[17:58] <Barry[m]> hello room.  after fighting with desktop themes and qt applications, [this article](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_look_for_Qt_and_GTK_applications#Using_a_GTK_icon_theme_in_Qt_apps) suggests that for gtk/qt compatibility the `DESKTOP_SESSION` env var should be set to `gnome`...
[17:58] <Barry[m]> in U.S., it is set to `ubuntustudio`  which I'm thinking could be throwing off qt. thoughts  ??? 
[18:33] <OvenWerks> The new gnome way of doing things makes using lots of windows a pain.
[18:34] <OvenWerks> Gnome tends to steal the top bar and force it's own theme on users if they want it or not
[18:34] <OvenWerks> One of the worst things this does, is make it quite hard to visually see which window has focus
[18:36] <OvenWerks> QT/xfce styles of doing tings retains the title bar decoration and allows a user to make the focused window have a contrasting colour. Gnome does not.
[18:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> !support  | freenode_bjmuld[m] 
[18:44] <Barry[m]> yes, yes, I know
[18:44] <Barry[m]> but I don't need support, per se
[18:45] <Eickmeyer[m]> Then what are you trying to accomplish? This issue is not present in 19.10 and we can't backport anything like that to 18.04 without causing errors.
[18:45] <Eickmeyer[m]> 19.10 includes qt5ct by default.
[18:45] <Barry[m]> just wanted to ask the devs about whether introducing a new DESKTOP_SESSION could confuse downstream users of that var
[18:46] <Barry[m]> won't downstream apps inherit icons and themes based on this var?
[18:46] <Eickmeyer[m]> freenode_bjmuld[m]: All of the devs are in #ubuntustudio-support. That's why it exists. This is for development collaboration only.
[18:46] <Barry[m]> 10-5
[18:46] <Barry[m]> lol
[18:46] <Eickmeyer[m]> freenode_bjmuld[m]: That's not how that works. And downstream? We don't have downstream.
[18:46] <Barry[m]> 10-4!
[18:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> Er... #ubuntustudio.
[18:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> Not #ubuntustudio-support.
[18:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> Or if you want to use Matrix, https://matrix.to/#/!xmgKQfBvHjTMsDGIBb:matrix.org?via=matrix.org&via=riotchat.de
[18:48] <Barry[m]> yes yes... I don't mean "downstream" as in source code, but rather applications running in userland which read that var
[18:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> freenode_bjmuld[m]: You're the first person to report qt issues. We've already solved the problem. The ubuntustudio variable doesn't affect it.
[18:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> Because XDG sees xfce, not the DESKTOP_SESSION variable.