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didrocksgood morning07:27
seb128gooood morning desktopers07:32
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers07:45
seb128lut oSoMoN , comment ça va aujourd'hui?07:46
oSoMoNseb128, bien, et toi?07:46
seb128bof, still fighting with that cold, went to bed at 9pm just after dinner yesterday but I'm still caughing this morning07:47
dufluMorning didrocks and oSoMoN07:47
seb128hopefully the long night is going to pay off still though07:47
oSoMoNseb128, take it easy (if possible…)07:50
oSoMoNhey duflu07:50
oSoMoNsalut didrocks07:50
didrockssalut oSoMoN. duflu & seb12808:14
seb128lut didrocks , comment ça va ?08:15
didrocksseb128: pas de rhume ici, donc c’est ok :)08:16
seb128:-)08:16
didrocksbon courage en tout cas !08:16
seb128'ci ! :-)08:18
marcustomlinsonmorning desktoppers09:13
oSoMoNmorning marcustomlinson09:14
seb128hey marcustomlinson, how are you?09:15
marcustomlinsonhey seb128, doing alright thanks, how's the sprint going?09:16
seb128marcustomlinson, good so far but we didn't have our review yet, it's for tomorrow morning09:17
seb128marcustomlinson, good so far but we didn't have our review yet, it's for tomorrow morning09:18
marcustomlinsonseb128: good luck. In the meantime, enjoy the food ;)09:19
seb128thx :)09:19
ricotzgood morning everyone09:24
didrocksgood morning marcustomlinson, ricotz!09:25
ricotzseb128, hi, could you respond to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vala/+bug/1803136 ?09:27
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1803136 in vala (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Update to vala 0.40.17 in bionic" [Low,Fix committed]09:27
ricotzoSoMoN, hi, feel free to push stable changes to firefox beta09:27
ricotzdidrocks, hey09:29
seb128ricotz, k, I did comment though I'm unsure I'm able to defend the fact that it's fine for a SRU to add incompatible changes that lead to other packages to stop building...09:31
ricotzseb128, I owuld argue that gnome-calculator backported some code which triggered this issue, 1:3.28.1-1ubuntu1 built fine09:33
ricotzseb128, thank you for the comment09:34
seb128ricotz, np09:38
seb128ricotz, still the previous gnome-calculator SRU built with the previous vala and stopped building with the SRU so technically it has some sort of incompatible change09:40
seb128ricotz, you get away with it because vala isn't used a lot, if that was gcc doing that it wouldn't fly09:40
ricotzok09:41
seb128kenvandine, marcustomlinson, eog snap fails to build with09:46
marcustomlinsonseb128: with?09:47
seb128sed: can't read data/eog.desktop.in.in: No such file or directory10:05
seb128marcustomlinson, sorry, got pulled into a discussion and had to move then10:05
seb128marcustomlinson, it's probably a trivial change, they renamed the desktop on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/eog/commit/48f83da5e10:05
marcustomlinsonseb128: Although, looks like it's not built from master for a while now. The builder from which it's being published is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+snap/eog10:07
marcustomlinsonso I assume that branch is out of synced with master10:08
seb128marcustomlinson, sorry, the one failing is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+snap/eog-master/10:09
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kenvandineseb128: i'll fix it14:12
seb128kenvandine, thx14:13
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hellsworthgood morning everyone!14:29
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth14:30
marcustomlinsonhey hellsworth14:30
hellsworthhi oSoMoN and marcustomlinson !14:30
didrocksgood morning hellsworth14:31
hellsworthhi didrocks !14:31
hellsworthteam meeting time, no?14:32
oSoMoNyes14:32
hellsworthkenvandine: meeting time :)14:32
kenvandineindeed14:33
kenvandinejust s sec :)14:33
kenvandine#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting -2020-01-2114:34
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jan 21 14:34:35 2020 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.14:34
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kenvandineRoll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (out), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out), Wimpress (out), hellsworth14:34
marcustomlinson\o14:34
oSoMoNo/14:34
seb128hey14:34
hellswortho/14:34
kenvandinequiet day :)14:35
kenvandinelets dive in14:36
kenvandine#topic rls-ff-bugs14:36
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didrockshey14:36
kenvandinehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:36
seb128urg, starting in reverse order14:37
* seb128 is destabilized14:37
kenvandinelol14:37
kenvandinethat's the order in my template :)14:37
kenvandinetkamppeter is working on the cups-browsed bug14:37
kenvandinebug 185961014:38
ubot5bug 1859610 in pygobject (Ubuntu Focal) "python-gi/arm64 segfaults with the focal-proposed libffi version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185961014:38
kenvandinedo we want to take that?14:38
seb128that's fixed in proposed14:38
seb128I will update the bug14:38
kenvandineoh, thanks14:38
seb128tkamppeter, do you need more info for the cups one? it's suprising that you can't reproduce, did you try to a fresh focal install?14:39
tkamppeterseb128, I have tried on an FF virtual machine, and there I did not get this crash.14:39
seb128:(14:39
tkamppeterThe configuration there is the standard one.14:40
tkamppeterI have a little bit the feeling that it is somewhere deep in Avahi.14:40
seb128try maybe in an env without printer available?14:40
seb128avahi didn't change in years though14:40
seb128the reports statted with the focal update of cups-filters14:41
seb128kenvandine, anyway, let's not me delay the meeting on that one, we can discuss after the meeting14:41
kenvandineyeah14:41
tkamppeteryes, Avahi's maintainer has no time to do further development :(14:41
kenvandinehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:41
kenvandinewhat's up with the NM bug there?14:43
kenvandinebug 173332114:43
ubot5bug 1733321 in network-manager (Ubuntu Focal) "network-manager ADT tests fail with on ppc64el with artful/linux 4.13.0.17.18" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173332114:43
kenvandinethat's old, but added focal and friends last month14:43
kenvandineguess we don't have anyone to work on it anyway14:43
seb128we said we would review the NMs one in a manager meeting but still didn't14:44
seb128I recommend we skip them again this week14:44
kenvandineskipped :)14:44
kenvandine#topic rls-ee-bugs14:44
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kenvandinenothing incoming14:44
kenvandinehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:45
seb128only nm that we are skipping I think?14:45
kenvandinethe unassigned mutter bug, which is in proposed14:45
kenvandineso moving on14:46
kenvandine#topic rls-bb-bugs14:46
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kenvandinebug 185589314:46
ubot5bug 1855893 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Properly let PCM leave suspended state when hardware doesn't support PCM resume" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185589314:46
seb128we agreed on track it, I assigned but failed to nominate it looks like, I'm going to fix that now14:47
kenvandineshould that still be incoming?14:47
kenvandinethanks14:47
kenvandinehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:47
kenvandinejust NM14:48
kenvandinethat's it14:48
Laneyjust noted that down14:48
Laneyin the notes for that meeting14:49
Laneyto visit there14:49
kenvandinehey Laney14:49
Laneyyo14:49
* Laney can't see screen very well14:49
kenvandinewant to talk autopackage?14:49
kenvandineor skip this week14:49
Laneyi havent looked, sorry about that, this is the first time I opened my laptop today :(14:50
Laneymaybe seb128 is up to date tho14:50
kenvandineno worries14:50
seb128what?14:50
Laneyexcuses14:50
seb128I lost context14:50
seb128are you refering to proposed migration? if so yes I can handle that part14:50
kenvandineyes14:50
Laneywait we didn't do any -incoming?14:51
kenvandineyes we did ;)14:51
seb128Ken started in reverse order14:51
seb128we just finish with bionic :p14:51
kenvandineyeah, sorry :)14:51
seb128sorry I didn't see your "autopackage" mention14:51
seb128#topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages14:51
Laneyoh yeah you just linked the ff one only ;-)14:51
kenvandine#topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages14:52
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seb128thx14:52
seb128so it's going to be easy14:52
seb128$biglist which is due mostly to14:52
seb128- python-gi/armhhf being broken unless you manually retry with a right list of triggers14:53
seb128- libffi soname transition14:53
seb128- build-essential:amd64 not being installable breaking all the i386 tests14:54
seb128those things are being worked on and not specific to us14:54
seb128in the real issue issues there is openscad/s390x which I've been trying to argue we should skip even if it's a real bug because we don't support graphical stack on s390x14:55
seb128gscan2pdf/arm64 seems to be hanging, Laney  was looking at that14:55
Laneyyes14:55
Laneyi didn't get back to it today though sorry14:55
seb128the new n-m made tests unhappy, I plan to look at that since I did the update14:56
seb128glib14:56
seb128    xdg-desktop-portal: i38614:56
seb128is also my fault and I will fix14:56
seb128and I think that's it14:56
kenvandineok14:56
kenvandine#topic aob14:56
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seb128A reminder that updates are due on discourse on monday, if you have monday off best to post the friday before14:57
seb128(that stands also for people travelling, I forgot as well and took a note to do it on friday next time before leaving)14:58
kenvandineindeed, with a long weekend it can be hard to remember what you did :)14:58
kenvandineanything else?14:58
seb128I don't think so14:59
kenvandinegoing... going...14:59
Trevinhoall good here14:59
seb128the mid-cycle sprint is going well so far, no surprise nor change of plans14:59
kenvandineyay14:59
seb128bonjourno Trevinho  :)14:59
kenvandine#endmeeting14:59
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jan 21 14:59:45 2020 UTC.14:59
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-01-21-14.34.moin.txt14:59
seb128looks like a wrap then14:59
Trevinhohi seb12814:59
seb128thanks kenvandine !14:59
didrocksthx!14:59
hellsworththanks!15:01
oSoMoNthanks15:01
bittinAny Desktop Team Meeting today in 9 minutes ?18:11
marcustomlinsonbittin: meeting is 14:30 UTC every Tuesday18:22
marcustomlinsonI probably didn't make that clear last time :P18:22
marcustomlinsonhttp://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-01-21-14.34.moin.txt18:22
bittinmarcustomlinson: ah sorry thanks :)18:22
bittinmarcustomlinson: done reading now there was also a Firefox bugfix build today 72.0.2 but i am sure you are aware: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/72.0.2/releasenotes/18:30
bittincya next week18:30

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