[17:58] hello room. after fighting with desktop themes and qt applications, [this article](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_look_for_Qt_and_GTK_applications#Using_a_GTK_icon_theme_in_Qt_apps) suggests that for gtk/qt compatibility the `DESKTOP_SESSION` env var should be set to `gnome`... [17:58] in U.S., it is set to `ubuntustudio` which I'm thinking could be throwing off qt. thoughts ??? [18:33] The new gnome way of doing things makes using lots of windows a pain. [18:34] Gnome tends to steal the top bar and force it's own theme on users if they want it or not [18:34] One of the worst things this does, is make it quite hard to visually see which window has focus [18:36] QT/xfce styles of doing tings retains the title bar decoration and allows a user to make the focused window have a contrasting colour. Gnome does not. [18:44] !support | freenode_bjmuld[m] [18:44] freenode_bjmuld[m]: This is the Ubuntu Studio development channel. Our official support channel is on #ubuntustudio. Also see http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=335 [18:44] yes, yes, I know [18:44] but I don't need support, per se [18:45] Then what are you trying to accomplish? This issue is not present in 19.10 and we can't backport anything like that to 18.04 without causing errors. [18:45] 19.10 includes qt5ct by default. [18:45] just wanted to ask the devs about whether introducing a new DESKTOP_SESSION could confuse downstream users of that var [18:46] won't downstream apps inherit icons and themes based on this var? [18:46] freenode_bjmuld[m]: All of the devs are in #ubuntustudio-support. That's why it exists. This is for development collaboration only. [18:46] 10-5 [18:46] lol [18:46] freenode_bjmuld[m]: That's not how that works. And downstream? We don't have downstream. [18:46] 10-4! [18:47] Er... #ubuntustudio. [18:47] Not #ubuntustudio-support. [18:47] Or if you want to use Matrix, https://matrix.to/#/!xmgKQfBvHjTMsDGIBb:matrix.org?via=matrix.org&via=riotchat.de [18:48] yes yes... I don't mean "downstream" as in source code, but rather applications running in userland which read that var [18:48] freenode_bjmuld[m]: You're the first person to report qt issues. We've already solved the problem. The ubuntustudio variable doesn't affect it. [18:48] Because XDG sees xfce, not the DESKTOP_SESSION variable.