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[18:32] <zx2c4> apw: ping again?
[18:32] <zx2c4> debian has changed some package things
[18:32] <zx2c4> binary package names are the same :https://packages.debian.org/sid/wireguard https://packages.debian.org/sid/wireguard-dkms https://packages.debian.org/sid/wireguard-tools
[18:33] <zx2c4> binary package names are the same: https://packages.debian.org/sid/wireguard https://packages.debian.org/sid/wireguard-dkms https://packages.debian.org/sid/wireguard-tools
[18:33] <zx2c4> but the source packages are now split into "wireguard" and "wireguard-linux-compat"
[18:33] <zx2c4> https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/wireguard-linux-compat https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/wireguard
[18:51] <apw> zx2c4: fun ... why have they done that now
[19:01] <zx2c4> apw: i guess you havent read any of my emails or the several messages ive sent you on IRC in the last few weeks?
[19:01] <zx2c4> ill resend you stuff
[19:01] <zx2c4> one sec
[19:02] <zx2c4> apw: sent again
[19:02] <zx2c4> can you confirm you got the email and there isnt spam filter stuff happening?
[19:10] <apw> zx2c4: you choose your moments, just accepted fully, and you change names, sigh
[19:11] <zx2c4> apw: wait what?
[19:11] <zx2c4> sorry, but no
[19:11] <zx2c4> i emailed you about this a month ago
[19:11] <zx2c4> a few times
[19:11] <zx2c4> sent you messages in here
[19:11] <zx2c4> poked sultan
[19:11] <zx2c4> have been trying to get in touch with you to coordinate this
[19:18] <cjwatson> zx2c4: the wireguard-linux-compat source package is already in focal-proposed, FYI
[19:19] <zx2c4> oh, really? then what on earth is apw talking about
[19:19] <zx2c4> when he says "just accepted fully, and you change the names"
[19:20] <cjwatson> I'm not going to engage in telephone-game stuff, just giving information
[19:20] <cjwatson> it might be that proposed-migration just needs to be hinted to migrate wireguard and wireguard-linux-compat together; not completely sure
[19:20] <cjwatson> since both are valid candidates
[19:20] <zx2c4> is there anything open source anywhere?
[19:20] <apw> cjwatson: dunno we have delta, so perhaps they are out of sync
[19:21] <zx2c4> both https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/wireguard-tools and https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/wireguard-dkms both indicate old packags
[19:21] <cjwatson> apw: as I say they're both valid candidates
[19:21] <apw> hmmm
[19:21] <zx2c4> ideally you should just import dkg's packages and be done with it
[19:21] <zx2c4> no need to do anything complicated
[19:21] <cjwatson> zx2c4: I'm looking at rmadison output.  packages.ubuntu.com is not the best view
[19:21] <zx2c4> there's been plenty of warning abut this
[19:21] <cjwatson> The source packages in Ubuntu are the Debian packages with minor adjustments on top
[19:21] <zx2c4> cjwatson: link to rmadison? never heard of this
[19:22] <cjwatson> it's in the devscripts package
[19:22] <cjwatson> Or you could look at Launchpad
[19:22] <apw> zx2c4: yeah we were somewhere we understood and now we aren't so that is confusing and work and work is always annoying
[19:22] <zx2c4> ah so i have to install ubuntu
[19:22] <zx2c4> will look at launchpad
[19:22] <cjwatson> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wireguard and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wireguard-linux-compat
[19:22] <zx2c4> apw: yes, this is why ive tried to contact you every single week, sometimes several times, through differing means, for like a month or maybe more
[19:22] <zx2c4> cjwatson: thanks
[19:23] <zx2c4> cjwatson: oh, good, looks like those are up to date
[19:23] <zx2c4> wireguard-linux-compat is one version behind, but i assume the verison bump will trickle down
[19:23] <zx2c4> thats usually just a matte rof time, right?
[19:24] <cjwatson> Will need a manual merge since there's an Ubuntu delta, but probably better to get the current set migrated to focal first
[19:24] <cjwatson> On general principles
[19:24] <apw> cjwatson: yeah I'll poke it
[19:24] <cjwatson> ta
[19:24] <apw> zx2c4: not your fault, I know I am the one burried
[19:25] <zx2c4> cjwatson: for eoan i vaguely recall there being a delta because of a work around for some ubuntu kernel derp
[19:25] <zx2c4> for focal, i dont anticipate that happening again
[19:25] <zx2c4> so not sure there should be a delta. unless im forgetting something?
[19:25] <zx2c4> apw: also, did you ever succeed in building the signed binary module?
[19:25] <cjwatson> The reasoning is described in the changelog
[19:26] <cjwatson> Which is visible from the LP links that I gave you
[19:26] <zx2c4> ah thanks
[19:26] <cjwatson> I haven't looked in detail, but it is clearly not just about "some ubuntu kernel derp" (whatever that means)
[19:26] <zx2c4> oooo, right, getrandom and the demo test
[19:26] <zx2c4> i remember now
[19:26] <zx2c4> you're right
[19:27] <zx2c4> thankfully those two patches are on top of the up-to-date wireguard package
[19:27] <zx2c4> the new wireguard-linux-compat package doesnt have either of those patches
[19:27] <zx2c4> and the one i had in mind has been dropped, per that changelog
[19:27] <zx2c4> so that means the version bump should be a bit easier than usual
[19:28] <zx2c4> ooo apparently this was done a few days ago by ` -- Unit 193 <unit193@ubuntu.com>  Fri, 17 Jan 2020 18:33:54 -0500`
[19:28] <zx2c4> i wonder who that is
[19:29] <cjwatson> That's all the naming I've ever seen for them; AFAIK they're an Ubuntu developer who consistently goes by a pseudonym
[19:35] <apw> zx2c4: I did patches and got stalled
[19:36] <zx2c4> apw: ah, could you pick that back up before focal hits?
[19:37] <zx2c4> meaningful feature parity with the rest of linux seems like a valuable thing to have, given focal release will align more or less with 5.6
[20:41] <hggdh> Although I am pretty sure it must be documented somewhere... could not find it: I installed linux-crashdump (18.04 instance under Azure), and sysrq c to test it. Crash kernel came up as expected (after I increased memory reserved to crashkernel), generated a crash file on /var/crash.
[20:42] <hggdh> but the crash file did NOT have the vmcore. What am I missing (I have never had the need to use crashkernel on Ubuntu, so I am sort of surprised)
[22:34] <apw> zx2c4, ok at least what is there is migrated
[22:36] <zx2c4> wireguard-linux-compat is an old version, as i mentioned above. we're waiting in that to migrate next.
[22:37] <zx2c4> Im not aware of any ubuntu-specific patched that youll need atop wireguard-linux-compat
[22:38] <zx2c4> Seem like binary .ko distributed with the rest of Ubuntu kernel modules will be possible? Or planning on a package called wireguard-modules? Or?
[22:38] <zx2c4> apw: 
[22:39] <apw> zx2c4, that is my plan; likley linux-modules-wireguard i think
[22:42] <zx2c4> Okay. In that case youll want to change the Requires of the wireguard package to use that name instead of wireguard-modules
[22:44] <zx2c4> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/r4Tj6FtJ/Screenshot_20200120-234357.png
[22:44] <zx2c4> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Ic6CZxpM/Screenshot_20200120-234434.png
[22:45] <apw> zx2c4, i'd provide whatever you are expecting
[22:45] <apw> Provides:
[22:45] <zx2c4> Oooo a provides matches a dependency, cool
[22:45] <zx2c4> Thats so much nicer than the crazy metapackage system we have in Gentoo