[07:14] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:33] <frickler> Wally: for 18.04 you need to use the alternative netboot image, that works fine for me. sadly for 20.04 that will no longer be available, will need to revamp our installation environment
[14:17] <frickler> coreycb: jamespage: will focal really have py3.8 as default? currently I'm still seeing py3.7. c.f. https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/runtimes/victoria.html
[14:18] <coreycb> frickler: that's the plan, yes. victoria upstream will officially support 3.8 but ussuri upstream won't.
[14:19] <frickler> coreycb: I'm talking about current focal cloud image, it still says that py3.7 is the default python3
[14:20] <coreycb> frickler: doko is working on the transition to 3.8 for focal. it will likely be very soon.
[14:21] <frickler> coreycb: ah, o.k., thx
[14:22] <coreycb> frickler: if you want to give a review of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/693401/ it might help giveit a nudge so we can at least get some unit test coverage upstream
[14:24] <GreyXor> Hi everyone, there is no landscape for ubuntu server 19.10 ?
[14:27] <tomreyn> GreyXor: did you check for a snap?
[14:27] <GreyXor> tomreyn, i just follow official documentation
[14:28] <GreyXor> https://landscape.canonical.com/set-up-on-prem
[14:32] <Ussat> why would you use landscape on 19.10 , a non lts version ?
[14:33] <GreyXor> Ussat, who said landscape it's only for lts version ?
[14:33] <frickler> coreycb: done, will ping other reviewers, too
[14:33] <Ussat> I never said it was only for lts
[14:33] <coreycb> frickler: thanks
[14:34] <Ussat> I asked why you would on a non lts version
[14:34] <GreyXor> because i don't have a lts version
[14:34] <Ussat> Install one ?
[14:35] <GreyXor> Ussat, why ? i already have 19.10 and it's working well, i don't want to reinstall all server for landscape
[14:35] <Ussat> ...
[14:35] <Ussat> ok
[14:35] <GreyXor> so, initial question :) there is no landscape for ubuntu server 19.10 ?
[14:36] <GreyXor> Ussat, I don't understand why you want to redirect me to a lts...
[14:38] <Ussat> because, landscape is generally used in an enterprise, which generally, has os's that have a loonger lifetime than a non lts.
[14:38] <Ussat> but do what you want
[14:38] <Ussat> a non LTS will stop getting updates/security fixes LONG before a non-lts
[14:38] <Ussat> long before a LTS I mean
[14:39] <tomreyn> GreyXor: the set-up-on-prem page refers to this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~landscape/+archive/ubuntu/19.10 - 19.10 here refers to a Landscape release version, not an Ubuntu version. See the Ubuntu releases it is available for below under "Published in".
[14:39] <GreyXor> Ussat, that your opinion, i don't admit "generally" word. i know why LTS can be better for enterprise. i told you i have 19.10 and you try to redirect me to 18.04.. my first question is simple. there is no landscape for 19.10 ? but i see it's a coimplicated question
[14:40] <GreyXor> tomreyn, ahh thanks :)
[14:40] <Ussat> do what you want......its generally not an opinion that enterprises are better off with more stable things, but ok
[14:40] <tomreyn> so the simple answer is, there is no landscape 19.10 for ubuntu 19.10 from this PPA
[14:41] <GreyXor> easy