| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:06 |
|---|---|---|
| lotuspsychje | !info grab xenial | 03:28 |
| ubot5 | Package grab does not exist in xenial | 03:29 |
| lotuspsychje | nerdjones: we cant generalize snaps are bad easy | 04:44 |
| lotuspsychje | there are alot of snaps, by different maintainers, and some have bugs, just like other packages | 04:45 |
| lotuspsychje | its the users choice also to use snaps or not | 04:45 |
| nerdjones | i think the conversation was more along the lines of snaps in general are not a good idea, i dont remember. what brought it back to me was i noticed that the software app has me downloading a lot of snaps and there are a lot of /dev/loops in blkid. | 04:48 |
| Bashing-om | Keep in mind too that snaps depends on the use case; in IOT snaps are the thing; and "might" be useful on the desktop. | 04:49 |
| Bashing-om | nerdjones: If one really has no desire for snaps, the tool can be removed ;) | 04:56 |
| nerdjones | if it works i dont really see a problem with it, i was just a little alarmed by all the /dev/loops in blkid and there are also a lot of entrys in dmesg for chrome, but im not sure if thats snap related or just chrome being chrome, but it does make it harder to find info i have needed in the whole 2 hours ive been using ubuntu again | 04:59 |
| Bashing-om | nerdjones: chromium has gone the snap way- and we (me) have parted ways. | 05:03 |
| nerdjones | Bashing-om: because of the snap thing? are you anti-snap? | 05:07 |
| Bashing-om | nerdjones: Not so much anti-snap as pro-apt on the desktop. Bear in mind I do have limited assets in this ole box :P | 05:08 |
| nerdjones | its been years since ive used ubuntu but im already finding myself leaning more towards apt, just because i remember using it mostly, is there a way to convince the app store to use apt? or is it how the dev package thigns so i cant do much about it? | 05:12 |
| Bashing-om | nerdjones: No experience withthe "app store" so cannot comment there. I have become conversant with the command line :P | 05:18 |
| guiverc2 | has Kubuntu switched to use calamares installer? (instead of ubiquity) | 05:56 |
| marcoagpinto | Hello! | 07:47 |
| marcoagpinto | Why isn't there an option to show the resolution of videos in the folders | 07:47 |
| marcoagpinto | ? | 07:47 |
| marcoagpinto | Windows 10 has that feature | 07:48 |
| marcoagpinto | tested with 18.04 | 07:48 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: you mean the size of thumbnails in nautilus? | 08:17 |
| marcoagpinto | lotuspsychje: no, a tab showing 1280x720 | 08:18 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 08:18 |
| lotuspsychje | guiverc2: ive read 20.04 made a revamp of ubiquity, is that what you mean? | 08:18 |
| marcoagpinto | or the duration of the video | 08:18 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: right mouse on the video/properties | 08:22 |
| marcoagpinto | lotuspsychje: wouldn't it be simpler to have a tab with resolution+duration? | 08:23 |
| marcoagpinto | right-clicking in the folder tab should allow to select it | 08:23 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: you could check around with dconf-editor on nautilus perhaps | 08:24 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: and if you dont find any tweak, you can always propose a wichlist !bug | 08:24 |
| lotuspsychje | *wishlist | 08:24 |
| marcoagpinto | Buaaaaaaaaa | 08:25 |
| marcoagpinto | what is the bugzilla platform url? | 08:25 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 08:25 |
| marcoagpinto | https://launchpad.net | 08:25 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: bugs on ubuntu, always create with ubuntu-bug packagename | 08:25 |
| marcoagpinto | found it | 08:26 |
| marcoagpinto | lotuspsychje: could you tell me in which part of launchpad should I create the ticket? | 08:27 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 08:27 |
| marcoagpinto | sorry for bothering you | 08:27 |
| lotuspsychje | scroll back to what i just said | 08:27 |
| marcoagpinto | wishlist? | 08:28 |
| lotuspsychje | no | 08:28 |
| lotuspsychje | from a terminal: ubuntu-bug packagename | 08:28 |
| marcoagpinto | but I am already in the site logged in | 08:28 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 08:28 |
| lotuspsychje | in your case ubuntu-bug nautilus if you want a wishlist for nautilus | 08:28 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: when you use ubuntu-bug, relevant (system)info will add into your bug wich the devs will need, if you file it directly from launchpad, that info will be missing | 08:30 |
| marcoagpinto | Buaaaaaaaa | 08:31 |
| marcoagpinto | I want to file the wishlist using launchpad... but it is so hard to use | 08:31 |
| lotuspsychje | please dont | 08:31 |
| marcoagpinto | then: terminal -> ubuntu-bug nautilus ? | 08:32 |
| lotuspsychje | if nautilus is the package you want a wish for yes | 08:33 |
| marcoagpinto | let me try | 08:33 |
| marcoagpinto | "send problem report to developers"? | 08:34 |
| marcoagpinto | it allows a yes or no | 08:34 |
| marcoagpinto | but, where can I write the wishlist? | 08:34 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: first you need to proceed with the normal bug procedure, after that you can ask an admin/dev to convert it to a wishlist | 08:35 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: after choosing yes, browser will jump open to add a bug title + description | 08:37 |
| marcoagpinto | yes, I am already there | 08:38 |
| marcoagpinto | lotuspsychje: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1860899 | 08:39 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1860899 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Add extra information to tabs in folders" [Undecided,New] | 08:39 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 08:39 |
| marcoagpinto | are you an administrator? | 08:39 |
| marcoagpinto | :p | 08:39 |
| lotuspsychje | marcoagpinto: in a few hours, please ping hggdh and ask gently if he wants to convert your bug to a wish | 08:40 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhh | 08:40 |
| marcoagpinto | oki | 08:40 |
| marcoagpinto | thanks | 08:40 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 08:40 |
| lotuspsychje | !19.04 is <reply> Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) is the 30th release of Ubuntu, supported ended January 2020. see !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-January/005263.html | 09:20 |
| lotuspsychje | !19.04 is <reply> Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) was the 30th release of Ubuntu, supported ended January 2020. see !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-January/005263.html | 09:28 |
| guiverc2 | sorry lotuspsychje , nah. Kubuntu uses ubiquity with a 'kde_ui' skin that looks like calamares... (i disappeared out for dinner, somewhere someone was asking kubuntu support question sending me pic of screen; I was wondering if kde neon that uses calamares.. it was legit though..) | 11:27 |
| guiverc2 | thanks for reply lotuspsychje :) | 11:27 |
| lotuspsychje | guiverc2: aha, no kde experiences myself here, maybe blueskaj or RikMills might know that | 11:54 |
| guiverc2 | no need; I don't remember whatever it was, but it was legit & I gave whatever I could.. | 11:56 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 11:56 |
| marcoagpinto | [08:40] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: in a few hours, please ping hggdh and ask gently if he wants to convert your bug to a wish | 12:48 |
| marcoagpinto | hggdh: Ping? | 12:48 |
| marcoagpinto | [12:48] <marcoagpinto> hggdh: Ping? | 12:48 |
| marcoagpinto | guys?! Is "Kingston" a good brand for MicroSD Cards for mobile phones? | 13:38 |
| marcoagpinto | The Pakistani didn't have SanDisk | 13:38 |
| marcoagpinto | :( | 13:38 |
| SwedeMike | marcoagpinto: yes. | 13:39 |
| SwedeMike | it's a well known brand | 13:39 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhhhh | 13:39 |
| marcoagpinto | thanks | 13:39 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 13:39 |
| marcoagpinto | I ordered a Sandisk and two readers USB from Amazon UK but they lost my package and returned the $$$ | 13:40 |
| marcoagpinto | so, I had to ask dad to buy it here in Portugal | 13:40 |
| marcoagpinto | but the store across the street doesn't have SanDisk | 13:40 |
| pizzaiolo | o/ | 14:31 |
| marcoagpinto | hey hey | 14:31 |
| marcoagpinto | pizzaiolo! | 14:31 |
| marcoagpinto | >:) <- cola demon | 14:31 |
| daftykins | as long as they're not fakes | 15:17 |
| marcoagpinto | what?! | 15:18 |
| marcoagpinto | that is what I told dad | 15:18 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:18 |
| marcoagpinto | "the pakistani stores probably sell fakes" | 15:18 |
| marcoagpinto | :( | 15:18 |
| marcoagpinto | daftykins: How do I know it is real? | 15:18 |
| daftykins | please stop referring to shop staff by race, it's really not pleasant | 15:19 |
| daftykins | or nationality rather | 15:19 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhh | 15:19 |
| marcoagpinto | oki | 15:19 |
| marcoagpinto | sorry | 15:19 |
| marcoagpinto | how do you call chinese stores? | 15:20 |
| daftykins | ... | 15:20 |
| marcoagpinto | daftykins: The problem is that in Portugal we are loaded with Chinese and Pakistani stores... so, one says: "I am going to the Chinese to buy blah blah" | 15:21 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:21 |
| daftykins | i would hope that's not common practice | 15:23 |
| marcoagpinto | it is common practice | 15:23 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:23 |
| marcoagpinto | at least here | 15:23 |
| marcoagpinto | Even in Portuguese Mozambique where I was born there was Chinese stores :) | 15:24 |
| marcoagpinto | back in the 1970s and earlier | 15:25 |
| daftykins | what i mean is i doubt everyone else goes around referring to them as such | 15:25 |
| marcoagpinto | in Portugal it is common practice | 15:25 |
| marcoagpinto | :p | 15:25 |
| marcoagpinto | daftykins: How do I tell if the SD Card is real? | 15:27 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:27 |
| daftykins | look it up | 15:28 |
| marcoagpinto | how? | 15:28 |
| marcoagpinto | it is inside a box just like the ones in the supermarket | 15:29 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:29 |
| marcoagpinto | a case with lines to cut with scissors | 15:29 |
| daftykins | rumour has it there's a free resource of interconnected computers that allows you to look things up | 15:32 |
| marcoagpinto | what? | 15:33 |
| tomreyn | lapion: i probably don't know more than you do, canonical is pushing more and more for snaps overall. | 17:26 |
| lapion | But don't snaps use extra ram to just merge the snap fs into the regluar fs ? | 17:27 |
| tomreyn | lapion: it feels to me (and others) that there is an intention to replace deb in the medium / long term | 17:27 |
| tomreyn | no, i don't think so | 17:27 |
| tomreyn | but for technical details you'd better askin #snapcraft probably since most people aroun dhere don't want to support snaps | 17:27 |
| lapion | Don't snaps incur a performance penalty | 17:28 |
| tomreyn | i have no benchmarks | 17:28 |
| oerheks | my bet is that they gain performance | 17:33 |
| oerheks | performance, security ( confinement), updates independent from apt | 17:34 |
| daftykins | they'd only be more secure if the developer/'snapper' is regularly keeping all components inside current | 17:37 |
| lapion | They will surely use more ram and the system has to go through 2 layers of filesystems.. | 17:38 |
| lapion | And a snap will use more storage space | 17:38 |
| daftykins | don't get me wrong i despise them and always purge snapd, but those are very weak arguments | 17:40 |
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| oerheks | what is the difference, a few kb? | 17:41 |
| oerheks | try to roll back an apt package .. or remove a dependency. snap will work. | 17:44 |
| === angik1 is now known as angik | ||
| JanC | the difference between an application in a snap/flatpak vs. one installed with APT is more like several 100s of MBs usually | 19:43 |
| marcoagpinto | "dream on, dream on, dream on until your dreams come true" >:) | 22:36 |
| jeremy31 | You don't always get what you want, if you try real hard you might get what you need | 22:44 |
| oerheks | if you need it, it will on your path. you certainly do not need all that comes on your path. | 22:47 |
| oerheks | c/ will be | 22:47 |
| marcoagpinto | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_kqUxPAGYI <- "Dream on" | 23:00 |
| marcoagpinto | a Dio song, very good | 23:00 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhh... one hour for my birthday | 23:01 |
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