[00:23] pcworld: https://usn.ubuntu.com/4247-1/ should fix your issue [00:23] pcworld: thanhks for the report [00:35] update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.3.0-26-generic [00:35] libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-config.c:656 kmod_config_parse: /etc/modprobe.d/gryo.conf line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'hid_sensor_hub' [00:36] I'm guessing because I did: [00:38] sudo vim /etc/default/grub ... GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="modprobe.blacklist=hid_sensor_hub" [00:39] nvm - /etc/modprobe.d/gryo.conf ... hid_sensor_hub [01:03] pcworld: https://usn.ubuntu.com/4247-2/ rather (sorry) [01:22] sarnold, is there a way to determine if a machine is affected? [01:23] or rather, does that only affect an attempt to update to a newer version of Ubuntu? [01:24] pragmaticenigma: well, there may still be other consequences of the python-apt update -- but the do-release-upgrade command ought to be working again [01:26] sarnold: thanks, worked around it in the meantime. But nice that it got fixed so quickly. [01:30] thanks sarnold ... wasn't planning on version upgrade... didn't know if it affected the regular updates [01:31] pragmaticenigma: I don't believe it does === zbenjamin is now known as Guest47041 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:39] Hey, I would appreciate some help if I am going crazy [02:39] I got a new machine (identical in every way except RAM and SSD) and swapped the RAM and SSD into it [02:40] Now, I cannot boot because GRUB is missing [02:40] I've tried everything I can find online, even installing ubuntu again on a spare partition (hoping it will set things up for itself) to no avail [02:41] What should I do? The old machine had a bad mobo, so I cannot do anything with it, but the RAM and SSD were fine on it till the end [02:53] hello? [03:19] Hi folks. [03:19] Question. [03:20] !ask | pipegeek [03:20] pipegeek: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [03:20] Can anyone direct me to how I would start a preseed config from network via grub? [03:20] okay y'all can kick me for being offtopic if you want to, but i have a USB drive that has an Ubuntu 18.04 LTS ISO flashed to it, and I have 2 machines with Ubuntu installed. HOWEVER, I haven't used the installer USB for quite a long time and am kind of tempted to start using it as a general purpose USB for school. What should I do? [03:20] i've tried net_bootp and it cannot find any network cards. [03:21] brendantcc just erase it using whatever disk management suite your OS has [03:21] I have a single package held at a specific version (google chrome) because I need it there to develop on a really ancient application (current chrome's remote adb debugger seems to break for this app and I haven't tracked down why). That browser is not used for any other reason. [03:21] Wally: There is an ipxe addon for grub. [03:21] Kinda no point keeping these usb images around specifically as they're probably going to be upgraded eventually. [03:21] cheers Wally! :) [03:21] is that via insmod? [03:22] My question is: I'd like to upgrade ubuntu. The upgrade process silently refuses to start because not all packages are up to date. [03:22] is there any way to force the upgrade to proceed despite the held package? [03:22] genii the problem is I'm sorta restricted in using PXE as Windows is hogging that entire thing :) [03:23] (I am on ubuntu 19.04; upgrading to 19.10) [03:23] I just need DHCP access which I cannot seem to get unless I go to busybox [03:23] pipegeek: 19.04 went End Of Life a while ago. Change the sources.list urls to old-releases.ubuntu.com [03:24] genii, that doesn't really answer the question. I'm upgrading to latest ubuntu from next-to-latest [03:24] the upgrade tool ought to still work, shouldn't it? [03:24] pipegeek: Then do all the upgrades required to bring your packages up to date. Then upgrade to 10.10 [03:24] 19.10...rather [03:25] genii, and I am saying, there is a specific package that is held back at an ancient version, and I'm wondering if there's a way to bypass that check so I don't have to uninstall it and track down that ancient deb again after. [03:25] pipegeek: I've stated what you need to do as succintly as I can. [03:26] genii, I understand what you are telling me to do. I am asking if there is another way. If you are saying that there isn't, that's fine haha [03:26] I just want to know if there isn't. [03:26] I don't think the question is unreasonable x) [03:27] have you done a dist-upgrade? [03:27] pipegeek: do-release-upgrade won't proceed unless the version you're upgrading from is without dependency issues [03:27] that said, I think the "other way" it now occurs to me is to disable /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list [03:27] and then do the upgrade. [03:27] if I do that, it won't see that there is a newer version. [03:28] that is the answer I was looking for. [03:28] yeah that'd be an option [03:28] thanks, Wally :) [03:28] np I suppose :P [03:28] x) [03:28] alright, let's try this [03:28] Grub doesn't even detect a network card -_- [03:29] yup, there it goes. [03:29] Winner [03:30] hahaha amusingly the upgrade tool actually disables all 3rd party sources.list.d/ entries anyway, it just refuses to proceed to the point of doing so in my case unless I do it myself first xD [03:37] hello? [03:46] hi [03:48] gambl0re, feel free to ask your question :) [03:48] oh ok, does anyone use tlp? [03:50] it's best to just ask the question you're trying to solve --- people check back periodically and anyone who knows tlp will then be able to see it and respond [03:50] (I unfortunately do not) [03:51] (also, welcome!) [03:51] I've used tlp here and there but not the one to ask about it :) [03:55] now finally dealing with the fact that I made the / LV too small years ago and it's now too full to upgrade xD [03:55] my partition table is a mess resulting from having steadily encroached on my windows partition until I finally decided to remove it [03:55] but pvmove is magic! [03:58] gambl0re, feel free to just ask your question. If someone can answer, they'll respond when they can. It may be a while x) [04:01] yes but by the time somebody answers i wont be online [04:02] if anyone can help me, just PM me. thanks [04:19] I just upgraded from kernel 4.15 to 5.3 and installed the backported iwlwifi driver package to get my wifi card working again. Now it's recognized and I can see networks and I can try to connect, but all wpa2 passwords are rejected. How can I troubleshoot that? [04:21] if you haven't, might be worth seeing if anything that looks relevant is showing up in journalctl or dmesg [04:23] sparr, === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [04:24] I expect the connection attempts are likely being logged to journald and you may see the reason for the failure in there [04:29] https://gist.github.com/sparr/6f8653c911eed277cb2045d92e26c38b [04:30] that's the span of time from selecting a network, authentication failing, I am prompted for the password, I cancel the prompt [04:31] sometimes the failure takes 1 second, sometimes 10 [04:32] sparr: your password for Loopback Lab is accepted [04:32] sparr: and you are successfully associated and authenticated with Loopback labs wireless network [04:33] at no point do I have a fully successful authentication. a new password prompt pops up 1-10 seconds after I try to connect. [04:34] I'm having other problems with the 5.3 kernel. I'm gonna try 5.2 to see if this or other problems go away. back shortly. [04:34] kk [04:35] oh, I guess not... [04:35] 5.2 doesn't seem available [04:37] Jan 22 20:27:40 shaggy NetworkManager[1102]: [1579753660.2167] device (p2p-dev-wlp2s0): supplicant management interface state: authenticating -> associating [04:37] Jan 22 20:27:40 shaggy kernel: wlp2s0: authenticated [04:37] seems you get disassociated at some point and then a handshake failure [04:37] wierd...maybe jeremy31 is around [04:39] aha, gonna try the oem kernel, apparently it actually ships with iwlwifi drivers [04:39] sparr: have you tried disabling hardware encryption? [04:39] worst case, I have to go back to 4.15 and keep troubleshooting the much bigger wifi problem there [04:39] sudo modprobe iwlwifi nohwcrypt=1 [04:40] after rmmod iwlwifi of course [04:40] I'm just curious if that causes it to start working because if it does you may at least know where to start looking for what is broken [04:40] sparr: oh, or yes that (the oem kernel) x) === Disconsented is now known as Discombobulated [04:41] with nohwcrypt=1 I am re-prompted for the password in <1 second almost every time [04:41] huh. odd. [04:41] and I assume you *are* able to connect to unsecured wireless networks and that you've double-checked that the password is correct [04:42] (though I assume that it must be if it's the same one that was working before the upgrade) [04:42] yes, I am able to connect to unsecured networks [04:42] and yes, if there's a known-good kernel that may be the simplest option x) [04:42] and yes I've many-checked the password, despite it being the saved password that worked before the problem that prompted the upgrade [04:42] right. I mean, I figured [04:42] just didn't want not to have asked haha [04:42] good luck. [04:43] the pre-upgrade problem was also wifi related, the card wasn't recognized at all because I couldn't get iwlwifi built for kernel 4.15 [04:45] Grrrrrr. [04:47] backport-iwlwifi-dkms would install and build... a module not compatible with the running kernel [04:47] maybe I need to go back to 4.15 where everything else worked fine and work harder to fix THAT [04:47] or get yourself a $15 USB wireless card [04:48] and call it a day [04:48] that would make my laptop significantly less portable [04:48] yeah..but what good is being portable without connectivity [04:48] ok, new question! [04:49] my grub menu has just one main "Ubuntu" entry and a few maintenance entries, not one entry per kernel like I am used to seeing [04:49] how can I persistently change the kernel that's used by that entry? [04:49] I think the older kernels go away on their own now in newer ubuntu version [04:50] unlike the old days [04:51] sparr: are you chatting from the computer right now? [04:51] do you actually have more than two kernel versions on the system? [05:00] I am [05:02] I'm and yes I do [05:02] I'm getting internet via bluetooth tethering [05:02] sparr: in terminal> awk -F\' '/menuentry / {print $2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg|nc termbin.com 9999 [05:02] sparr: share url/link here [05:02] sparr: if you do not get a url/link....say so [05:03] I have installed 4.15.0-1065-oem, 4.15.0-1066-oem, 5.0.0-1033-oem-osp1, 5.3.0-26-generic [05:04] https://termbin.com/uw8z [05:05] sparr: my grub menu has just one main "Ubuntu" entry and a few maintenance entries, not one entry per kernel like I am used to seeing [05:05] sparr: that's not what I see [05:06] sparr: i see one entry per kernel [05:06] the list that command produced is what I am used to the grub menu looking like in past years [05:06] I'll reboot and take a photo, brb [05:06] okie dokie [05:08] i'd expect the photo to be the same [05:08] but i guess we'll see [05:10] four entries, first is "*Ubuntu" which boots the default/current/whatever kernel. Second is "Advanced options for Ubuntu" which is a submenu that contains the list of kernels (yay for finding that!), three is System setup and four is Restore OS to factory state [05:11] so, good news, I found the kernel list and selected 5.0.0-1033-oem-osp1 and my wifi Just Works, and my other 5.3 problem may also be gone, so yay [05:11] that leaves me needing to figure out how to make this kernel be used by the "*Ubuntu" grub menu entry [05:12] I'm sure I'll eventually run into a problem with 5.0, but maybe by then there will be a newer 5.x.x-oem [05:13] you can set the default kernel to boot into using the grub-set-default X command, where X is the number of the kernel you want to boot into. In some distributions you can also set this number by editing the /etc/default/grub file and setting GRUB_DEFAULT=X , and then running update-grub [05:13] sparr: that should address that [05:14] I found that instruction online, but that seems to mean that X is really the number of the menu entry? [05:15] so I either need to know how to represeent an item in a sub-menu, or I need to change the kernel the entry on the top level menu uses [05:16] sparr: X=4/15 blah blah blah [05:16] 4.15 [05:16] wait, what? [05:17] none of the docs appear to suggest I can use a kernel version to refer to a menu entry. how would that even work, since you can represent non-linux stuff as grub menu entries like booting to windows or from a diskette? [05:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus [05:19] "Setting a Main Menu entry as the default [05:19] " [05:19] The title can also be used to specify the menuentry to be used. [05:20] GRUB_DEFAULT="Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-23-generic" [05:20] sparr: like that [05:21] sparr: good luck...have fun [05:22] thanks, will see if I can get it to work === doug16k_ is now known as doug16k [06:08] Hi [06:08] hey Intelo, if you have a question, just ask away [06:08] Is there a way to install ubuntu UI on a different computer and backend/server on a different computer and then make the communicate over LAN? [06:10] as far as I understand your question, yes. but I am not 100% sure I understand the question [06:10] quadrathoch2, If you tell how, it will cross tally my question too [06:11] Intelo, maybe try to explain your question in another way [06:12] You install server ubuntu on one machine, you install kde on another. [06:12] makes sense? [06:12] yes [06:12] quadrathoch2, just like a web page. html and backed database are separate things. Don't need to be on same machine but can communicate [06:13] quadrathoch2, How is it possible for an OS like ubuntu [06:14] Intelo, yes it's possible, without any issue. you just need to tell the programs what to do (if something certain happens) [06:14] i doubt it [06:14] quadrathoch2, give me one example [06:14] tatertots, me too but curious [06:15] hm any bigger homepage has multiple servers in the back [06:15] quadrathoch2, not neccesarily [06:16] as I said, most bigger sites. not any [06:24] quadrathoch2, ok [06:43] quadrathoch2, whats the difference between X forwarding and thin client? [06:45] Intelo, oO you can't really compare them. as X forwarding is software, a thin client is a pc [06:45] so hardware [07:12] quadrathoch2, how does thin client uses resources? [07:12] of server [07:14] Intelo, thin clients only show you the GUI, the heavy lifting is done on the server. So you need a very powerful server if you have multiple thin clients [07:15] hm [07:15] But you could configure it to a point where maybe the thin client has a full OS. [07:15] as thin clients are pretty powerful nowadays [07:16] Is there a browser based UI for ubuntu os? [07:18] Intelo, depends on your needs. I would just use for example openbox, i3 or sth like that and put firefox into kiosk mode [07:21] sth? [07:23] he doesn't actually own any thin clients so.. [07:24] Intelo, something [07:24] tatertots, I assumed that as well [07:27] quadrathoch2, what will openbox and ff do in a nutshell? [07:27] quadrathoch2, trying to understand your setup [07:28] what ubuntu issue are you actually having? [07:29] Intelo, openbox is just a window manager so you can show firefox. And you were asking for a browser... that's why I was mentioning firefox in kiosk mode [07:29] I think there's a whole ubuntu-offtopic room [07:29] for casual non technical support related convo [07:29] tatertots, that's what I am also myself asking [07:30] if Intelo wants to do a poll or ask what other users are doing he needs to go to ubuntu-offtopic [07:31] he doesn't actually have a ubuntu technical issue at the moment [07:47] HI.. I'm starting a quick n' dirty webserver inside a directory using python.3. Is there any way I can make the server accessible to all devices connected on the same network ?? [07:47] How I'm running the server is by >> python3 -m http.server --cgi 8080 === doug16__ is now known as doug16k === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 === autra is now known as jeanne === jeanne is now known as autra [09:24] Is it expected that the amount disk space required for the filesystem bookkeeping/metadata, for a 4 TB ext4 volume which is empty, is on the order of tens of gigabytes? [09:28] there's always going to be some overhead used so you'll never get the advertised capacity after disk is in use [09:29] Yeah, I was just worried... I'm doing this on a sparse virtual disk for a VM and I'm watching the size of it grow as it formats, I think I just never noticed before how large that overhead is [09:56] 'morning [11:02] Hi. What is a good network monitor tool that allows you to track data used on a network interface [11:03] Ideally stats for per day [11:31] JadedJ: ntopg, nagios [11:32] JadedJ: zabbix [11:37] how can i do gnome-screenshot -a from gnome w/o using the command line? [11:37] eliyahuTBR, alt+f2? idk if it works [11:38] alt+f2 is a volume control for me. alt+printscreen captures the entire screen [11:38] eliyahuTBR: just press print screen button on the keyboard or ctrl+alt+printscreen [11:49] tatertots: Are those desgined for ubuntu server? [12:02] JadedJ: they're more generic than that but there isn't much about ubuntu networking that's particularly different to other linux distros. [12:05] Hii. I am trying to install eoan on a lenovo legion laptop. Which has 16gb optane memory. The installer just hangs while scanning drives for partitions. Even grub got stuck while searching for partitions. Any ideas on how to go about? [12:11] The_LoudSpeaker: try a different version/edition [12:11] tatertots: k. Will try. [12:15] Hello, i am looking for a simple approach to send pdfs as emails - embed an pdf in an email so to say. not as an attachment [12:15] I would imagine to use html in my email which displays a pdf document but there might be another way i am not familiar with [12:16] since digging around a little, using html seem to be problematic due to a missing standard and different rendering engines so i can never be sure it will display my content [12:17] copy/paste [12:18] doesn't get much simpler than that [12:18] if i copy a pdf and paste it into my email client it just writes oout the link [12:19] i am using geary, if that matters [12:19] tatertots, which client are you using ? [12:20] that means you're not copying the pdf contents === Wryhder is now known as Lucas_Gray [12:22] Thank you for your help ! [12:29] Howdy folks [12:32] Is there going to be any support for kernel 5.4 in Ubuntu 18.04? [12:33] myuser__: why do you need 5.4? [12:34] myuser__, when 20.04 is out, it will happen after some time afterwards [12:36] lotuspsychje = More support for Ryzen 3000 hardware [12:37] Any other way to get Ryzen 3000 sensor support? e.g. userland app, LKM, etc? [12:37] myuser__, I would just wait till 20.04 is out [12:37] quadrathoch2: Any timeline on that? [12:38] quadrathoch2: 20.04 already have 5.4 [12:38] well, in april ^^ [12:38] Oh, sweet [12:38] that's why you have the 4 after the dot ^^ [12:38] what's the best free way to easily add 2 factor authentication to a Ubuntu Desktop box ? [12:38] Oh, I never knew that [12:38] can you use duo.com, with ubuntu desktop ? [12:39] eaxxae: is duo free? [12:39] eaxxae: Yes, you can use many different 2FA options... Look into pam modules [12:40] pragmaticenigma, thx. [12:40] myuser__, yes, I used it on my mac it's mostly free [12:41] I want to use something that can send text messages to a cell phone thou [12:42] eaxxae: None of those options are free... as a SMS service provider has to be involved. Also, SMS is NOT secure and shouldn't be used for 2FA [12:43] pragmaticenigma, why do you say it's unsafe, you mean an app on a smartphone is more secure ? [12:45] Is there a set of standard tests that can be run for stress-ng. I don't really know what options would be use to determine the hardware is solid, but not fry it. [12:47] eaxxae: Unfortunately that isn't a topic for this channel. But SMS is trivial to circumvent, seach for "SIM Swapping Attack" on the web and you'll see why. [12:50] pragmaticenigma, makes sense. thanks. [13:12] is there anyone here who can help me with google chrome sync and ubuntu 19? [13:13] did you log into chrome? [13:13] hi tatertots! yes. also I entered the password from chrome sync [13:14] when checking on google.com how many passwords are stored, it says arond 800. [13:14] was your log in successful? did you see error? [13:14] but it syncs 0 passwords to my ubuntu chrome [13:14] yes [13:15] maybe useful information: on booting ubuintu chrome said that it was not shut down correctly. [13:15] frank1e: Chrome is supported by Google, support for chrome is available here: https://support.google.com/chrome/?hl=en#topic=7438008 [13:16] frank1e: This channel focuses support on software made available through the official Ubuntu software repositories [13:16] ok [13:17] chrome does not say something on boot, that must be ubuntu itself [13:17] use chromium :) [13:17] oerheks, it did say that when booting ubuntu and starting chrome right away [13:17] anyway, will use the google help site then. thanks for your time! [13:21] frank1e, wipe the ~/.config/google-chrome folder, and restart chrome, login and sync [13:21] maybe some cruft under ~/.cache too [13:32] oerheks, the .cache folder was it, thanks! [13:33] :) [13:33] yay, have fun! [14:49] Anyone knows if sssd will be affected be the upcoming Microsoft LDAP change in March? It seems it will. I was wondering if the Ubuntu devs were tracking that. [14:51] I am on 18.04 LTS, how can I install a specific package from 19.10 while staying with 18.04? [14:51] siwica, i wouldn't do it, it could break alot [14:53] siwica, that's bad practice, as quadrathoch2 said it could break your system and put you in dependency hell [14:53] I am debugging a Samba problem and want to try out whether or not the Samba version from 19.10 solves it. [14:53] siwica: Use a VM for your testing? [14:54] just not advisable [14:55] Well, maybe I'll just update to 19.10 then since the next LTS seems to be coming soon. [14:55] siwica, what's wrong with your existing samba version, what kind of errors are you getting, if any [14:55] ? [14:57] Well, basically we're experiencing some weird behaviour on two Windows machines that are potentially connected to Samba shares. The IT person we hired to resolve the issue asked me whether I could upgrade Samba on the Server. [14:57] I doubt a newer version will resolve it though. [14:57] and what issues are those? [15:00] The Windows Explorer does not refresh after any changes (file creation, renaming, ..) and the computer gets stuck during shutdown. The issues are gone when there is no network connection. [15:01] It's very puzzling to me that the symptoms are related to something going on on the network, but it seems with Windows anything is possible. [15:01] siwica, I would try with a vm, container, or really upgrade (which is probably the worst idea) [15:01] if you really want to upgrade the samba server [15:03] siwica, if you already have a container (docker) playfield it shouldn't take long [15:03] siwica: an update to samba is not likely to solve that issue. and it honestly sounds more like a problem with authentication, you mentioned earlier that you're running LDAP... does windows use the same credentials to access the smb shares? [15:04] Hm, not running LDAP. Where did I mention that? [15:04] he didn't mention ldap pragmaticenigma [15:04] I also thought it might me connected to authentication. [15:04] quadrathoch2: The very first thing they stated in the chat [15:04] but I also assume it's windows :/ [15:05] oh... woops [15:05] :) [15:05] I could post a my smb.conf? [15:05] * pragmaticenigma apologies for the assumption... hexchat color coded two people with the color [15:05] siwica, that would be great [15:06] paste.ubuntu.com is a good place siwica [15:08] https://pastebin.com/Svfq0PPH [15:11] siwica: just a thought... anything in the samba logs? /var/log/smbd.log (I think) [15:12] siwica, the samba server is running on 18.04 or? [15:12] Yes, running on 18.04 [15:12] so maybe the technician is not wrong :/ https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-files/windows-10-explorer-doesnt-refresh-after-copying/75855db6-993f-49d1-80a8-d2ee6b46e309 [15:13] he fixed it by using a newer samba server version, and probably this happened again, as ms was 'updating' the samba client side maybe [15:14] Wasn't there some samba updates just pushed to ubuntu in the last week? [15:15] siwica: what is the actual issue?.....2x windows PC's "potentially" connected to a SMB share on ubuntu?...they either are or they aren't but that still doesn't shed any light on the actual problem [15:15] no idea, not using ubuntu :/ [15:16] siwica: I presently have several samba updates waiting for updates on my machine that were pushed out in the last week. Have you made sure your server is fully patched? [15:17] pragmaticenigma, i assumed the server was fully patched [15:18] siwica: an example of a problem would be something like "I'm trying to share files with windows PC and it does not work"...or "I am sharing files with windows PC and they can read but NOT write" [15:19] The server is fully patched. Just installed the most recent samba updates. [15:19] tatertots, huh? he explained fully clear what's not working [15:20] quadrathoch2: I don't assume that when it appears requester is in a business environment... many business wait on patching to see if there are bugs (and also when patches were released within the last 2 days) [15:20] quadrathoch2: where?...copy and repaste his post..."weird behavior" isn't detailed [15:20] quadrathoch2: did you read more into "weird behavior" than i did? [15:20] tatertots: I clarified in a later post. [15:20] tatertots, The Windows Explorer does not refresh after any changes (file creation, renaming, ..) and the computer gets stuck during shutdown. The issues are gone when there is no network connection. [15:21] pragmaticenigma, oh, didn't know the patches were that new. so you are right :/ [15:21] tatertots: is smb used for shared printing? [15:21] quadrathoch2: thanks [15:21] I didn't see it in the config file [15:21] quadrathoch2: Thanks, i'll look into that Microsoft post. [15:22] pragmaticenigma, nope, it's not [15:22] I disabled shared printing to make sure the problem is not related to it. [15:22] err.. .sorry tatertots wrong tab [15:23] siwica: here's what I'm wondering, if their was a shared printer, and there was a failed print job or something in the queue/spool... that could explain some behavior. I'd check the client machines to make sure those printers are removed and there is nothing in the printer spool directory [15:24] Well there was never a shared printer connected to the Ubuntu-Server. I just used some default config that had shared printing enabled initially. [15:24] ah okay [15:25] Maybe I'll just update to 19.04 then. [15:25] siwica: and nothing appears in the log files at all? anything in windows event viewer show a log entry for the remote connection? [15:25] that's small enough of a environment to spin up another ubuntu VM and share a folder and see if the symptom persists with a different version Ubuntu VM [15:26] Just need to be at site for that. Too afraid of anything going wrong while being in a city 500km away. [15:26] siwica: 19.04 ended support, thought you have to jump into 19.04 to reach 19.10. A lot of risk to take for this problem. I would really encourage the use of a VM and setup a test server [15:26] siwica, that's why I would setup a quick vm, container to see if it's really the 'old' version [15:26] siwica, nothing should break with this [15:26] I would go as far as setting up both a 18.04 and 19.10 server... just to rule out a configuration issue [15:27] if the symptom occurs only with your non LTS Ubuntu share and NOT with the LTS Ubuntu VM used for pilot testing then there you go [15:27] There are two more computers (running Windows 10 Home) for which the issues do not occur (while having the same shares mounted). The issue only occurs on Windows 10 Pro. [15:27] Then I really doubt upgrading the server is the solution [15:28] Doesn't matter the windows version, they all have the same libraries and software... things are just locked out from user access in Home [15:28] Ok, I'll probably try to use a VM then. Have KVM running for a Windows VM anyways, so that should not be too hard. [15:28] so you only have an issue with 2 windows pc's while other windows PC's on the same network are fine and do not exhibit this behavior....that's very telling [15:28] that kinda rules out thing right there [15:29] yeah, so it's more of a win problem imho, or configuration on windows issue [15:29] issue is isolated to two specific windows PC and not the rest of the windows PC's on the network..... [15:29] Are you sure, Windows 10 Home/Pro use the absolute same libraries and have the same update plan? [15:29] totally windows issue [15:30] siwica, yeah 100% [15:30] siwica: Yes, I'm absolutely sure... they've been doing that since Windows XP... cheaper to make one program and turn features off for cheaper versions. [15:30] they do the same with CPU [15:31] Alright then. [15:31] your symptoms stay with those two PC's while other windows PC do not exhibit the symptom...rules out ubuntu and the other windows pc's [15:31] siwica, if you want to really figure out if it's samba or not, just spin up a vm [15:31] Ok, I'll do the VM then if I have time. [15:32] siwica, iirc win10 uses 2 kinds of SMB : smb direct and the old smb 1.0 ; maybe on the Pro version smb 1.0 is deactivated [15:33] I looked at the Network traffic with wireshark. SMB2 seems to be negotiated regardless of the specific client. [15:33] ioria: I thought Ubuntu 18.04 came with the 1.0 protocol disabled by default... I seem to remember having to turn it on for one of my network devices to beable to drop files into my server [15:33] Also, SMB1 is switched off after some Windows Update I think. [15:35] pragmaticenigma, not sure about that , sy [15:35] the mere fact that all the other windows PC on the network are fine with the exception of two ..speaks volumes [15:35] I am really disappointed nothing useful appears in the Windows logs, though. It really sucks to debug Windows issues. [15:35] tatertots: you've already said those things several times now... let's focus on moving forward [15:35] The hardware is not identical, though. [15:35] siwica, restart Workstation service on the not-working windows 10 [15:37] pragmaticenigma: he can't spin up a ubuntu VM any time soon to get any confirmation today....so rambling on about the issue or more speculation is all you can really mean by "move forward" [15:37] practically speaking [15:40] Hey, I know you can chmod from a live cd to an installed instance, but can you do the reverse, chmod into a live cd instance from an installed instance? [15:41] Praeceps: what exactly are you trying to do? [15:41] if you're booted to LiveCD/LiveUSB how would you imagine to do that? [15:42] pragmaticenigma, Our lab computers have 16.04 on them, the software I'm trying to use doesn't seem to work properly on 16.04 and I'd like to have a consistent persistent environment to do my testing in [15:42] (The computers wipe automatically at midnight) [15:42] I have root access but the boot menu is locked down to stop people messing with the auto wiping stuff [15:43] Praeceps: if you have root, you could add a bootable usb to GRUB. Or you could just run a VM or LXD container [15:43] leftyfb, I did think about grub, would an update-grub discover the usb device? [15:44] Praeceps: I don't know the details of adding the usb to grub, I just know it's possible [15:44] Google is my friend I guess, what about just a straight up chroot into the live cd environment? Is something like that possible? [15:44] live usb? I guess in this case [15:45] Praeceps: the live environment is a squashfs filesystem. Not easily chrootable [15:45] ioria: Do you know how to find out the German translation of Workstation Sevice? [15:45] Praeceps: It's possible, but I would go the route of Live USB with persistence [15:45] Praeceps: but if the machine locked down to not boot from USB... then it sounds like you need to find a different location to do your work [15:45] pragmaticenigma, I've already configured the Live USB with persistence using mkusb [15:46] Well, thank's for your helpt guys! I'll try spinning up a VM to see if that solves the issue. [15:46] pragmaticenigma, The ironic thing is this is the place to do my work, the locking down of the boot menu seems like an arbitrary restriction to me [15:46] Praeceps: if you don't need a GUI for anything you're working on, you really should just look at spinning up an LXD container. It takes minutes to setup [15:46] Praeceps: to you perhaps... but if you're not the manager of the lab... then it sounds like you need to reach out to the manager of the lap to get permission. [15:47] pragmaticenigma, Yeah, I'm going to reach out to my supervisor [15:47] Like it's literally a lab for working with hacking tools and malware [15:47]