[21:20] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: right... sorry
[21:20] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Also, when you get your new PS, would you mind testing latency with the generic kernel? There are a number of show-stoppers with the lowlatency kernel that have been reported that don't occur with the generic kernel.
[21:20] <OvenWerks> I have to check my autojack fix first.
[21:21] <OvenWerks> generic should work fine at 1024 :)
[21:21] <OvenWerks> To be honest that is what I run most of the time
[21:22] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ah. Well, then why are we even shipping the lowlatency kernel anymore?
[21:22] <OvenWerks> with proper monitoring 1024 or higher is fine for recording.
[21:22] <OvenWerks> if using the computer as a guitar effect or softsynth it is needed
[21:23] <OvenWerks> for guitar effects I find 128 is maximum I am comfortable with
[21:23] <OvenWerks> I can handle 256 for softsynth
[21:24] <OvenWerks> but use 64 or 32 by preference for guitar effects like guitarix
[21:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> Well, sure, but I'm wondering if the same can be done with the generic kernel. I've been noticing issues with my Nvidia computer and the lowlatency kernel, but we also have people having locking issues when using AMD hardware that don't exist with generic.
[21:24] <OvenWerks> wow. wonder what liquorix does that is different
[21:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> (and the kernel team has been helping very little with fixing those issues)
[21:25] <OvenWerks> that is historical
[21:25] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah, they seem uninterested, so it's an uphill battle.
[21:25] <OvenWerks> originally Studio got the lowlatency kernel running and the k team took it over once it was going
[21:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah, but I'm noticing the .diff between the generic and lowlatency kernels getting bigger.
[21:26] <OvenWerks> in other words we can make a change to what LL kernel is and pass it to them they will make the change, but they do not have the resources to actually fix it.
[21:27] <Eickmeyer[m]> Unfortunately, I don't know enough about kernel configs to do anything about it.
[21:27] <OvenWerks> remeber also that the nvidia driver is a blob
[21:27] <OvenWerks> same here
[21:27] <Eickmeyer[m]> Which is why, with the lowlatency optimizations hitting the kernel, if we should even bother anymore.
[21:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> Rather, I'm wondering if we should even bother anymore.
[21:29] <OvenWerks> we would need a wiki (unofficial maybe) that gives directions for getting liquoix then.
[21:30] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: without ll or rt we loose credibility as an audio distro
[21:31] <Eickmeyer[m]> Well, that's because people are stuck in the past where you had to have the patches in the kernel, which hasn't been the case since 2.6, and Torvalds already approved the lowlatency patch, so it should all be in the generic kernel by now.
[21:33] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: the generic kernel if started with the right comandline switches becomes lowlatency. I will (when I have time) play with kernel switchs to see if I can make any difference that way. My son's box has an nvidia card and so far has had no problems.
[21:34] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: do we have documentation on the differences from generic to ll?
[21:34] <OvenWerks> Maybe we just need to change one of them
[21:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: I did a .diff a while ago, and the diff is pretty big anymore. I might be able to do another one.
[21:35] <OvenWerks> any way, I have to go for a bit and get my Yf to work.
[21:35] <OvenWerks> maybe the diff is outdated then
[21:35] <OvenWerks> I think the original diff was against a 3.* series kernel.
[21:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> Probably. I'll try to generate a config diff now.
[21:36] <OvenWerks> When I get back I will have use of my Yf's computer where I started work on autojack.
[21:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Sounds good. Here's the diff: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4SRy8WjpXN/