[04:05] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: Ardour, so far as I know, does not add the wiimote code to it's packages.
[04:06] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: There's definitely something in /libs/surfaces
[04:07] <OvenWerks> yes it's there, but it seems to me the ardour build skipps it somehow.
[04:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> The problem I'm having at this point is it's not finding libxml for whatever reason.
[04:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/461447389/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-amd64.ardour_1%3A5.12.0-3ubuntu10_BUILDING.txt.gz
[04:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> Specifically, here's the error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7nhP87PnX8/
[04:10] <OvenWerks> from the ardour.org build log: " * Wiimote support                                   : False"
[04:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> Robin didn't seem to mention that.
[04:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> So then the question is, what do I set in the rules file to skip wiimote support?
[04:12] <OvenWerks> remove libcwiid-dev from the deps, I think.
[04:13] <OvenWerks> ie make sure it is not installed at build time.
[04:14] <OvenWerks> if you look at the ardour.org buuild log farther up there is: Checking for header cwiid.h                          : not found 
[04:14] <OvenWerks> so if it is not foudn it is not built.
[04:15] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]:  BTW the build log I am looking at is: https://nightly.ardour.org/i/A_Linux_x86_64-gcc5abi/build_log.txt
[04:16] <OvenWerks> Notice at the top it shows the command line: # ./waf configure --strict --prefix=/usr --configdir=/etc --libjack=weak --ptformat --with-backends=jack,alsa,pulseaudio,dummy --optimize --cxx11
[04:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> Well, I'm going to try something: I think the FTB is related to a lack of libxml++, so I'll add that to the build deps and see what happens.
[04:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> It's building, we'll see if it errors-out.
[04:30] <OvenWerks> 15 minutes to go ?
[04:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Yep, it failed. You're right. I'm dropping libwiic-dev from the build-deps.
[04:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> Attempt number 12 now.
[04:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> (this is in my personal PPA so as not to email everyone and their dog when it fails)
[04:36] <OvenWerks> hmm, my dog might be interested.... I am sure she would give her best yawn.
[04:37] <Eickmeyer[m]> My dog would sleep right through it, notification and all. Unless it's someone closing a door outside, then it's cause for alarm.
[04:50] <OvenWerks> sound of food?
[04:54] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok, definitely food.
[04:55] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Still building, but s390x build was successful. \o/
[04:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> ppc64el is successful.
[05:13] <OvenWerks> rg should be in bed by now... 
[05:27] <Eickmeyer[m]> He's not. :')
[05:36] <OvenWerks> not unusual
[05:36] <OvenWerks> hes like 9 hours ahead of us I think.
[06:05] <Eickmeyer[m]> Man's a beast.
[06:13] <OvenWerks> Paul is the same tz.
[06:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> I think Filipe is an hour ahead of them.
 @azbulutlu RT just swapped-out our site theme, but it's missing quite a few elements. Any ideas?
 let me see
 I think some of them needs to be done through customization of the theme
 Yeah, I think I need to get Shinta involved.
 things we asked to be flexible. e.g. download link. features blurbs
 do you want me to copy them from stage$
 stage*
 Sure, that would be great.
 I'll see what you can do before I get Shinta involved.
 give me a moment and give me a moment to install telegram on desktop so that we can be on phone
 Sounds good.
 I have to take my son to the school bus, back later.
 ok
 @azbulutlu I'm back.
 welcome back
 and yes some of the art assets that were in the media library didn't carry over
 and some of the settings. this is totally expected no need for panic
 I did run into a bit of an issue with some of the image assets through so currently working on that
 should I see if I can put the site on the maintenance mode?
 Ok, perfect. RT asked if I wanted to revert, I'm going to let them know that at this point what happened was expected.
 If you can from wp-admin, that would work for the time being.
 yeah all of it are things that we wanted to be customizable so the art assets etc were in media library
 or in case of blurbs its there for us to add back in
 let me see if I can
 Ok.
 If not, it's no big deal.
 It's not like I've announced it yet. :P
 ok looks like it is a plugin
 this won't take THAT long and it is not THAT broken
 xD
 heh
 Ok, so we're missing a plugin?
 Ohhhh..."maintenance mode" is a plugin.
 Nm.
 I'm slow.
 @azbulutlu I was able to add the missing text. (that was easy).
 umm I am doing editing
 please do not also edit
 :D
 Ok
 I just added the creative people text
 :)
 could you find me the link for the Eoan Ermine?
 and the blurb for it?
 actually nvm
 release notes.. duh
 Hehehe
 hey! its been a while since I have been active and this wasn't how I planned my evening tonight
 :))
 ok there is something that you can do to help me.
 Oh gee, sorry for the inconvenience. (not sarcasm). :D
 haha its ok
 What do you need?
 could you get to this pagehttp://ubuntustudio.playmain.com/download/ and use the same formatting? (but do not copy paste as it is old links)
 if it is too problematic I can do it myself
 but it looks like the downloads page got a little chaotic
 Yeah, I'll se what I can do.
 Oh, I see what happened. They converted it to the new block format that Wordpress introduced.
 aah
 (also wow the feature format section  has so much customization options)
 *is very happy
[17:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> :D
 @azbulutlu Download page is updated.
 awesome. we have download links I am almost done with features
 feel free to poke to anything that is not front page btw. (I'll finish the features and add the footers.
 Sounds good. Looks like the top nav needs some love.
 what do you mean?
 features are up
 it might be worth checking nothing weird is there through
 Cool. I'm talking about the top nav not quite matching the one on Playmain, not hard to fix.
 (I assume we'll do a proper content update when we know the final tally of the release, changed programs etc)
 are you sure you are not seeing the fact that you are logged in?
 potentially silly question but
 Yes, 100%. Are you still working on the footer?
 yeah
 well social media links but I cannot currently add them properly so will revisit the issue
 (basically we'll need to find some icon sets, I might customize the one I made for my own website, but that will need to wait for a couple of days)
[17:57] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok, that's fine.
 fixing the menu
 I didn't know that was there :))
 Ohhhh... :D I was going to do it, but since you're already on it...
 btw we should go over the footer (like the bottom footer and make sure that it is saying what it needs to be saying. it is currently not mentioning gpl also one min break while I order food
 Ok
 ok actually the menu is a non trivial item to work with
 we currently have 1 feature tour page
 what they have on stage is a main feature tour page plus a page for each category so i am leaving it as it is for now but we need to fix it
[18:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok, I'll fix it. Not hard for me, I've done this before.
 Alright. I'll continue copy pasting the front page
 @azbulutlu Top navmenu is now identical.
 awesome
 ok I think I am done
 btw we do have text based social media links
 that was me not realizing menu had to be added
 I'll figure out an icon solution
[18:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> Agreed. It looks great!
 *high fives for successful copy pasting*
 we should probably go over some of this content
[18:20] <Eickmeyer[m]> LOL
 I mean I said I will and I will, but I shouldn't be the only pair of eyes on this
[18:20] <Eickmeyer[m]> Great job all around. :)
 especially since i was on hiatus so long.
 the site looks amazing
 (and also it is really really easy to update when we need to...)
 Yeah, that's fine. I've been going over it right now, and we do have some stuff that could use updating (I just removed MyPaint since that's a lost cause, might bring-in something else that I was tipped-off about).
 It is super easy.
 it actually isn't
 there is a 2.0 beta around
 (FINALLY)
 in mean time people can install the rc candidate as an appimage. so no serious harm there
 Nice, but if they can't get out of beta before March, it's not going to make it.
 its been in beta in a while
 let me see how it is actually
 oh
 darktable 3.0
 we need to make sure that is in
 it came out over christmas
 mypaint... we'll see xD
 Oof, yeah, that's one we sync from Debian, and it's still 2.6.3. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/darktable
 Right now, Ardour is my focus because it was 1) removed from Debian testing and therefore, 2) removed from Ubuntu. I've got it building, but having trouble getting it to package correctly. @teward001 and I will be working on that.
 yikes
 Erich.. this is not my place to ask this but...
 custom ppa something that is possible or viable?
 or would it be too risky?
 and ack
 That's not allowed per official flavor status requirements.
 got it
 good luck re:ardour
 btw
 are we getting either of those plugins for the website?
 is there any news from RT on that front?
 RT says they need a bit more time to update PHP and our plugins.
 After that, we can investigate any new plugins.
 alright
 yeah I noticed that there was an outdated php alert
[18:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> Alright, I'm going to make the new website public and do a victory dance.
 we should encourage people to report to us any issues they notice
 :))
 and yeah it is well deserved
 omg it only took...
 actually you know what i am not thinking about that
 *cheers*
 😂
 you made it!!!!! ??? ❤️ you managed to publish a new website!!!! And wowowow!!! super neat! congratulations!!!!
 @Sakrecoer Yep! Can you believe it? They actually pulled the trigger without a fight!
 amazing!!! and that SVG animation is crazy sexy!!!! ❤️
 Well, we can thank Playmain for that. Shinta and Bayu did a fantasitc job.
 next level stuff!! wow just wow!
 I have the feeling we'll be taken a little more seriously now with this site.
 for newcomers: absolutely!
 oops
 http://ubuntustudio.org/audio/
 404
 ouch... this one too: http://ubuntustudio.org/graphics/
 @Sakrecoer The link should be tour/audio and tour/graphics
 uhhh small problem
 the news are in wrong order. xD
 I'll see if I can fix that
 indeed!
 the links on the front page have forgotten the `tour`part
 Ohhhhh... @azbulutlu ^
 I'll fix the links. THAT I know how to do
 (and that's because we added the front page stuff before the tour stuff xD0
 a brand new website without a few 404 is bad luck, so good on y'all! 😊
 links fixed
 kabooom!
 also did you delete the posts page?
 Which posts page?
 Oh, I don't think we ever had it. I can fix.
 I think the main page needs to be something else
 and news needs to be news
 but idk
[19:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm looking into it.
 actually hang on
 I found out how I think
 let me try fixing it
[19:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok
 got it
 one sec
 (btw for future reference it is under "settings"
[19:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah, I was looking ther.e
 I'll almost say "news" should be a top navigation category btw. may I add it?
 between about and features?
[19:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> Sure.
 done
 still cannot find what determines the order of news posts on front page through
[19:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> I fixed it. Stuff is stickied. My bad.
[19:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> Uhhh... Home is going to News.
 (on the menu)
 no no no it is fixed
 ohh
[19:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> I can fix it real quick.
 meanwhile fixing the news page fixed the order of the posts
 Actually, I unstickied the 19.04 announcement. That's what was causing the issues.
 Menu is fixed.
 ah!!!!
 ok that makes a lot more sense *laughs*
 hehehe
 https://mastodon.art/users/ubuntustudio/statuses/103522944926796669
 Perfect.
 oh... https://libregraphicsmeeting.org/ submissions are up
 Yeah, I won't be able to make a conference in France in May.
 I need to figure out which presentation/workshop idea i am going with if at all
 *is really behind on projects*
 oh and we can submit slides to state of libregraphics too if we wanted to.
[20:03] <tomreyn> oops sorry
[20:05] <Eickmeyer[m]> tomreyn: No worries.
[20:06] <Eickmeyer[m]> So yeah, as soon as the sysadmin folks get around to updating our 1) Wordpress, 2) PHP, and 3) outdated plugins and themes, then I'll start bugging them about new plugins.
 *gives Eickmeyer the hat of shame for no apparent reason*
[20:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm a little leery of adding new plugins when they could be broken just by the fact of an outdated backend, but I'm taking suggestions. Yours is a very good one.
 *pours a gallon of salt on @teward001 *
[20:08] <tomreyn> well this extension is really not needed when someone can just set those on the webserver.
[20:09] <tomreyn> http://ubuntustudio.org/wp-content/themes/ubuntustudio-website/ has directory listings enabled
[20:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> Indeed. Thing is, we can't even install plugins as that has to go through #canonical-sysadmin via an RT ticket.
[20:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> tomreyn: I'm going to bug them about that immediately.
[20:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> tomreyn: Looks like they're going to be working on a new deployment framework, so that might block getting that fixed.
[20:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> Should be happening within weeks.
[20:28] <tomreyn> cool, thanks for the feedback
[21:55] <tomreyn> Eickmeyer[m]: oops, i missed that, but those download links are broken
[21:55] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: I'll have a look.
[21:56] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: Yep, I see that. Thanks! I'll fix.
[21:56] <tomreyn> :)
[22:01] <Eickmeyer[m]> tomreyn: Fixed. :)
[22:05] <tomreyn> nice, nice. :)
[22:05] <tomreyn> so there's only 18.04.0 DVDs, nothing newer?
[22:06] <tomreyn> i guess it'd mean lot of work
[22:07] <tomreyn> pointing to checksums and gpg keys and tutorials on using those could be nice, if it doesn't destroy the design
[22:08] <tomreyn> And maybe make it "Release Note*s*".
[22:10] <tomreyn> ah, the release notes do explain how to verify the checksums (at least MD5).
[22:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> tomreyn: That's because we went non-LTS for 18.04, remember?
[22:14] <tomreyn> oh right, i do now
[22:14] <Eickmeyer[m]> Hence, it says 9 months.
[22:15] <tomreyn> yes, i read "LTS" there but missed "will be supporting for 9 months"
[22:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> I updated it a bit talking about the Backports PPA requirement.
[22:18] <tomreyn> http://ubuntustudio.org/download/ has a broken link "Ubuntu Studio Installer"
[22:20] <Eickmeyer[m]> I had to completely redo that page, so I'm not surprised.
[22:20] <Eickmeyer[m]> Fixed.
[22:21] <tomreyn> User comments are allowed on this page, you might want to point them to a forum or bug tracker instead.
[22:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> Fixed.
[22:22] <tomreyn> on the top of the page you have some text + links like this:
[22:22] <tomreyn> "Checksums and alternative downloads: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/eoan/release/"
[22:23] <tomreyn> this isn't too readable, maybe linkt he text, or add a line break before the link
[22:23] <tomreyn> just a suggestion, and we're very close to nit picking now
[22:24] <tomreyn> on the page footer it says: Ubuntu Studio (c) 2011- Canonical Ltd. 
[22:24] <tomreyn> supposedly, the current year should be there
[22:25] <Eickmeyer[m]> That might be hardcoded, but I'll look.
[22:27] <tomreyn> the "webchat" link at https://ubuntustudio.org/contribute/ uses old-style qwebirc links which don't properly translate to nowadays' kiwi
[22:31] <Eickmeyer[m]> tomreyn: I'm considering deleting that completely. The web chat tends to be toxic, and Matrix is so much better.
[22:32] <tomreyn> (prospoect) developers who enjoy IRC probably don't need / want a web chat anyways.
[22:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> Exactly. I'm keeping the support link for now.
[22:35] <tomreyn> looong ago i got basic 'web journalism' training and they taught me to never create links like   To learn more on this topic, click <a href="...">this</a>.    but to use something like      <a href="...">Read on.</a>     or     More on the topic of <a href="">dinosaurs</a>
[22:36] <tomreyn> i.e. never link words such as "this" or "click here"
[22:36] <tomreyn> and i have to agree with them, also from a search engine indexing point of view
[22:37] <Eickmeyer[m]> There's a LOT that hasn't been cleaned-up. There's a lot of overexplaining on there too.
[22:37] <tomreyn> okay, just thought i'd bring it up ;)
[22:45] <tomreyn> on /support/ the "inkscape forums" link needs to be updated to https://inkscape.org/forums/ and the "krita documentation" link to https://docs.krita.org/
[22:56] <Eickmeyer[m]> tomreyn: Thanks, fixed.
[22:57] <tomreyn> thanks!