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lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @RikMills can you have a look at https://phab.lubuntu.me/D69 when you are free? Can't land unless you approve.00:58
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Bump version number for new release.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D6900:58
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T19: Task Manager Global Menu Plugin] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T19#297401:26
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T54: Properly implement different wallpapers for different monitors] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T54#297501:37
wxl^ maybe i should make a "waiting on upstream to release" status XD01:38
kc2bezGah, I forgot you did that!01:39
kc2bezMy bad01:39
wxli have a "waiting for upstream"01:39
wxlbut i meant that more as "waiting on upstream to fix it"01:39
wxli'm saying we should have another one like "fixed upstream, waiting on release"01:39
wxlkind of like "fix committed" versus "fix released" in launchpad01:39
kc2bezmakes sense01:40
kc2bezIn case I wasn't clear i support that idea.01:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T33: HiDPI Support] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T33#298002:09
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T145: Package QPS for new upstream release 2.0.0] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T14502:43
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T69: 19.04 SRUs] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T69#299602:57
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd04b31d1e1fb: Improve wording] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd04b31d1e1fb06:24
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL982619e65551: Remove uneeded version number] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL982619e6555106:34
ALuzHey!10:52
ALuzI am trying to install Lubuntu, but it says I don-t have enough drive space (at least  8 gB required). However, I do have 10 gB available as unallocated space in my disk. How can I proceed?10:54
ALuzThanks for the help!10:54
guivercAluz, you increase the size of your partition using the unallocated space11:03
kc2bezI think they left guiverc11:04
lubot<HMollerCl> someone using libreoffice in focal?14:38
lubot<HMollerCl> install libreoffice-qt5 and launch it like this: SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=qt5 libreoffice14:39
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T146: libreoffice qt vcl] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T14614:58
lubot<HMollerCl> @HMollerCl [someone using libreoffice in focal?], might work on eoan too.15:20
lubot<HMollerCl> how are env variables changed globally and permanent?17:02
lubot<RikMills> @tsimonq2 merge qps 2.0.0 ?17:10
lubot<RikMills> the lubuntu delta is just VCS and maintainer/uploader17:10
lubot<tsimonq2> @RikMills [@tsimonq2 merge qps 2.0.0 ?], Ack go for it17:11
lubot<RikMills> ok17:11
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rQPSPACKAGINGf1d35ed20fe4: merge debian 2.0.0-1] rikmills (Rik Mills) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rQPSPACKAGINGf1d35ed20fe418:13
wxlwe should all thumbs up this one https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-runner/issues/138?email_source=notifications&email_token=AAFXADSMGRDUPBR4NNW4E5LQ7HJWXA5CNFSM4KK2MYP2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFUVEXG43VMWVGG33NNVSW45C7NFSM4IIKCODQ19:17
ubot93Issue 138 in lxqt/lxqt-runner "local executables are not picked up by lxqt-runner" [Open]19:18
wxl@teward001 interested in swapping our IRC bridge over to Matterbridge from TeleIRC? https://phab.lubuntu.me/T12419:22
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] figure out replacement for TeleIRC: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T12419:22
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T145: Package QPS for new upstream release 2.0.0] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T145#300819:46
The_LoudSpeaker!standup21:03
ubot93standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez @The_LoudSpeaker wxl[m] guiverc it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call! Afterwards, in order of announcement, post your items and be sure to mention when you're done.21:03
The_LoudSpeakero/\21:04
wxlo/21:04
kc2bezo/21:04
lynorianoof slept in too late no paste ready21:04
lubot<HMollerCl> I have a couple of minutws21:04
lubot<HMollerCl> I'm on my celphone21:05
wxli don't have a paste either but21:06
wxlgo raman21:06
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Hii. I don't have anything much. Just talking with upstream about some issues and projects. … Digged into grub's theme settings. Working to get lubuntu-grub-theme working by default. … Also, @RikMills accept D69 ploxx.21:09
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> That's it.21:09
wxlok i'll go21:10
wxlno movement trying to get i386 enabled in casper yet, but i'm fighting for it. if someone wants to chime in that would perhaps be helpful. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/missing-foreign-architecture-in-eoan/12702 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T14321:10
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Enable i386 architecture: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T14321:10
wxlsnap 2.43 is still in proposed and needs tested as a solution to fix apps showing in the menus https://phab.lubuntu.me/T13921:11
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Ensure applications in Snap packages show up in the lxqt-panel menu: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T13921:11
wxli made a needsinfo and an upstream status on phab and triaged our 20.04 stuff as such21:12
wxlbeen trying to go through tickets there21:12
wxlpointed out there's some scripts that we could use to make sddm have guest support rather easily if someone wants to look into that https://phab.lubuntu.me/T1821:12
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Implement Guest Sessions in SDDM: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T1821:12
wxlwe *REALLY* need to deal with merges https://phab.lubuntu.me/T14221:13
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Deal with merges: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T14221:13
wxlalso working with lxqt re: GSoC https://forum.lxqt.org/t/google-summer-of-code-2020/1067/5 https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/165121:14
ubot93Issue 1651 in lxqt/lxqt "Google summer of code participacion" [Open]21:14
wxland that's about it i think21:15
kc2bezThanks wxl !21:15
lynorianI am next?21:16
wxlwell not me :)21:16
lynorianImprove Quassel dealing with Queries21:16
lynorianImprove text for switching channels in Quassel21:16
lynorianDescribe swap column in qps 21:16
lynorianAdd description of columns for startup disk creator21:16
lynorianvarious typo fixes21:16
lynorianthat is about it21:16
wxlgood job!21:16
kc2bezVery nice indeed!21:17
kc2bezHere is my list.21:17
kc2beztested adding i386 architecture as a shellprocess in calamares21:17
kc2bezcommented on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T14321:17
kc2bezIs this the route we want to go with this? ^21:17
kc2bezcommented and shuffled some priorities on tasks21:17
kc2bezcreated https://phab.lubuntu.me/T145 which @RikMills has promptly resolved. Thank you.21:17
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Enable i386 architecture: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T14321:17
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Resolved] Package QPS for new upstream release 2.0.0: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T14521:17
wxl@kc2bez: i want to get it in casper if we can. if not, we do that.21:18
kc2bezOk, sounds good21:18
kc2bezJust let me know21:19
wxlwe'll just monitor that until the end i guess21:19
kc2bezWell I don't want to wait too long, some testing would be good.21:19
kc2bezOther than myself of course21:20
wxlyou could always post it up there and we could test it21:20
kc2bezSure, I can do that, if need be we can abandon it.21:21
wxloh i'm not sure everyone saw my post above but there's an issue requesting that runner searches the $PATH (e.g. for $HOME/bin or the like)21:21
kc2bezInteresting, will have to read more later.21:22
kc2bez@HMollerCl are you still there?21:23
lubot<HMollerCl> Yes21:24
kc2bezI think you are next.21:24
lubot<HMollerCl> I've done some test with breeze-dark and documented here https://phab.lubuntu.me/T13721:24
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] improve theming: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T13721:24
wxlwell crap the 2.43 proposed version of snapd doesn't include the fix for snaps in the menu21:25
lubot<HMollerCl> In menu search looks bad with dark themes, also happens with kvantum confirmed by @kc2bez, we need to fix it in lubuntu arc lxqt theme21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> And I'm doing test with libreoffice-qt5 and works OK, we would need to change en variable for that and add the package to seed21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T14621:27
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Wishlist, Open] libreoffice qt5 vcl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T14621:27
kc2bezYour proposal on T137 seems to work for dark or light themes so +1 on that21:28
wxli agree21:28
lubot<HMollerCl> Eof21:29
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Your proposal on T137 seems to work for dark or light themes so +1 on t …], Ok, will work on it21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> Will try to use a better matched color for the theme21:30
kc2bezThank you @HMollerCl21:31
lubot<HMollerCl> Aaaaa and I'm studying for applying to lubuntu developer21:31
lubot<HMollerCl> Still don't get the symbol thing21:31
wxlwhat symbol thing?21:42
lubot<HMollerCl> Symbol files21:44
wxlah well21:45
wxlthey're not super fun21:45
wxli think the important thing to understand is how to translate errors into understandable meaningful things you can actually take actions on21:46
wxlin general you don't need to create symbols so much as deal with symbols that are dropped or new ones that are added21:48
wxlbut if you look at https://wiki.debian.org/UsingSymbolsFiles you can see how c++filt parses the symbols file into something that's useful, i.e. something you can relate to the actuall code21:49
wxlnot helpful: OrientationSensor11qt_metacallEN11QMetaObject4CallEiPPv21:49
wxlhelpful: OrientationSensor::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**)21:49
wxl@RikMills you have any other good resources for dealing with symbols?21:51
lubot<RikMills> pkgkde-symbolshelper :P21:52
lubot<RikMills> and asking Harald Sitter to check an abi break if I suspect one 😆21:53
wxlheh you're no fun XD21:53
wxlthe symbols stuff here is useful as a basis for understanding https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/advanced.en.html21:54
wxlas well as links to the policy mentioned there21:54
wxlACTUALLY this is pretty good https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12664207/how-to-adjust-symbols-file-in-a-debian-package-for-a-shared-lib21:55
lubot<HMollerCl> Thanks, will look at them21:56
wxlyou won't have to deal with it *A LOT* and when you do it's usually just a wee fix like that21:56
wxli've never had to deal with an ABI break personally21:56
lubot<tsimonq2> OOO did someone say ABI break?21:57
lubot<tsimonq2> My favorite21:57
lubot<tsimonq2> Right @RikMills? :P21:57
wxl@HMollerCl a little secret: we're PROBABLY not going to grill you on how to deal with an ABI break XD21:58
lubot<kc2bez> If you get really stuck you just ping @tsimonq2 a bunch! XD21:58
wxland then when you get sick of him ghosting you, you ping @RikMills instead!21:58
lubot<tsimonq2> I'm a simple man. I ignore standup, I ignore "hey Simon what do you think", but ABI break, man, what's that all about?21:59
lubot<tsimonq2> XDD21:59
lubot<tsimonq2> Nah I'm just kidding21:59
lubot<kc2bez> XD22:01
lubot<tsimonq2> Oops22:03
lubot<Lexorator> Oops! Sorry!22:05
lubot<tsimonq2> It happens! It's all good22:05
wxlhmmmm22:05
lubot<HMollerCl> Jajaja22:05
* wxl thinks… next time he needs simon for something trivial… "ABI BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!"22:06
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6129d9255ce2: Link cdimage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6129d9255ce222:14
lubot<RikMills> calamares going to support zfs installs in 20.04?23:37
wxlthat's a question for kpmcore honestly23:37
lubot<kc2bez> ^23:38
wxlhttps://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/53323:38
ubot93Issue 533 in calamares/calamares "ZFS support" [Open]23:38
wxlhuh https://github.com/KDE/kpmcore/search?q=zfs&type=Code23:39
lubot<RikMills> I suspect not then23:42
wxlwell i don't know23:42
lubot<kc2bez> I don't think [ade] is back from conference yet. I would imagine a relatively quick turnaround on that once he starts work on it.23:42
wxlthat sort of suggests kpmcore supports it23:42
lubot<kc2bez> those are relatively recent commits23:43
wxloh wow i hadn't even noticed that23:44
wxlmight want to hit up the upstream issue with that notification. would you be so kind dan?23:44
lubot<kc2bez> sure. will do.23:44
wxlthx23:46
lubot<RikMills> then again, considering Ubuntu landed zfs support in ubiquity 10 days before 19.10 release, there is plenty of time yet.... 😆23:47
wxlhehehe23:47
lubot<HMollerCl> Wxl what do you think of https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137#2946??23:51
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] improve theming: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137#2946??23:51
wxl@HMollerCl you mean fixing the default .qss?23:52
lubot<HMollerCl> Nope, kdeglobala23:52
wxl1s23:52
lubot<HMollerCl> Kdeglobals using it to make breeze dark23:52
wxlmy concern in regards to the task is general, i.e. how can we make it easy for people to change theming to their liking rather than just dark and light23:53
wxlthis is why i mentioned a more full featured solution i.e. kvantum23:53
lubot<HMollerCl> If, people use breeze, we can use kdeglobals and make a simple app to change the colors (instead of installing full plasma-desktop)23:54
lubot<HMollerCl> And people could decide their own colors for breeze23:55
wxlis plasma needed with kvantum or qt5ct?23:55
wxloh they can? without having to write a .colors themselves?23:55
lubot<HMollerCl> None of them23:55
lubot<HMollerCl> The thing is that plasma has some apps to adjust colors and make your own kdeglobals23:55
wxlah23:56
lubot<HMollerCl> Wait, moving to a computer23:56
lubot<HMollerCl> ok, on a computer now23:57
lubot<HMollerCl> easier to type23:57
wxlis the value with what you're suggesting is that it provides a more unified solution than qt5ct?23:58

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