[18:34] <ShortAce> hey guys, is anyone using a firewire audio interface on ubuntu studio here? I have the Edirol FA-101: Should there be a folder called /dev/fw* ? My FireWire is connected but there is not such a folder
[18:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> ShortAce: The Linux kernel has been having regressions in ALSA with FireWire audio devices to the point where, for 20.04 LTS, we're considering dropping support since those devices tend to be very old, which explains why the code in ALSA/the kernel isn't being updated.
[18:37] <Eickmeyer[m]> PCI and USB is the way to go anymore.
[18:38] <ShortAce> Yes but I read it should be supported via ffado
[18:39] <Eickmeyer[m]> ShortAce: In order to do that, ALSA Firewire has to be blacklisted first. I'm not sure how to do that.
[18:39] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks:
[18:39] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: You around? You might have more familiarity than me on this one.
[18:41] <Eickmeyer[m]> ShortAce: Look here for ffado related stuff. http://ffado.org/
[18:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> ShortAce: The last documented instance of FFADO working with that device was in 2013. It's now 7 years later, so it may have been lost to bitrot.
[18:43] <ShortAce> Well okay, thanks!
[18:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> ShortAce: I realie the monetary investment in FireWire devices was huge at the time, but I'd consider updating to more current hardware.
[18:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> More current audio interfaces tend to be a much lower investment than the FireWire interfaqces of yore.
[18:51] <ShortAce> I'll give blacklisting a trie
[18:51] <ShortAce> try*
[21:00] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I have not had any luck getting a fw device to show up.
[21:03] <OvenWerks>  The old ffado stack is not compiled into the kernel by default and so merely blacklisting new modules will not work. I am looking for an old iso for either us or avlinux known to work with this device and see if I can trace from that end... or at least make sure my hw is all ok.
[21:04]  * OvenWerks needs a power supply first of course
[21:06] <OvenWerks> I may even try an old P4 mb with pci fw card.
[21:09] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: basically either the fw device just works as an ALSA device or not at all... it depends on the device and fw interface I guess. Mine doesn't work any which way so far.
[21:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Yeah, my advice has been to get a new interface as even FFADO's compatibility page is unclear since it's 7 years since that page was even updated.
[21:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm wondering if we should drop the FFADO stack altogether.
[21:13] <OvenWerks> For those who it works for, it should be left in... but controls should probably not allow the FW backend
[21:14] <Eickmeyer[m]> Agreed. Official support from our end is an issue though.
[21:14] <OvenWerks> For those who it works for, it should be left in... but controls should probably not allow the FW backend
[21:14] <OvenWerks> (at least until I can get it working)
[21:14] <Eickmeyer[m]> OK
[21:15] <Eickmeyer[m]> Do you have your new PS yet?
[21:16] <OvenWerks> So basically if a user has a devic ethat shows up as an alsa device, there is no problem but if it needs to use ffado we can't help at this time.
[21:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok, I'll see if we can do something.
[21:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> !ffado
[21:17] <OvenWerks> it has been shipped but is supposed to take 10 days.
[21:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok.
[21:17] <OvenWerks> it has left Ontario
[21:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> !ffado is reply FFADO is a firewire driver for certain Firewire audio interfaces. It is incompabible with the Linux kernel included in Ubuntu at this time.
[21:18] <OvenWerks> I am working on the bug I told you about... when I have confirmed it works here, I will paste the new autojack file and you can push it.
[21:19] <OvenWerks> Then I will remove FW from the glade file (or you can) and that can be pushed
[21:19] <Eickmeyer[m]> Go ahead and paste it in -devel (as we should be talking in there right now)
[21:20] <OvenWerks> we should make a bug for fw not working.