 ovenwerks that is a good point. people wouldn't swap it upside down or write side up back and forth but many tablets are designed to usable upside down for people who use their left hands
[15:36] <OvenWerks> Lots of snow here...anything addressed to me in the last 12 to 18 hours I don't have backcroll.... my main computer did not reboot after power out, so I have no access to a browser either :P
[15:40] <OvenWerks> wonko: I looked at the python json lib tools and got totally lost. It looks even harder to use than what we have.
[15:40] <OvenWerks> wonko: however, the tablet stuff I am working might be easier to do that way.
[15:47] <OvenWerks> wonko: So far I have been able to store a list as space separated strings but in the long run I would need to do [audio_dev], number, and then do 1_pamarm_a 1_param_b 2_param_a 2_param_b
[15:49] <OvenWerks> wonko: being able to do Audio { Devices [device_1, parmams], [device_2,params] would be nice
[15:49] <OvenWerks> wonko: then being able to import each device as a list or list of lists would be great
[15:58] <OvenWerks> wonko: anyway, with no computer, I won't be doing any work on -controls ( Eickmeyer -installer either) till I get another PS. feel free to pull master and convert the config to json if that will make things easier
[16:01] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: No worries. As I look at the backscroll, there was only one from @azbulutlu: "ovenwerks that is a good point. people wouldn't swap it upside down or write side up back and forth but many tablets are designed to usable upside down for people who use their left hands"
[16:05] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I have the left overs of my old P4 sitting here I will have to see if there is a PS in there for testing, I don't know if it has the power for the i5 or not.
[16:06] <OvenWerks> but I will order a new one anyway.
[16:06] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Yeah, that's rolling the dice. I'd order a new one, they're relatively inexpensive. At least it's just the PS.
[16:06] <OvenWerks> Seems to be
[16:07] <OvenWerks> no ps fan even
[16:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah, that's usually an indicator that the power outage zapped your PS. Hopefully that's all it is.
 with any luck maybe power unit is only thing that got damaged?
[16:36] <OvenWerks> @azbulutlu: I hope so.
[16:44] <OvenWerks> thats wierd, I can get out but no other computer in the house can... maybe reboot
[17:27] <wonko> OvenWerks: Yeah, I have some other shit to deal with that's going to eat up the rest of this week but I'll try to get to that next week. Not sure what you were trying to do there though, you json.load() the file into a dict. It's really that simple. :)
[17:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> wonko: Language, man. BTW, if I haven't said it lately, thanks for all you're doing. :)
[17:31] <wonko> Sorry, I'll watch myself. No problem. Glad to help!
[17:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> If it was up to me, I wouldn't have an issue with the language, but the Ubuntu IRC Guidelines apply. :)
[17:37] <wonko> Yeah, so I'll be good then. :-P
[17:46]  * OvenWerks ordered a new case with PS. That gives me more front panel USB ports that are actually wired for USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 as well as audio jacks that are HDA rather than AC97  ;)
[17:47] <OvenWerks> The case is almost free at $40 CAD
[17:48] <OvenWerks> It is the same case I used for my son's computer too, so I know it is a reasonable case.
[17:50] <OvenWerks> wonko: no problem.
[17:52] <wonko> OvenWerks: $40 is a good price
[17:53] <OvenWerks> Ya, that is probably about $30 USD
[18:23] <OvenWerks> They say 10 days :(
[18:56] <wonko> Boo!
[18:56] <wonko> I really need to get my workstation sold so I can build a new desktop
 out of curiosity what time is the feature freeze for 20.04? it looks like computer issues are on global forecast today so I am not sure I will get to the backdrops this weekend. :/
 if anyone remembers off the top of their head that is...
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule
 Feature Freeze is Feb. 24
 Feb 27*
 @azbulutlu
 thanks very much @teward001
 yep.