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lubotMateusz Konieczny was added by: Mateusz Konieczny10:27
lubot<Mateusz Konieczny> How can I remove trash icon from desktop on 19.10? … Deleting it adds item to the trash, but is instantly restored. … I tried googling but I found nothing relevant.10:28
lubot<Mateusz Konieczny> Also for 19.10: how can I type a proper WiFi password after typing a mistaken one? … I made a mistake (because it is no longer possible to see password as you type it) and I failed to find a way to change it. … I also tried googling without results.10:30
lubot<Mateusz Konieczny> On the good side, Windows+d shortcut to show desktop works out of the box.10:31
lubot<Mateusz Konieczny> And the third question for 19.10 -how can I get rid of USA flag visible after booting (layout drop-down)?10:33
lubot<Mateusz Konieczny> (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/KWt08dv.jpg10:34
lubot<kc2bez> Mateusz the trash icon can be removed by right clicking on the desktop, select desktop preferences, under the advanced tab.11:03
lubot<Mateusz Konieczny> Thanks!11:03
guiverc@Mateusz  https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.1/3.1.5/nm-tray.html - can't you use Edit connections to edit your wireless password (allowing you to correct error; I've done it I'm sure but don't have wireless on this box)11:11
lubot<kc2bez> As far as the flag, you would have to change the theme for sddm. I haven't looked at that part of the configuration myself. You may want to check out our manual page for sddm though: https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.1/3.1.9/sddm_configuration.html11:11
* guiverc is lost with US flag, I've never noticed an aussie flag11:13
lubot<kc2bez> The flag drop-down refers to keyboard layout.11:14
guivercThanks, I see a "au"11:15
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lubot<roheve> you can remove the flag icon by renaming (or deleting) the flags folder somwhere in the sddm setting folder structure. I am unsure where exactly (and do not have that installation anymore). I did not find a way to change it by slightly modifing the theme, but that would be an option too, if you can find it.16:54
lubot<heysoundude> By my guestimation, 20.04 is only a dozen or so weeks away. Is anyone (non-dev) running it on their daily driver?17:23
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wxl@heysoundude i know someone on the list was saying they did; in general i wouldn't recommend it with any development release, especially early on17:52
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tbshello, is here to talk about lubuntu but not for getting help?19:04
lubot<teward001> this channel is the support channel19:04
lubot<teward001> not the general discussion channel19:04
tbsahh, i wanted to write ths to offtopic...19:04
lubot<teward001> #lubuntu-offtopic is what you're after then19:05
lubot<teward001> (on the IRC side of things)19:05
bwew253tgzwhbdhello20:24
wxlhow can we help?20:25
bwew253tgzwhbdi installed lubuntu desktop on ubuntu with sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop and the problem is when i search in panel its very laggy its not on fedora but on tje ubuntu, can someone help? its very annoying for example i write chromium and i neednto wait 4 seconds to see chromium in panel cuz its so laggy20:25
wxlwhich version?20:26
bwew253tgzwhbd19.10 newest lxqt20:26
wxlone sec20:26
bwew253tgzwhbdwith openbox and this arc one20:26
wxlalso: why not just use lubuntu?20:28
bwew253tgzwhbdi think i one time tried installing lubuntu but i used the spyware site lubuntu.net and couldnnt boot then so inused ubuntu since then20:29
lubot<teward001> lubuntu.net isn't the official resource20:29
lubot<teward001> lubuntu.me is the official site20:29
wxlwell, there's a simple solution to that: use the actual website, lubuntu.me20:29
bwew253tgzwhbdyes its spyware i wrote in duckduckgo or so lubuntu and it showed me the fake20:29
lubot<teward001> we don't control lubuntu.net and it's not the official site - hasn't been for a long time20:29
wxli will tell you that the panel is VERY snappy in lubuntu20:30
lubot<teward001> ^ that20:31
lubot<teward001> even on my ancient HP Netbook i was testing it on from 2009 :P20:31
wxli'm testing it on a vm that is strained to 1gb ram20:31
bwew253tgzwhbdi have lot of .desktops but idk if its the reason20:32
wxlugh windows is such a resource hog20:32
wxli mean ubuntu20:32
wxl:O20:32
wxlfreudian slip??????20:32
lubot<teward001> *drags wxl out into the void*20:32
lubot<teward001> (disclaimer: wxl and I are good friends, this is me just 'joking' with them)20:33
lubot<teward001> but yeah, Lubuntu can eat a lot of resources out of the box20:33
wxlUBUNTU YOU MEAN!20:33
bwew253tgzwhbdyes ubuntu is hard spyware preinstalling snap and cant be fully purged its awesome20:33
* wxl slaps @teward00120:33
lubot<teward001> :P20:33
lubot<teward001> let's save the 'spyware or not' discussions for elsewhere please20:34
wxlwe have snapd installed by default (we have to) but there's no core snap installed so it's completely inactive20:34
bwew253tgzwhbddoes lubuntu preinstall snap20:34
lubot<teward001> because that's a whole other discussin20:34
lubot<teward001> discussion*20:34
bwew253tgzwhbdif i write sudo apt install chromium for eyample does it install the shit one from snap or the original where i can use flags20:34
wxlkeep the language under wraps20:35
wxlapt is for debian packages, snap is for snaps20:35
wxlyou can't install debian packages with snap nor can you install snaps with apt20:35
bwew253tgzwhbdubuntu installs from snap20:35
wxloh well, there you go20:35
wxlthe debian package probably has a trigger that makes it install the snap20:36
lubot<teward001> which has been the case since at least the 19.04 cycle I believe, because of my having to debug server packages failing their build tests20:37
lubot<teward001> (that's a whole unrelated discussion but it's something i noticed early on in the testings)20:37
bwew253tgzwhbdso why is it lagging how can i reinstall lxqt panel20:37
bwew253tgzwhbdmaybe it would fix it idk20:37
wxli would just install lubuntu20:37
lubot<teward001> Chances are the issue you're seeing is because installing ubuntu then installing Lubuntu on top of that is going to keep the resource-hog stuff from Ubuntu still on-system20:39
bwew253tgzwhbdu have ubuntu in vm? how mucj cpu is xorg using20:39
lubot<teward001> which can lead to slowdowns like you're seeing.20:39
lubot<teward001> and no, wxl has Lubuntu in a VM20:39
bwew253tgzwhbdwhen i play games and i use top it shows sometimesn10% xorg cpu ??? evennwitj openbox desktop environment20:39
wxlthen just use lubuntu20:40
bwew253tgzwhbdwould it fix that?20:40
wxlworks here for me20:40
bwew253tgzwhbdi mean the cpu usage of xorg20:40
bwew253tgzwhbdi use lightdm but mynxorg is using lot of cpu20:41
lubot<teward001> the CPU usage of the graphics backend is going to be less of an issue than the RAM consumption of the system20:41
lubot<teward001> since CPU usage fluctuates depending on what you're doing20:41
bwew253tgzwhbdand other question can i install kernels from https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=M;O=A20:42
bwew253tgzwhbdcan u test it for me very important i need newest kernel always20:42
wxlcurrently xorg is running with 0%.20:45
bwew253tgzwhbdyes but when i use wine games its judt using 10% thenndrops to 3% for some reason20:46
wxli mean cpu usage does change over time20:46
wxldepending on what you're doing20:46
bwew253tgzwhbdmaybe the game is mining bitcoins20:47
wxlhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds20:48
bwew253tgzwhbdis amd processor better zhan intel ? my friend said because intel has lot of backdoors it reduces performance is it true20:49
bwew253tgzwhbdis lubuntu ligthweighter than lxle20:50
wxllxle is doomed because lxde is doomed20:50
tbs:D20:51
tbsabout that topic, i have waited lubuntu would be lighter than this actoally, at least %80 ram usage of current or less20:52
tbsi have 4 gb ram, at start it uses 11-12 which xfce may see, so i have waited most %10 or less for lubuntu20:53
tbsdebian xfce and mint xfce start with %12-1320:55
tbsfor my 4gb ram20:55
bwew253tgzwhbddebian xfce is much lightweighter tjan ubuntu without desktop imo20:55
wxlxfce would be the next lightest desktop environment20:56
tbslike i said it uses %12, so not lighter than ubuntu without desktop20:56
wxlubuntu without desktop... uhhh... doesn't have a desktop environment20:56
bwew253tgzwhbdi hate xfce some streams or sounds are by default very quiet and xfce only hasb100% maximum atleast with fn keys20:57
tbsi left xfce cuz of desktop icon configuring...20:57
tbsi couldnt find a way to arrange them according to date, at any xfce20:58
tbsfor guys like me, if we work with files at pc, seing items at desktop is importand, not at file manager20:59
bwew253tgzwhbdis cinnamon more light than gnome21:00
wxldon't know21:00
tbsthey are smilar21:01
tbsi need to leave at least 1gb of 4gb ram to them or more21:02
tbsfor example at start cinnamon uses about 800mb but after that no matter what i do, if i do something it just continue with 1 or 1.1 gb usage21:03
tbssmilar for deeping21:03
tbskde s lighter than 3 of these21:04
tbsxfce is ligher than 4 of these21:04
bwew253tgzwhbdis lubuntu somehow more secure tjan ubuntu gnome?;21:06
tbslxqt s lighter than xfce about %10 which means in 4gb ram it will be ligher about 50mb, so ligher than 5 of them21:07
wxllubuntu is ubuntu21:07
tbsbut for lubuntu i also feel like it uses my harddisk lighter, i cant identify it but that s what i think, i have not good hdd about speed21:08
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