| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:34 |
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| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 06:35 |
| duflu | (#firstpost) | 06:35 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu :) | 06:37 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:00 |
| jibel | Bonjour à tous | 07:02 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks and jibel | 07:03 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks & jibel | 07:04 |
| didrocks | hey jibel, duflu, oSoMoN | 07:08 |
| pieq | Hi everyone | 07:58 |
| didrocks | salut pieq | 07:59 |
| pieq | I installed focal this morning on a testing laptop and I noticed the install process UX has changed a little | 08:00 |
| jibel | pieq, bonjour | 08:01 |
| pieq | and the option to encrypt the partition is hidden now... so by default, if the user clicks Next, the system is installed without any kind of disk encryption | 08:01 |
| jibel | pieq, the partitioning page? | 08:01 |
| pieq | it's alreayd like this in 18.04, but the option to encrypt is visible from the screen, so I figure it's more "findable" by users | 08:01 |
| jibel | pieq, yes, it's on purpose and it's one of the concerrn that have been raised with this change | 08:01 |
| pieq | jibel, the page where you're asked if you want to "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" | 08:01 |
| pieq | OK | 08:01 |
| pieq | I reckon there are many different installation scenarios for users | 08:02 |
| pieq | but for someone installing Ubuntu on a laptop without any other partitions, it makes sense to have the disk encryption option available "easily" (if not by default) | 08:02 |
| jibel | pieq, we probably need to move back everything from a advanced dialog to the main page but then it adds lot of data to the page especially when you have a system already installed | 08:04 |
| pieq | jibel, yes, that's the kind of tricky thing. I was testing on a laptop that had no dual boot or weird stuff | 08:05 |
| pieq | I could spend more time investigating this, but I don't have much time now | 08:05 |
| seb128 | gooood morning desktopers! happy friday | 08:16 |
| didrocks | happy Friday seb128 | 08:29 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, happy friday! how are you? | 08:29 |
| duflu | Morning seb128. How goes? | 08:31 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, okish, I've a cold/I'm coughing for a few days seems a bit worth today, I feel a bit like if I had fever with my skin by sensitive | 08:32 |
| seb128 | I'm going to try to get it easy, hopefully I'm feeling better to fly to CapeTown tomorrow | 08:33 |
| duflu | :( | 08:33 |
| seb128 | during my previous trip there I had over 39°C fever and that was no fun at all | 08:33 |
| seb128 | hopefully not a second time | 08:33 |
| seb128 | duflu, how is it going for you? | 08:33 |
| seb128 | ready for the we? :) | 08:34 |
| duflu | seb128, going OK though gnome-shell is always more complex than you think... | 08:34 |
| duflu | The weekend will come when I'm ready | 08:34 |
| didrocks | seb128: I’m fine, thanks, and you? | 08:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks, cf backlog :) | 08:41 |
| didrocks | good luck! :) | 08:57 |
| Wimpress | Morning o/ | 09:01 |
| Wimpress | Sorry to hear you feeling under the weather seb128 :-( | 09:02 |
| seb128 | hey Wimpress! how are you? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, I wil take it easy today, hopefully I feel better by tomorrow | 09:02 |
| Wimpress | seb128: Yes, best to rest up. | 09:02 |
| Wimpress | All good here. | 09:03 |
| Laney | morning | 09:03 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 09:03 |
| Laney | yeah I'm alright | 09:03 |
| Wimpress | duflu: I noticed the CSD windows and non-CSD window have a different size window shadow. | 09:04 |
| Laney | are you allergic to Cape Town seb128? | 09:04 |
| duflu | Morning Wimpress and Laney | 09:04 |
| Wimpress | A curiosity that caught me out while making screenshots for the sideshow last night. | 09:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, I might be? | 09:04 |
| Wimpress | Do you know why this might be duflu? | 09:05 |
| duflu | Wimpress, interesting. Though I have argued for a long time that CSD should get server side shadows, I think I lost that argument. That means it is expected -- different code rendering it | 09:05 |
| duflu | You would need to modify all toolkits to match your theme | 09:05 |
| Wimpress | Yeah. I can't see why the inconsistency would be required, from a technical point of view. | 09:05 |
| duflu | Which code exactly I don't know | 09:06 |
| duflu | This is partly why I argued for years we shouldn't be in this situation | 09:06 |
| Wimpress | I wrote a script to resize, cature and scale windows at exactly the right sizes for including in the installer slideshow. | 09:07 |
| duflu | I feel shadows should not be seen as part of the window, but an artefact of the desktop | 09:07 |
| Wimpress | That difference between CSD and non-CSD had me scratching my head for a few minutes, until a realised what was going on. | 09:07 |
| Laney | moin duflu | 09:07 |
| seb128 | brb, going back to my desk now | 09:11 |
| didrocks | good morning Wimpress ! | 09:16 |
| duflu | Wimpress, hopefully you're only talking about non-Gnome apps. We should be able to make Gnome ones consistent between CSD (Xwayland) and SSD (Xorg) | 09:19 |
| duflu | I mean CSD (Wayland) | 09:20 |
| Wimpress | Yeah, I notice the difference with Shotwell, Firefox and LibreOffice. | 09:25 |
| duflu | Wimpress, if apps are running via X11, including Xwayland, then we have fairly central control over the shadow rendering | 09:37 |
| Wimpress | I am running on X11. | 09:38 |
| duflu | And if you configure them to use system titlebars etc, not app-level CSD | 09:38 |
| Wimpress | When you say configure, you mean a programmatic change to not use CSD? | 09:40 |
| duflu | Yes, like it's a setting in Chrome | 09:40 |
| Wimpress | Right. | 09:40 |
| duflu | Maybe it is in Firefox? | 09:40 |
| Wimpress | It is. But bugs. | 09:40 |
| Wimpress | Curved window corners grow ears. | 09:40 |
| seb128 | the arm builders seem unhappy, between that and ffi I think I just give up for this week and see if things automagically sort out during the w.e | 09:46 |
| seb128 | also wth with i386 failing to install build-essential:amd64 :/ | 09:47 |
| duflu | Wimpress, I'm already confusing myself so if you encounter the problem in release please remember to open a bug | 09:48 |
| oSoMoN | Wimpress, is this bug #1828728 (for firefox) ? | 09:49 |
| ubot5 | bug 1828728 in Mozilla Firefox "White corners when CSD is enabled on Firefox under X11" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828728 | 09:49 |
| duflu | Yes I think that's it | 09:51 |
| Wimpress | didrocks: I've prepared a branch for ubiquity-slideshow that implements the new Yaru design and updates screenshots for 20.04. | 11:49 |
| Wimpress | I've proposed for merging, but not update debian/changelog. Should I? | 11:50 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: yes. feel free to update the changelog (but keep it UNRELEASED instead of focal' | 12:02 |
| Wimpress | OK | 12:45 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers! | 15:18 |
| didrocks | good morning hellsworth! | 15:18 |
| hellsworth | hi there didrocks ! happy friday :) | 15:20 |
| didrocks | thx! you too | 15:21 |
| oSoMoN | good morning hellsworth | 15:22 |
| oSoMoN | I need a core dev for a trivial code review: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/software-properties/+git/software-properties/+merge/377770 | 15:23 |
| hellsworth | looks good oSoMoN ! | 15:27 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: merged and pushed. Do you think that worth a release or we will have other fixes later on? | 15:58 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, thanks! there'll definitely be other changes before feature freeze, so no need to do a release now | 15:59 |
| didrocks | ack :) | 16:00 |
| hellsworth | oSoMoN: there's a chromium snap question in #snapcraft that maybe you know the answer to: "Hi, I had the cromium snap on my other computer. I reinstalled all my programms on a new computer. I'm trying to get my bookmarks and settings to the chromium on my new computer. Befor snap it was something like .config/chromium or .local/share/chromium (can't remeber exatcly). What do I have to copy | 16:08 |
| hellsworth | to my new computer to get all my chromium settings?" | 16:08 |
| oSoMoN | hellsworth, thanks, I answered the question there | 16:11 |
| hellsworth | thanks oSoMoN ! | 16:27 |
| oSoMoN | I'm calling it a week, have a good week-end everyone! | 17:27 |
| Wimpress | hellsworth: o/ | 18:06 |
| hellsworth | hi Wimpress :) | 21:03 |
| hellsworth | sorry i was out for an appt and lunch | 21:03 |
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