| didrocks | doko: cpaelzer: FYI, I won't be available for the MIR team meeting today. Nothing already unoticed to raise | 12:25 |
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| cpaelzer | ok didrocks | 12:28 |
| cpaelzer | pre meeting ping for awareness jamespage doko sarnold | 13:57 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: (excused) | 13:57 |
| jamespage | o/ | 13:57 |
| cpaelzer | cyphermox: (technically still a member right?) | 13:57 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: did I miss someone in above ping? | 13:59 |
| jamespage | joeubuntu maybe | 14:00 |
| joeubuntu | I'm here. | 14:00 |
| cpaelzer | doko: are you here? | 14:01 |
| cpaelzer | I know jamespage and I have some things with us to decide and I'd want to avoid this seems like cross-acking each others stuff | 14:02 |
| cpaelzer | well joeubuntu can be the nay-sayer then if needed :-) | 14:02 |
| joeubuntu | I'll try my best :) | 14:02 |
| cpaelzer | I've also sent doko a query as ping | 14:03 |
| cpaelzer | lets get started as is and hope he joins us later thne | 14:03 |
| jamespage | context - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ovn/+bug/1859601 | 14:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1859601 in ovn (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ovn (binary only)" [Undecided,New] | 14:03 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:03 |
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| cpaelzer | can you repeat for the log jamespage? | 14:03 |
| jamespage | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ovn/+bug/1859601 | 14:03 |
| jamespage | context is that we've split the ovn source package out of the openvswitch package (already in main). | 14:04 |
| cpaelzer | as I said this morning, you already have my ack jamespage | 14:04 |
| jamespage | the objective for 20.04 is to make OVN the default SDN for OpenStack on Ubuntu | 14:05 |
| cpaelzer | as its source was in main before it has had reviews and such already | 14:05 |
| jamespage | so I've seeded the required binaries into one of the server supported seeds | 14:05 |
| cpaelzer | joeubuntu: you need to be the third vote to decide, do you agree that in such a case we can fast-path ack it to be promoted? | 14:06 |
| joeubuntu | +1 | 14:06 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: ok I'm setting the bug state | 14:07 |
| jamespage | ta | 14:07 |
| joeubuntu | for the reasons cpaelzer and jamespage laid out. | 14:07 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: only it is listed as "unsubscribed" | 14:07 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: could you do the pkg-subscription for openstack team whie I change state | 14:07 |
| jamespage | I sorted that out this morning - might not have refreshed yet | 14:07 |
| cpaelzer | ah ok thanks | 14:07 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: the update is done, you just need to get an AAs attention as usual | 14:08 |
| cpaelzer | other cases for discussion from you jamespage? | 14:09 |
| jamespage | ta - no rush I'll chase one down if it does not happne | 14:09 |
| jamespage | no - I think ceph-iscsi and nfs-ganesha are both with joeubuntu and the security team for review | 14:09 |
| cpaelzer | ok then topic switch - I have an own bug(s) to discuss | 14:09 |
| * jamespage listens | 14:09 | |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/containerd/+bug/1819761 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/runc/+bug/1817336 | 14:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1819761 in containerd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] containerd" [Undecided,New] | 14:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1817336 in runc (Ubuntu) "[MIR] runc" [Undecided,New] | 14:10 |
| cpaelzer | last discussed on the engineering sprint | 14:10 |
| cpaelzer | let me summarize the background | 14:10 |
| cpaelzer | 1. plenty of golang dependencies | 14:10 |
| cpaelzer | 2. comes with the deps vendorized | 14:10 |
| cpaelzer | 3. we were tasked to anaylze the dependencies if some of them are packaged | 14:10 |
| cpaelzer | 4. this is a special case as runc/containerd will NOT stay at their version, they will get regular bumps to new major versions | 14:11 |
| cpaelzer | like we did with docker.io in the past | 14:11 |
| jamespage | and so their dependencies will change over time as well right | 14:11 |
| jamespage | ? | 14:11 |
| cpaelzer | yes jamespage, they will update | 14:11 |
| cyphermox | cpaelzer: no, technically not a member anymore | 14:11 |
| cpaelzer | cyphermox: :-/ but still o/ | 14:12 |
| cpaelzer | therefore the decision in Paris was that we'd want dependencies that have extra packages alrady in main (e.g. due to LXD work in the past) to use these packages | 14:12 |
| cyphermox | cpaelzer: MIR is Canonical-specific, AFAIK; since I'm not Canonical anymore, I wouldn't necessarily be representing the best interests, but I'll be happy to give you my opinion on software when asked :) | 14:12 |
| cpaelzer | if on a bump the vendored dependencies are needed on a newer level we'd swicth from package to vendored dependency | 14:13 |
| cpaelzer | while the other vendored dependencies (since they'd move anyway and have no initial better review-path) can stay vendored | 14:13 |
| cpaelzer | now the analysis is complete and was added to the bugs | 14:13 |
| cpaelzer | TL;DR: none of the dependencies are in main already | 14:13 |
| jamespage | concern - both juju and lxd are no longer shipped in the archive so are they archive maintainers for the packages that have been split out | 14:14 |
| jamespage | ? | 14:14 |
| jamespage | they/there | 14:14 |
| cpaelzer | yes they are still | 14:14 |
| jamespage | I suspect the LXD team where probably doing some of them | 14:14 |
| cpaelzer | as usual with a MIR who brought it in owns it | 14:14 |
| cpaelzer | but they might have dropped to universe since then | 14:14 |
| jamespage | are they also in Debian? | 14:15 |
| cpaelzer | most, but not all are packaged in Debian/Ubuntu | 14:15 |
| jamespage | just considering that if they are Ubuntu only and end up with no reverse depends they might pop up on a potential to remove list | 14:15 |
| jamespage | TBH I struggle to hate vendoring - on the one side I appreciate that its not the distro model and muddies the view of the world | 14:16 |
| jamespage | on the other hand - its what upstream have tested with... | 14:16 |
| jamespage | that said we've taken a similar approach in ceph | 14:16 |
| joeubuntu | as long as we can easily track the versions in the vendored code I am not against it. | 14:16 |
| jamespage | (and that's not go) | 14:16 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: joeubuntu: what I'd want from you know is considering the above; the Paris discussion if you remember; and the bugs; then with me discuss/ack that we'll go forward on this case with the MIR and security review keeping dependencies vendored | 14:16 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro: ^^ if you want to chime in as well | 14:17 |
| joeubuntu | I think we should proceed as planned in Paris . | 14:17 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro: ahasenack were the ones working on prepping the MIRs and the package | 14:17 |
| cpaelzer | joeubuntu: ok, that would mean since nothing is in main we keep all vendored then | 14:17 |
| jamespage | tbh I think that's the reality of where the packages would be in 6-9 months anyway | 14:18 |
| jamespage | so at least if we've reviewed whats vendored we have a know good startline... | 14:18 |
| doko | sorry, typing too much ... | 14:18 |
| joeubuntu | We've got the ability to track it on our end, so I'm cool with it. | 14:18 |
| cpaelzer | ok, I'd MIR ack the bugs then and "all that is left" is the security review then (a lot I know) | 14:19 |
| cpaelzer | it already is assigned to security and on their trello | 14:19 |
| cpaelzer | doko: anything to add since you are now with us? | 14:19 |
| cpaelzer | we can give you a few min to inhale all the backlog here :-) | 14:19 |
| joeubuntu | As an update we are down to 9 MIRs from a high of 14 in December. | 14:20 |
| doko | not from my side | 14:20 |
| kanashiro | do you mean a way to track the diff of vendorized deps between versions in both packages? | 14:20 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro: joeubuntu and all of seucrity will need to track if containerd has dependency A at version 1.2.3 | 14:21 |
| joeubuntu | kanashiro , if that is for me, we have the ability to track the version of vendorized code in all vendored packages | 14:21 |
| cpaelzer | in case 1.2.3 becomes known to be affected to know that we also need to change the package that vendorized it | 14:22 |
| joeubuntu | I can't recall the details of how... but the tools exist. | 14:22 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro: have you added the result of the package anylasis to both bugs already runc and containerd? | 14:22 |
| cpaelzer | anylasis->analysis | 14:22 |
| kanashiro | cpaelzer, I just need to add a comment to containerd bug, but I have it in my notes | 14:23 |
| ahasenack | note we will have potentially two versions of vendor code in the archive: the package in universe, and the vendored code inside runc/containerd | 14:23 |
| cpaelzer | I only see it on the runc bug | 14:23 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro: ok please add it there | 14:23 |
| kanashiro | runc ibug is ok | 14:23 |
| cpaelzer | ahasenack: yeah but that (two versions) is the natural consequence of vendorizing | 14:23 |
| ahasenack | yep | 14:23 |
| cpaelzer | ok I conclude that we are ok and will update the bug then | 14:23 |
| cpaelzer | lets go on with the tail end of the "normal" MIR meeting | 14:24 |
| * kanashiro is copying and pasting his notes regarding containerd now | 14:24 | |
| cpaelzer | #topic Review of previous action items | 14:24 |
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| cpaelzer | I'm not aware of recent action items | 14:24 |
| cpaelzer | anything for you others? | 14:24 |
| cpaelzer | ok - I take that as a no, then ... | 14:25 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 14:25 |
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| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:25 |
| cpaelzer | there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gamemode/+bug/1853830 | 14:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1853830 in gamemode (Ubuntu) "[MIR] gamemode" [Undecided,New] | 14:25 |
| cpaelzer | from the Desktop team or Wimpress | 14:25 |
| cpaelzer | anyone having extra context on that one? | 14:26 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: I know you are not here - but you'll read thids ping. Could you clarify if this is up for review or waiting on anything else? | 14:27 |
| cpaelzer | It is there quite some time for not being mentioned before, therefore a pre-check by someone close to desktop could be useful | 14:27 |
| cpaelzer | next list | 14:27 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 14:28 |
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| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:28 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usbguard/+bug/1816548 | 14:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1816548 in usbguard (Ubuntu) "[MIR] usbguard" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:29 |
| cpaelzer | joeubuntu: did you (=security) and any desktop member get further on this one? | 14:29 |
| cpaelzer | last was an update by jdstrand missing still some fixes | 14:29 |
| cpaelzer | seb128 isn't here, didrocks could you ask internally if Desktop wants to re-emphasize or drop the efforts on usbguard? | 14:30 |
| joeubuntu | cpaelzer It is still in progress by jdstrand | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | should it move from incomplete to new then? | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | as incomplete indicates waiting on the reporter | 14:31 |
| joeubuntu | Let me check with jdstrand when he comes back. | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | ok, you have the powers to set tat state then if he agrees | 14:32 |
| joeubuntu | yup | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | the last I see worth for discussion is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjpeg2/+bug/711061 | 14:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 711061 in openjpeg2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] openjpeg2" [High,Incomplete] | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | had security review a) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjpeg2/+bug/711061/comments/62 | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | which let doko set it to incomplete | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | then a lot of things happened | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | and we got https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjpeg2/+bug/711061/comments/71 | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | which is security review (b) | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | doko: joeubuntu: Is that ready for promotion now? | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | as (b) was an ack | 14:34 |
| joeubuntu | Yes it was acked. promote | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | doko: or are you waiting on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjpeg2/+bug/711061/comments/70 ? | 14:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 711061 in openjpeg2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] openjpeg2" [High,Incomplete] | 14:34 |
| joeubuntu | cpaelzer hold on, | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | holing ... :-) | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | +d | 14:35 |
| joeubuntu | I may be wrong... | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | I also don't see desktop-packages subscribed | 14:36 |
| joeubuntu | I thought it was done, let me check with the team and get back via email. | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | joeubuntu: you could check with the team and then do a small update on the bug maybe? | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | directly on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjpeg2/+bug/711061 | 14:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 711061 in openjpeg2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] openjpeg2" [High,Incomplete] | 14:37 |
| joeubuntu | will do | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | thanks | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | so I guess we unblcoked all we heard about | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 14:38 |
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| cpaelzer | we had the two big discussion in the beginning | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | anything else? | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | ... no? | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | 3 | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | 2 | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | 1 | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | than ks everyone | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | today was a rather big one, so thanks-twice! | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jan 14 14:39:27 2020 UTC. | 14:39 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-01-14-14.03.moin.txt | 14:39 |
| Laney | eee sorry | 14:40 |
| Laney | cpaelzer: can I flag https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-smc-gayathri/+bug/1858620 to the team pls? | 14:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1858620 in fonts-smc-gayathri (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonts-smc-gayathri" [Undecided,New] | 14:40 |
| Laney | should be easy hopefully, but blocking fonts-smc in proposed | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | you won't be in the log, but people are still here | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | I'm rather heads down on stuff that needs to be done before I need to get the capetown plane | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: I assume it isn't different for you? | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | Laney: I can take a look somewhen next week as the sprint allows | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | Laney: is it more urgent than that? | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | chances for a fonts-package are we might need no security-review | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | but no promise | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | I've seen fonts packages that contained dameons! | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | or even daemons | 14:43 |
| Laney | cpaelzer: not super urgent, but is currently blocking so wanted to flag it to the mir team | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | ok Laney I'll assign myself then | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | I'll have some breaks on the sprint where a review might just fit very well | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | like dumping all my bad mood into areject :-P | 14:45 |
| Laney | :))) | 14:45 |
| jamespage | lol | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | I realized that sounds wrong, I' usually fine except being compacted too much by airplane seats | 14:47 |
| didrocks | cpaelzer: I asked last time. Will redo today | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | sorry didrocks | 14:48 |
| didrocks | nw ;) | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | it will keep coming up unless you mark it invalid if no one answers you :-) | 14:48 |
| didrocks | heh. I should definitively do that :p | 14:48 |
| didrocks | same for gamemode | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | yep | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | bugs are like zombies, properly resurrect or burn them | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | nobody wants the in-between-states | 14:49 |
| didrocks | indeed! | 14:49 |
| didrocks | cpaelzer: I'll handle gamemode. usbguard will be set as incomplete in a moment until a definitive decision is taken | 14:54 |
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