[06:39] What is the role of Juju in the age of Kubernetes? [06:58] livcd: Using Juju, one can deploy and scale Kubernetes itself. Such a deployment can then be used as a substrate by Juju to model and manage solutions on top of Kubernetes. [07:00] Deploying K8s with Juju: https://jaas.ai/canonical-kubernetes [07:05] It is also easy to play with Juju/K8s using microk8s. [07:24] hmmm [07:24] So Juju would be a platform to deploy the k8, then manage the apps that sit on K8 [07:42] livcd: Yes. [07:45] I need to watch some videos to understand this better [11:44] hi any ideas? cannot read "/var/lib/juju/agents/unit-xxx-2/state/uniter": invalid operation state: "relation-changed" hook has a remote unit but no application [11:45] can I manually rewrite the uniter? If yes what keyvalue should I add? [14:03] hi there, does anyone know what changed around cross model relations between juju 2.7.0 and 2.7.1 ? [14:04] I have a test which was passing and no longer is. [14:04] It looks like the cmr hook isn't firing but digging into it in a bit more detail now [14:07] gnuoy, there are CMR changes, but it should only be landing in 2.8 (develop), let me know if you find anything [14:09] stickupkid, is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2kJ75VJcmh/ normal ? [14:10] stickupkid, oh, sorry [14:12] All the CMR relations are in a 'terminated' state [14:49] stickupkid, I've raised https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1860992 [14:49] Bug #1860992: CMR relation goes into terminated state on deploy [15:07] gnuoy, I'll just have a quick look now to confirm [15:07] thanks [15:38] manadart, or anybody know when we updated lxd stuff... [15:38] I'm getting juju.provider.lxd failed to get instances from LXD: Get https://172.17.0.1:8443/1.0/containers?recursion=1: Unable to connect to: 172.17.0.1:8443 [15:38] the url is available to access [15:41] gnuoy, looks confirmed to me, I'll see why we're getting an error in remote application worker for keystone [15:42] stickupkid, great, thank you [15:43] gnuoy, is there any chance you can test with edge? [15:43] stickupkid, sure [15:44] I'll do it now and update the bug [15:44] gnuoy, fyi: that's the 2.8 release and thanks [16:18] stickupkid, 2.8 seems to have the issue too [17:10] gnuoy, if you need a work around for now, you can remove the saas from swift-sf and then consume the offer again. [17:10] stickupkid, ack, thanks === timClicks_ is now known as timClicks [21:24] some interesting threads in discourse have popped up over the last few days [21:25] https://discourse.jujucharms.com/