[08:42] <DarkTrick> "Alt+Scroll wheel" for  screen zoom triggers a scrolling within mousepad. Is this a system problem or a mousepad bug?
[08:46] <well_laid_lawn> DarkTrick:  if the cursor is in the mousepad window it will have focus so it'll scroll
[08:54] <DarkTrick> well_laid_lawn, you say "it will scroll". Do you mean "it is expected to scroll" ?
[08:56] <well_laid_lawn> if mouusepad has focus with the cursor in it then yes
[08:57] <well_laid_lawn> try making sure the mouse cursor is sitting on the wallpaper not in a window
[08:59] <DarkTrick> hm
[09:00] <DarkTrick> well_laid_lawn, that would in return mean, that firefox, xfce4-terminal, hexchat and a couple of other apps have a buggy behavior
[09:01] <DarkTrick> well_laid_lawn, that being said, I'd say it's much more "natural" if no scrolling would accur...
[09:01] <DarkTrick> well_laid_lawn, other system shortcuts also prevent applications to fire their event. Why should alt+mousewheel be any different?
[10:36] <__raven__> update to 19.10 disabled multi monitor mode using two monitors on nvidia and additional two on internal intel915 onboard.c how to expand nvidia view to the internal graphics card again?
[15:40] <unlimiter> How can I make numlock activate on lightdm start?
[15:45] <diogenes_> unlimiter, http://dpaste.com/1R2MAE7
[15:46] <diogenes_> check that out ^^^^
[15:49] <Noboru55> diogenes_ hello, the xubuntu install by default xubuntu-core, do u know the difference between the core and xubuntu-desktop?
[15:50] <Noboru55> i was thinking about xubuntu-restricted-extras too. i can play mp3 and i install fonts with other package.. so.. is it really necessary?
[15:51] <diogenes_> Noboru55, don't go around installing things you don't need at the moment.
[15:51] <Noboru55> i wont ^^
[16:00] <unlimiter> diogenes_, it worked just fine. Thanks
[18:03] <pikapika> Does the default login screen start after xorg is "ready" or before?
[18:49] <raven-14> Hi. I'm having a pretty annoying issue with Eoan Ermine.  Is this the right place for seeking help?
[18:54] <gnrp> raven-14: When it is Xubuntu, yes. Just ask your question and if somebody knows the answer, he will tell
[18:54] <gnrp> but stay w while a roun
[18:54] <gnrp> d
[18:55] <raven-14> Sweet thanks!
[18:59] <raven-14> Installed a xubuntu 19.10 in dual-boot (other is Win10), and simply, after booting once into it, it won't go lemme log in again. As in, after entering my logins, it displays a black screen with a tiny blue square on the top-left. Trying to access console mode from log screen freezes everything. dpkg doesn't see anything wrong
[19:00] <diogenes_> raven-14, installed nvidia?
[19:00] <raven-14> uh, absolutely not.
[19:00] <raven-14> Dangit
[19:01] <diogenes_> raven-14, so after the installation it worked ok?
[19:02] <raven-14> Had to change "quiet splash" to "nomodeset" for the install, but, completely forgot about it afterwards. You're right, it's prolly driver issues
[19:03] <diogenes_> yeah
[19:07] <raven-14> Thanks for the help. Gonna try grabbing the right drivers
[19:08] <diogenes_> no problems, come with a feedback on how it went.
[19:12] <FredK> Just booted xubuntu from a usb stick.  The xfce terminal is not working and I am lost without it.  When started it says Fariled to execute child process (No such file or directory)
[19:12] <pikapika> At what point are services started when booting and how do you best disable automatic startup for some selected services?
[19:14] <FredK> If that comment was intended for me, things are started as specified from how the USB stick set things up.  I'm starting the terminal from the application window.
[19:15] <pikapika> No, it's my own question directed to everyone present here. No relation with your issue FredK
[19:16] <diogenes_> pikapika, run: tree
[19:17] <diogenes_> and: systemd-analyze blame
[19:18] <diogenes_> to disable a servuce: sudo systemctl disable servucename && sudo systemctl stop sameservicename
[19:18] <pikapika> Thats what I did but
[19:18] <pikapika> Does 'disable' mean it would also not be started automatically next boot?
[19:19] <diogenes_> FredK, how did you write the usb?
[19:19] <FredK> I used unetbootin
[19:19] <raven-14> @diogenes_ Installed nvidia drivers v.435. Booted and logged. Thanks again
[19:20] <diogenes_> pikapika, yes but some stubborn services also need: sudo systemctl mask servicename
[19:20] <pikapika> Ok, thanks
[19:20] <diogenes_> raven-14, you're welcome.
[19:21] <diogenes_> FredK, try writing with etcher.
[19:21] <diogenes_> and check the checksum.
[19:21] <pikapika> ...etcher?
[19:22] <diogenes_> yes
[19:22] <pikapika> Just out of curiosity, could the checksum test done with a ...uh...simpler tool?
[19:22] <diogenes_> !checksum
[19:23] <pikapika> Oh okay
[19:23] <pikapika> Just a matter of checksumming the iso file right?
[19:23] <pikapika> I thought you were speaking of some test performed post copying the image to usb
[19:25] <diogenes_> first checksum and if all is well then write the iso to usb again but this time use etcher software.
[19:25] <pikapika> What tests does etcher provide if any after writing to USB?
[19:26] <diogenes_> pikapika, no tests it's just known to do the things better.
[19:29] <pikapika> diogenes_, personally I'd be extremely careful recommending electron anything (or anything that has come from the web background) unless there's no better option.
[19:29] <pikapika> Your views might be different but for example it was just a few years ago that the download sizes of say etcher would have been prohibitive to me
[19:31] <diogenes_> pikapika, a recommendation is an advice and it's up to you to either take it or not.
[19:33] <pikapika> diogenes_, if recommendation was so harmless, to take an extreme example, people won't have any issues with neonazi propaganda. I am just saying one must understand the consequences and "free advertizing" that are caused due to recommendation. Not forcing anything, just asking you to reflect on some things.
[19:58] <FredK> I'm back.  Computer crashed.  I have not way to make the download of etcher executable on this machine, and on another machine get "./etcher-v1.5.71:  line 7 syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'.  Perhaps there is something else could try?
[20:00] <diogenes_> FredK, then try gnome-disk-utility to write the iso.
[20:04] <FredK> Sorry some how left this page.  Still looking for bootable drive ideas, or a way to fix by xfce terminal.
 FredK, then try gnome-disk-utility to write the iso.
[20:05] <diogenes_> only if checksum is ok.
[21:05] <csanyipal> Hi,
[21:06] <csanyipal> I am using Xubutu current LTS.
[21:08] <csanyipal> It seems I removed accidentally a package which is responsible to proper display of Xfce4 Desktop Environment. Windows behaves strange.
[21:08] <csanyipal> How can I fix this issue?
[21:14] <krytarik> csanyipal: Just do "sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop"
[21:14] <csanyipal> krytarik: I am doing it now. Thanks!
[21:16] <csanyipal> Finished. I am going to re-login. Bye!
[21:34] <csanyipal> Hi again,
[21:38] <csanyipal> Still have strange behavior of some window, like the Software applications window, because eg if I scroll down the mouse wheel when over it"s window then the bottom of the window is "rise", or if I scroll with the wheel up then the top of the window descends.
[22:25] <csanyipal> Still asking for help here. As I said, I accidentally removed some packages for calibrating the display device. So now I can't see on some windows buttons, but only texts for those buttons. I reinstall xubuntu-desktop already. What else can I do to get back again a stable Xfce4 Desktop Environment?
[22:49] <csanyipal> I just did this: 'sudo apt install xfce4'. Maybe this helps me out.
[22:49] <csanyipal> Bye!