[00:58] @RikMills can you have a look at https://phab.lubuntu.me/D69 when you are free? Can't land unless you approve. [00:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Bump version number for new release.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D69 [01:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T19: Task Manager Global Menu Plugin] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T19#2974 [01:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T54: Properly implement different wallpapers for different monitors] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T54#2975 [01:38] ^ maybe i should make a "waiting on upstream to release" status XD [01:39] Gah, I forgot you did that! [01:39] My bad [01:39] i have a "waiting for upstream" [01:39] but i meant that more as "waiting on upstream to fix it" [01:39] i'm saying we should have another one like "fixed upstream, waiting on release" [01:39] kind of like "fix committed" versus "fix released" in launchpad [01:40] makes sense [01:49] In case I wasn't clear i support that idea. [02:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T33: HiDPI Support] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T33#2980 [02:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T145: Package QPS for new upstream release 2.0.0] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T145 [02:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T69: 19.04 SRUs] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T69#2996 [06:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd04b31d1e1fb: Improve wording] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd04b31d1e1fb [06:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL982619e65551: Remove uneeded version number] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL982619e65551 [10:52] Hey! [10:54] I am trying to install Lubuntu, but it says I don-t have enough drive space (at least 8 gB required). However, I do have 10 gB available as unallocated space in my disk. How can I proceed? [10:54] Thanks for the help! [11:03] Aluz, you increase the size of your partition using the unallocated space [11:04] I think they left guiverc [14:38] someone using libreoffice in focal? [14:39] install libreoffice-qt5 and launch it like this: SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=qt5 libreoffice [14:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T146: libreoffice qt vcl] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T146 [15:20] @HMollerCl [someone using libreoffice in focal?], might work on eoan too. [17:02] how are env variables changed globally and permanent? [17:10] @tsimonq2 merge qps 2.0.0 ? [17:10] the lubuntu delta is just VCS and maintainer/uploader [17:11] @RikMills [@tsimonq2 merge qps 2.0.0 ?], Ack go for it [17:11] ok [18:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rQPSPACKAGINGf1d35ed20fe4: merge debian 2.0.0-1] rikmills (Rik Mills) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rQPSPACKAGINGf1d35ed20fe4 [19:17] we should all thumbs up this one https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-runner/issues/138?email_source=notifications&email_token=AAFXADSMGRDUPBR4NNW4E5LQ7HJWXA5CNFSM4KK2MYP2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFUVEXG43VMWVGG33NNVSW45C7NFSM4IIKCODQ [19:18] Issue 138 in lxqt/lxqt-runner "local executables are not picked up by lxqt-runner" [Open] [19:22] @teward001 interested in swapping our IRC bridge over to Matterbridge from TeleIRC? https://phab.lubuntu.me/T124 [19:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] figure out replacement for TeleIRC: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T124 [19:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T145: Package QPS for new upstream release 2.0.0] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T145#3008 [21:03] !standup [21:03] standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez @The_LoudSpeaker wxl[m] guiverc it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call! Afterwards, in order of announcement, post your items and be sure to mention when you're done. [21:04] o/\ [21:04] o/ [21:04] o/ [21:04] oof slept in too late no paste ready [21:04] I have a couple of minutws [21:05] I'm on my celphone [21:06] i don't have a paste either but [21:06] go raman [21:09] Hii. I don't have anything much. Just talking with upstream about some issues and projects. … Digged into grub's theme settings. Working to get lubuntu-grub-theme working by default. … Also, @RikMills accept D69 ploxx. [21:09] That's it. [21:10] ok i'll go [21:10] no movement trying to get i386 enabled in casper yet, but i'm fighting for it. if someone wants to chime in that would perhaps be helpful. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/missing-foreign-architecture-in-eoan/12702 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T143 [21:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Enable i386 architecture: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T143 [21:11] snap 2.43 is still in proposed and needs tested as a solution to fix apps showing in the menus https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139 [21:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Ensure applications in Snap packages show up in the lxqt-panel menu: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T139 [21:12] i made a needsinfo and an upstream status on phab and triaged our 20.04 stuff as such [21:12] been trying to go through tickets there [21:12] pointed out there's some scripts that we could use to make sddm have guest support rather easily if someone wants to look into that https://phab.lubuntu.me/T18 [21:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Implement Guest Sessions in SDDM: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T18 [21:13] we *REALLY* need to deal with merges https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142 [21:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Deal with merges: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142 [21:14] also working with lxqt re: GSoC https://forum.lxqt.org/t/google-summer-of-code-2020/1067/5 https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1651 [21:14] Issue 1651 in lxqt/lxqt "Google summer of code participacion" [Open] [21:15] and that's about it i think [21:15] Thanks wxl ! [21:16] I am next? [21:16] well not me :) [21:16] Improve Quassel dealing with Queries [21:16] Improve text for switching channels in Quassel [21:16] Describe swap column in qps [21:16] Add description of columns for startup disk creator [21:16] various typo fixes [21:16] that is about it [21:16] good job! [21:17] Very nice indeed! [21:17] Here is my list. [21:17] tested adding i386 architecture as a shellprocess in calamares [21:17] commented on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T143 [21:17] Is this the route we want to go with this? ^ [21:17] commented and shuffled some priorities on tasks [21:17] created https://phab.lubuntu.me/T145 which @RikMills has promptly resolved. Thank you. [21:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Enable i386 architecture: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T143 [21:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Resolved] Package QPS for new upstream release 2.0.0: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T145 [21:18] @kc2bez: i want to get it in casper if we can. if not, we do that. [21:18] Ok, sounds good [21:19] Just let me know [21:19] we'll just monitor that until the end i guess [21:19] Well I don't want to wait too long, some testing would be good. [21:20] Other than myself of course [21:20] you could always post it up there and we could test it [21:21] Sure, I can do that, if need be we can abandon it. [21:21] oh i'm not sure everyone saw my post above but there's an issue requesting that runner searches the $PATH (e.g. for $HOME/bin or the like) [21:22] Interesting, will have to read more later. [21:23] @HMollerCl are you still there? [21:24] Yes [21:24] I think you are next. [21:24] I've done some test with breeze-dark and documented here https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137 [21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] improve theming: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137 [21:25] well crap the 2.43 proposed version of snapd doesn't include the fix for snaps in the menu [21:26] In menu search looks bad with dark themes, also happens with kvantum confirmed by @kc2bez, we need to fix it in lubuntu arc lxqt theme [21:26] And I'm doing test with libreoffice-qt5 and works OK, we would need to change en variable for that and add the package to seed [21:27] https://phab.lubuntu.me/T146 [21:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Wishlist, Open] libreoffice qt5 vcl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T146 [21:28] Your proposal on T137 seems to work for dark or light themes so +1 on that [21:28] i agree [21:29] Eof [21:30] @kc2bez [ Your proposal on T137 seems to work for dark or light themes so +1 on t …], Ok, will work on it [21:30] Will try to use a better matched color for the theme [21:31] Thank you @HMollerCl [21:31] Aaaaa and I'm studying for applying to lubuntu developer [21:31] Still don't get the symbol thing [21:42] what symbol thing? [21:44] Symbol files [21:45] ah well [21:45] they're not super fun [21:46] i think the important thing to understand is how to translate errors into understandable meaningful things you can actually take actions on [21:48] in general you don't need to create symbols so much as deal with symbols that are dropped or new ones that are added [21:49] but if you look at https://wiki.debian.org/UsingSymbolsFiles you can see how c++filt parses the symbols file into something that's useful, i.e. something you can relate to the actuall code [21:49] not helpful: OrientationSensor11qt_metacallEN11QMetaObject4CallEiPPv [21:49] helpful: OrientationSensor::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) [21:51] @RikMills you have any other good resources for dealing with symbols? [21:52] pkgkde-symbolshelper :P [21:53] and asking Harald Sitter to check an abi break if I suspect one 😆 [21:53] heh you're no fun XD [21:54] the symbols stuff here is useful as a basis for understanding https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/advanced.en.html [21:54] as well as links to the policy mentioned there [21:55] ACTUALLY this is pretty good https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12664207/how-to-adjust-symbols-file-in-a-debian-package-for-a-shared-lib [21:56] Thanks, will look at them [21:56] you won't have to deal with it *A LOT* and when you do it's usually just a wee fix like that [21:56] i've never had to deal with an ABI break personally [21:57] OOO did someone say ABI break? [21:57] My favorite [21:57] Right @RikMills? :P [21:58] @HMollerCl a little secret: we're PROBABLY not going to grill you on how to deal with an ABI break XD [21:58] If you get really stuck you just ping @tsimonq2 a bunch! XD [21:58] and then when you get sick of him ghosting you, you ping @RikMills instead! [21:59] I'm a simple man. I ignore standup, I ignore "hey Simon what do you think", but ABI break, man, what's that all about? [21:59] XDD [21:59] Nah I'm just kidding [22:01] XD [22:03] Oops [22:05] Oops! Sorry! [22:05] It happens! It's all good [22:05] hmmmm [22:05] Jajaja [22:06] * wxl thinks… next time he needs simon for something trivial… "ABI BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!" [22:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6129d9255ce2: Link cdimage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6129d9255ce2 [23:37] calamares going to support zfs installs in 20.04? [23:37] that's a question for kpmcore honestly [23:38] ^ [23:38] https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/533 [23:38] Issue 533 in calamares/calamares "ZFS support" [Open] [23:39] huh https://github.com/KDE/kpmcore/search?q=zfs&type=Code [23:42] I suspect not then [23:42] well i don't know [23:42] I don't think [ade] is back from conference yet. I would imagine a relatively quick turnaround on that once he starts work on it. [23:42] that sort of suggests kpmcore supports it [23:43] those are relatively recent commits [23:44] oh wow i hadn't even noticed that [23:44] might want to hit up the upstream issue with that notification. would you be so kind dan? [23:44] sure. will do. [23:46] thx [23:47] then again, considering Ubuntu landed zfs support in ubiquity 10 days before 19.10 release, there is plenty of time yet.... 😆 [23:47] hehehe [23:51] Wxl what do you think of https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137#2946?? [23:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] improve theming: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137#2946?? [23:52] @HMollerCl you mean fixing the default .qss? [23:52] Nope, kdeglobala [23:52] 1s [23:52] Kdeglobals using it to make breeze dark [23:53] my concern in regards to the task is general, i.e. how can we make it easy for people to change theming to their liking rather than just dark and light [23:53] this is why i mentioned a more full featured solution i.e. kvantum [23:54] If, people use breeze, we can use kdeglobals and make a simple app to change the colors (instead of installing full plasma-desktop) [23:55] And people could decide their own colors for breeze [23:55] is plasma needed with kvantum or qt5ct? [23:55] oh they can? without having to write a .colors themselves? [23:55] None of them [23:55] The thing is that plasma has some apps to adjust colors and make your own kdeglobals [23:56] ah [23:56] Wait, moving to a computer [23:57] ok, on a computer now [23:57] easier to type [23:58] is the value with what you're suggesting is that it provides a more unified solution than qt5ct?