[00:00] ctrlbreak: so lets start with... we get that you're having an issue with DNS... repeating that it's broken isn't going to help a volunteer to know what to propose to help you fix it [00:01] ctrlbreak: So start at the beginning... how did you install Ubuntu, are you using desktop or server? How is your network setup? What causes you to perceive that DNS is broken. [00:01] I have been running 18.04 for the better part of 2 years and haven't had any DNS issues. [00:01] Well, it's clearly a known issue based on the limited googling done so far. Unfortuantely, none of the proposed hacky fixes seem functional. [00:02] <_Sym_> try cloudflare dns [00:02] minimal install via netboot.xyz PXE load. Openssh only package. Everything installed fine. Came back a day later... can't resolve anything. [00:03] nslookup ... test the DHCP/DNS server directly for resolution, works fine. [00:03] Why doesn't 'netplan' set up DHCP DNS properly? [00:05] https://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+18.04+netplan+dns+is+broken [00:06] I'll work through it... I just find it kind of hard to believe. [00:06] ctrlbreak: worked fine for me in 18.04 [00:07] I'm happy you weren't impacted. [00:09] systemd-resolve --status even lists the proper resolvers. [00:12] ctrlbreak: this was a secured ssh server you put in there,,, or at least not open to the open Internet? [00:13] Correct. I'm ssh'd to it now. All local subnet communications work. [00:13] Hmmm... interestingly, I think this actually goes deeper than DNS... [00:14] it... has... no default route. What in the... [00:15] lol... "Looking at /sbin/dhclient-script, if at least one classless static route is provided to the DHCP client, it disregards the router setting, hence no default route set." [00:15] Yikes. Why in the world would someone do this? [00:16] Welp... time to lobotomize a fresh install of Ubuntu. Apparently it can't handle static routes being pushed to it :-S [00:17] ctrlbreak: IP assigned from the router? [00:19] guessing the router has defined routes to push, they're not being accepted/recognized by Ubuntu at the moment [00:19] jeremy31: I would asume they're pushing a static ip from the router, but don't think that's the issue [00:32] Yes. I am. I'm pushing a small /24 route via DHCP Option 121 to facilitate some funky 'lateral DMZ' movement between 2 subnets via an alternate GW at the moment. Other OS's don't seem to have a problem with this... but apparently Ubuntu does. [00:33] ctrlbreak: at least it appears you have gotten closer to the potential problem there [00:33] oh for sure. I just never imagined it would be something this absolutely obscure. [01:05] ctrlbreak: my Ubuntu DNS works fine [01:05] k [01:05] ctrlbreak: maybe your issue is something "localaized" to your environment else all ubuntu users would be echoing your issue [01:07] More related to some other obscure Ubuntu issue... but there was pretty certainly a DNS issue w/18.04 https://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+18.04+netplan+dns+is+broken [01:21] Anyonoe familiar with multipass, knowo how to rename an instance after it's already been created? [01:29] kelbizzle: does this help https://github.com/canonical/multipass/issues/255 [01:29] specifically https://github.com/canonical/multipass/issues/255#issuecomment-467993224 [01:34] somehow my 18.04 suddenly had issues from yesterday, when I move my mouse to chrome's bookmark bars, i saw a hint of the name of the bookmark bar(e.g. its URL or title), however some of them are messed up texts, it's like the text lines overlap each other === BrianG61UK__ is now known as BrianG61UK [01:35] not all of them though. could this be related to locales? a check about locales turned out to be fine, all en_US.UTF-8 [01:36] changes like this can cause me days to debug :( [01:36] it's not just chrome, many applications too [01:37] leftyfb I was able to find that. and that does work for creating them initially. Thank you. [01:38] leftyfb I'm trying to avoid having to reconfigure the instance I setup. [01:38] but I will just to have a name that is shorter to type lol. Thanks again. [02:02] ubuntu 18.04 default x-windows(not wayland) totally messed up text-hints on mouse-over events(mouse over to some menus, for example) [02:02] wayland can avoid that but will cause other usability issues for me, sucks [02:07] rr123_: not sure what you're even talking about. [02:08] tool tips? [02:16] ryuo: yes [02:17] the tool tips text messed up 70% of the time [02:17] sounds like graphical corruption. [02:17] rr123_: what flavor? [02:17] tried lightdm, gdm3, now thinking about gnome flashback, strangely, wayland has all tool tips intact [02:17] ah, regular ubuntu? [02:17] running gdm3 under regular ubuntu now [02:17] might be a driver or GPU bug. [02:18] i've seen that before. graphical corruption before a tooltip fads in on MATE. [02:18] it occurred since yesterday [02:18] let me check the graphics driver [02:18] if it's intel it should be modesetting. [02:19] driver=radeon [02:19] radeon? your GPU is AMD? [02:20] i believe so [02:20] i think it might be recent kernel update caused this [02:20] are you using the HWE stack? [02:20] i was reminded need a reboot, i rebooted, then got this [02:20] iirc, it switched to the 5.3.x kernel recently. [02:20] i don't think i'm using HWE [02:21] 5.3.0-26-generic [02:21] that's HWE. [02:21] try booting the 5.0 kerne that should still be installed. [02:21] you can get that option from grub2 if you interrupt the boot [02:21] try pressing esc or other keys during bootu [02:21] dpkg -l | grep -i hwe [02:21] bootup [02:22] linux-generic-hwe-18.04 5.3.0.26.95 [02:22] yea, that's HWE. [02:22] i think i might be using hwe [02:22] the original kernel for bionic was 4.15 [02:22] xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-hwe-18.04 19.0.1-1~18.04.1 [02:22] rr123_: like i said, try booting an older kernel. [02:23] ok let me try [02:23] if that fixes it, then it's some kind of kernel regression. [02:23] let me try, be back soon [02:23] thanks! [02:25] hey guys I just converted to Raid 1 and now I cant do apt upgrade. Im getting this error https://pastebin.com/e1LgJx9f [02:25] just rebooted, 5.0.0-37 old kernel does not help, strange [02:26] rr123_: it could be a userspace stack issue. [02:26] i only have two kernels around somehow [02:26] rr123_: though i'm out of ideas. [02:26] rr123_: is this a ryzen system? [02:26] xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-video-ati-hwe-18.04 ...there are so many xorg-videos drivers, not sure which one I'm using and how can I choose [02:27] r416a: i'd try removing that old kernel. [02:27] r416a: apt autoremove --purge -y linux-image-4.15.0-70-generic [02:27] rr123_: assuming you have a newer kernel available. [02:27] r416a: ^ === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:28] it worked fine until yesterday :( [02:28] rr123_: what is the machine in question? [02:28] just checked grub yes I have lots of kernel inside grub.cfg [02:28] dell x8300 i7, an old model [02:28] oh, that's good. [02:28] ryuo: how do I check if I have a newer kernel? I've never had to deal with anything like this before. [02:29] r416a: uname -a [02:29] Im also new to linux [02:29] rr123_: well, i have a suggestion. your machine is so old you don't need HWE. i'd suggest reinstalling from an earlier release of your flavor that doesn't use HWE. that should clear it up. [02:30] 18.04.1 or so [02:30] you can just do a full dist-upgrade to get caught up after. [02:30] ryuo: I have 4.15.0-72 and its trying to upgrade 4.15.0-70. I assume I'm ok to remove it? [02:30] too many content in use i will live with the messed up of tooltips for now until 20.04 is out then, probably with a new machine too [02:31] thanks for the help [02:31] r416a: just remove the -70 version. that should clear it up. [02:31] r416a: though fyi, i wouldn't suggest trying to convert an existing installation from one type to another after installation unless you're very familiar with how linux works. [02:32] r416a: there's a lot that can go wrong if you don't know what you're doing. [02:32] improper permissions among other things. [02:32] always backup, or try it inside virtualbox first [02:33] ryuo: im getting this error trying to remove it. [02:33] ryuo: https://pastebin.com/SaP730A0 [02:33] rr123_: I have a lattitude E5530 i maxed out. [02:33] rr123_: it works fine with the 4.15 kernel. [02:33] :) [02:33] and it's ivy bridge. ancient. [02:34] 16G RAM [02:34] r416a: oh, that bugger. [02:35] r416a: this must be a server. that package isn't included with anything else. [02:35] r416a: what's your bootloader? grub2? if so you should just remove that extraneous grub. [02:36] apt autoremove --purge -y grub-legacy-ec2 [02:36] it's only useful if you're using ec2. === daniel is now known as Guest65728 [02:40] ryuo: I think I have something messed up with my partitions. I was trying to find what bootloader I have and it says one of my drives has a corrupt gpt table. My mdadm raid partition is fine though... I believe I have grub 2 though. [02:40] ok.. [02:40] you probably corrupted the backup GPT. [02:41] that's quite likely if you're not familiar with mdadm. it can store its metadata in the same place the backup GPT is stored. [02:42] is there an iso (1910) for legacy bios use ? (if so, please prove a download url ? [02:43] 19.10 that is [02:43] WoC: ubuntu ISOs are hybrids. the same one that's good for UEFI is good for BIOS. [02:43] ok, i'll try the 18.04 [02:43] ryuo: well everything besides not being able to upgrade seems to be working and when I do mdadm --detail the raid it all good. [02:43] the 19.10 no-go [02:43] WoC: what's the issue? [02:43] Won't boot it [02:44] WoC: what hardware? [02:44] doesnt identify it as bootable [02:44] legacy bios amd64, msi [02:44] uh... how did you prepare the media? [02:45] dd [02:45] so, usb key. [02:45] Aye [02:45] Same boots on a uefi machine, no issues [02:45] did you try other usb ports? [02:46] you said it doesn't even show up. that could be for many reasons. [02:46] This booted other things,. same port, same key [02:46] i don't know then. it should boot. [02:46] Aye [02:46] but this is partly why i bought an iodd2531... [02:47] there is a way to use grub to boot it, but i dont recall [02:47] i've found CD/DVD media to be more reliable. [02:47] iodd2531 lets me simulate the ISO media as a virtual drive. [02:47] no burning required. [02:47] but yea [02:47] sorry it's not working out for you. [02:47] but [02:47] there's no bios only media. [02:47] it's all unified so it should work. [02:48] ok [02:48] Trying the netboot iso as well [02:48] did you try using a different usb flash drive? [02:48] sometimes changing up the hardware helps. [02:49] 'll try that next, after the netboot iso [02:50] ty [02:57] So Im running mdadm raid one with two drives of different sizes. I have a partition on the bigger drive that is the same size as the smaller drive and then mdadm uses the partition and the whole smaller drive to make the raid. when I do fdisk -l I get this https://pastebin.com/7qmkfsnz and it says the smaller drives primary gpt table is corrupt. Looking at the raid, it seems fine https://pastebin.com/K0e3eu4A [03:00] what directory are launchers stored again? [03:00] * jmadero always forgets [03:00] usr/share/applications i think [03:01] perfect, thanks === kantlive- is now known as kantlivelong [03:19] ryuo: iirc the mini iso is only set up for legacy boot, not uefi, unless that has changed recently [03:34] just out of curiosity, have dvd's been phased out of uefi as a secure boot method? [03:38] Ubuntu apparently installed CPU microcode. I did not want that. It's like if you buy a cookbook, that doesn't give the writer the right to come to your house and cook a recipe with your food without asking [03:38] DarwinElf: this isnt the complaints channel [03:38] ok, well how do I revert back to the old CPU microcode. That's the problem [03:38] stick to ubuntu support questions please [03:39] it is one [03:39] Ubuntu installed that, now I want it reverted [03:40] if Intel made changes that prevent the Mangement Engine Cleaner (me cleaner) from working then this microcode shouldn't have been installed. You didn't have permission [03:40] HiddenDjinn: why would they? that would also hinder installing windows. [03:41] DarwinElf: microcode applied by Ubuntu is not permanent. what are you looking to do? [03:41] DarwinElf: revert to BIOS' microcode? [03:41] because removing Ubuntu's microcode package probably isn't enough. Where do you store people's old microcode... or was that not taken into account? I merely want to revert to the state before that package was installed without permission [03:42] it's not BIOS microcode, it's CPU microcode [03:42] ... [03:42] ryuo, actually, on this pc, when secureboot is enabled, it refuses to read the dvd [03:42] those are separate [03:42] DarwinElf: yes, but it can be uploaded by either the BIOS or the OS. [03:42] the BIOS code is on the system-/logic-/main-/mother-board. The CPU microcode is on the CPU of any CPU that you install in that system-board [03:43] ... nevermind, you're not listening. [03:43] no, you aren't [03:43] right. [03:43] i'm not talking about flashing the BIOS (which is in the BIOS chip.) I'm talking about reverting CPU microcode (which is in the CPU, not in the BIOS chip. BIOS has zero to do with this) [03:44] and you don't know what you're talking about. the BIOS typically also contains microcode to upload a newer microcode during CPU initialization. [03:45] if I removed the CPU and put it in a different board with a different BIOS... it's still the CPU code I need to change back [03:45] so if you wish to revert, you can either downgrade the package and then pin it, or remove it entirely. [03:45] DarwinElf: https://superuser.com/questions/935217/how-is-microcode-loaded-to-processor [03:45] it doesn't matter that the BIOS is capable of doing it [03:45] ... [03:45] the cpu is initialized with microcode each boot...the bios sends its microcode on boot, ubuntu sends its microcode at load [03:45] what is wrong with you? microcode updates aren't permanent. [03:46] alright, so that's what I needed to know [03:46] the only permanent one of any sort is the BIOS one. [03:46] i'm sure microsoft does the same with windows [03:47] HiddenDjinn: am I bad at explaining or something? [03:47] ryuo, no, i'm just good at breaking it down a little further === Leion1 is now known as Leion [06:45] I can connect to any Wi-Fi networks except for my company corporate Wi-Fi. Running Ubuntu 19.10. Wi-Fi chip: Broadcom BCM4350, but I tried with other USB Wi-Fi adapters as well. Any clue why or how I should proceed with debugging? Getting this error message in /var/log/syslog: ctrl-event-assoc-reject bssid=00:00:00:00:00:00 status_code=16 [06:50] dataviruset: timing out...consult your corporate IT for assistance [06:50] could they be using mac address filters? [06:51] dataviruset: or just use a windows PC or macbook like everyone else [06:51] dataviruset: you'll need to consult corp IT in any event if you attempt to proceed to use the corporate network [06:52] I asked them, they said they didn't have any filters. I am using a MacBook actually, but with Ubuntu [06:53] dataviruset: have you tried to connect any other non corporate managed or owned devices to the corporate network? [06:53] yes, my phone, and it works :D [06:55] dataviruset: you've used two different WLAN/wireless adapters unsuccessfully, the common denominator being your macbook with ubuntu installed...you'll probably want to see if you can hand it over to corporate IT and let them get it connected [06:57] dataviruset: have you tried connecting via a cable/wire? [06:58] Sure, they might even have some clues in their access point controller logs. The problem is that I'm the only one running Ubuntu in the office so they kinda don't support it. I have a colleague running Debian but with other hardware and it works. Right now I'm connected to my phone via USB, using it as a Wi-Fi-to-wired router hehe [07:04] Hi, I have a tech question here [07:04] I have Ubuntu on my device, at some point in the last 24 hours or so, it appears my hard drive [07:04] Became unseated [07:05] So my Lenovo laptop showed HDD0 not found. I unscrewed it and was able to push it back into place. It now boots except: [07:05] On startup/shutdown I keep seeing /dev/sda xxxx blocks clean [07:05] xxx files something [07:05] also every few min I see a weird system error [07:06] that's expected [07:06] weird error isn't enough detail to make head or tails of anything but you're able to use the ubuntu system so it's not a show stopper [07:06] Right [07:07] I don't have super important data or anything. Is it likely the OS was corrupted? [07:07] It's not a very specifc error. unexpected error, send report? [07:08] why dont you run testdisk/lifeguardtools to be sure? [07:08] I checked journalctl and it looks like it's xorg.gnome.shell [07:08] Actually, I should be more specific I guess What tools DO what for me [07:09] I tried Ubuntu repair filesystem. It says it's undamged after like 3 seconds [07:09] carry on business as usual [07:10] @tatertots You think so? [07:10] I'm guessing the machine was asleep when this happened. (I am guessing someone may have dropped it while I was at work) [07:10] secure your drive in your laptop as to not repeat the same thing in the future [07:12] if you consider your system important then you should have a back up for disaster recovery purposes [07:12] I don't have anything important that's not backed up really. [07:12] if you don't have a back up and elect to not make a back up after experiencing this incident ...your system isn't important [07:13] Most of my "important " files live in cloud or on work machines/servers [07:15] I've been trying to run fsck (is that the same thing that runs in the Gnome GUI when I right click the partition and "check"? [07:18] the system already ran fsck on it's own and it's currently "undamaged" [07:19] I see. [07:19] you can run it again manually but you'll probably continue to see "undamaged" [07:20] trying to run it manually from the OS doesn't work (filesystem mounted) trying from a live USB boot yields "fsck from util-linux 2.31.1" and nothing more [07:22] What do you recommend I do about the recurring pop up? [07:23] I am mainly using this machine for continuing education. [07:24] eviv3999: google and you shall find. [07:25] eviv3999: "pve nag" *hint* [07:26] Googling revealed to me that deleting the /var/errors entry would prevent issues (not necessarily the right name) I did that. It seems the error came back [07:31] eviv3999: ohh, i thougth it was the subscription popup when you logging into the webinterface. sorry. [07:37] I would guess my other question would be in a technical sense would an SSD getting disconnected be highly likely to cause permanent damage? [08:27] guys can i reinstall my 18.04 on my existing 18.04 using usb iso image ? [08:27] without losing applications, program and data ?. i mean just reinstall os level files etc and dont touch my apps? [08:28] Whats not working? [08:30] FingerlessGloves: fn keys , volume up and down , brightness control was not working earlier but i fixed it by doing some grub changes . i just tried running virtualbox and i got kernel driver not installed , according to pragmaticenigma , even though my upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 was done successfully still i lost some crucial files etc, which is causing this problem [08:30] hey [08:30] FingerlessGloves: Is it possible to reinstall everything without losing softwares data etc [08:31] I did GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=90 and uncommented grub_timeout but still it's not hidden [08:31] update-grub as well i did [08:31] also , i want to know what is the correct way of making backups? do i need to use some software ? or should i make a whole partition backup? [08:32] jackhum, probably just missing kernel package. [08:32] jackhum, do apt purge virtualbox-* and then install it again [08:33] FingerlessGloves: but what about my fn key problem/ [08:33] I thought you fixed that? [08:33] GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true what does true mean here [08:34] FingerlessGloves: nope , i jumped my kernel version to 5 and still i am getting nothing [08:34] Oh did you jump to HWE kernel? [08:34] FingerlessGloves: its not like all fn keys function are not working , but brightness up down and volume up down doesnt work [08:35] FingerlessGloves: trackpad disable and lock os and change display profile does work [08:35] You using normal Ubuntu desktop or are you using a different distro [08:35] Like Ubuntu Mate [08:35] FingerlessGloves: so i am thinking its not related to fn key completely , its due to maybe hardware incompatibility [08:36] If it worked in 16.04 it should work in 18.03 [08:36] 18.04* [08:36] FingerlessGloves: i was using 16.04 since years with unity , but then i upgraded to 18.04 with gnome and i started facing problem [08:36] Ah [08:36] wonder if going to Gnome threw it out. [08:36] FingerlessGloves: gnome even get stuck on my system , i get few seconds of functional gnome session and then everything freezes, i used top command to find cpu usage and i found it was about 100% [08:36] Might have to reinstall, which sucks. [08:37] then i installed unity , and atleast unity is functional but fn keys are not working again [08:37] FingerlessGloves: tbh i want unity so badly [08:38] I don't believe there is a way to reinstall keeping applications. Some people use the "apt list --installed" command to know what they had installed. But you wouldn't want to blanket install all that list on a new install [08:39] this is sort of my problem https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030060/freeze-after-login-ubuntu-18-04 [08:40] As for data, all programs should be storing their data in /home/{youruser}. If thats in a different partition, that makes life easy. Otherwise just "rsync -ap /home/ /mnt/usb/" your home folder to a ext4 formatted USB. [08:40] FingerlessGloves: apart from that on gdm3 touchpad touch click doesnt work on login screen [08:40] FingerlessGloves: but click buttons do work [08:40] how annoying [08:40] FingerlessGloves: can i make a complete partition clone using clonezilla ? [08:41] Yeah you can :-) [08:41] Done it many times [08:41] Device-Image. [08:41] also do my rsync idea for hte home folder, to keep SSH keys, browser data etc. [08:42] Then you can reinstalled, "rsync -ap /mnt/usb/ /home/" copy the data back. and then install the packages your missing say Chrome GIMP etc. [08:42] "rsync -ap" will copy all folders and folder, their owner and permissions [08:43] The UID of your current user and the UID you'll get when you reinstall should be the same. As the first user is always 1000 [08:46] FingerlessGloves: also i think i am not able to logout from gnome session. When i do logout it freezes forever [08:47] Yeah that's really buggered [08:47] Fn + lock key do work and i get lock screen but i dont think i can logout [08:47] Throw it out the window xD [08:47] FingerlessGloves: kek, no i need to fix this [08:48] I'm starting to think reinstall would be ALOT easier, so many different issues going on. [08:48] Maybe wait in here a little while before doing anything, incase someone knows how to fix the issues. [08:50] FingerlessGloves: is there anyway to find logs when i hit logout [08:50] hi [08:50] I did GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden [08:50] why does it get stuck forever [08:50] but grub menu still shows and time set to 5 seconds [08:50] Upgrade grub? [08:50] I have os-prober and arch linux install too [08:51] jackhum, I hardly mess with the desktop side of Linux. I still have to use Windows, to play my games. :-( [08:51] I did update-grub [08:51] Love to help but my knolwedge doesn't strech that far. [08:51] this ubuntu is buggy [08:51] 19.04 [08:52] littlekimmy, 19.10 is out [08:52] bug is in os-prober or some script [08:52] FingerlessGloves: but that too is buggy [08:52] littlekimmy, use 18.04? [08:52] it's behaving as expected. FingerlessGloves that too [08:53] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1182164/ubuntu-19-10-grub-not-shown [08:53] Do you see 5 seconds countdown or are you counting yourself [09:03] does changing the order of variables in /etc/default/grub have an impact [09:07] hello [09:07] I tried I set it to hidden and update-grub; but it still shows the menu [09:07] I have os-prober [09:07] and other os [09:10] hi [09:11] ~https://termbin.com/utuq [09:11] https://termbin.com/utuq [09:13] it timesout after 5 sec EVEN though in the file there is no 5 sec, it's 9 sec is what I set [09:13] so clearly sth is buggy [09:13] os-prober is messing up, can I disable os-prober without removing it ? [09:13] littlekimmy: that is what os-prober does when it finds multiple OSs [09:14] but you admit that ubuntu is buggy [09:14] grub is not behaving as expected [09:19] grubuntu [09:25] hi [09:25] after removing os-prober it behaves as expected [09:26] so I guess good bye other OS [09:26] lol so where exactly is the bug, in ubuntu ? or os-prober [09:28] littlekimmy: the line you added the 9 second timeout started with a #, so it is ignored [09:31] but still it didn't go the hidden timeout thing [09:31] and the reason I commented it is because either timeout or hidden_timeout -they are mutually exclusive [09:32] littlekimmy: /etc/default/grub needs GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu [09:32] no menu [09:33] hidden or countdown is what i need [09:33] littlekimmy: did you use GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true [09:33] I just removed that [09:34] apt remove os-prober, it's the same thing [09:34] then update-grub [09:38] if grub password is used, can it be bypassed without using live USB [09:39] I'd like to put password of course live usb can bypass those [09:41] littlekimmy, use LUKS encryption to protect your data, but does require it to be selected during installation [09:42] There's a tick box during the installation wizard [09:44] FingerlessGloves: not data [09:44] I will use that but first just for booting protection [09:45] Use a BIOS password. [09:45] Normally called User Password, so the machine won't boot unless the User Password is entered [09:45] Hi, I am trying to use wpa_supplicant to auto connect to a hotspot at boot, it worked in the past but is refusing to work since I updated to Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS, when I check the service status it shows as active but there are errors, https://paste.ee/p/ncASs [09:46] Supervisor password is a term for protecting the BIOS settings from unauthorised access. [09:46] But to be honest, with LUKS it's going to prompt you for the password to unlock the disk anyway. So in my eyes it basicly pointless trying to protect the machine booting. As they can just throw the disk in another system say. [09:47] hi [09:47] Normally called User Password, so the machine won't boot unless the User Password is entered [09:47] Supervisor password is a term for protecting the BIOS settings from unauthorised access. [09:47] But to be honest, with LUKS it's going to prompt you for the password to unlock the disk anyway. So in my eyes it basicly pointless trying to protect the machine booting. As they can just throw the disk in another system say. [09:47] GRUB_FORCE_HIDDEN_MENU="true" in arch wiki but where is that option couldn't find it [09:52] any advice? [09:56] aaran: are you chatting from the computer right now? [09:57] another computer, I am ssh'd into the other machine which is currently connected via ethernet [09:58] aaran: you are connected to the computer with the problem via ssh and it's hardwired because it wouldn't connect automatically to wifi correct? [09:58] yes [09:59] aaran: inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999 [10:00] aaran: issue the command above..it'll instruct you to install it if you don't have it ...paste url/link here [10:02] sent directly to you [10:04] aaran: nmcli c s|nc termbin.com 9999 [10:05] aaran: issue the command above..share url/link [10:05] https://termbin.com/9pex [10:06] aaran: sudo rfkill list|nc termbin.com 9999 [10:07] aaran: issue the command above..share url/link [10:07] https://termbin.com/9ji2 [10:07] hi e1 [10:08] aaran: nmcli d w|nc termbin.com 9999 [10:09] https://termbin.com/eboz [10:11] aaran: sudo ip link set wlan0 up [10:11] i would like to read a few books about networking(to learn) So far as Linux is concerned are there any caveats i should considering/mindful of? any recommendations? thanks in advance [10:11] aaran: did you see error? [10:11] no [10:12] aaran: nmcli d w|nc termbin.com 9999 [10:12] https://termbin.com/q5he [10:13] aaran: journalctl|nc termbin.com 9999 [10:13] wait [10:14] aaran: journalctl -p 4|nc termbin.com 9999 [10:14] sent directly however I found a post that is suggesting that it could be NetworkManager interfering with systemd-networkd, does that sound like a possibility? [10:20] Jan 21 09:49:53 MoChris32 wpa_supplicant[17581]: nl80211: Could not set interface 'p2p-dev-wlan0' UP [10:52] I have /home/user/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/, but I can't find the corresponding binary for it. Where can I find it? === skalis7 is now known as skalis [11:34] Hello everyone! According to /etc/lsb-release, I'm using "Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS" and according to uname -r, I'm running 4.15.0-70-generic. I've never been able to get suspend-to-RAM ("Suspend") to work on this desktop, so I thought I might try a more recent kernel. [11:35] On my other system, kernel was automatically upgraded to 5.3 a few days ago. But on this one, I seem to be on a more conservative upgrade path [11:35] How/where do I choose which kernel version to use? [11:36] marc|gonzalez: might want to check for BIOS updates first [11:36] OK, that makes sense. [11:37] It's a Dell workstation... I hope I don't need windows to apply BIOS updates. [11:38]