[00:00] <blackhole> akemhp, I am using 3.5 mm to connect
[00:01] <akemhp> blackhole, When you launch pavucontrol in the "Recording" tab try to check the device you may be able to change in to something like "built-in analog stereo" or whatever and under that you should see a record level that will change while you speak on the mic;
[00:01] <akemhp> blackhole, Is it a laptop?
[00:01] <blackhole> akemhp, no
[00:02] <blackhole> akemhp, I am using this online tool to test it
[00:02] <blackhole> https://online-voice-recorder.com/
[00:03] <Kon-> blackhole: I suggest using Audacity to test the mic
[00:03] <akemhp> blackhole, I would double check that the mic works on another device, then double check it's plug on the correct connector. You can play sounds normaly on your computer right?
[00:05] <akemhp> Yeah, don't use a website to test it in first place. Pavucontrol and Audacity, in Audacity you click Edit>Preferences, Devices> Recording Device...
[00:06] <akemhp> You may change the host interface too...But Alsa should be fine.
[00:06] <blackhole> akemhp, pavucontrol, shows front microphone (plugged in), I also see stream in recording tab with built in audio analog setero selected
[00:06] <blackhole> trying Audacity now..
[00:07] <akemhp> blackhole, Don't you see signal change in pavucontrol when you tap the microphone? a blue line from left to right popping up, just under "Silence 100% ..."
[00:09] <blackhole> akemhp, this is how it looks -> https://imgur.com/a/mxWTpQl, the bottom blue bar slightly is moving...
[00:10] <akemhp> blackhole, Ok! this should be the microphone, try to tap the microphone it should move even more.
[00:10] <akemhp> Or speak loudly in front of it...
[00:13] <blackhole> akemhp, If i move upper blue bar, some hissing sound gets recorded ... here is mp3 file https://drive.google.com/open?id=149EYZkfeuy9YJxpjiJJJqMA_XBzOYFgW
[00:14] <blackhole> akemhp, same results with audacity as well
[00:15] <pragmaticenigma> Goji, Is this on a fresh install, can you afford to lose all your data on the encrypted drive?
[00:16] <akemhp> blackhole, Try to close all apps that could be using the microphone and especially chrome, and try again in pavucontrol.
[00:16] <akemhp> blackhole, You shouldn't touch the upper blue bar, leave it at 100%.
[00:17] <Goji> @pragmaticenigma yes it wouldn't be a big deal if I needed to format. This was actually a fresh install to test my script to install all the apps I use.
[00:17] <Goji> But it would still be nice to salvage.
[00:21] <akemhp> blackhole, Hm...It may not works with audacity either.
[00:22] <blackhole> hmm
[00:22] <akemhp> blackhole, You can try your website with firefox too, and check at the same time in pavucontrol. I don't know what other good app could be used for testing other than audacity.
[00:23] <blackhole> it could be mic is just broken
[00:23] <blackhole> but its brand new, though its cheap, I don't have another machine to try today akemhp
[00:23] <akemhp> blackhole, You should test it on another device, yeah.
[00:23] <blackhole> akemhp, yeh probably will try at some other machine
[00:24] <blackhole> akemhp, any recommend (not too expensive mic) for Linux?
[00:25] <akemhp> blackhole, Not really :P i would just look for good reviews on Aliexpress OFC.
[00:28] <akemhp> blackhole, You can try the app named "recordmydesktop", it does record from the microphone by default, and look at the same time at pavucontrol in the recording tab to see if you got change when tapping the microphone.
[00:29] <blackhole> akemhp, I tried select monitor as recording device and played a you tube video & it got recorded fine
[00:30] <blackhole> akemhp, looks like mic is broken
[00:30] <akemhp> blackhole, It recorded what?
[00:31] <akemhp> If it recorded some audio, the microphone most likely works.
[00:31] <blackhole> akemhp, the sound that was coming from monitor
[00:31] <akemhp> blackhole, I see.
[00:32] <akemhp> So yeah, try another microphone then, and/or check this one on another device.
[00:57] <tangarora_> Hi, where do I find the equivalent of debian non-free firmware to include in the /firmware folder on the net-install iso for Ubuntu?
[00:58] <tangarora_> I am assuming that I cannot use debian frimware for wireless cards etc in Ubuntu?
[00:59] <tomreyn> if by "net-install iso" you mean "mini.iso" then i guess you could use the debian firmwares, but you'd better use ubuntu's
[01:00] <tomreyn> also they may already be included
[01:02] <tomreyn> hmm no, not included
[01:03] <tomreyn> oh yes actually they are. heh
[01:03] <pragmaticenigma> tangarora_, Perhaps it might help to know which firmware you're looking for?
[01:04] <tomreyn> and which ubuntu version, too
[01:28] <DarwinElf> some days ago I had to boot Kubuntu 18.04.3 recovery from my installation media.  I tried the menu option to start networking.  I write to you with tears in my eyes as it wouldn't work as there's no /etc/init.d/networking .  What package do I need to (re)install to have that file there?
[01:41] <tomreyn> DarwinElf: use a wired link to get networking working from recovery, so either ethernet or a usb dongle
[01:41] <tomreyn> DarwinElf: a smartphone which does tethering over wireless on the outer end and usb wire to the pc on the inner also works.
[01:41] <DarwinElf> it's not a hardware problem, it's a problem of the recovery software not being updated
[01:42] <DarwinElf> obviously I have the hardware or I wouldn't have said it wasn't activated
[01:42] <tomreyn> DarwinElf: ubuntu uses systemd for a while now, so /etc/init.d/networking is gone.
[01:42] <DarwinElf> i've read other instances on question sites of people saying it's gone
[01:42] <DarwinElf> so fix it!
[01:43] <tomreyn> me then, the volunteer responding to you?
[01:43] <DarwinElf> Canonical should fix it
[01:43] <DarwinElf> you don't just leave a broken option in recovery software: that's rank amateur
[01:47] <tomreyn> i don't want to argue with you, but the init system has really changed. some info on this is available from the 16.04 and more from the 18.04 release notes, i think.
[01:48] <DarwinElf> luckily I know/knew how to recover anyway by using the live CD and chroot.  However some people using these newer GUI-focused OSes don't know that stuff.  This is why they've departed from being Unix-like.  It's sad.  I don't think I'll ever be able to recommend them to average users again; going to start looking for something else
[02:22] <wondows> turned my pc on today just to suddenly be greeted with "No WiFi adapter found"
[02:22] <wondows> everything was working fine, I didn't change anything
[02:23] <wondows> I reset and booted into Windows and I have wifi, so the wifi card is fine
[02:26] <tomreyn> wondows: dual boot linux / windows - have you disabled windows "fast startup"?
[02:27] <wondows> tomreyn not sure what that is, and I don't think Windows has anything to do with the issue
[02:29] <tomreyn> if it doesn't fully shut down it may not properly deinitialize the wireless device, which could cause problems during initialization. at least that's what i remember to have read, limited to specific devices and firmwares.
[02:30] <chamar> I had similar issue with an audio card on a Dell laptop.. so that's possible.
[02:33] <wondows> eh... so I gotta look into that... "fast startup"
[02:33] <wondows> but I had not used Windows prior to the issue
[02:33] <wondows> I was using Ubuntu yesterday just fine, shut it down, then powered it up today and this happened
[02:34] <tomreyn> ok, this rules it out as a source of this problem then.
[02:36] <tomreyn> so look at     lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller'      and        journalctl -b -p3
[02:36] <chamar> Do you see the card using "lspci" ?
[02:37] <tomreyn> wondows: ^
[02:40] <wondows> yes
[02:40] <wondows> Ethernet controller and Network controller
[02:40] <wondows> `journalctl -b -p3` shows a few errors
[02:41] <pragmaticenigma> wondows, can you post them to paste.ubuntu.com please?
[02:41] <wondows> the PC has no internet
[02:42] <pragmaticenigma> open a text editor, copy, paste, save file to USB, transfer to another computer that has interent, post to site?
[02:42] <wondows> yeah let's see
[02:43] <wondows> I can type it out
[02:44] <pragmaticenigma> wondows, Another option to try is the LIVE install disk. See if that boots and has access again to your wifi/network adapters. If windows does have a lock on it, I think it would persist even on a live boot.
[02:45] <wondows> CRITICAL: unable to create a DBus proxy for GnomeScreensaver: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.ScreenSaver: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process org.gnome.ScreenSaver exited with status 1
[02:45] <wondows> I don't think this is relevant
[02:45] <wondows> hmm
[02:46] <wondows> I have a live usb ready, I'm gonna try
[02:49] <wondows> Same results on live usb
[02:50] <tomreyn> the "Network controller" is probably the wireless. my guess is that you're on ubuntu 18.04 with HWE and with an unsupported wireless chipset, need to install newer drivers which build against linux 5.3
[02:51] <tomreyn> if you can tell us what else is on the "Network controller" line and the indented lines following it, we can lok further.
[02:51] <wondows> yes it is "Broadcom Limited... Wireless Network Adapter"
[02:51] <wondows> (rev 03(
[02:52] <wondows> *(rev 03)
[02:52] <tomreyn> use the command i provided, please
[02:52] <tomreyn> or just this if you'd like to type less:   lspci -knn | grep -A3 'Network controller'
[02:52] <wondows> I have used journalctl -b -p3
[02:53] <wondows> oh
[02:53] <wondows> not that one err
[02:54] <tomreyn> so we need those numbers in square brackets to the end of the first line of output
[02:54] <tomreyn> as well as "Kernel driver in use" and "Kernel modules"
[02:55] <tomreyn> from the installed system, not the usb booted system
[02:55] <tomreyn> you should probably attach an ethernet wire for now, though, or a smartphone via usb cable and put it into wireless tethering mode
[02:56] <tomreyn> wondows: that's because you will probably need internet access to fix this (unless you want to carry usb sticks around)
[02:59] <wondows> I took a photo of it xD https://i.imgur.com/b3TXjI0.jpg
[03:00] <wondows> I'll have to move the pc to another spot to attach a wire so a bit inconvenient atm
[03:03] <tomreyn> wondows: which ubuntu version is this, which kernel version?
[03:03] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version
[03:04] <wondows> uname -a says 5.3.0-26-generic #28~18.04.1-Ubuntu
[03:06] <wondows> your `lsb_release...` says Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS Linux version 5.3.0-26-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-039) (gcc version 7.4.0 (Ubuntu 7.4.0-1ubuntu1~18.04.1)) #28~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP...
[03:07] <tomreyn> wondows: ah sorry for making you type all of that. so my theory was right there.
[03:08] <wondows> no worries..
[03:09] <tomreyn> so you'll need package bcmwl-kernel-source
[03:10] <tomreyn> which version of it is installed now?   apt list bcmwl-kernel-source
[03:11] <tomreyn> wondows: ^
[03:11] <wondows> hmm
[03:11] <tomreyn> is it 6.30.223.271+bdcom-0ubuntu5~18.04.1 or older or newer?
[03:12] <wondows> exactly that
[03:12] <tomreyn> so with "ubuntu5"?
[03:12] <wondows> yes
[03:12] <wondows> I had problems with this wifi card before, to make it work I actually had to install broadcom-sta-dkms
[03:13] <tomreyn> hmm i expected that to actually work with 5.3
[03:13] <chamar> hmu.. remembering having that in my older XPS... when installing Ubuntu, it "force" you to have Secure boot enabled to actually install that driver...
[03:15] <wondows> what upsets me is that I didn't do anything, I didn't install any updates or anything
[03:15] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers discusses what to do, which drivers there are, how you can install them offline.
[03:16] <tomreyn> usually you need exactly one of bcmwl-kernel-source and firmware-b43-installer
[03:16] <wondows> wow it's complicated haha
[03:17] <tomreyn> yes you bought complicated hardware there
[03:17] <tomreyn> or rather hardware from a complicated manufacturer
[03:18] <wondows> quite impressive how someone took the time to come up with that entire guide
[03:19] <tomreyn> wondows: unfortunately i think this table doesn't list your specific hardware, but give it a try nevertheless. also, you can probably choose to boot the old kernel for now by choosing it on the grub menu and thus get online again for now.
[03:19] <wondows> simpler solution would be to install swap it with the other card I have which is only 2.4 GHz
[03:20] <wondows> -install
[03:21] <tomreyn> i don't think that's simpler than choosing the older 5.0 kernel image from grub menu next time you boot. but maybe for th elonger term it can be a better choice depending on your needs.
[03:22] <wondows> I just don't wanna waste any time debugging this bs
[03:22] <tomreyn> ok, then i'll stop wasting time on that as well, good luck.
[03:23] <wondows> Thanks for the help, it always amazes me how you guys come up with all sorts of terminal commands
[03:24] <chamar> years of debugging issues like yours. :P
[03:24] <wondows> yeah I guess, this stuff is just not my cup of tea, I just want my computers to work so that I can write code
[03:25] <wondows> so I always get super upset when I am prevented from doing what I should do because of some crap that suddenly stops working and there are no obvious ways around it
[03:25] <chamar> yeah.. Been working with Linux for 20 years and I still dual-boot.. so.. I won't argue. ;)
[03:25] <chamar> I'm out.  cheers guys.
[03:26] <wondows> same, bye
[03:26] <wondows> thanks
[03:39] <jnewt> yup, i've been in the "testing" phase of linux for over 10 years it seems like.   I install a new version on every computer i get or every time i get the itch, but for my day to day where things just need to work, I always fall back to windows, and I hate it.  I wish linux could just get it together.
[03:58] <jnewt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1532508  this thing has been open for 4 years!
[04:01] <Phruis> what user runs rsyslog?
[04:01] <Phruis> or group?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> jnewt: perhaps move discussions to #ubuntu-discuss ?
[04:07] <joenmarz> testing
[04:08] <joenmarz> hello, does anyone having problem doing apt update recently?
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> joenmarz: best to pastebin your output to the channel so volunteers can take a look for you
[04:09] <pragmaticenigma> joenmarz, it's also better to ask your question up front rather than ask if anyone else is having an issue. There are a lot of users from around the world and there are a large number of factors that could prevent you from successfully running apt
[04:10] <pragmaticenigma> Phruis, if installed, it might be running as under rsyslog as both user and group.
[04:11] <joenmarz> here's my result https://pastebin.com/z0D9GMRg
[04:15] <pragmaticenigma> Phruis: use the following command and it will tell you the PID as well as the running user: systemctl status rsyslog.service
[04:15] <pragmaticenigma> Phruis: in my configuration, it is running as rsyslogd
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> joenmarz: are you on a direct conenction please?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> joenmarz: aka, no firewall, router block, isp troubles?
[04:17] <joenmarz> i'm connected directly to the modem without any firewall
[04:18] <joenmarz> but when i try to ping the archive.ubuntu.com or security.ubuntu.com, it shows reply
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> joenmarz: ok, please come join at #ubuntu-mirrors and ask again there togheter with your paste
[04:24] <DarwinElf> i installed qt5-qmake.  However now it only shows I have qt4-qmake
[04:25] <DarwinElf> but I'm using KDE5!
[04:25] <DarwinElf> (18.04.3)
[04:34] <joenmarz> ex-chat
[04:36] <DarwinElf> tomreyn, thanks for explaining at least.  At least now I know I can't believe anything I see in *ubuntu will work, and for the situation of using recovery mode to fix packages, it just doesn't work anymore and hasn't been fixed for several versions--you have to boot live CD and chroot and fix it yourself... and at least I know how to do that for average users I administer their PCs... just no longer can recommend *ubuntu to average users I don't
[04:36] <DarwinElf> administer their PCs, because they may run into the same problem with recovery mode and blame me for suggesting an OS that has a broken recovery mode for several versions.  I hope it's fixed in the future.  If I continue to use it for several years (unlikely, depends if AMDGPU-PRO/ROCm drivers port to strictly Unix-like OS) then I'll report this for every version on the official bug report site...
[04:36] <DarwinElf> i wonder if they'll just say 'haha, "WONTFIX," read release notes l4m3r'
[04:43] <pragmaticenigma> DarwinElf, KDE5 is not qt5... KDE is built using qt, but the version numbers are not related.
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> DarwinElf, also, please try to stay on the topic of support questions and answers only. It is preferred that discussions and chat go in #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[04:45] <jnewt> lotuspsychje, that's for non-support questions right?  How does that fit better?   Is this only for issues that have already been solved?
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> jnewt: there's a difference between asking a specific question about a bug and discuss/complaint about its being open for 4 years
[04:49] <pragmaticenigma> jnewt, Unity is no longer being developed by Canonical and has been taken up by the ubports community. Discussion about tickets in launchpad are not relevant here, as this channel is focused on actively supporting issues encounterd by users. Not discovery of bug tickets.
[04:50] <DarwinElf> Well that clears that up.  If I can't reply with thanks for answering a question I guess I'll never do that again
[04:56] <jnewt> So unity questions are out?  that's most of what desktop users see and is probably 90% of their interaction with ubuntu.  my 18.04 has unity, is that not standard and still supported version?
[04:57] <jnewt> pragmaticenigma, I am here asking for help with what I belive to be a supported version of Ubuntu from Canonical.  where have I gone wrong?
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> jnewt: unity can still be installed as official package from the repos
[04:58] <pragmaticenigma> jnewt, I just told you, ubports is the team that is working on Unity now. It's a community project. You can install it from the Repos, but it is no longer the default desktop enviornment.
[04:59] <DarwinElf> well the problem still is, how can I install qt5-qmake alongside qt4-qmake (already on 18.04.3)... apt-get said qt5-qmake installed then there's no trace of it on the system
[05:03] <Bashing-om> !info qt5-qmake bionic | DarwinElf
[05:04] <Bashing-om> DarwinElf: ^^ what shows ' dpkg -l qt5-qmake' ?
[05:05] <jnewt> pragmaticenigma, maybe that's where I went wrong.  I assumed unity was the default desktop.  I just show "Ubuntu" and "Ubuntu (wayland)" on my login screen.   maybe those are not unity?
[05:06] <DarwinElf> it shows a lot of stuff, I guess I'd have to put it on a pastebin.  Now I realize it may have been installed somewhere unusual, so I'm doing a 'find'
[05:06] <pragmaticenigma> for 17.10 and onward, Ubuntu switched back to Gnome as its default GUI. Unity and Gnome3 have had very similar interfaces since both of their creations.
[05:09] <jnewt> ok, well then I'd say I'm running gnome, since i'm on 18.04.3 LTS and the software update shows everything up to date.
[05:10] <tatertots> jnewt: what is the actual problem you're having?
[05:11] <Bashing-om> jnewt: ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' will show your flavor and desktop.
[05:11] <jnewt> it says ubuntu ubuntu:GNOME
[05:12] <jnewt> my problem is after having the laptop lid closed, when i open it, it shows the desktop or whatever apps / stuff I have running before the lock screen covers it.
[05:12] <DarwinElf> where should I post it, Bashing-om, or can it just all be on one line?  BTW, the find only showed '/usr/share/doc/qt5-qmake'
[05:13] <Bashing-om> !info gdm3bionic | jnewt
[05:13] <Bashing-om> !info gdm3 bionic | jnewt
[05:14] <Bashing-om> !paste | DarwinElf
[05:15] <tatertots> jnewt: i see so it take a little bit for the display to refresh and you can see crumbs or remnants from prior to closing the lid for a slit second before the lock screen shows
[05:15] <jnewt> tatertots, it's not crumbs and remnants, it's the whole screen.
[05:15] <tatertots> jnewt: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[05:16] <jnewt> tatertots, yes, my only computer
[05:16] <DarwinElf> thanks, Bashing-om.  Here's my paste for that topic: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zgcrYBDS5k/
[05:16] <tatertots> jnewt: open terminal>   inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[05:16] <tatertots> jnewt: it will instruct you to install it if its not already installed
[05:16] <pragmaticenigma> jnewt, what is likely happening is the last rendered image in the frame buffer is being shown just prior to the screen switching over to the lock screen. If you are concerned about someone seeing that information then make sure you lock your session prior to closing the lid on your computer.
[05:17] <tatertots> jnewt: share the url/link here
[05:17] <tatertots> jnewt: if you do not get a url/link..say so
[05:18] <pragmaticenigma> DarwinElf, Appears to be installed... if both tools are installed though, have you looked at the documentation to see how to target a specific one?
[05:20] <jnewt> tatertots: https://termbin.com/tfnyj
[05:21] <DarwinElf> then why did find only return the documentation, not the binary... and the qt-qmake says it's for QT4?
[05:21] <DarwinElf> i didn't look at the documentation yet
[05:21] <DarwinElf> but the binary just isn't on the system, according to find
[05:21] <jnewt> pragmaticenigma, that sounds like a good theory, and I think a good solution would be to change whatever setting causes it to show that frame buffer and just show a blank screen or the lock screen.
[05:23] <jnewt> tatertots, is that what you needed?  did i do that right?
[05:23] <tatertots> jnewt: did you have trouble installing ubuntu initially or something?...i noticed drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) and i compared to my intel ivy bridge graphic and i'm using the intel graphics driver
[05:23] <pragmaticenigma> jnewt, The frame buffer is in the graphics card... the only way to do that is to make sure a blank frame is rendered just prior the monitor/computer entering a power save mode. However, a race condition can exist which may lead to the behavior seen. Something that would be really hard to fix
[05:24] <tatertots> jnewt: mine says drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
[05:25] <tatertots> granted i'm on a ivy bridge generation
[05:25] <jnewt> tatertots,  I can't remember anything specifically, but I wouldn't take my own word for it.  Is there something I can check?
[05:25] <tatertots> jnewt: people that have trouble installing usually do the whole modesetting/no modesetting dance
[05:26] <DarwinElf> i've done this before, on other OSes... when you install both, you definitely have both binaries... not only the documentation
[05:26] <DarwinElf> so something went wrong
[05:27] <tomreyn> jnewt: can you post the output of these to a pastebin?  cat /proc/cmdline; lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA
[05:28] <tatertots> jnewt: Graphics:  Card: Intel HD Graphics 5500 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1616
[05:28] <tatertots>  
[05:28] <tatertots> jnewt: that's what you got...but post the thing tomreyn asked you to though
[05:29] <jnewt> tomreyn, https://pastebin.com/j2CZvrdZ
[05:29] <tomreyn> i'm looking for the driver info there, and kernel parameters
[05:30] <tomreyn> so this looks like KMS unless Xorg says differently
[05:31] <tomreyn> i.e. with this very kernel version, until you file a bug report and it gets fixed, it probably won't get better.
[05:31] <tomreyn> you could try a different kernel just to introduce some variance, and see whether this works better
[05:32] <tomreyn> !LTSE
[05:32] <tomreyn> jnewt: ^
[05:32] <DarwinElf> pragmaticenigma, and it turns out there is no documentation for qt5-qmake(-bin) (in /usr/share/doc)... just a changelog... not even a manpage
[05:33] <jeffmr> Is smartctl the best way to check the integrity of an nvme drive?
[05:33] <tomreyn> jeffmr: i think so. there is also "nvme-clie" itself, though.
[05:33] <tatertots> jnewt: do you have other kernel versions besides 4.15
[05:34] <tomreyn> * "nvme-cli"
[05:34] <jeffmr> tomreyn, I read that.  thanks.  Getting some odd errors when I shutdown.
[05:34] <jeffmr> Is there a shutdown log?
[05:35] <tomreyn> jeffmr: only what goes to the systemd journal / syslog and the console.
[05:35] <jeffmr> tomreyn, thanks.
[05:35] <jnewt> tomreyn, so I may be on an older kernel than the majority of people?   The way pragmaticenigma commented, it seems this is something that is unavoidable, so someone has to have had this issue right?
[05:36] <jnewt> tatertots, not that I know of.  I can reboot and see what grub says.
[05:36] <tatertots> jnewt: in terminal> awk -F\' '/menuentry / {print $2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg|nc termbin.com 9999
[05:37] <tomreyn> jnewt: that's possible, you could search bugs.launchpad.net for it and bugs.freedesktop.org as well
[05:37] <tatertots> jnewt: share url/link here
[05:38] <jnewt> tatertots, https://termbin.com/x7aj
[05:38] <jnewt> that seems like a really useful thing (termbin)
[05:38] <tatertots> jnewt: no need to reboot
[05:39] <tatertots> jnewt: you've got a couple versions of 4.15
[05:39] <jnewt> yeah, .72 and .74
[05:41] <tatertots> jnewt: have you made the same observation on .72?
[05:41] <tatertots> jnewt: are there any newer versions being offered to you via updates?
[05:43] <tatertots> jnewt: yeah i guess termbin is useful...i was banned from a channel from asking a user to use it once though so ...when in rome..do as the romans
[05:43] <jnewt> tomreyn: similar issues are all over launchpad.net.  lots referencing 1768786
[05:45] <jnewt> a guy in 1532508 has an x1 carbon too and is talking about some S3 vs S0i3 and how the proposed fix is targeted, but now we're getting over my head.  he's Thorsten and is post #25
[05:46] <jnewt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1532508 , post #25
[05:47] <tomreyn> jnewt: so is it related to resume?
[05:47] <tomreyn> bug 1768786
[05:49] <jnewt> tomreyn: yeah, it's when I open the lid, it shows my screen for some amount of time and then it's covered by the lock screen.
[05:52] <tomreyn> the link to the (upstream) gnome bug tracker 1532508 is broken. it used to point to the since replaced / deprecated gnome bugtracker at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753678
[05:52] <tatertots> does it bother you enough to use something else? or can you live with it
[05:53] <tomreyn> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-1000002.html
[05:54] <tomreyn> as with most other bugs, unless someone took the time to manually re-report the bug on gnomes new bugtracker, it may not get handled by the gnome project
[05:55] <tomreyn> the new one is at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/issues
[05:55] <jnewt> tatertots, It bothers me.   A lot.  I've never had a system do this.   I didn't even realize it could happen.   I'm just testing ubuntu.  I come back to check on the state of linux periodically to see if it's something I'm comfortable enough with to put into daily use.   I'm not comfortable with this, but also not comfortable with windows 10 which I am now forced to use (I liked 7 a lot, no issues that weren't fixed quickly).
[05:56] <tomreyn> and it has no reference to CVE-2016-1000002 there
[05:58] <tomreyn> the (old) gnome bugzilla has a workaround on the bottom. alternatively you could choose not to suspend, but i understand this can impact some workflows.
[05:59] <tatertots> jnewt: there's some flavors of ubuntu and Linux that don't use gnome/gdm..
[06:00] <tatertots> jnewt: unless you're just hell bent on using and sticking with it
[06:01] <jnewt> tatertots, I'm not.  I need to stick with either windows or a debian / ubuntu based system for support from a couple of pieces of software I use for work, but other than that, I don't care at all if it uses gnome or whatever.
[06:02] <tomreyn> redhat and opensuse have closed it as WONTFIX due to low impact (RH: "Requirement for physical access of the attacker and limited information disclosure as the only impact makes this a Low impact bug, hence WONTFIX.")
[06:03] <jnewt> tatertots, but stuff like this bothers me.  it's something that should not happen, and hasn't been happening to me on any os ever.  it's weird that it's not picked up and fixed asap as a security issue
[06:04] <tatertots> jnewt: like tomreyn pointed out...it's pretty low impact
[06:05] <tatertots> jnewt: you can use a Ubuntu or Linux distro that doesn't use gdm/Gnome or just not suspend or not close the lid...
[06:06] <jnewt> tatertots, can i just swap gnome for something else without a full re-install?
[06:08] <tatertots> jnewt: sure..give it a shot
[06:09] <tomreyn> you can install multiple, but replacing one is not so easy
[06:10] <tatertots> and sometimes that can even end up kinda funky..multiple icons for stuff and other weirdness
[06:10] <jnewt> tomreyn, i've installed cinnamon, and can select it from the lock screen.  but it's like i need to replace the lock screen to solve the problem (it's still gnome right?).  i can't find much info on doing that.
[06:12] <tomreyn> jnewt: i suspect mate will use something else for screen locking than gnome-shell does.
[06:13] <tomreyn> in gnome-shell, i think the screen lock is actually part of gnome-shell, not a separate application (as other desktops have it).
[06:15] <jnewt> tomreyn, it seems the desktops are pretty tightly coupled to the OS itself, as opposed to how I used to view it (just a piece of software you could add / remove easily.
[06:15] <tomreyn> the bug about the screen showing briefly is tracked against gdm3, though, not against any desktops' screen locking mechanism
[06:16] <jnewt> installing mate now.  we'll see what happens when i reboot.   my money is on the same lock screen and issue with a menu item to select mate just like cinnamon
[06:16] <jnewt> be back in a min!
[06:21] <jnewt_> tomreyn, ok, so I'm on mate now.   at it does properly hide the screen.   after I log in, i immediately get the gnome login screen.   but mate has everything hidden properly, so that's good.   now if i could get rid of the double log in, I may be able to move on.
[06:21] <tomreyn> actually it's tracked against gnome-shell on gnome bugzilla, but against gdm3 elsewhere
[06:22] <tomreyn> jnewt_: this will probably be one of the side effects tatertots had mentioned.
[06:22] <jnewt_> it seems that it is gnome that's broken, not the graphics card or the framebuffer or the S3 S0i3 or whatever all those people are talking about
[06:24] <jnewt_> tomreyn, having to get rid of gnome?  or being stuck with it?   I can just wipe ubuntu and install ubuntu-mate.
[06:24] <tomreyn> i guess the FB should be cleared both by systemd-sleep as well as by the lockscreen mechanism
[06:25] <tomreyn> i can't tell, have never migrated from gnome-shell / gdm3 to mate.
[06:25] <jnewt_> idk the details, but I know for sure that mate has it right, and gnome does not. does the desktop itself have control over those low level things?
[06:26] <tomreyn> not suspend itself, no.
[06:27] <jnewt_> then that wouldn't be the issue.   just changing to mate completely fixes it.  first frame up is a blank background with the mate colors.
[06:28] <tomreyn> you can report your findings on gnome gitlab
[06:28] <tatertots> I've always kinda liked mate
[06:29] <jnewt_> i like cinnamon the best i think, mate seems a little "old / simple", but to each their own.
[06:30] <jnewt_> ooh, there's a distro with ubuntu and cinnamon out of the box.
[06:32] <jnewt_> ugh, security risk on their website cert, no LTS version, it's always something.
[06:35] <jayjo> I have created a gpg key following the ubuntu guide, and it mentions if I use gmail or some additional apps how I can integrate them: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto is there any way to integrate with ios at all?
[06:48] <tomreyn> jayjo: how to use gpg on ios is probably not an #ubuntu question
[06:49] <iATR> What’s up
[06:49] <jnewt_> confirmed cinnamon has the same issue as gnome
[06:49] <jnewt_> mate is the only one that doesn't flash the screen before lock
[06:49] <jnewt_> (that i've tried so far)
[06:50] <jayjo> tomreyn: I can't argue with you, but I'm asking about using my ubuntu desktop to generate a private key to encrypt/decrypt email messages and be able to do the same on ios. There are other ubuntu integrations with ios, but this does sound a little far fetched
[06:50] <iATR> I’ve got a noob question 😆 I reinstalled Linux. What command to I type in IRSSI to register my name and password?? Thanks!
[06:50] <jayjo> -
[06:52] <tomreyn> jayjo: there may well be a way to make use of the same key material on iOS, as there is on freebsd and windows and probably other OSes. I don't expect a more narrow 'integration' than that.
[06:53] <tomreyn> !register | iATR
[06:58] <iatr_> Got it
[06:59] <DarwinElf> couln't one install games from the Ubuntu fork, GNU/Linux Mint, or will that lead to one big giant crash?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: mint isnt supported here
[07:03] <DarwinElf> isn't maybe asking if you can install a package, not the entire OS, not support?  I mean, Debian/Ubuntu has rpm/yum... someone might want to know if anyone else successfully installed a package.  That doesn't mean 'support' (whatever that means) for the entire OS that uses those package managers
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: your asking is no a question, but more a poll, wich we also dont handle in the support channel
[07:05] <DarwinElf> definitely not a poll... just wanted to know why you responded the way you did originally
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: feel free to discuss it in #ubuntu-discuss
[07:07] <DarwinElf> well you're not in there, so that wasn't applicable
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> i am
[07:40] <iATR> Is there a way to install Parrot or Kali tools within Ubuntu?
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> iATR: we strongly advice to install software from the ubuntu repos only
[08:05] <iATR> iATR: ok
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> iATR: if you want to start pentesting, install pentest tools from the ubuntu repos?
[08:28] <iATR> lotuspsychje: I wasn’t aware they were available there
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> iATR: there are pentest tools on the ubuntu repos, but not as much as specific pentest distro's
[08:32] <iATR> Thank you!
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> iATR: apt-cache search yourkeyword
[08:59] <drappist> hi
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> welcome drappist
[08:59] <drappist> which is better than espeak for text to speech
[08:59] <drappist> espeak is bad
[09:14] <oerheks> there are some speech to text app,s some have a learning curve. mind that this runs on your system, alexa/siri/etc do this in the cloud
[09:16] <oerheks> https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-open-source-speech-recognition-tools-for-linux/
[09:18] <drappist> how do I know does my desktop have a built-in microphone, and speaker
[09:18] <drappist> it has a speaker and it's low quality , so which file is it
[09:18] <drappist> devices
[09:19] <drappist> Btw there are several speech synthesisers no learning curve, festival seems fine.
[09:19] <oerheks> disktops usually have no mic build in, laptops/tablets do.
[09:20] <oerheks> or desktops
[09:20] <drappist> but laptops do for sure. so which file is it
[09:28] <eliyahuTBR> morning all. simple newbie question. I have a bunch of chrome tabs open and I want to alt+tab through them, but when I  alt+tab I am given only the programs I have running (one for chrome that takes me to the last window I had open). Is there a key combo that will scroll me through the open chrome windows?
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> eliyahuTBR: chrome issues do not really fit in the ubuntu support channel, perhaps seek on their forum/chat ?
[09:30] <oerheks> eliyahuTBR, hoover over the tabs with your mouse > scrollwheel
[09:31] <oerheks> eliyahuTBR, it is annoying feature, when i want to change volume with scrollwhell
[09:31] <eliyahuTBR> thanks lotuspsychje and oerheks.
[09:32] <oerheks> arrow up down to scroll through the page
[10:12] <TheReturnOfJo> Hello! Ubuntu 18.04 starts running slowly after use, then does not recover when all programs closed, while running gnome 3 on a moderately respectable system (i7 1.8 quad, 4gb ram, old but dedicated gpu, but mechanical harddrive) - can someone direct me to a possible troubleshooting guide or differential. No thermal throttling as far as I can tell, also at instances where it does run slowly, the cpu is being hardly used at all. ty <3
[10:18] <tatertots> TheReturnOfJo: did you look at anything other than CPU utilization?
[10:18] <tatertots> TheReturnOfJo: did you look at memory usage?
[10:20] <TheReturnOfJo> I did. The ram and swap remained full (so 6gb in total used by say, 6 web tabs and telegram messenger). This is much more than top told me was actually being use by programs (which was below 1gb) - but, from what I gather this is a common thing becuase of how memory is alocated (??)
[10:21] <drappist> isn't braceexpand a shell option?
[10:24] <oerheks> yes, for Disco 19.04 and up https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/disco/braceexpand
[10:24] <ircExile> I'm running slower system based on similar to 18.04 and don't experience the slowness
[10:25] <ircExile> I can't help for this issue but can you check the smart tab of your harddrive to see if they have errors
[10:27] <eliyahuTBR> how do i take a screenshot in general and of a specific window or section of screen? do I need to install an application? if so, any reccomendations?
[10:28] <oerheks> hit the print-screen button, gnome-screenshot is installed standard, and gives options
[10:29] <eliyahuTBR> thanks
[10:30] <TheReturnOfJo> ircExile: this gives me hope the problem can be fixed! I actually hadn't checked the harddrive so I shall - also just to add I am not running any gnome extensions, which I hear can sometime be a problem
[10:32] <DarkTrick> I'd like to understand the startup process of ubuntu. Is there a resource (website(?)) that shows a list of the startup routine of ubuntu?  (like: when is /etc/rc* being used? when is /etc/init.d being used? and what else there is ... )
[10:33] <tatertots> TheReturnOfJo: so no "free" memory when your system is slow
[10:33] <drappist> if I were to not use a cron or systemd's startup, how do i execute a single bash script
[10:33] <tehpwnz> hello everyone. I am trying to host a golang web app on digital ocean Ubuntu 18.04 but when i navigate to my website, i have to add http:mysite.com:8080 is there a way I can just use the site name?
[10:34] <tehpwnz> I meant *http://mysite.com:8080
[10:36] <drappist> does sudo accept password in a non-interactive manner?
[10:38] <ircExile> they said TheReturnOfJo: ..."running slowly after use, then does not recover when all programs closed"
[10:39] <ircExile> TheReturnOfJo you might want to try this, use system monitor have it sort by memory and see if any of those programs are still there?
[10:40] <ircExile> somehow sometimes this happens with vlc for me
[10:46] <drappist> ~/.bashrc is executed by ~/.profile which script executes that what's the full chain
[10:46] <TheReturnOfJo> tatertots: yes no free memory when slow, and also ircExcile: when listed by memory, the top memory users bearly reached 500mb
[10:50] <ircExile> but they still exist after you closed a program?
[10:53] <drappist> in ubuntu is /etc/profile executed first or /etc/profile.d/*
[10:54] <TheReturnOfJo> ircExile: not after I close the program, the total listed memory usage at the top remains very high, almost maxed out
[10:57] <gjaekel> After last update of this Ubuntu 18.04, all window title bar of non-maximized windows (and only this ones) are corrupt -- may anybody confirm?
[11:01] <gjaekel> Functionality is OK, but the rendering is disturbed: There's some strange "block-shifting" allover the complete titlebar area.
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: a bit more details would be interesting, kernel version? graphics card chipset? screenshot of your issue?
[11:03] <gjaekel> Where to upload a screenshot, please?
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: imgur.com for example
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:11] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: Can you read https://imgur.com/a/XHOu4aH ?
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: ok, and your kernel and graphics card chipset please?
[11:12] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: I've used normal update. There was an upgrade to Kernel 5.3 (<5.0) and a lot of graphics stuff (mesa etc.)
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: yes, HWE kernel shifted up to 5.3
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: an idea would be booting previous kernel version as a test to compare
[11:13] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: graphic card is an Radeon (01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM])
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> thank you gjaekel
[11:15] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: I already have booted using the previous kernel with no change. It's a video rendering problem IMHO.
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: ok, can you pastebin your dmesg from booting 5.3 please?
[11:15] <gjaekel> It don't appear with maximized windows (!?!)
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: AMD cards are known for doing weird corruption bugs on linux in some cases
[11:18] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: Sorry, that's a null-information statement. Every software is know for doing weird things in some cases.
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: i didnt make a statement, its a fact we saw a lot of corruption bugs with amd on ubuntu in the past
[11:19] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: BTW: Is there a way to pipe stdout to the clipboard?
[11:21] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GWy8ryMbtn/
[11:23] <Aryan> Hy
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: do you have multiple screens?
[11:26] <ufk> i deleted /var/lib/postgresql/11 by mistake.. how can I create a new clean one ?
[11:27] <gjaekel> No. This happens on two independent destop computers, but both are Dell755 with this Radeon card.
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: can you please file a !bug for it?
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: ubuntu-bug linux
[11:29] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: Yes, in about 2h. I have to do sports before :)  You're related to Canonical?
[11:29] <Aryan> I'm using ubuntu 18.04 infrontof win10
[11:29] <Aryan> Today, when i booted win10 up , it loaded some diagnose ...
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: im a regular volunteer, but we also follow the new bugs
[11:30] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: Thank you for first quick comment on this. How to extract a list of updates happen with the last update?
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:31] <Aryan> After that i returned back to ubuntu and i see the "you logged in as recovery mode" and i noticed that windows formatted my /home partition as its own EFI partition ...
[11:32] <Aryan> No i've lost my /home partition
[11:32] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: FYI: I have a lot of Unix knowledge, but I'm not trained in using Ubuntu. I'm a "server guy" ;)
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: thats ok, we have users here from novice to expert
[11:34] <gjaekel> I grep'd the packageds updated from the log for filing the bug . You're interested in, too?
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: after ubuntu-bug linux created your bug, you can attach dpkg.log to your bug easy
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: adding your screenshot to the bug is also a good idea
[11:41] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: Of course ...
[11:41] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: But I have to go on track first, now.
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> ok see you soon
[11:42] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: Thank you for support so far!
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> welcome gjaekel
[11:55] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: I decided to file the bug first: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-signed-hwe/+bug/1860268  . Thank you for support so far!
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: ok thank you for taking your time to file the bug
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> gjaekel: ill take a look at it bit later
[11:58] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: That's the least thing one have to pay for using open source software for free!
[11:58] <omega_doom> hello. How can i uninstall clion that has been installed manually?
[12:00] <gjaekel> lotuspsychje: And btw: Doing this using 'ubuntu-bug' ease this very much for all. I was using this the first time, today.
[12:10] <DrManhattan> Hello, my samba speeds have dropped to 10MBPS
[12:10] <DrManhattan> I have no idea how to tell what is causing it or how to fix it and I haven't changed anything in my server
[12:11] <omega_doom> I have 2 clion versions. I want to delete that has beend installed manually but i canot find it in the ubuntu software.
[12:12] <gjaekel> DrManhattan: Did the NIC or some other network component dropped to 10MBPS?
[12:12] <DrManhattan> No
[12:12] <guiverc> gjaekel, a `lshw -C video` or equiv. may also be useful on your bug report, it looks related to radeon to me (I also have some 755's but they don't all have the same radeon cards in them), and again thank you for spending the time to file the bug, and help make Ubuntu better :)
[12:13] <DrManhattan> NIC shows as connected at gigabit full speed - it's only SAMBA limited
[12:14] <gjaekel> guiverc: I'll append, but most of it should be in the dmesg.
[12:15] <guiverc> Yeah I looked there & expected to find it (it's where I confirmed radeon..); could be I searched for the wrong thing..
[12:17] <gjaekel> guiverc: Indeed, I upgrade the Dell 755 with this card some years ago. It's near the only one which fit into this harware.
[12:18] <guiverc> dell offered at least 3 options when they were being sold locally...
[12:18] <gjaekel> Hey, sun come out right now! I'll have to go on track now, first ;)
[12:20] <gjaekel> guiverc: This both are refurbished office PCs and I got the video cards on other channels afterward.
[12:22] <ircExile> track?
[12:23] <DrManhattan> gjaekel, iperf only gives me 100mbps between the two hosts but both are on gigabit connections
[12:24] <gjaekel> guiverc: It's the mini desktop case version. The card have to bee a low-profile, passive-cooled without an additional power connector for this. One is used a an internet desktop, the other as a media center connected to the TV.
[12:27] <guiverc> but cards vary; I have had 4 755's and that meant 3 different dell original cards; 2x radeon rv516/x1300/x1550, 1x radeon rv610/radeon hd2400 pro/xt, 1x ..  (the smaller form factor box had same card as a desktop model too, 2x desktop models varied) - why I asked; they can vary just on original order/purchases from dell alone..
[12:29] <ircExile> do you guys ever get amd cards to accelerate anything?
[12:30] <ircExile> i have some onboard intel stuff and some nvidia and amd cards around, not sure what is best
[12:53] <DrManhattan> I think I figured it out, I have a cabling issue methinks
[13:05] <Bundestrojaner> hello. is there a test to verify the proprietary nvidia driver is properly functioning and actually used?
[13:06] <Bundestrojaner> After I've installed 18.04 LTS, i've notified a massive impact on game performance compared to 16.04LTS, so I suspect something's wrong with my graphics driver.
[13:07] <Bundestrojaner> If the system is using the open source nvidia-driver, it would explain the lower game perforcmance
[13:56] <DarkTrick> How can I search with grep in all man files?
[13:59] <oerheks> cd /usr/share/man && grep -R "word" .
[14:01] <DarkTrick> oerheks, awesome! thank you!
[14:05] <DarkTrick> hmm... there is no man page talking about "init.d" ...
[14:06] <DarkTrick> or /etc/init or /etc/rc*
[14:06] <DarkTrick> Is there any doc, that explains, how they are interconnected?
[14:09] <Cedara> Hi, I could need some help. Ubuntu 18.04 - this morning the nvidia driver could not be loaded and putting in nvidia-settings gave me lots of text with the main thing as that it could not find the registry key file. How do I fix that?
[14:26] <larkfisherman> hey guys, I'm encountering a weird issue on my Lenovo Thinkpad L590 running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS...
[14:26] <larkfisherman> one reboot after ubuntu update I got the "bios flashing" screen, and after that my fan doesn't work
[14:27] <larkfisherman> it starts spinning when I boot up the computer, but stops as soon as the GRUB loader starts....
[14:28] <larkfisherman> I tried installing latest BIOS from Lenovo's page but it still doesn't work... Without the fan working my laptop starts crashing after any CPU-intensive use (Even opening a web-browser).... Can anyone help?
[14:39] <oerheks> larkfisherman, nasty, without fan your system could be damaged.
[14:39] <oerheks> what kernel update was this, Hwe 5.3.x ?
[14:40] <larkfisherman> It wasn't a kernel update, I think.
[14:40] <larkfisherman> It was just some kind of "Lenovo Firmware Update" that popped up on gnome-software
[14:40] <larkfisherman> and on next boot it flashed my BIOS
[14:41] <oerheks> oh fwupdate, https://itsfoss.com/update-firmware-ubuntu/
[14:41] <larkfisherman> Yeah, that was it.
[14:42] <larkfisherman> should I follow the instructions on that webpage?
[14:45] <ufk> ahhm.. what did I miss? what mariadb package executes mysql_install_db ?
[14:45] <oerheks> you could run sudo service fwupd status
[14:46] <oerheks> https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd
[14:46] <oerheks>  fwupdmgr report-history
[14:49] <larkfisherman> >No reports require uploading
[14:52] <ufk> apt-get install mariadb-server does not create /var/lib/mysql directory. trying to understand what other package is installed that supposed to do that withour running manually mysql_install_db
[14:52] <kickyou> hello ☺
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> larkfisherman: check the lenovo firmware update number, and go see on their website what fixes are included
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> larkfisherman: maybe you can find something related to your fan
[15:29] <Areador> hi, i use ubuntu 19.10 with wine-staging 5.0-rc5 ppa. i do not have any audio driver in winecfg -> audio. is there any package missing?
[15:49] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: Would it be possible to comprimise a 4096 RSA PGP key on a shared Ubuntu host without the password for the key?
[16:03] <tomreyn> keyrcbot / rudi9719: are you using some kind of an irc bridge there?
[16:03] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: Yes
[16:04] <tomreyn> rudi9719: hmm i'm not sure that's something that's welcome here, did you check this with #ubuntu-ops?
[16:04] <tomreyn> ...and the channel guidelines (see topic)
[16:06] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: Didn't quite care; but since it's not automated responses it is fine in most other channels
[16:06] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: That would be like saying you can't connect with WeeChat or irssi, only Kiwi
[16:10] <tomreyn> rudi9719: You should care. I'll quote the guidelines for you: "Please don't bring bots - Ubuntu already provides bots for channel logging, for help, and factoid related queries - there really is no need for more bots. If you think another bot would be helpful, contact the channel operators first."
[16:10] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: It's not a bot
[16:10] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: Which is what I said above in the message where I said I didn't care :)
[16:14] <elias_a> keyrcbot: You might consider naming the bridge with a name not referring to a bot if it is not a bot.
[16:14] <GojiMan> Is there a home directory equivalent of /etc/profile.d scripts?
[16:14] <GojiMan> i want a shell script to run for only my user
[16:15] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: elias_a, yeah I wasn't thinking too much when I made the IRC side for it - I'll probably change that eventually
[16:16] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: GojiMan, your .bashrc or .bash_profile might work if you're using bash, but you can have a local .profile file in your home directory also
[16:17] <GojiMan> i was hoping to have individual scripts. jamming a 1k line shell script into .profile seems like a bad idea
[16:19] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: You can have it source all files in a ~/.profile.d
[16:20] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: I do something similar but with .bashrc and a ~/bin/shared-bashrc
[16:20] <GojiMan> then you add something in .bashrc that executes everything in ~/profile.d?
[16:21] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: Yes
[16:21] <GojiMan> sounds great, thank you
[16:21] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: One warning though, anyone with access to that folder can add scripts that will autorun - if the system is shared
[16:22] <GojiMan> i'm encrypting my home directory, so hopefully that won't happen
[16:23] <keyrcbot> [rudi9719]: Even better
[16:28] <Betal> is this a error or I can ignore? "Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning"
[16:28] <Betal> is the first message after failing to boot
[16:34] <Stinky-Feet> Betal: If it finds all physical volumes during the scanning and thus can set up the VG correctly then you can ignore it. lvmetad is for caching this information, saving time during the boot process. See: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/166832/what-is-lvmetad-and-why-would-i-want-or-need-to-use-it
[16:35] <Betal> Stinky-Feet: then latter I get "failed to start user manager for uid 121" about 5 times and no GUI
[16:35] <Betal> well, so this might be the real issue
[16:37] <ufk> after mysql_secure_install i can still connect with root with any password and i didn't run with skip grant tables so what did I miss ?
[16:37] <badsektur> when i download mp3 .m3u files for radio on the web and open them with the default application, they don't play
[16:37] <Betal> the same for vlc?
[16:39] <badsektur> Betal, 'videos' open it by default
[16:40] <Stinky-Feet> Betal: That seems unrelated to LVM. On my system uid 121 is GDM, the display manager. Sorry - can't help youo with that....
[16:51] <tomreyn> ufk: you're probably authenticating through a local socket, not using a password. try without suppying a password, it probably still works
[16:51] <tomreyn> see the ubuntu release notes for changes in the mysql-server authentication mechanisms
 I want all the firmware for all the wifi cards and other devices.
[16:53] <tomreyn> Betal: more logs could probably help diagnose this. see especilly X and graphics card / driver related logs
[16:54] <tangarora_> and to integrate them on the net.iso
[16:54] <Betal> tomreyn: I tryed to boot on 5.0 and it worked, the error happened on 5.3 kernel
[16:54] <tangarora_> It does not see the wifi cards atheros and the intel one on a T400...
[16:55] <tomreyn> Betal: which error? :)
[16:55] <oerheks> no intel wireless driver in ubuntu, really?
[16:55] <tangarora_> and load the relevant firmware with the : d-i hw-detect/load_firmware boolean true
[16:55] <Betal> the gdm error, failing to start user manager for uid 121 and drop to tty
[16:55] <tangarora_> Not on the net.iso
[16:56] <tangarora_> only onthe full install iso.
[16:56] <oerheks> oh net iso, that is normal yes
[16:56] <tomreyn> Betal: this is probably a follow-up error, try to review the log more closely, or share it here so we can have a look, too
[16:57] <tangarora_> so for debian is just wget the firmware.zip and extract it with the iso and then use xcorriso to make a new iso.
[16:57] <tangarora_> I want to do the same with ubuntus net.isw since they also do not have the firmware there.
[16:57] <tangarora_> net.iso sorry
[16:58] <oerheks> so you want to adjust the net iso installer too, to make it work, etc
[16:58] <oerheks> good luck!
[16:58] <tomreyn> tangarora_: do you mean mini.iso?
[16:58] <tangarora_> I guess what I am asking is: where are the ubuntu files for firmware?
[16:58] <tangarora_> yes the mini.iso
[16:58] <tangarora_> sorry
[16:58] <tangarora_> 50 ish meg in size...
[16:58] <tomreyn> they're in the initrd of the mini.iso
[16:58] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware
[16:58] <tangarora_> all of them?
[16:59] <tangarora_> atheros and intel firmware etc?
[16:59] <Betal> tomreyn: where I can check what the current kernel for ubuntu? or most updated one?
[16:59] <oerheks> then you want wpa-supplicant too
[16:59] <tangarora_> hmm... ok i saw som documentation that is was not... and when you boot it manually it does not ask for wifi...
[16:59] <tomreyn> tangarora_: i don't know, the most common ones probably., just unpack it and have a look?
[17:00] <tangarora_> tomeryn: I was hoping that someone on this list would know the url for the firmware available to ubuntu...
[17:00] <tangarora_> google is not too forthcoming...
[17:01] <tangarora_> :)
[17:02] <tomreyn> Betal: kernel versions differ by ubuntu release. LTS releases typically support two or three different versions. you can use the rmadison command (part of the "devscripts" package), or one of the web interfaces at https://packages.ubuntu.com and https://qa.debian.org/madison.php?table=ubuntu to look up package versions in different ubuntu releases.
[17:05] <tomreyn> tangarora_: most ubuntu software is packaged on launchpad.net/ubuntu
[17:05] <tomreyn> package metadata may also hint on its origin
[17:18] <tangarora_> checking
[17:27] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[17:27] <mahdi_ja> i using ubuntu 18.04
[17:28] <tomreyn> that's cool. hi there.
[17:28] <mahdi_ja> today when i start my pc the my screen size is very large and i can not change display resolution
[17:28] <mahdi_ja> i use nvidia card i switch to open source driver but problem not solved
[17:30] <tomreyn> this may suggest an incompatibility of the proprietary nvidia drivers with the latest kernel version (5.3) which just entered bionic for !LTSE a few days ago.
[17:30] <tomreyn> either that or you just need to update them.. is the system fully updated?
[17:31] <tomreyn> as a temporary workaround, you can reboot, bring up the grub menu and boot into the previous kernel version
[17:31] <mahdi_ja> tomreyn, i update system too
[17:33] <tomreyn> maybe just ensure your system is fully updated using sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[17:33] <tomreyn> ... and when it is run      sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[18:09] <cariveri> Hi. can aynone explain to me, why many different linux distros dont just have different package repos, but again and again a very own package manager?
[18:13] <oerheks> what is the point using existing ideas.
[18:13] <tomreyn> cariveri: comparing different linux distros is maybe more a topic for ##linux
[18:14] <cariveri> tomreyn: Im very sure theyll reroute  me to those distros for not being lelevant to the linux kernel. but ill try.
[18:19] <EdgyMC_69> When using ps -o state, the column is in BSD style?
[18:22] <prappl93> Hey all, I have a server I'm running that has 2 NICs, one configured using a static IP and the other using DHCP. I have the DHCP one in a bridge for 2 VMs, but I'm unable to access the static IP from outside of the server itself. Anyone have any suggestions or would be able to look at my interfaces configuration? This is on Ubuntu Server 16.04
[18:26] <tomreyn> EdgyMC_69: BSD style output is returned when you don't use options which are initiated with a hyphon (e.g.: ps -ef) but only use non hyphon options (e.g.: ps axZ)
[18:27] <tomreyn> prappl93: maybe give this a try in #ubuntu-server
[18:27] <EdgyMC_69> tomreyn so I'm actually writing ps -ax -o state and I got a lot of I's and it's a bit weird to have that many processes in the state of being created.
[18:27] <tomreyn> i'd also recommend ubuntu 18.04 LTS nowadays if you can choose freely.
[18:27] <tomreyn> prappl93: ^
[18:28] <prappl93> tomreyn, thanks. I haven't gotten around to doing the upgrade on my hypervisor yet
[18:28] <EdgyMC_69> or not, the presentation from my uni is wrong, sorry
[18:28] <tomreyn> no worries ;)
[18:28] <digikin> anyone have success with enigmail?
[18:29] <digikin> or is there a better option?
[18:29] <tomreyn> success? in the economic sense?
[18:30] <digikin> with it working in general
[18:30] <tomreyn> i use it occasionally
[18:30] <digikin> creating keys fails, uploading manually keys created fails
[18:30] <tomreyn> hwich server are you uploading to?
[18:30] <digikin> using default Ubuntu Seahorse to generate and import key fails
[18:31] <digikin> hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371
[18:31] <tomreyn> i'd generally recommend doing as much as possible about gpg on the CLI, certainly creating and publishing key material.
[18:32] <tomreyn> generelly, sending keys to this keyserver seems to work, but i have not tried using enigmail
[18:34] <digikin> my key is up there but using the addon with thunderbird to decrypt the keys doesn't work
[18:38] <digikin> whats a better mail client than thunderbird?
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> digikin: you could ask this in #ubuntu-discuss if you want
[18:42] <tomreyn> digikin: enigmail is doing a good job decrypting my secret key here. is there an erro message when you try? also, which ubuntu version are oyu on?
[18:43] <digikin> It kept saying "keep trying with password" but no where did I put my password in anywhere
[18:43] <tomreyn> generally the keyserver situation is a bit precarious currently due to signature spam
[18:43] <digikin> I got it to work by converting the email to .txt format and running gpg --decrypt /Doc/email.txt
[18:44] <tomreyn> and your ubuntu version is?
[18:46] <digikin> 18.04.3
[18:46] <tomreyn> digikin: hmm, that's what i'm using too
[18:46] <digikin> its cool I got it to work through the CLI
[18:47] <tomreyn> dpkg -l thunderbird enigmail
[18:48] <tomreyn> or, better,    apt list --installed thunderbird enigmail
[18:48] <digikin> I am running edge thunderbird so that could be the problem
[18:48] <tomreyn> "edge thunderbird"?
[18:49] <digikin> yeah you can install the latest version of thunderbird
[18:50] <digikin> It never receives updates on regular release but maybe like once every 5 years
[18:50] <tomreyn> ah so you're not using ubuntu's package. then we can't help here.
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> maybe he's using the snap tomreyn
[18:50] <tomreyn> digikin: that's wrong
[18:50] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: how do you know?
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> lets ask :p
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> digikin: are you using thunderbird      68.4.1   ken-vandine ?
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> oh thats same version the  bionics nvm
[18:52] <tomreyn> it says it is anyways
[18:53] <tomreyn> but the deb got patches
[18:54] <tomreyn> digikin: i'd generally recommend using the keys.openpgp.org keyserver nowadays, even though it's always going to fail when you're trying to import keys which others haven't confirmed their e-mail address for, and there are no web of trust signatures on those keys.
[18:55] <digikin> V73 btw
[18:55] <tomreyn> not supported here
[18:56] <tomreyn> also unreleased
[18:56] <digikin> https://download.mozilla.org/?product=thunderbird-73.0b1-SSL&os=linux64&lang=en-US
[18:57] <tomreyn> 'b' stands for beta, i assume?
[18:57] <oerheks> jups, not stable
[18:57] <tomreyn> so released, not stable.
[18:58] <digikin> I was actually looking at when the last update was sent out for the regular release and I believe it was the beginning of this year
[18:58] <digikin> but I think by default updates are disabled unless you turn them on
[18:59] <tomreyn> bionic-updates and bionic-security both have 68.4.1+build1-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
[19:00] <tomreyn> by default, security and software updates are enabled on ubuntu
[19:00] <digikin> no on thunderbird itself
[19:01] <tomreyn> thunderbird updates are not disabled in ubuntu, no.
[19:03] <tomreyn> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/binary/t/thunderbird/1:68.4.1+build1-0ubuntu0.18.04.1/changelog
[19:03] <digikin> go to thunderbird settings > Advanced > Update
[19:03] <tomreyn> oh, that's what you mean. the self-updating mechanism is disabled, yes.
[19:06] <tomreyn> but "It never receives updates on regular release but maybe like once every 5 years" is still plain wrong, as the above changelog shows.
[19:09] <digikin> ok 4 years and 328 days
[19:10] <tomreyn> i can't follow
[19:19] <ckopn> My bluetooth right  headphone have lost sound. I did recconnect but it hasn't helped. Who faced a similar situation?
[21:09] <WoC> how would i go about stting my timezone as "US/Central" ?
[21:10] <WoC> s/stting/setting/
[21:12] <agathezol> There may be GUI ways but I would do it with this: sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Central /etc/localtime
[21:12] <jeremy31> agathezol: time and date settings usually accessed by right clicking on time in notification area
[21:13] <jeremy31> agathezol: sorry, should have highlighted WoC
[21:13] <agathezol> jeremy31, no worries, thanks for responding
[21:17] <WoC> ty agathezol
[21:17] <WoC> afaik there is no gui way, they all seem to use the geographic selection
[21:18] <agathezol> When you select a city, like Chicago for example, it sets the timezone to US/Central
[21:19] <jeremy31> WoC: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-set-or-change-timezone-on-ubuntu-18-04/#changing-the-timezone-using-the-gui
[21:22] <WoC> right, it confirms it, no gui for normal timezones, only geographic
[21:23] <VinceG> After 2 days of trying i can only say... f*** debian... f*** ubuntu... f*** mint...
[21:24] <VinceG> Debain and mint had trouble with the nvidia card and nothing worked... and debian doesnt load most of the websites... after checking/changing the mtu... nameserver... blahblah...
[21:24] <WoC> what's wrong VinceG ?
[21:25] <WoC> just remember to blacklist nouv* and u be good
[21:26] <VinceG> Well.. i installed ubuntu and i cant load most the the websites... at least ubuntu had no trouble with the nividia drivers and i was able to install and "apt-get hold" them...
[21:26] <WoC> which nVidia card ?
[21:27] <VinceG> does it matter?
[21:27] <VinceG> nvidia is not the problem.. at least not with ubuntu
[21:27] <WoC> Just curious
[21:27] <VinceG> 960m
[21:27] <WoC> ok
[21:27] <WoC> Nice
[21:27] <VinceG> its a old laptop i wanted to make into my 2nd work laptop... and due the fact that i wanted to test ubuntu i installed it as dual-boot...
[21:27] <WoC> So, what issues are you having ?
[21:28] <WoC> Guess that you use WiFi ?
[21:28] <VinceG> everything works like a charm... till i try something that needs a connection...like... updating or installing new stuff.... most websites dont load.. some do.. like.. google... google loads... googls docs dont
[21:28] <VinceG> Tryed wifi and lan
[21:29] <WoC> Maybe DNS issues ?
[21:29] <VinceG> checked every possible setting for dns...
[21:29] <VinceG> also disabled ipv6
[21:30] <WoC> I usually do the DNS manual, primary 8.8.8 secondary 8.8.4.4 (Google)
[21:30] <WoC> oops 8.8.8.8
[21:30] <WoC> Ok, sounds good
[21:30] <VinceG> used google dns servers: didn't work...
[21:31] <WoC> Dang... what ISP do you use ?
[21:31] <VinceG> disabled dns... didn't work either
[21:31] <VinceG> a german one... but everything works on windows (same machine.. dual-boot as mentioned) perfect
[21:31] <WoC> cable/dsl/sat/other ?
[21:31] <VinceG> i am from germany btw..
[21:32] <WoC> Viel Spass :)
[21:32] <WoC> <-- Texas
[21:32] <VinceG> ...and it seems like i am not the only one with this problem... its also funny that my stuff is not named eth0 is has weird names like as0os2
[21:32] <VinceG> "Viel Spass :)" yeah... no... not really... i dont have much fun atm
[21:33] <WoC> It's normal, you can change that using net.ifnames=0 to the kernel options
[21:33] <WoC> and you get your eth... wlan... back
[21:34] <VinceG> ok.. that would fix the "weird names"-problem
[21:34] <WoC> Need to change my keyboard config to international ;)
[21:34] <VinceG> but.. the names dont matter if 99% of the websites dont work
[21:35] <WoC> True
[21:35] <WoC> you dont have any proxy or ?
[21:35] <VinceG> nope... disabled it... set it to automatic... also tryed everything there
[21:35] <WoC> That tends to mess things up
[21:36] <WoC> What kind of router ? NAT etc setup?
[21:36] <VinceG> ...i noticed that.. so i also reinstalled ubuntu everytime i changed something
[21:37] <VinceG> Owh... its a cheap router from my isp
[21:37] <WoC> ok, it may have some web interface or something to review the settings
[21:37] <VinceG> its a "speedport" router that does 99% automaticly and doesnt give many options to do stuff manually
[21:38] <WoC> Dang, not even port forwarding etc ?
[21:38] <VinceG> thats one of the few things i can do manually
[21:38] <WoC> Ok, firewall settiings?
[21:39] <VinceG> disabled it for the router... it tended to do stupid stuff
[21:39] <WoC> k
[21:39] <VinceG> but how the f* does everything work on windows and ubuntu acts like "oh fuck nope..."
[21:40] <WoC> upnp
[21:40] <VinceG> automatically enabled on the router
[21:40] <WoC> Right
[21:40] <WoC> that's why winblows uses it
[21:41] <VinceG> well.. at least windows works without any trouble... tbh... windows may be a little bit slower and more restricted but it works
[21:41] <WoC> how about the dhcp ? you lan setup right, as a C net ?
[21:42] <VinceG> also changed that stuff from "Automated" to "Automated (DHCP)" tryed lan and wifi...
[21:42] <WoC> Hmmm, weird
[21:43] <VinceG> yep... thought about installing teamviewer so someone can help me but... ha... teamviewer cant connect to the internet
[21:43] <ducasse> VinceG: please mind the language in here, we try to keep it family friendly
[21:43] <WoC> can you do a traceroute to 8.8.8.8 ?
[21:43] <VinceG> ducasse sry
[21:44] <VinceG> WoC would need to restart and boot into ubuntu for that... can try that tomorrow and its 10pm in germany
[21:44] <VinceG> try to get ubuntu running since 4 hrs now
[21:45] <jeremy31> VinceG: trying ethernet or wifi?
[21:45] <VinceG> tryed both
[21:45] <VinceG> srry tried* <- not my native language
[21:46] <WoC> Ok VinceG best of luck, must be something simple that been overlooked
[21:46] <WoC> Genau
[21:46] <jeremy31> VinceG: might just need to set IPv6 setting to ignore in Network Manager
[21:46] <VinceG> WoC well... if it can be overlooked after checking/changing for 4 hrs... its not simple and as mentioned... i am not the only one with this problem
[21:47] <WoC> It does happen
[21:47] <WoC> Speaking from experience ;)
[21:47] <VinceG> and i have not seen a single post in any forum that has a answer that worked or a user that said "Works now thanks!" :|
[21:47] <VinceG> jeremy31 ipv6 already disabled
[21:48] <jeremy31> VinceG: post in Networking subforum at ubuntuforums.org  see the sticky post https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370108
[21:49] <digikin> Did you select install 3rd party drivers while installing?
[21:50] <VinceG> jeremy31 thanks will do it tomorrow... ironic is that the site doesnt load on ubuntu.. so i have to get all the informations.. save them in a .txt.. move that  to windumb and upload it than. lul
[21:50] <VinceG> digikin yep.. i did.. also tryed it several times without checking the 3rd party option on installation
[21:51] <jeremy31> VinceG: sounds like something wrong with DNS, I never have issues getting on ubuntuforums
[21:53] <WoC> good script, the wireless-info
[21:54] <VinceG> i bet its easier than going trough 20 files and collecting the data manually
[21:56] <VinceG> today in the morning i thought "working with ubuntu would be so much easier than using xampp on slow-a** windows" haaa... ahh... no.
[21:56] <jeremy31> VinceG: It will also mask MAC addresses and some other info
[21:56] <VinceG> Thats good. Hope someone can help me than.
[21:57] <jeremy31> VinceG: askubuntu.com is another site to ask at
[21:58] <VinceG> also doesnt load when i am on ubuntu xD
[21:58] <VinceG> and i think for good help i would need to be on the os so i could check everything right away
[21:59] <jeremy31> VinceG: can you visit https://gist.github.com/jeremyb31/a2bee9856d8c13f42f1835bc31bf9480
[22:00] <VinceG> i am not on ubuntu rn... changed back to winslow
[22:00] <VinceG> Off-Topic: I have like 10000 other names for windows... lul
[22:02] <jeremy31> VinceG: ok
[22:06] <FoldMark> How can I fix this? http://termbin.com/tvvi
[22:08] <tomreyn> use a file system which supports unix acls
[22:11] <WoC> FoldMark, which filesystem is that ?
[22:11] <FoldMark> ext4
[22:12] <FoldMark> WoC: How can double check?
[22:12] <WoC> check with; mount
[22:12] <FoldMark> tomreyn: How can I check which fs it is?
[22:12] <WoC> is will list everything mounted with filesystem
[22:12] <jayjo> what's the best way to encrypt a USB drive in order to store a secret key on it?
[22:13] <jayjo> Is there an ubuntu tool for something like this, or recommendation? I keep seeing veracrypt when I research
[22:14] <tomreyn> findmnt --target /var/log/journal
[22:14] <tomreyn> FoldMark: ^
[22:14] <FoldMark> It’s ZFS
[22:15] <WoC> Hmmm, somehow you are missing the acl support for it
[22:15] <WoC> custom kernel ?
[22:15] <FoldMark> I will run a zfs upgrade
[22:16] <FoldMark> It’s an LX kernel of Joyent SmartOS
[22:16] <FoldMark> Ubuntu runs inside and LX zone
[22:16] <WoC> Hmmm, never heard of... to be honest
[22:16] <FoldMark> Ubuntu runs inside an LX zone
[22:16] <WoC> vm ?
[22:16] <FoldMark> WoC: It’s a hypervisor like VMWare ESXi or Hyper-V
[22:16] <WoC> ok
[22:17] <FoldMark> How can I make the installer redo those parts that failed?
[22:17] <WoC> You would need to fix the fs support and then just re-run the upgrade
[22:18] <WoC> the hypervisor _is_ running as root, right ?
[22:19] <FoldMark> Yes
[22:19] <WoC> Just mking sure...
[22:19] <FoldMark> I just did 'zpool upgrade zones'
[22:21] <WoC> Probably need to check your kernel config too, make sure you have support for acl on zfs
[22:21] <tomreyn> LX branded zones are not virtualization. you are not running an ubuntu kernel, so you're not running ubuntu.
[22:22] <FoldMark> tomreyn: I run Ubuntu 16.04; did a dist-upgrade
[22:22] <FoldMark> However failed.
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[22:23] <FoldMark> WoC: How can I check the kernel config?
[22:23] <tomreyn> you're not running ubuntu
[22:25] <WoC> Looks like it's an issue for LX zone, not ubuntu
[22:44] <Wally> Anyone here got any clues about why a krb5 salt would fail when binding a Ubuntu machine to Active directory?
[22:44] <Wally> I'm reading that there's possible some issues with adcli
[22:48] <tomreyn> are there error messages in AD land?
[22:48] <Wally> Let me dig the error message up again.
[22:49] <Wally> https://pastebin.com/nuwjrxDs
[22:50] <tomreyn> when you have it, /join #windows-server and ask about it, providing an example. if this doesn't help, /join #ubuntu-server and share what you found out so far.
[22:50] <Wally> Oh excellent.
[22:51] <Wally> Not sure if #windows-server will be of help as it's on ubuntu itself.
[22:51] <tomreyn> oh that's actually an adcli error message, you could directly head over to #ubuntu-server then
[22:51] <Wally> Cheers :)
[23:14] <RoseBus> hello if system fails due to power supply where can i find evidence of this?
[23:15] <RoseBus> would it be in logs somewhere?
[23:18] <Wally> No
[23:18] <Wally> Power Supplies don't contain logic chips and are not driven by the computer.
[23:24] <tomreyn> RoseBus: what you *could* (not) see is that the system did not carry out an orderly shutdown before it last booted, by inspecting the last lines in    journalctl -b -1 -e
[23:25] <tomreyn> in case of an orderly shutdown, you'd normally see "systemd-shutdown[1]: Sending SIGTERM to remaining processes..." close to the end of the log (on a systemd managed system)
[23:26] <tomreyn> and "systemd[1]: Shutting down." closely before
[23:26] <tomreyn> (alternatively "Rebooting" if that was requested)
[23:43] <iatr_> Hello
[23:55] <tds> RoseBus: is this a desktop or server machine? you may be able to find more details of issues via the ipmi event log if a server