[21:06] lucidone: Note the default-backend service is optional, so you may be able to skip it for now and the controller will still work. [23:47] evhan: I've charmified the backend service alright. controller itself needs ClusterRole _and_ Role .. although I wonder if it can live with just the ClusterRole rules [23:49] Right, it might be that it creates both but only needs one depending on how you decide to deploy the controller. [23:53] Looks like it creates both when RBAC is enabled. [23:54] It only* creates both. [23:55] And when the controller isn't scoped. [23:56] So I'd guess you can do just the Role if you restrict the controller, and vice versa. But, totally guessing.