[00:15] teward: Awesome, that worked. Now, I got it to build, but dput is being stupid and not uploading the source tarball. [00:40] Looks like the .changes file isn't including the tarball for some reason. [02:32] `debuild -S -sa` [02:32] you need to tell it to include the tarball [02:33] it won't include typically when there's an ubuntu changes version line [02:33] which is why i usually `debuild -S -sa` most things [02:33] Eickmeyer: ^ [02:57] teward: Yeah, figured that out myself. I'm still stuggling with the Python issue (FTBFA at the moment). [03:44] * OvenWerks notes that an audio flavour without Ardour is kind of like a linux distro with no kernel. [03:46] Eickmeyer[m]: most of the stuff I can find about systemd for running session stuff is 2014 ish [04:07] OvenWerks: Yeah. It's entirely possible that it hasn't changed, or at least the concepts. [04:07] Unrelated, I can't get Ardour to build. WAF is hating Python3. [04:17] teward: I'm in over my head with Ardour. I've asked the Ardour team for help, but I doubt I'll get any as they would rather have people pay for and download the binaries from their website. [04:18] I see the clock ticking and I don't like what I see. [04:23] Eickmeyer[m]: actually I hope systemd has progressed since 2014 when they were saying "we haven't decided how we will.... but are leaning in this direction" [04:24] OvenWerks: Well, it's a Lennart project, so there's no telling. [04:24] :P [04:24] very "linuxy" [04:32] Eickmeyer[m]: I am giving up on systemd for a bit and will remove FW backend from the controls GUI. Then paste the file and maybe you can push it. [04:32] OvenWerks: Ok, sounds good. [04:38] wierd, just installed glade... and it's deps [04:38] it then shows all those packages as "no longer needed" Use autremove to clean them up... ok, then no glade reinstall now ok. [04:44] Eickmeyer[m]: www.ovenwerks.net/paste/ubuntustudio-controls.glade should go in the controls package: usr/share/ubuntustudio-controls/ directory to replace the one there. [04:45] Eickmeyer[m]: any suitable changelog line will do: firewire backend does not work, use alsa [04:46] or some such. [04:46] Ok, I'll make it work. [04:46] Works the same as now but firewire no longer shows up in the GUI as a back end [04:46] OvenWerks: My son is pulling me away for a bit, but I'll get on that. Robin has pointed me in the direction of a potential fix for the Ardour WAF issue. [04:47] Eickmeyer[m]: ya I think they do know that Ardour does have to keep up... [04:48] Yeah, they do. [04:49] I expect GTK, the parts of it still used, will get replaced with "atk" (AKA ardour widgets) [04:50] but it would be nice to get V6 out soon. Paul is also taking about moving on from c++99 to at least c++11 [04:50] *talking [04:50] This would mean dropping support for winxp and mac before intel [04:56] eickmeyer ovenworks if the issue with nvidia you ran into is recent there definitely was a hiccup going on but I think it was wider than just the low latency kernel. I had 2 laptops (one with kubuntu other with ubuntustudio have severe issues over last week both woth nvidia) [04:56] both with* [05:01] @azbulutlu: Good to know that it wasn't just me then. [05:02] I'll point out that this was the first time I had issues using nvidia and low latency kernel in 5+ years however. (nvidia drivers can cause issues but that isn't specific to low latency kernel [05:02] the recent thing might not have been just ubuntu. one sec [05:03] https://mastodon.art/@eylul/103504535408061290 [05:04] @azbulutlu: as an aside... the first tablet setup in controls will be limited... just one device, one set of buttons, one area, one pressure curve. [05:04] I would have reported this but I had to do 3 fresh installs on 2 computers within a 72 hour period [05:05] I think it is ok but it might be worth labeling it experimental then [05:05] @azbulutlu: I think this needs to be done just to make sure it works and can be tested before release. [05:05] OvenWerks: Do you just need me to yeet this glade file into the existing ubuntustudio-controls and push it? [05:06] Eickmeyer[m]: yes and a a changelog line to suit. [05:06] Ok [05:09] ovenwerks I misunderstood you. I think that is a good idea btw [05:12] @azbulutlu: It allows for the best testing I can do on site too. [05:13] OvenWerks: I can push this, but the next question is if we should upload this to focal, unless you don't think it's ready. [05:13] Eickmeyer[m]: just to master is fine. [05:13] Ok, I'll do that. [05:14] That is I hope you are starting from master to begin with [05:14] Eickmeyer[m]: ^^^ [05:14] Yes, definitely. [05:15] OvenWerks: Done. [05:18] Eickmeyer[m]: I think with systemd I need two unit files. One to start autojack and another to SIGINT or dbus quit it. [05:18] OvenWerks: I'm only familiar with service files, so I don't know how that would work. [05:19] it seems when something is started as a user, it is not connected to the session and so continues to run after the session [05:20] it might be a service file at that. [05:20] Service files are usually loaded at boot. [05:20] Just before DM. [05:20] but there is an exit.target [05:21] how can that happen for user files? [05:21] which user would they start for untill loging happens [05:22] I think I shall have to do a BUNCH OF BOOTS [05:22] Oof. [05:22] (caps lock) [05:22] Still, oof. [05:22] and see what is running before loggin into a session [18:56] OvenWerks, teward : I just called-out doko for basically screwing us over with the omission of Ardour from the Python2 removal list. His response was less than helpful. [19:06] He has agreed to help restore Ardour. [19:07] I've exhausted my brain power for the day porting the wscripts to Python 3. [19:11] I'm mostly frustrated with the AAs for sitting on packages to review for over a month, and any time I request a review I'm met with silence. It's infurating.