[03:37] <Kapitan> hi, why 19.04 recognized my wifi (b43) and 19.10 does not recognize it? btw, I installed it from net install via ethernet cable, maybe I have to run some command to detect wifi?
[03:38] <Kapitan> should I downgrade kernel?
[03:45] <guiverc> Kapitan, I wouldn't downgrade kernel (19.04's kernel reaches EOL on Thursday), https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide is very generic and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx is likely more specific to your situation
[03:54] <Kapitan> thanks. But it doesn't solve it. It strange lspci doesn't show my wifi adapter at all, while on 19.04 it worked out of the box
[03:54] <Kapitan> could this be because I installed from ubuntu netboot mini.iso, using not wifi, but cable?
[04:46] <tbs> hello, there s some options at screensaver that not installed, how can i install them?
[04:52] <guiverc> tbs, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=xscreensaver shows many, eg. -gl ones, -bsod I like,  some I don't like as much (collage, dizzy)...
[04:53] <guiverc> tbs, sudo apt install xscreensa<TAB><TAB> to autocomplete or use a package manager (muon if LXQt, synaptic/aptitude if LXDE.. I'm assuming alot so let me know if you can't use what I provided
[04:56] <tbs> guiverc: ther appaers some options when i search for xscreensaver at muon, 2 of them installed, which ones i should install?
[04:58] <guiverc> tbs, i have installed (reading from muon) xscreensaver xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-data-extra xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-extra   (I'm not a fan of dizzy, webcollage thus not installed)
[05:00] <guiverc> I also have xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod  (sorry if I made typos)
[05:00] <tbs> guiverc: i want to try all, there s some libs they need, how can i be sure those libs are not gtk?
[05:02] <guiverc> they are X (x11) screensavers ; also https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/xscreensaver-gl  doesn't show any GTK libs that I see for example
[05:02] <guiverc> X11/wayland are sort of a step higher/lower than GTK/Qt in software stack
[05:03] <tbs> when i install any app, how can i be sure it doesnt need gtk lib, should i check pages like this?
[05:05] <guiverc> tbs, you can look via web like I did (mainly for pasting purposes), but also for example, search in muon for LEAFPAD (LXDE editor thus GTK2) - click Dependencies and you'll note MUON tells you it DEPENDS libgtk2.0-0 > 2.10.0  (ie. gtk2 dependency)
[05:07] <guiverc> contrast the DEPENDENCIES tab with say `featherpad` (editor Lubuntu with LXQt uses) and you'll note many libqt5 libraries are required...
[05:08] <guiverc> a modern GTK3 app is `liferea` (I use it) where in MUON again in Dependencies tab it depends on libgtk-3-0 >= 3.11.5; ie. it's a modern Gnome/GTK3 app thus needs a 3...
[05:09] <tbs> i dont see any result when i search leafpad
[05:09] <guiverc> Me, I usually install apps via terminal, so when I enter `sudo apt install liferea` I read what it wants to install & decide myself then...  - what release are you on?
[05:10] <tbs> 19.10
[05:11] <guiverc> okay sorry, bad example - it was last available 18.04 - my bad
[05:12] <tbs> it s okay, i just try to learn, i understand what u mean already
[05:13] <tbs> another question, how can i use pcmanfm as a root?
[05:14] <guiverc> I don't think it's a good idea (think it's risky & bad), but `sudo pcmanfm-qt` works if you really need to... it can create problems o I'd avoid if where possible..
[05:15] <kc2bez> you can also "run as administrator" from the tools menu
[05:16] <tbs> what i want is addin new apps to start up, but i always forget terminal commands to copy paste
[05:16] <guiverc> what kc2bez says will be MUCH safer
[05:17] <tbs> found finally, thanks guys^^
[05:19] <tbs> yday i installed android studio, i guess it added some gtk lib to startup, i uninstalled it but it seems its not clean, what can i do?
[05:20] <guiverc> `sudo apt autoremove`  (remove packages that were auto installed to satisfy...)
[05:21]  * guiverc apologizes if you wanted gui way; I'd use term
[05:21] <tbs> no need to talk like that, pls
[05:22] <tbs> im getting help here for free:)
[05:23]  * guiverc is sad leafpad is going going gone... it's the editor who's name I remember; why it was my first example...  (I have it installed from years ago so it showed in my searches)
 test
[07:59] <guiverc> test is seen
 first time trying telegram
[08:00]  * guiverc suspected as such..
 it doesnt want to be installed to my mobilephone but i already dont use much mobilephone
[08:02] <guiverc> I'm not a fan of the mobile app; it seems to avoid using wifi on my phone using roaming-data for me, so I avoid it..
 do u guys sure this s a privaty-secure app?
 at least at first step it wants my phone number
[08:06] <clad> phone number register is really silly
[08:06] <guiverc> in the end it's your decision ... https://telegram.org/privacy  (I don't trust my samsung phone anyway! so don't trust apps on it)
[08:07] <guiverc> (at least not data I consider private, financial etc... re: phone trust)
[08:09] <clad> do we have a matrix relay?
 i dont consider my phone as private but things are not same when data collecting of a group that can be used as statistic
[08:36] <JohnDoe_71Rus> phone number for register is very bad idea
 "telegram desktop" app has another app's icon at menu>internet, how to fix it
[11:37] <bwew253tgzwhbd> Hello
[11:38]  * bwew253tgzwhbd sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/hKkZGyyudoppluwucKhPzuxl >
[11:44] <guiverc> bwew253tgzwhbd, maybe you could try a `sleep` prior to echo
 i tried kwin and kwin_x11. While using kwin after restart, my cpu usage was high, i cant use pc like that. After setting kwin_x11  and restrart this time my left side panel didnt work, it s auto hidden by deafult, it didnt appaer. After returning openbox everything is fine. I just wondered what are they for, what is benefit if i use them.
[13:39] <diogenes_> tbs, kwin is the window manager for kde.
[16:40] <vevan> Привет, друзья!
[16:57] <aarg> hi all
 hi
 Namaste!
 Hi ! Does anyone have a Asus laptop with combo audio jack (mic and headphone)? How do we get the jack to work for both at the same time? When I choose external mic the headphone stops working and vice versa. Tried some  suggestions available on the internet (ex. overriding PINs with hadjackretasker ) but no luck...
[18:39] <luciferian> hi!
[20:56] <johnny_> Hi.
[20:57] <wxl> heyo
[20:57] <johnny_> Ist dieser Chat auf Deutsch oder Englisch?
[20:57] <c|oneman> English, I think
[20:58] <johnny_> ok.
[20:58] <wxl> !de