in chroot environment and apache does not restart Can someone help me to suggest which tool I should use to create a new livedvd of ubuntu where I would like to install few packages and then burn the iso to redistribute the same
[09:18] <Bluewolf> Good day. How do I set Ubuntu applications Transparencies and keep them permanent. Like after every restart?
[09:20] <ztane>  
[09:20] <Bluewolf> I've been using this command: sh -c 'xprop -f _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY 32c -set _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY $(printf 0x%x $((0xffffffff * 80 / 100)))'
[09:21] <Bluewolf> It works great. But I have to do it on every start up and would like it to be permanent on the windows I use it on?
[09:59] <quaklo> hey. supppppper annoying: Ubuntu 19.10, deactivated Automatic Update Check to "NEVER" in the Software & Updater GUI, also editied the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic file and set ALL unattended-upgrade, update etc. etc. to 0, also I followed some advice and deactivated the systemctl of the daily check by apt.timer and apt.service with systemctl
[09:59] <quaklo> disable --now apt-daily{,-upgrade}.{timer,service}. Now I start my system again, and guess what: Update-notifier process prompts me Software&Updater and wants me to update! What the heck is wrong with this freaking system that all settings set are still overwritten by some other bs? Any advice except to report a bug again.... ?
[10:10] <sumagna> anyone her who can help me fix my bluetooth device not working?
[10:11] <sumagna> my network device is rtl8723de
[10:26] <soopho> hi all
[10:28] <Bluewolf> Anyone familiar with an alternative to compiz for application window transparency?
[10:36] <quaklo> mmhh... connection issues. i asked some question regarding ubuntu update. Still see my Q?
[10:38] <Ben64> quaklo: why not just update?
[10:39] <quaklo> ... why always counter questions...
[10:39] <Ben64> updates are good
[10:39] <quaklo> a system not doing what I say is bad
[10:39] <Ben64> yes
[10:40] <Ben64> but also, not updating is bad, so i'm curious
[10:40] <quaklo> ... always replying to someone curiosity "steals" me 90% of the time. If you can not think of any scenario where it might come handy I may not inspire you
[10:41] <JoeMerit> ya it can be super beneficial to not update
[10:41] <Ben64> what?
[10:41] <quaklo> nobody talks about not updating. It is about AUTO updating!
[10:41] <JoeMerit> isnt it just notifying you that there is updates
[10:41] <Ben64> that's not what you said
[10:42] <Ben64> you said it wanted you to update, not that it is automatically doing it
[10:42] <quaklo> joemerit yeah it is, but for that it has to be started, make some connection, download data. 3 steps i dont want. exp. not at every restart of a system
[10:42] <JoeMerit> remove the notifier software
[10:43] <Ben64> just set it properly in the update-manager and it will work
[10:43] <quaklo> joemerit was thinking about removing the package aswell. but that is not a clean solution to me.
[10:43] <quaklo> ben64 wow dismissed. lol
[10:43] <Ben64> it does work
[10:44] <quaklo> well. maybe you should not claim whats wrong. doesnt.
[10:44] <Ben64> maybe you're wrong
[10:44] <quaklo> here we go again, getting personal without any clue
[10:44] <Ben64> personal?
[10:44] <quaklo> irc needs some ignore feature
[10:44] <Ben64> your client probably has it
[10:45] <quaklo> nah, webchat. never use irc. to 90s
[10:45] <Ben64> well 19.04 loses support this month so either way you won't have updates for long :)
[10:45] <Ben64> oh wait, 19.10, you have till July
[10:46] <quaklo> ... ben stfu please
[10:46] <Ben64> rude
[10:46] <quaklo> you incisted on
[10:46] <Ben64> you came in here looking for support with an attitude
[10:46] <quaklo> yes, i came here asking for support and you reply with nonsens.
[10:47] <Ben64> i asked a simple question, which you could have just answered
[10:47] <quaklo> if you are so geeky, cmon, whats about the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic unattended-upgrade 0 cfg I set, or the systemctl disable --now apt-daily{,-upgrade}.{timer,service}? Mhh? you did not asked a simpel question. you made up zynism first. so please just move on
[10:47] <Ben64> and you refuse to accept that you could have been wrong about your diagnosis
 quaklo: why not just update?
[10:48] <Ben64> very simple question
[10:48] <quaklo> and again, has nothing to do with the question. like I sayed, people like you steal me 90% of the time because you think your nonsens Q has any matter
[10:49] <Ben64> you're wasting so much time instead
[10:49] <lord4163> Hi.
[10:49] <Ben64> so is it updating on its own or just prompting to update?
[10:49] <quaklo> anybody else in here enjoing the show? That ben really has to be born 64, am i right?
[10:49] <Ben64> quaklo: the attitude is a great way to ensure you do not get help in this channel
[10:50] <lord4163> I'm trying to open a slideshow in LibreOffice impress, but it starts the slideshow automatically on a different monitor. When I press escape, libreoffice exits?
[10:50] <quaklo> guess what, I do not seek your help
[11:03] <soophooi> hi all im having major issues with my bluetooth after resuming from sleep, can anyone recommend how to handle bluetooth turning itself off to save power (turning off from gui settings power isnt persistent) and systemctrl restart bluetooth + unplug reconnect bluetooth dongle wont allow me to find my speaker after sleep resume
[11:16] <freakynl> Hi, we use a SD card for booting multiple Raspberry Pi's. Unfortunately netplan seems to bind to interface name (and even the MAC address). Is there a way to have netplan just do dhcp on whatever interface?
[11:18] <waveform> freakynl, yup - you can use something like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y5dCjD4ScT/ in /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml and that'll just run dhcp on eth0; the "match:" stuff gets added by cloud-init when it doesn't find an existing network-config; for reference that's something we fixed in eoan so hopefully this shouldn't be an issue going forward
[11:20] <waveform> (from eoan onward, the first-time network configuration can be found in "network-config" on the boot partition: edit that to include whatever you want before first boot and cloud-init will give it to netplan)
[11:20] <freakynl> waveform: thanks I'll try that. There's no match stuff in the paste however and I'm not sure the interface will always be called eth0
[11:21] <waveform> freakynl, "out of the box" the interface should always be eth0 (at the moment) but yes, if you're doing something in your config that renames the interface you will need to adjust it accordingly
[11:24] <cmdaltescape> Does anyone know why Chrome's fonts in KDE look inconsistent? In Gnome it looks amazing. Why not in KDE? #ubuntu18.044 #kde5.12.9 #plasma - https://i.imgur.com/OmPLvsD.png
[11:31] <toffe> Hi guys
[11:31] <toffe> I have a Lenovo L580  with i7 8th gen cpu
[11:31] <toffe> It has turbo on up to 4Ghz
[11:32] <toffe> When I run "stress --cpu 8" and lscpu | grep MHz it maxes at 2.5Ghz
[11:32] <toffe> Anybody have a idea on why this is?
[11:33] <XiAye> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1077856/intel-turbo-boost-not-working-properly-18-04
[11:35] <toffe> XiAye: will check thanks. no_turbo = 0 atleast
[11:41] <cmdaltescape> To answer my own question: go to KDE System Settings > Appearance > Application Style > Gnome Application Style and set the font as desired. Cool! :)
[12:04] <ckopn> My virtual pc with ubuntu suddenly has begun unresolve dns names. Ping by IP works.  I put dns 1.1.1.1 everywhere with nmcli and gui. But it hasn't been working yet.  What to do next?
[12:08] <ckopn> "dig @1.1.1.1 example.com" shows connection timed out
[12:16] <ckopn> I guess dns resolving broke down after update & upgrade
[12:24] <ckopn> nslookup example.com  10.6.0.6  works! So the reason is the security policy of my company. They block all DNS requests outside LAN.
[12:33] <TimothyP> Hi, I have several machines running Ubuntu (19.10) and a USB HID device. I added udev rules to automatically assign the correctname to the device and assign hidraw.
[12:34] <TimothyP> now all machines have the exact same rule files. And on one of the machines if I connect the device and enter `lsusb -t` it shows the driver is bound
[12:35] <TimothyP> Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 12M. But on all other machines Driver= , 12M so the driver is not bound automatically. And I have to manually bind it with the following command: echo -n "1-3:1.0" > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usbhid/bind
[12:35] <TimothyP> at which point it then shows up correctly in lsusb -t and I am able to use it. Now I cannot figure out why one machine does this automatically and the others do not or how to fix it
[12:42] <jaydemir> I want an ubuntu iso that boots directly into a game (so I can flash multiple USBs to set up a LAN event). Obviously I can just write a script that runs on boot to launch into the game, but how do I go about making a small iso that can potential fit on a flash drive?
[12:43] <jaydemir> The game itself just sits in a download folder, it doesnt get 'installed' per se
[12:44] <Bluewolf> Is anyone familiar with an alternative to compiz, to render application windows transparent?
[12:46] <pragmaticenigma> Bluewolf: There is not a support alternative for Ubuntu
[12:46] <pragmaticenigma> *supported
[12:49] <ioria> Bluewolf, you can trry some shell extension
[12:49] <ioria> Bluewolf, like this : https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/982/glassy-gnome/
[12:49] <pragmaticenigma> Bluewolf: In the more recent versions of Gnome-Shell and KDE, the Desktop Environments have been supplying their own window compositors. Gnome-Shell, the default DE for Ubuntu, supplies its own internal compositor, which does not play well with others at this time. It is tightly coupled to the Desktop Environment
[12:54] <Bluewolf> ioria: I'm struggling to get it working.
[12:54] <ioria> Bluewolf, i see
[12:54] <Bluewolf> pragmaticenigma: So I'm noticing.
[12:55] <ioria> Bluewolf, maybe a reboot or a logout/in
[12:55] <pragmaticenigma> Bluewolf: https://askubuntu.com/a/8278
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> Bluewolf: wich ubuntu release are you asking your question for anyway?
[12:55] <pragmaticenigma> GNOME shell uses compositing and is integrated with Mutter, a compositing window manager for X11. Mutter is the next generation of the Metacity window manager which uses the Clutter toolkit for compositing.
[12:55] <pragmaticenigma> GNOME Shell has received some controversy in the free software community because the planned tight integration with Mutter will mean that users of GNOME Shell will not be able to switch to an alternative window manager without breaking their desktop. In particular, users will no longer be able to use Compiz while GNOME Shell is running.[2]. Discussion between the developers of Compiz and GNOME has failed to resolve the issue.
[12:55] <pragmaticenigma> However, it will still be possible for users to run the GNOME desktop environment without GNOME Shell and still use whatever window manager they choose.
[12:55] <Bluewolf> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu Gnome 18.04
[12:57] <Bluewolf> pragmaticenigma: I'm way over Compiz. Its just not getting certain windows to be transparent that's annoying.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:58] <Bluewolf> I can do it easy with this command: sh -c 'xprop -f _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY 32c -set _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY $(printf 0x%x $((0xffffffff * 80 / 100)))'
[12:58] <Bluewolf> Which is perfect. Just can't make it a permanent fixture. Using it on each start up is a bit much
[12:59] <pragmaticenigma> Bluewolf: That's because those commands are directed at Xserver... not the window manager
[13:00] <Bluewolf> pragmaticenigma: And that's why it stops working after the program is closed.
[13:02] <pragmaticenigma> Bluewolf: You might want to try asking in #gnome or their official channel is on the irc.gnome.org (GIMP network)
[13:03] <sumagna> anyone here who can help me with my bluetooth?
[13:03] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | sumagna
[13:04] <Bluewolf> pragmaticenigma: I'll give it a go, though I'm not optimistic.
[13:04] <sumagna> i am having this problem after installing drivers for my rtl8723de wifi device
[13:04] <sumagna> the bluetooth stopped working after that
[13:05] <sumagna> i got the drivers/modules from rtlwifi_new repository of larry finger
[13:05] <sumagna> !patience
[13:07] <Bluewolf> pragmaticenigma: lotuspsychje: ioria: Thanks for your time and help :y:
[13:07] <pragmaticenigma> sumagna: Support in this channel is only available for software obtained in the official Ubuntu repositories. You will have to seek out help from the PPA maintainer for help with their software
[13:07] <ioria> Bluewolf, ok
[13:09] <sumagna> ok will see to that
[13:16] <ioria> Bluewolf,  you could  work on this script : while : ; do for i in $(wmctrl -l| awk '{print $1}' ) ;do  xprop -id "$i" -f _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY 32c -set _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY $(printf 0x%x $((0xffffffff * 80 / 100))) ; done; sleep 1; done
[13:45] <aesthe> is it possible to replace the included Networkmanager package with a more recent version direct from github?
[13:47] <pragmaticenigma> aesthe: it is possible, but it is not supported by the volunteers here.
[13:47] <pragmaticenigma> aesthe: is there a particular reason that you desire having the latest Network Manager version?
[13:56] <aesthe> pragmaticenigma, I have been having trouple connecting to a company vpn via IpSec/l2tp. long story short I've noticed that none of the settings I have been writing have actually been making it to network manager.
[13:57] <aesthe> I wanted to know if that option was available if I couldnt get it to work otherwise
[13:59] <pragmaticenigma> aesthe: I don't believe a newer version is going to resolve that issue
[14:00] <pragmaticenigma> unless you've seen something in their change logs/release notes to indicate otherwise. It sounds more like an implementation issue
[14:05] <aesthe> yea you're probably right. I plan to spend some time on it on Friday. It just gets annoying when a few arch users are getting it to work without errors. Their version of NetworkManager is accepting options that Ubuntu isn't
[14:05] <aesthe> or my version that is
[14:12] <pragmaticenigma> aesthe: it's entirely possible. which version of Ubuntu are you currently using?
[14:12] <aesthe> 16.04 with KDE plasma on top
[14:13] <pragmaticenigma> oh, wow... that's pretty old
[14:14] <aesthe> still LTS though
[14:16] <pragmaticenigma> aesthe: Right, but if you're finding that something isn't working because of a versioning difference, I would recommend upgrading to a newer version of Ubuntu before trying to manually upgrade a single package. Building your own version is likely to have dependencies on things that aren't available in the 16.04 repos
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> aesthe: And while 16.04 is still supported, it is approaching EOL in a year. If you need to migrate, now is the time to start
[14:17] <aesthe> Thanks, I'll look into it
[14:18] <pragmaticenigma> !backports | aesthe: one other option is backports
[14:37] <sumagna> hello
[14:37] <sumagna> i was thinking about something
[14:38] <sumagna> i want to remove the rtlwifi modules from the computer using dkms
[14:39] <sumagna> because the bluetooth worked fine before it but how to remove it from the computer using dkms?
[15:05] <iATR> Hello
[15:08] <iATR> Anyone awake?
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> Hello iATR, hopefully your doing well today. Is there an Ubuntu support question we can help you with?
[15:09] <ryuo> $ask
[15:09] <ryuo> oh wrong channel.
[15:10] <iATR> I was mainly making sure that that I registered and everything properly. I do have a ssh question
[15:12] <iATR> I’m running Openssh server on laptop at home. Running Termius on my phone at work. The only time I can ssh my laptop seems to be when I’m on my home WiFi , is there a way around this?
[15:15] <MindSpark> Hey, I was upgrading 16.04 to 18.04 using do-release-upgrade. And now I ended up with a broken python.
[15:15] <MindSpark>  python3-apt : Depends: libapt-inst2.0 (>= 1.4~beta3) but 1.2.32 is installed
[15:15] <MindSpark>                Depends: libapt-pkg5.0 (>= 1.4~beta3) but 1.2.32 is installed
[15:15] <MindSpark> Can someone tell me if there's a way to fix that?
[15:17] <pragmaticenigma> iATR: You would need configure your router to allow SSH traffic from the internet to reach your home computer. Usually called port forwarding. BE CAREFUL! Exposing your computer to the open internet can be very dangerous. It is not recommended to use the standard SSH port and it is also recommended that you harden SSH by switching to public key verfication and disabling password authentication.
[15:18] <iATR> I see
[15:18] <iATR> Maybe it’s not worth the hassle then and the risk!
[15:19] <ryuo> iATR: using a non-standard port only does so much though. disabling password login for non-local clients would solve most of the security concerns.
[15:19] <iATR> @pragmaticenigma: Thanks for the info!
[15:19] <ryuo> that pretty much shuts down drive by connection attempts.
[15:20] <iATR> @ryuo is it possible ssh home from anywhere with just my cellular service?
[15:20] <ryuo> iATR: does your home network have a public IP?
[15:21] <ryuo> iATR: if not then no. it requires at least one public IP for server stuff to work.
[15:21] <ryuo> iATR: anything on cellular networks is usually behind CGNAT.
[15:21] <pragmaticenigma> iATR: As long as your internet provider supplies you with a public ip address, it is possible. Though most ISPs provide Dynamic IP addresses which change regularly, meaning you would need to know what the IP address is before you leave home everyday, and even then, the ISP could change it later
[15:21] <iATR> I haven’t set a static ip. Although I did hear that is suggested
[15:22] <ryuo> iATR: you can't set one unless your ISP provides you with one.
[15:22] <ioria> MindSpark, apt-cache policy libapt-inst2.0 libapt-pkg5.0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:23] <iATR> @ryuo oh I didn’t know that! So I need to call them to get a static IP address?
[15:23] <ryuo> iATR: not necessarily. dynamic DNS is a thing.
[15:23] <pragmaticenigma> iATR: There are services that you can sign up for that offer free domain names that can be updated with some software on your computer.
[15:23] <MindSpark> ioria, https://termbin.com/x4ev1
[15:23] <ryuo> honestly if you're going to do fancy stuff like this you should probably get a suitable router.
[15:24] <ryuo> it will make things a lot easier i think.
[15:24] <ryuo> openwrt or so.
[15:24] <iATR> Ok. I truly appreciate all the advice!
[15:24] <ryuo> openwrt can install a lot of addons to do a lot more.
[15:25] <ryuo> dynamic dns just one of them
[15:25] <ryuo> mine also runs some network services in some containers
[15:26] <ioria> MindSpark, cat /etc/apt/source.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:26] <iATR> I will definitely check it out!
[15:26] <MindSpark> ioria, I assume you meant sources.list? It's empty
[15:27] <ioria> yes
[15:27] <ioria> empty ?
[15:27] <ioria> MindSpark, ls -a /etc/apt/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:28] <MindSpark> Well... Not empty, but # Repos managed by puppet.
[15:28] <ioria> MindSpark, ls -a /etc/apt/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:28] <MindSpark> ioria, https://termbin.com/vf5n
[15:29] <ioria> MindSpark, cat  /etc/apt/sources.lis*   | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:31] <MindSpark> ioria, https://termbin.com/vsz8
[15:31] <ioria> MindSpark, well, i think you need a new sources.list
[15:32] <MindSpark> to fix the python3 installation?
[15:32] <ioria> MindSpark, for all
[15:32] <MindSpark> There's stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[15:33] <ioria> MindSpark, paste the content
[15:33] <ioria> MindSpark, grep -r -i ppa /etc/apt/   | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:35] <MindSpark> ioria, grep gives no output
[15:36] <ioria> MindSpark,  ll   /etc/apt/sources.list.d/    | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:37] <MindSpark> ioria, https://termbin.com/0owl
[15:38] <ioria> MindSpark, no idea of those lists;  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list     and put it in there : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sStz9s8D3k/
[15:39] <ioria> MindSpark,   and sudo apt update
[15:40] <MindSpark> Done, still getting the python3-apt error :/
[15:41] <ioria> MindSpark,   paste it
[15:42] <MindSpark> ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gGq9WXqy7j/
[15:42] <ioria> MindSpark,  sduo apt-get -f install
[15:42] <ioria> sudo
[15:44] <MindSpark> ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fHQ9cH3jXj/
[15:45] <Zedax> hello, does anyone know if the mediatek mt7612u is supported in station mode? uses the mt76 driver, but i can't see any reliable mention about what is working and what isn't
[15:45] <ioria> MindSpark,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:46] <MindSpark> ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nXb9ZtzrF7/
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> Zedax: try a liveusb to see if specific hardware is supported
[15:49] <ioria> MindSpark,  sudo mv   /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpam-syste*    /tmp
[15:51] <MindSpark> AAnd then update/upgrade?
[15:51] <ioria> MindSpark,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:52] <MindSpark> Same output :/
[15:53] <ioria> MindSpark,  dpkg -l | grep ~beta3     | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:55] <MindSpark> ioria, no output
[15:57] <ioria> MindSpark,  apt-cache policy python3-apt    | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:57] <MindSpark> ioria, https://termbin.com/rtmt
[15:58] <ioria> MindSpark,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:59] <MindSpark> Same dependency error
[16:00] <ioria> MindSpark,  what's your kernel ? uname -r
[16:00] <MindSpark> 4.15.0-74-generic
[16:01] <ioria> MindSpark, sudo apt clean
[16:03] <MindSpark> ok...
[16:03] <ioria> MindSpark, sudo apt autoclean
[16:04] <MindSpark> done
[16:06] <ioria> MindSpark,  sudo rm -rif  /var/lib/apt/lists
[16:06] <MindSpark> moved them to lists.old
[16:06] <ioria> MindSpark, ok, sudo apt  update
[16:07] <MindSpark> ok.
[16:07] <ioria> MindSpark, sudo apt  full-update
[16:07] <ioria> MindSpark, sudo apt  full-upgrade
[16:08] <MindSpark> Dependency problem again
[16:09] <ioria> MindSpark, sudo apt  install --reinstall  python3-apt=1.6.4
[16:09] <ioria> MindSpark, and paste the errors
[16:09] <MindSpark> ioria, same error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DJgRqPMcxk/
[16:10] <ioria> MindSpark, try again sudo apt-get -f install
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> unmet dependencys: external ppa's
[16:12] <ioria> lotuspsychje, probably, but i think he cannot install ppa-purge
[16:14] <MindSpark> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6Tr5mW5QG9/
[16:15] <lnxos> hi
[16:17] <ioria> MindSpark, sudo mv   /var/lib/dpkg/info/systemd.* /tmp
[16:17] <RoseBus> hello i have installed a package for the wrong architecture on my ubuntu
[16:17] <RoseBus> how can i uninstall the package
[16:18] <ioria> MindSpark,  again  sudo apt-get -f install
[16:19] <MindSpark> Alright!
[16:19] <MindSpark> That seems to have worked
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> !details | RoseBus
[16:19] <ioria> MindSpark,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:19] <MindSpark> no output this time
[16:20] <ioria> MindSpark,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:20] <RoseBus> i'm using nvidia jetson nano board and i downloaded the .tar from this link: https://developer.nvidia.com/deepstream-download
[16:21] <MindSpark> Ok, running. Thanks ioria! Can you maybe explain to me what the issue was?
[16:21] <RoseBus> i downloaded the .tar file for the tesla t4 which was not built for the nano board
[16:21] <RoseBus> somehow ubuntu let me install it, but i noticed it's failing to execute, then i realized i downloaded the wrong version
[16:21] <ioria> MindSpark,  the first thing is an empty sources.list ???  very weird
[16:22] <pragmaticenigma> RoseBus: is this something you manually execute? or did it install itself as a service?
[16:22] <RoseBus> so now i want to remove this version for tesla t4, and install the correct version
[16:22] <RoseBus> pragmaticenigma, it's not a service, it's manual exectution
[16:22] <ioria> MindSpark,  the second are those external sources ubuntu.list*  in sources.list.d
[16:22] <MindSpark> ioria, yes, what about them?
[16:23] <ioria> MindSpark,  no idea
[16:23] <pragmaticenigma> RoseBus: Then all you need to do is fing were it installed its files and delete them
[16:23] <pragmaticenigma> *find
[16:23] <MindSpark> Ubuntu didn't know how to upgrade them to bionic maybe?
[16:23] <RoseBus> oh okay thank you pragmaticenigma i'll just delete the directory then
[16:23] <ioria> MindSpark,  as i rule, when i perform an do-release-upgrade i remove/purge all the external sources
[16:23] <RoseBus> i wasn't sure if the binaries were moved by apt to some other location
[16:24] <ioria> MindSpark, maybe you enable -proposed or something like that
[16:24] <ioria> *ed
[16:24] <ioria> brb
[16:24] <MindSpark> Doesn't the script do that automatically? Hence those distUpgrade files?
[16:25] <iATR> Anyone running Mint on a late 2013 MacBook Pro? Everything working perfect for me aside from webcam.
[16:25] <pragmaticenigma> RoseBus: apt only allows you to install from a package from a repository
[16:26] <RoseBus> omg yes you're right i used tar not apt
[16:26] <RoseBus> lmao
[16:26] <pragmaticenigma> so minimal harm it would appear RoseBus
[16:26] <RoseBus> yea
[16:28] <RoseBus> pragmaticenigma, but at one point i did sudo ./install.sh
[16:28] <RoseBus> after i unpacked the binaries
[16:29] <RoseBus> and now i'm getting a symbolic link error when i try to run ./install.sh on the correct version
[16:29] <pragmaticenigma> RoseBus: You might have to inspect the script to see where it might have installed stuff to
[16:30] <RoseBus> ok
[16:34] <zxvff> I am having an issue where any web browser that I run frequently crashes or is in general just unstable. Sometimes the entire browser crashes unexpectedly, but more often than not it's an individual tab or several tabs which crash and has to be reloaded but the rest are fine. The hardware is a Dell XPS 13 9350 running Ubuntu 19.10
[16:34] <zxvff> Anyone have any ideas?
[16:34] <zxvff> This is the sort of dmesg I am seeing: [39200.470659] traps: Compositor[9144] trap int3 ip:556047ec1c1d sp:7f3f23cc0590 error:0 in chrome (deleted)[556045577000+7170000]
[16:35] <zxvff> something to do with a graphics driver perhaps?
[16:55] <sethh_89> what yall use to rdp from windows to ubuntu? ive installed xrdp, connect and it prompts me for login but im trying X11rdp and it just doesnt seem to actually let me control the machine.
[16:58] <pragmaticenigma> sethh_89: Personally I use VNC, secured behind a VPN
[16:59] <ioria> sethh_89, what DE ? gnome-shell ?
[16:59] <sethh_89> I tried VNC but had some issues. all my machines are local so dont need anything super secure
[16:59] <sethh_89> ioria KDE
[17:00] <ioria> sethh_89, can you login with Xorg  (the first option, i mean)?
[17:00] <sethh_89> Wait I got it using xorg. I had to logout of the local machine I guess
[17:00] <compdoc> sethh_89, I use x2go, but xrdp and the others require a 2D desktop. I use a minimla Mate desktop
[17:00] <sethh_89> Last time it just disconnected me
[17:00] <ioria> yes
[17:00] <sethh_89> Thank you
[17:00] <ioria> sethh_89, same with gnome3
[17:00] <ioria> ok
[17:01] <ioria> sethh_89, that's why with xrdp people use xfce ot lxde
[17:01] <compdoc> even  x2go requires a 2D desktop
[17:02] <RadSurfer_> PLEASE HELP: Terminal in Ubuntu is no longer behaving properly! I tried 'reset' and now is does not echo typed commands properly, etc! How do I fix this please!
[17:07] <compdoc> RadSurfer_ are you sure a key isnt stuck down?
[17:07] <RadSurfer_> No, it's something else. What I typed isn't echoed, and Up/down array fail to move through history!
[17:07] <sethh_89> Okay cool, I may look at xfce or something.
[17:08] <RadSurfer_> /s/array/arrows
[17:08] <RadSurfer_> I'm sure it can be fixed...
[17:10] <pragmaticenigma> RadSurfer_: Did you accidentally press "Ctrl + s" ?? If so "Ctrl + q" might help?
[17:10] <RadSurfer_> what do they do?
[17:11] <RadSurfer_> Freeze?
[17:11] <pragmaticenigma> "Ctrl + s" I think does something to the close to scroll lock. It "freezes" the terminal. "Ctrl + q" should restore it
[17:12] <RadSurfer_> Okay... but don't think I typed those...
[17:13] <pragmaticenigma> I do it all the time by accident
[18:06] <funabashi> Hi anyone got luch with XRDP? I did follow this guide, https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-xrdp-on-ubuntu-18-04/ but got no luck, i only see a blue screen. Not sure how to troubleshoot
[18:07] <pragmaticenigma> funabashi: Did you also install XFCE ??
[18:09] <funabashi> pragmaticenigma: yeah correct
[18:13] <ioria> funabashi, did you set a /.xsession file
[18:14] <pragmaticenigma> funabashi: Are you attempting to log into an existing session (one that you logged into on the localmachine) or remotely connect to a virtual environemnt
[18:14] <pragmaticenigma> ioria: that technique may not work if the desktop manager is SDDM or GDM
[18:15] <ioria> pragmaticenigma, i use it on gdm3
[18:15] <ash_worksi> I Know this isn't the channel for it, but does anyone know if you can select the results of a command in the terminator terminal
[18:15] <ash_worksi> ?
[18:16] <ash_worksi> so I can run like `cat foo` and have the output highlighted for a copy/paste action?
[18:16] <ioria> funabashi,  sorry not /.xsession  but ~/.xsession
[18:16] <funabashi> ioria: nope how do i set it?
[18:16] <ash_worksi> (or better just copy the output)
[18:16] <ioria> funabashi,  what's the main DE in use ?
[18:16] <funabashi> pragmaticenigma a new test user which not are logged in
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> ioria: that's what I was referring to. SDDM and GDM3 do not set the "magic cookie" until after a user has authenticated. Which means setting up VNC and xRDP services won't work until the default DM is set to lightdm
[18:17] <ioria> funabashi,  what's the main DE in use ?
[18:17] <funabashi> DE?
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> Desktop Environment
[18:17] <ioria> funabashi,  desktop environment
[18:17] <funabashi> xfce
[18:18] <sgen> So I think I fucked up my dual boot install. my BIOS boot menu shows Windows Boot Loader (2 of them somehow) with a UEFI Label, and the ubuntu loader without, grub doesnt initilize.
[18:18] <sgen> Can I just wipe the ubuntu partition and reinstall it?
[18:18] <ioria> funabashi,  ls ~/.xsession
[18:18] <pragmaticenigma> !ohmy | sgen : Please keep the language family friendly
[18:18] <ioria> funabashi,  ls  -al ~/.xsession
[18:19] <funabashi> ls: cannot access '/home/xyz/.xsession': No such file or directory
[18:19] <ioria> funabashi,  echo “xfce4-session” > ~/.xsession
[18:19] <pragmaticenigma> sgen: you can always wipe the partition... as for the entries in BIOS, I'm not sure if it will remove the stale entry or not
[18:20] <funabashi> -bash: /home/xyz/.xsession: No such file or directory
[18:20] <ioria> funabashi,  that cmd creates the file
[18:22] <ioria> funabashi, you're doing/typing  something wrong
[18:22] <funabashi> ioria: stupid question but how can i know 100% i run xfce?
[18:22] <ducasse> ash_worksi: you can pipe the output through xclip
[18:22] <ioria> funabashi, env
[18:26] <ioria> funabashi, env | grep -i current
[18:27] <funabashi> isene: nothing on current
[18:27] <ioria> funabashi,   env | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:28] <ioria> oh, are you logged out ?
[18:28] <funabashi> GDMSESSION=lightdm-xsession
[18:29] <shurdeek> any idea how to install ubuntu server on raspberry pi 4b without a monitor? I just realised it has a micro-hdmi port only, and I don't have any appropriate cable
[18:29] <ioria> funabashi,   env | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:30] <ash_worksi> ducasse: it's a remote session
[18:30] <shurdeek> I googled, and found that creating a file "ssh" on the boot partition enables ssh, but it looks like this is raspbian-only and doesn't appear to have any effect on ubuntu
[18:30] <ash_worksi> I was just reading about "accessing the backlog of a termina"
[18:30] <shurdeek> It doesn't even look like it does a DHCP request
[18:30] <ash_worksi> apparently it's supposed to be stored in /dev/vcsN were N is the tty number
[18:30] <ash_worksi> but it only works if I switch to a terminal only tty
[18:31] <ash_worksi> which does not store more than a screen-size backlog
[18:31] <ash_worksi> so if I switch to tty3, connect and run commands, I only get like 30 lines of output in vcs3
[18:32] <ash_worksi> if I do it in my gui tty, nothing shows up in vcs3... at least not when using "terminator" or "terminal"
[18:32] <shurdeek> or do you know if I run the install on R-pi 3 and then put the card into  pi 4, if it will work?
[18:32] <waveform> shurdeek, just flash the image to an SD card - there's no installer to speak of (it's based on the cloud images). From eoan onwards, the pi4 is supported (we're working on backporting support for the pi4 to bionic, but that's not complete yet)
[18:33] <shurdeek> I see, I'm using the bionic image
[18:33] <ash_worksi> oh terminal comes wiht a logger
[18:33] <shurdeek> so if I reflash with eoan it will just work (presumably, ubuntu/ubuntu ssh login)?
[18:33] <ash_worksi> great
[18:33] <waveform> shurdeek, for first time configuration (e.g. things like ssh), cloud-init is used - from eoan onwards the cloud-init seed is on the boot partition so after flashing the card, remount it and you'll see things like "network-config", and "user-data" on the boot partition - there's examples in "user-data" for ssh-import-id and other things
[18:34] <shurdeek> I see
[18:34] <shurdeek> and how easy is it to do an upgrade from eoan to 10.04 LTS once it comes out, is it just do-release-upgrade like on x86?
[18:34] <waveform> (and initial user/password, package installation, and all the other stuff cloud-init does etc. etc. :)
[18:34] <shurdeek> 20.04 LTS I mean
[18:35] <waveform> shurdeek, do-release-upgrade *should* work - but I can't say I've tested it yet! (too busy with the bionic backport at the mo)
[18:35] <shurdeek> ok
[18:35] <shurdeek> in the worst case I can just reinstall, i won't be running anything complicated there
[18:36] <shurdeek> let me retry then
[18:36] <waveform> on moving a card between a pi3 and a pi4: once pi4 support is back-ported to bionic, in theory you should be able to upgrade on a pi3, move the card to a pi4 and just boot it - at least that's the goal :)
[18:37] <shurdeek> thank you I'm now reflashing eoan
[18:39] <shurdeek> oh wait so the bionic image doesn't work on rpi4 at all, now I get it, it's from august and rpi4 came out a bit later
[18:42] <shurdeek> waveform: now after flashing eoan, I see the network-config and user-data files
[18:43] <waveform> shurdeek, yup that's right (on bionic pi4 support); on the eoan image, have a look in those files - I've put some (commented) examples in them - if you need more info, let me know (though I've got to go be "responsible parent" for a bit so apologies if I disappear for a while!)
[18:46] <shurdeek> ok eoan boots and ssh is up, I'm still having problems logging in but I think I'll figure it out now
[18:47] <skljdbv> INSTALLATION TROUBLE SHOOTING   -   ANYONE
[18:47] <skljdbv> ?
[18:47] <waveform> shurdeek, ah, you may have to wait a bit for cloud-init to finish settting up the user - there's a bug in the systemd ordering of things that lets getty (the login prompt) appear before cloud-init has finished - something I hoped to fix for eoan but didn't manage to land before release - hopefully should be done in time for focal
[18:47] <skljdbv> opting for "install ubuntu" results only in live mode
[18:47] <shurdeek> waveform: thanks I think I'll figure it out now
[18:48] <skljdbv> the "install ubuntu : ico on the desktop does not execute
[18:49] <skljdbv> how to execute ubuntu installation from terminal - bootable usb
[18:52] <EriC^> skljdbv: try typing "ubiquity" in the termina;
[18:53] <skljdbv> did
[18:53] <skljdbv> results in new terminal line
[18:54] <skljdbv> when clicking icon on desktop
[18:54] <skljdbv> ubtrusted application launcher error message
[18:54] <skljdbv> trust & launch does not result in execution either
[18:56] <ioria> skljdbv, wubi ?
[18:56] <skljdbv> what is wubi
[18:56] <ioria> nvm
[18:57] <skljdbv> ioria, any suggestion to the installing ubuntu manually
[18:57] <ioria> i don't know what you mean exactly
[18:59] <shurdeek> skljdbv: have you tried doing a memtest and image test just to make sure nothing is wrong?
[18:59] <ioria> skljdbv, there's no way (afaik) to install a desktop ubuntu version via cli
[18:59] <skljdbv> the thing is that when i ran the key for the first time the installer executed - but now the ubiquity.desktop is marked as untrusted??
[19:01] <skljdbv> is there a way to reset the usb - not showing the user log in when in live mode
[19:01] <skljdbv> anynone
[19:02] <shurdeek> skljdbv: well if you really want to do it manually, you can use debootstrap, but that's just a small part of the whole, you also need to do the partitioning and fstab and things like that
[19:02] <skljdbv> MEMTEST, IMAGETEST? HOW
[19:02] <shurdeek> the boot menu should have both options available
[19:03] <skljdbv> sherdeek opting for "install ubuntu" results only in live mode
[19:04] <tomreyn> skljdbv: before we discuss alternatives, let's focus on why this installer does not behave as expected in the first place: can you tell what reports that the installer is an "untrusted application"?
[19:04] <tomreyn> the ubuntu installer itself would not point out that something is an untrusted application, so i assume it must be some kind of a virus scanner?
[19:05] <skljdbv> clicking on the ubiquity.desktop [which btw does not display the true install ubutu icon]
[19:05] <tomreyn> are ouy installing in a virtualization environment, or under windows?
[19:05] <skljdbv> the ghard disk in formatted & empty
[19:06] <skljdbv> bootable usb
[19:06] <tomreyn> or have you booted this computer from a usb you created and no virtualization is involved?
[19:06] <skljdbv> the thing is that when i ran the key for the first time the installer executed - but now the ubiquity.desktop is marked as untrusted??
[19:06] <skljdbv> yes correct, usb
[19:06] <skljdbv> usb only
[19:06] <tomreyn> !md5sum | skljdbv
[19:07] <tomreyn> i think the data on your usb attached installer storage is corrupt
[19:07] <skljdbv> the image is correct as it was used to install ubuntu on other disk
[19:07] <tomreyn> this can be a result of the .iso image not downloading properly in the first place.
[19:08] <skljdbv> & the installer ran correctly the first time on this machine, but the hard disk was not connected properly
[19:08] <tomreyn> there are three processes where corruption can occur: (1) downloading the .iso image, (2) writing the iso image to the usb storage, (3) running the installer from the usb storage (read errors)
[19:08] <skljdbv> so no show in installation wizard step 3 if recalled correctly
[19:09] <skljdbv> then i rebooted alltogether & the ubiquity desktop ico changed, including not executing
[19:09] <tomreyn> the ubuntu installer provides a menu option for checking the files on the installer media. this shows on the very first screen after boot.
[19:09] <skljdbv> hmmmm.....any way to "reset" the usb
[19:10] <tomreyn> i suggest you try this media test first.
[19:10] <skljdbv> OK, thanks tomreyn
[19:12] <tomreyn> shurdeek: so you were on the right track and i just complicated matters, sorry ;)
[19:20] <funabashi> Hi where do i configure so my bash script runs next reboot? back in the days i used /etc/rc.lcal .. but its kinda old guess
[19:22] <Habbie> funabashi, make a systemd unit file
[19:40] <pragmaticenigma> funabashi: you can also schedule it via cron with @reboot
[19:41] <zxd> hi
[19:41] <zxd> is it possible to install ubuntu on the same usb drive that I booted from
[19:42] <EriC^> zxd: no
[19:42] <zxd> Not even with a network install?
[19:43] <zxd> kernel and initramfs loaded into ram
[19:43] <zxd> from the usb drive
[19:44] <EriC^> zxd: you dont have an hdd at all?
[19:44] <EriC^> zxd: cause you could boot the install image from there using grub
[19:44] <EriC^> or even use virtualbox to install to the usb if you have that on some os
[19:45] <zxd> I have usb2 4GB drive and 1TB usb3 drive, want to install /boot partition to usb2 so I will able to boot and root / to 1TB usb3 drive
[19:45] <zxd> bios dosen't support uefi
[19:46] <iATR> The only distro I have been able to instal via usb has been Mint. Parrot and Kali both installations end with EFI errors. I don’t get it.
[19:46] <iATR> And UbuntuStudio
[19:46] <iATR> It worked fine.
[19:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> !offtopic
[19:49] <shurdeek> waveform: it's working now, thanks
[19:51] <alive> Hi, I have a ryzen 2700x with an rx580 and I'm running in to an issue where my desktop, mouse movement and sound from spotify occasionally stutter. If I reboot the PC, it sometimes resolves itself. Where do I start debugging? I've ruled out any single desktop app (closing browser, spotify, or anything). Also the logs are silent, I cannot make any correlation in /var/log/* to the stuttering issue. Where do I
[19:52] <alive> start debugging?
[19:53] <alive> whoops, sentence too long, i started repeating myself.
[19:53] <mguy> I'd boot into Windows to make sure it's not a hardware problem
[19:53] <sarnold> alive: ugh. sounds unfun. you could leave a 'perf top' running and see if you can spot something; you could also try collecting cpu frequency or power draw or temperature or similar stats and try to notice something..
[19:56] <alive> I do watch my cpu frequency and temperatures from my statusbar, those seem... normal. Do you have any suggestions for something that can graph values? I use psensor but it doesnt seem able to plug any other values than the builtin stuff.
[19:56] <alive> oooh perf top is nifty. I never used it before.
[19:58] <bradfa> alive: if you disable the "ondemand" CPU freq governor, does it get less bad?
[19:58] <alive> I run the performance governor
[19:59] <alive> Running 'perf top --sort comm,dso', i have in my top3: swapper, spotify, Compositor. This is normal, yes?
[19:59] <sarnold> alive: I'm not sure about "easy" ways to graph temps.. pcp and similar tools exist but wow those can be a pain to set up
[20:00] <alive> yeah i almost fell into a rabbit hole of grafana and telegraf once lol
[20:00] <alive> until I noticed it would corrupt all the data collected by itself by executing all the scripts for metrics
[20:01] <sarnold> swapper, interesting.. does vmstat 1  show any traffic in si and so? bi and bo?
[20:01] <sarnold> heh hopefully because the machine was so idle that collecting the stats was the most taxing thing..
[20:02] <alive> Yeah exactly. Not very useful for collecting data about idle.
[20:03] <alive> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NrvKw6zcnK/ <- vmstat 1
[20:04] <alive> bi and bo have some
[20:04] <ioria> alive, what's the kernel in use ?
[20:04] <alive> Linux greenb0x 5.3.0-26-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 18 05:37:46 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:04] <alive> freesync support landed in 5.3 so I've been happy for that.
[20:05] <ioria> alive, you know , you can always test another kernel from mainline ...
[20:06] <alive> mguy: sorry, i overlooked your suggestion. I've tried installing Windows but in the end I just gave up because windows is too much work to get... working.
[20:07] <alive> I'll try. We're using the 'mainline' application for this now, yes? ukuu went to a pay to play model i think
[20:08] <alive> i still have a shameful old ntfs spinning rust drive that has a bunch of my old files and documents that i never really seem to need but also dont want to lose.
[20:11] <sarnold> alive: alright those bi and bo numbers are pretty boring. there's something periodically reading from disk but it's not a lot, probably not a big deal. with 'swapper' in the list I expected to see some swap traffic
[20:11] <alive> so seing swapper there would be unusual without high memory usage spilling into swap space?
[20:12] <alive> Now that I think about it, those stutters do resemble swapping
[20:12] <sarnold> I think so; I'm not sure what else would cause swapper to show up in process lists.. maybe I'm not aware of everything it does though
[20:13] <alive> This is all ona freshly booted system, only running 3 terminals and one instance of chromium in i3-gaps (regolith). WM choice does not have any effect: ubuntu desktop, i3 no compositor, i3 gaps with compositor, all show the same behaviour.
[20:14] <alive> 16 gb ram and 13g showing as 'available'
[20:15] <sarnold> alive: very strange :/ that sounds like a system that ought to run pretty well
[20:15] <alive> Alright, thanks for the debugging help everyone :) First I'll try a mainline kernel, then I'll try reinstalling 19.10 from fresh.
[20:16] <alive> If that doesn't work, I'll do my best to try out windows and see if it reacts similarly.
[20:18] <sarnold> good luck alive :) I'll be curious to hear what you find
[20:19] <alive> I kinda hope a little bit it turns out to be a gpu problem. I've been waiting for an excuse to upgrade lol
[20:34] <basalt> hi all, i use ubuntu 19.10 and using a Epson XP-352 Printer, the printer works fine with Android, but if i want to print something from ubunut, the printing sign shows up for a second and disappears, i added the correct drivers. any other hints ?
[20:34] <alive> Try with the postscript drivers and see if it prints.
[20:36] <alive> sarnold: Ok so when I said that logs recored no problems, I was being stupid. Of course in dmesg I found "retire_capture_urb: 2492 callbacks suppressed" and a quick google led me to unplug my USB DAC. So far it's been stutter-free.
[20:37] <ioria> Epson should work oftb with usblp .... basalt , it's not the case ?
[20:38] <basalt> i see the printer, also the connection looks fine, but looks like ubuntu stops sending data
[20:38] <alive> I can't believe I've been having this issue for almost a year now and never thought to just unplug the sound card... jeeez.
[20:39] <ioria> basalt, remove the printer, reconnect the usb cable and add again
[20:42] <basalt> ioria: there is no usb connection possible
[20:42] <basalt> only wifi
[20:42] <basalt> and SD card
[20:42] <sarnold> alive: aha! a lead to follow :)
[20:42] <sarnold> alive: bummer though it sounds likely to be an expensive dac ..
[20:43] <alive> sarnold: fiio e10k. Cheapest I could find. There's some clues about people stopping those messages by increasing the output settings of pulseaudio or otherwise reconfiguring the sound subsystem.
[20:43] <sarnold> alive: oh nice, I hope you can find something to make it less bad
[20:44] <alive> Me too :) Thanks sarnold!
[20:44] <sarnold> alive: it might be worth checking to see if upstream kernels can reproduce the problem, if so, a bug report to lkml may be useful too. there might not be anything that can be done, but you never know unless you try..
[20:45] <alive> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1769914 <- wontfix because it was filed on 18.10. I can try to gather some debug metrics and re-filing for 19.10
[20:48] <sarnold> alive: oh nice. bummer it seems ignored but this bug filer is now a canonical employee, I wonder if he's addressed this some other way :)
[20:49] <basalt> ioria: when i use terminal with "lp -d EPSON_XP_352_355_Series Report.pdf" its working, but via pdf viewer, or browser its not working
[20:49] <veebox> is there a channel for those running 20.04 to chat?
[20:50] <genii> veebox: #ubuntu+1
[20:51] <veebox> thanks genii
[21:06] <basalt> with Okular pdf printing is working, but evince not
[21:07] <alive> Sorry for asking such a basic question, but are you selecting the right printer in the printer dialog? Sometimes it can default to 'save to pdf' or something similar.
[21:09] <basalt> alive: yes, its selected also i see the short "printing" dialog on the printers screen.
[21:11] <basalt> i use now okular as default app to use, lets see. anyway, thanks for the support here!
[21:14] <alive> oh that is weird man
[21:21] <bprompt> basalt:  Okular uses libpoppler libraries, btw there's an app Qpdfview, also QT based and uses libpoppler, Qpdfview is a tabbed viewer, so you can open multiple pdf at once and even arrange the tabs by just dragging, just so you know
[23:51] <shurdeek> hello
[23:52] <shurdeek> any idea how to specify channel in access point definition in netplan? I found a mention of "channel" key in here: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/artful/man5/netplan.5.html but the current version (eoan) doesn't have that
[23:54] <brianjaod> hey scrum pros, I'm new to scrum/agile and really struggling to understand how you come up with a project time/budget estimate?  Does agile/scrum essentially do away with that idea?
[23:54] <brianjaod> I understand the basic tiered level difference between epics, stories, and tasks, but still not clear on how to estimate the time/cost for a new project.  Any suggestions?  Thanks so much!
[23:54] <tomreyn> !ot | brianjaod
[23:57] <OerHeks> indeed, channel= option is gone in netplan.
[23:57] <OerHeks> try to find why..
[23:58] <shurdeek> if it helps, it's for a raspberry pi 4b, i managed to get the AP up but it defautls to channel 1 and I don't want that
[23:58] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netplan.io/+bug/1811160
[23:59] <shurdeek> OerHeks: is there perhaps some hack that I can have it execute a custom script that will set the channel?