 @RikMills can you have a look at https://phab.lubuntu.me/D69 when you are free? Can't land unless you approve.
[00:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Bump version number for new release.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D69
[01:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T19: Task Manager Global Menu Plugin] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T19#2974
[01:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T54: Properly implement different wallpapers for different monitors] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T54#2975
[01:38] <wxl> ^ maybe i should make a "waiting on upstream to release" status XD
[01:39] <kc2bez> Gah, I forgot you did that!
[01:39] <kc2bez> My bad
[01:39] <wxl> i have a "waiting for upstream"
[01:39] <wxl> but i meant that more as "waiting on upstream to fix it"
[01:39] <wxl> i'm saying we should have another one like "fixed upstream, waiting on release"
[01:39] <wxl> kind of like "fix committed" versus "fix released" in launchpad
[01:40] <kc2bez> makes sense
[01:49] <kc2bez> In case I wasn't clear i support that idea.
[02:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T33: HiDPI Support] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T33#2980
[02:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T145: Package QPS for new upstream release 2.0.0] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T145
[02:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T69: 19.04 SRUs] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T69#2996
[06:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd04b31d1e1fb: Improve wording] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd04b31d1e1fb
[06:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL982619e65551: Remove uneeded version number] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL982619e65551
[10:52] <ALuz> Hey!
[10:54] <ALuz> I am trying to install Lubuntu, but it says I don-t have enough drive space (at least  8 gB required). However, I do have 10 gB available as unallocated space in my disk. How can I proceed?
[10:54] <ALuz> Thanks for the help!
[11:03] <guiverc> Aluz, you increase the size of your partition using the unallocated space
[11:04] <kc2bez> I think they left guiverc
 someone using libreoffice in focal?
 install libreoffice-qt5 and launch it like this: SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=qt5 libreoffice
[14:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T146: libreoffice qt vcl] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T146
 @HMollerCl [someone using libreoffice in focal?], might work on eoan too.
 how are env variables changed globally and permanent?
 @tsimonq2 merge qps 2.0.0 ?
 the lubuntu delta is just VCS and maintainer/uploader
 @RikMills [@tsimonq2 merge qps 2.0.0 ?], Ack go for it
 ok
[18:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rQPSPACKAGINGf1d35ed20fe4: merge debian 2.0.0-1] rikmills (Rik Mills) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rQPSPACKAGINGf1d35ed20fe4
[19:17] <wxl> we should all thumbs up this one https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-runner/issues/138?email_source=notifications&email_token=AAFXADSMGRDUPBR4NNW4E5LQ7HJWXA5CNFSM4KK2MYP2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFUVEXG43VMWVGG33NNVSW45C7NFSM4IIKCODQ
[19:22] <wxl> @teward001 interested in swapping our IRC bridge over to Matterbridge from TeleIRC? https://phab.lubuntu.me/T124
[19:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] figure out replacement for TeleIRC: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T124
[19:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T145: Package QPS for new upstream release 2.0.0] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T145#3008
[21:03] <The_LoudSpeaker> !standup
[21:04] <The_LoudSpeaker> o/\
[21:04] <wxl> o/
[21:04] <kc2bez> o/
[21:04] <lynorian> oof slept in too late no paste ready
 I have a couple of minutws
 I'm on my celphone
[21:06] <wxl> i don't have a paste either but
[21:06] <wxl> go raman
 Hii. I don't have anything much. Just talking with upstream about some issues and projects. … Digged into grub's theme settings. Working to get lubuntu-grub-theme working by default. … Also, @RikMills accept D69 ploxx.
 That's it.
[21:10] <wxl> ok i'll go
[21:10] <wxl> no movement trying to get i386 enabled in casper yet, but i'm fighting for it. if someone wants to chime in that would perhaps be helpful. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/missing-foreign-architecture-in-eoan/12702 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T143
[21:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Enable i386 architecture: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T143
[21:11] <wxl> snap 2.43 is still in proposed and needs tested as a solution to fix apps showing in the menus https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139
[21:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Ensure applications in Snap packages show up in the lxqt-panel menu: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139
[21:12] <wxl> i made a needsinfo and an upstream status on phab and triaged our 20.04 stuff as such
[21:12] <wxl> been trying to go through tickets there
[21:12] <wxl> pointed out there's some scripts that we could use to make sddm have guest support rather easily if someone wants to look into that https://phab.lubuntu.me/T18
[21:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Implement Guest Sessions in SDDM: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T18
[21:13] <wxl> we *REALLY* need to deal with merges https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142
[21:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Deal with merges: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142
[21:14] <wxl> also working with lxqt re: GSoC https://forum.lxqt.org/t/google-summer-of-code-2020/1067/5 https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1651
[21:15] <wxl> and that's about it i think
[21:15] <kc2bez> Thanks wxl !
[21:16] <lynorian> I am next?
[21:16] <wxl> well not me :)
[21:16] <lynorian> Improve Quassel dealing with Queries
[21:16] <lynorian> Improve text for switching channels in Quassel
[21:16] <lynorian> Describe swap column in qps 
[21:16] <lynorian> Add description of columns for startup disk creator
[21:16] <lynorian> various typo fixes
[21:16] <lynorian> that is about it
[21:16] <wxl> good job!
[21:17] <kc2bez> Very nice indeed!
[21:17] <kc2bez> Here is my list.
[21:17] <kc2bez> tested adding i386 architecture as a shellprocess in calamares
[21:17] <kc2bez> commented on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T143
[21:17] <kc2bez> Is this the route we want to go with this? ^
[21:17] <kc2bez> commented and shuffled some priorities on tasks
[21:17] <kc2bez> created https://phab.lubuntu.me/T145 which @RikMills has promptly resolved. Thank you.
[21:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Enable i386 architecture: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T143
[21:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Resolved] Package QPS for new upstream release 2.0.0: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T145
[21:18] <wxl> @kc2bez: i want to get it in casper if we can. if not, we do that.
[21:18] <kc2bez> Ok, sounds good
[21:19] <kc2bez> Just let me know
[21:19] <wxl> we'll just monitor that until the end i guess
[21:19] <kc2bez> Well I don't want to wait too long, some testing would be good.
[21:20] <kc2bez> Other than myself of course
[21:20] <wxl> you could always post it up there and we could test it
[21:21] <kc2bez> Sure, I can do that, if need be we can abandon it.
[21:21] <wxl> oh i'm not sure everyone saw my post above but there's an issue requesting that runner searches the $PATH (e.g. for $HOME/bin or the like)
[21:22] <kc2bez> Interesting, will have to read more later.
[21:23] <kc2bez> @HMollerCl are you still there?
 Yes
[21:24] <kc2bez> I think you are next.
 I've done some test with breeze-dark and documented here https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137
[21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] improve theming: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137
[21:25] <wxl> well crap the 2.43 proposed version of snapd doesn't include the fix for snaps in the menu
 In menu search looks bad with dark themes, also happens with kvantum confirmed by @kc2bez, we need to fix it in lubuntu arc lxqt theme
 And I'm doing test with libreoffice-qt5 and works OK, we would need to change en variable for that and add the package to seed
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T146
[21:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Wishlist, Open] libreoffice qt5 vcl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T146
[21:28] <kc2bez> Your proposal on T137 seems to work for dark or light themes so +1 on that
[21:28] <wxl> i agree
 Eof
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Your proposal on T137 seems to work for dark or light themes so +1 on t …], Ok, will work on it
 Will try to use a better matched color for the theme
[21:31] <kc2bez> Thank you @HMollerCl
 Aaaaa and I'm studying for applying to lubuntu developer
 Still don't get the symbol thing
[21:42] <wxl> what symbol thing?
 Symbol files
[21:45] <wxl> ah well
[21:45] <wxl> they're not super fun
[21:46] <wxl> i think the important thing to understand is how to translate errors into understandable meaningful things you can actually take actions on
[21:48] <wxl> in general you don't need to create symbols so much as deal with symbols that are dropped or new ones that are added
[21:49] <wxl> but if you look at https://wiki.debian.org/UsingSymbolsFiles you can see how c++filt parses the symbols file into something that's useful, i.e. something you can relate to the actuall code
[21:49] <wxl> not helpful: OrientationSensor11qt_metacallEN11QMetaObject4CallEiPPv
[21:49] <wxl> helpful: OrientationSensor::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**)
[21:51] <wxl> @RikMills you have any other good resources for dealing with symbols?
 pkgkde-symbolshelper :P
 and asking Harald Sitter to check an abi break if I suspect one 😆
[21:53] <wxl> heh you're no fun XD
[21:54] <wxl> the symbols stuff here is useful as a basis for understanding https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/advanced.en.html
[21:54] <wxl> as well as links to the policy mentioned there
[21:55] <wxl> ACTUALLY this is pretty good https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12664207/how-to-adjust-symbols-file-in-a-debian-package-for-a-shared-lib
 Thanks, will look at them
[21:56] <wxl> you won't have to deal with it *A LOT* and when you do it's usually just a wee fix like that
[21:56] <wxl> i've never had to deal with an ABI break personally
 OOO did someone say ABI break?
 My favorite
 Right @RikMills? :P
[21:58] <wxl> @HMollerCl a little secret: we're PROBABLY not going to grill you on how to deal with an ABI break XD
 If you get really stuck you just ping @tsimonq2 a bunch! XD
[21:58] <wxl> and then when you get sick of him ghosting you, you ping @RikMills instead!
 I'm a simple man. I ignore standup, I ignore "hey Simon what do you think", but ABI break, man, what's that all about?
 XDD
 Nah I'm just kidding
 XD
 Oops
 Oops! Sorry!
 It happens! It's all good
[22:05] <wxl> hmmmm
 Jajaja
[22:06]  * wxl thinks… next time he needs simon for something trivial… "ABI BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!"
[22:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6129d9255ce2: Link cdimage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6129d9255ce2
 calamares going to support zfs installs in 20.04?
[23:37] <wxl> that's a question for kpmcore honestly
 ^
[23:38] <wxl> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/533
[23:39] <wxl> huh https://github.com/KDE/kpmcore/search?q=zfs&type=Code
 I suspect not then
[23:42] <wxl> well i don't know
 I don't think [ade] is back from conference yet. I would imagine a relatively quick turnaround on that once he starts work on it.
[23:42] <wxl> that sort of suggests kpmcore supports it
 those are relatively recent commits
[23:44] <wxl> oh wow i hadn't even noticed that
[23:44] <wxl> might want to hit up the upstream issue with that notification. would you be so kind dan?
 sure. will do.
[23:46] <wxl> thx
 then again, considering Ubuntu landed zfs support in ubiquity 10 days before 19.10 release, there is plenty of time yet.... 😆
[23:47] <wxl> hehehe
 Wxl what do you think of https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137#2946??
[23:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] improve theming: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137#2946??
[23:52] <wxl> @HMollerCl you mean fixing the default .qss?
 Nope, kdeglobala
[23:52] <wxl> 1s
 Kdeglobals using it to make breeze dark
[23:53] <wxl> my concern in regards to the task is general, i.e. how can we make it easy for people to change theming to their liking rather than just dark and light
[23:53] <wxl> this is why i mentioned a more full featured solution i.e. kvantum
 If, people use breeze, we can use kdeglobals and make a simple app to change the colors (instead of installing full plasma-desktop)
 And people could decide their own colors for breeze
[23:55] <wxl> is plasma needed with kvantum or qt5ct?
[23:55] <wxl> oh they can? without having to write a .colors themselves?
 None of them
 The thing is that plasma has some apps to adjust colors and make your own kdeglobals
[23:56] <wxl> ah
 Wait, moving to a computer
 ok, on a computer now
 easier to type
[23:58] <wxl> is the value with what you're suggesting is that it provides a more unified solution than qt5ct?