[07:27] good morning [07:32] gooood morning desktopers [07:45] good morning desktoppers [07:46] lut oSoMoN , comment ça va aujourd'hui? [07:46] seb128, bien, et toi? [07:47] bof, still fighting with that cold, went to bed at 9pm just after dinner yesterday but I'm still caughing this morning [07:47] Morning didrocks and oSoMoN [07:47] hopefully the long night is going to pay off still though [07:50] seb128, take it easy (if possible…) [07:50] hey duflu [07:50] salut didrocks [08:14] salut oSoMoN. duflu & seb128 [08:15] lut didrocks , comment ça va ? [08:16] seb128: pas de rhume ici, donc c’est ok :) [08:16] :-) [08:16] bon courage en tout cas ! [08:18] 'ci ! :-) [09:13] morning desktoppers [09:14] morning marcustomlinson [09:15] hey marcustomlinson, how are you? [09:16] hey seb128, doing alright thanks, how's the sprint going? [09:17] marcustomlinson, good so far but we didn't have our review yet, it's for tomorrow morning [09:18] marcustomlinson, good so far but we didn't have our review yet, it's for tomorrow morning [09:19] seb128: good luck. In the meantime, enjoy the food ;) [09:19] thx :) [09:24] good morning everyone [09:25] good morning marcustomlinson, ricotz! [09:27] seb128, hi, could you respond to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vala/+bug/1803136 ? [09:27] Ubuntu bug 1803136 in vala (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Update to vala 0.40.17 in bionic" [Low,Fix committed] [09:27] oSoMoN, hi, feel free to push stable changes to firefox beta [09:29] didrocks, hey [09:31] ricotz, k, I did comment though I'm unsure I'm able to defend the fact that it's fine for a SRU to add incompatible changes that lead to other packages to stop building... [09:33] seb128, I owuld argue that gnome-calculator backported some code which triggered this issue, 1:3.28.1-1ubuntu1 built fine [09:34] seb128, thank you for the comment [09:38] ricotz, np [09:40] ricotz, still the previous gnome-calculator SRU built with the previous vala and stopped building with the SRU so technically it has some sort of incompatible change [09:40] ricotz, you get away with it because vala isn't used a lot, if that was gcc doing that it wouldn't fly [09:41] ok [09:46] kenvandine, marcustomlinson, eog snap fails to build with [09:47] seb128: with? [10:05] sed: can't read data/eog.desktop.in.in: No such file or directory [10:05] marcustomlinson, sorry, got pulled into a discussion and had to move then [10:05] marcustomlinson, it's probably a trivial change, they renamed the desktop on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/eog/commit/48f83da5e [10:07] seb128: Although, looks like it's not built from master for a while now. The builder from which it's being published is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+snap/eog [10:08] so I assume that branch is out of synced with master [10:09] marcustomlinson, sorry, the one failing is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+snap/eog-master/ === ondra_ is now known as ondra [14:12] seb128: i'll fix it [14:13] kenvandine, thx === heather1 is now known as hellsworth [14:29] good morning everyone! [14:30] good morning hellsworth [14:30] hey hellsworth [14:30] hi oSoMoN and marcustomlinson ! [14:31] good morning hellsworth [14:31] hi didrocks ! [14:32] team meeting time, no? [14:32] yes [14:32] kenvandine: meeting time :) [14:33] indeed [14:33] just s sec :) [14:34] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting -2020-01-21 [14:34] Meeting started Tue Jan 21 14:34:35 2020 UTC. The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [14:34] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting -2020-01-21 | Current topic: [14:34] Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (out), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out), Wimpress (out), hellsworth [14:34] \o [14:34] o/ [14:34] hey [14:34] o/ [14:35] quiet day :) [14:36] lets dive in [14:36] #topic rls-ff-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting -2020-01-21 | Current topic: rls-ff-bugs [14:36] hey [14:36] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html [14:37] urg, starting in reverse order [14:37] * seb128 is destabilized [14:37] lol [14:37] that's the order in my template :) [14:37] tkamppeter is working on the cups-browsed bug [14:38] bug 1859610 [14:38] bug 1859610 in pygobject (Ubuntu Focal) "python-gi/arm64 segfaults with the focal-proposed libffi version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1859610 [14:38] do we want to take that? [14:38] that's fixed in proposed [14:38] I will update the bug [14:38] oh, thanks [14:39] tkamppeter, do you need more info for the cups one? it's suprising that you can't reproduce, did you try to a fresh focal install? [14:39] seb128, I have tried on an FF virtual machine, and there I did not get this crash. [14:39] :( [14:40] The configuration there is the standard one. [14:40] I have a little bit the feeling that it is somewhere deep in Avahi. [14:40] try maybe in an env without printer available? [14:40] avahi didn't change in years though [14:41] the reports statted with the focal update of cups-filters [14:41] kenvandine, anyway, let's not me delay the meeting on that one, we can discuss after the meeting [14:41] yeah [14:41] yes, Avahi's maintainer has no time to do further development :( [14:41] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:43] what's up with the NM bug there? [14:43] bug 1733321 [14:43] bug 1733321 in network-manager (Ubuntu Focal) "network-manager ADT tests fail with on ppc64el with artful/linux 4.13.0.17.18" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1733321 [14:43] that's old, but added focal and friends last month [14:43] guess we don't have anyone to work on it anyway [14:44] we said we would review the NMs one in a manager meeting but still didn't [14:44] I recommend we skip them again this week [14:44] skipped :) [14:44] #topic rls-ee-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting -2020-01-21 | Current topic: rls-ee-bugs [14:44] nothing incoming [14:45] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:45] only nm that we are skipping I think? [14:45] the unassigned mutter bug, which is in proposed [14:46] so moving on [14:46] #topic rls-bb-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting -2020-01-21 | Current topic: rls-bb-bugs [14:46] bug 1855893 [14:46] bug 1855893 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Properly let PCM leave suspended state when hardware doesn't support PCM resume" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1855893 [14:47] we agreed on track it, I assigned but failed to nominate it looks like, I'm going to fix that now [14:47] should that still be incoming? [14:47] thanks [14:47] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:48] just NM [14:48] that's it [14:48] just noted that down [14:49] in the notes for that meeting [14:49] to visit there [14:49] hey Laney [14:49] yo [14:49] * Laney can't see screen very well [14:49] want to talk autopackage? [14:49] or skip this week [14:50] i havent looked, sorry about that, this is the first time I opened my laptop today :( [14:50] maybe seb128 is up to date tho [14:50] no worries [14:50] what? [14:50] excuses [14:50] I lost context [14:50] are you refering to proposed migration? if so yes I can handle that part [14:50] yes [14:51] wait we didn't do any -incoming? [14:51] yes we did ;) [14:51] Ken started in reverse order [14:51] we just finish with bionic :p [14:51] yeah, sorry :) [14:51] sorry I didn't see your "autopackage" mention [14:51] #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages [14:51] oh yeah you just linked the ff one only ;-) [14:52] #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting -2020-01-21 | Current topic: update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages [14:52] thx [14:52] so it's going to be easy [14:52] $biglist which is due mostly to [14:53] - python-gi/armhhf being broken unless you manually retry with a right list of triggers [14:53] - libffi soname transition [14:54] - build-essential:amd64 not being installable breaking all the i386 tests [14:54] those things are being worked on and not specific to us [14:55] in the real issue issues there is openscad/s390x which I've been trying to argue we should skip even if it's a real bug because we don't support graphical stack on s390x [14:55] gscan2pdf/arm64 seems to be hanging, Laney was looking at that [14:55] yes [14:55] i didn't get back to it today though sorry [14:56] the new n-m made tests unhappy, I plan to look at that since I did the update [14:56] glib [14:56] xdg-desktop-portal: i386 [14:56] is also my fault and I will fix [14:56] and I think that's it [14:56] ok [14:56] #topic aob === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting -2020-01-21 | Current topic: aob [14:57] A reminder that updates are due on discourse on monday, if you have monday off best to post the friday before [14:58] (that stands also for people travelling, I forgot as well and took a note to do it on friday next time before leaving) [14:58] indeed, with a long weekend it can be hard to remember what you did :) [14:58] anything else? [14:59] I don't think so [14:59] going... going... [14:59] all good here [14:59] the mid-cycle sprint is going well so far, no surprise nor change of plans [14:59] yay [14:59] bonjourno Trevinho :) [14:59] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc [14:59] Meeting ended Tue Jan 21 14:59:45 2020 UTC. [14:59] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-01-21-14.34.moin.txt [14:59] looks like a wrap then [14:59] hi seb128 [14:59] thanks kenvandine ! [14:59] thx! [15:01] thanks! [15:01] thanks [18:11] Any Desktop Team Meeting today in 9 minutes ? [18:22] bittin: meeting is 14:30 UTC every Tuesday [18:22] I probably didn't make that clear last time :P [18:22] http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-01-21-14.34.moin.txt [18:22] marcustomlinson: ah sorry thanks :) [18:30] marcustomlinson: done reading now there was also a Firefox bugfix build today 72.0.2 but i am sure you are aware: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/72.0.2/releasenotes/ [18:30] cya next week