| guiverc | yep... in destroying my server, & needing to restore data I discovered I didn't have it safe "." files, so bazaar doesn't recognize my dir anymore :( I'll have to re-download I guess (I have my files anyway if I need to start again; which I don't expect to need) | 00:01 |
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| guiverc | sorry wxl; was busy writing lubu.support reply on forums; i'll endeavour to fix my bazaar issue tomorrow (unlikely to get to it today); whenever it suits you after that (ie. give me ~2 days from now) .. you can set time, or just ask I'll try & fit around you.. | 00:30 |
| wxl | guiverc: just hit me up and you've got everything set back up and maybe i can go over things with you as we go | 01:18 |
| wxl | launchpad is kind of a ridiculous interface for dealing with reviews, honestly | 01:18 |
| guiverc | ack | 01:18 |
| wxl | do if you DND to the desktop from the menu and copy the desktop file, it will be marked as untrusted. now technically it's a copy of a desktop entry from /usr/share/applications. both of them do not have metadata::trusted set, whch is equivalent to being untrusted. however, if you navigate to /usr/share/applications, everything's trusted. maybe a weird bug? | 02:42 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6554aa58c010: Add recent files button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6554aa58c010 | 05:28 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7eb5e036b999: Specify on the command line] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7eb5e036b999 | 05:30 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa37f39293497: Add note on print dialog window to loimpress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa37f39293497 | 05:45 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL91e94a4c712d: Add choosing which printer to use] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL91e94a4c712d | 05:47 | |
| kc2bez | wxl: I feel like that is probably intentional from upstream. | 11:35 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T148: Fix merges from MoM] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T148 | 15:00 | |
| lubot | <RikMills> https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-offering-changes-2020 | 16:29 |
| wxl | kc2bez: indeed you are correct | 16:42 |
| wxl | @RikMills doesn't seem like any of that's relevant to us eh? | 16:45 |
| lubot | <RikMills> If you are interested in the future of the toolkit you build your desktop on it might be | 16:54 |
| wxl | @RikMills perhaps i was saying more that it doesn't have any negative effect on us :) | 17:19 |
| lubot | <teward001> *stabs wxl and @tsimonq2* oyi need you guys to DO WORK | 17:45 |
| lubot | <UniversalSuperBox> > open-source users will receive patch-level releases of 5.15 until the next minor release will become available | 18:11 |
| lubot | <UniversalSuperBox> That's a negative effect | 18:11 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> wxl: maybe we should revert the qt5 vcl, see this bug when exporting to pdf https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125234 | 18:13 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T68: provide a solution for installing third-party/proprietary drivers] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T68#3052 | 18:44 | |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @lugito [<lugito> 3[ 13T148: Fix merges from MoM 3] 15The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) …], I didn't recieve a mail for this. Phab mails aren't working @teward001 ? | 19:46 |
| lubot | <teward001> @The_LoudSpeaker [I didn't recieve a mail for this. Phab mails aren't working @teward001 ?], related to T147 (infra/security). | 20:18 |
| lubot | <teward001> known issue | 20:18 |
| lubot | <teward001> not one that we are publicly explaining atm | 20:18 |
| lubot | <teward001> @The_LoudSpeaker [I didn't recieve a mail for this. Phab mails aren't working @teward001 ?], see PMs | 20:21 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | ow. Thanks wxl for merging that task. | 20:23 |
| lubot | <teward001> The_LoudSpeaker check your Telegram PMs. | 20:24 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T142: Deal with merges] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142#3054 | 20:47 | |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> what do I write in test plan for merge? | 21:11 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> where do I read about lintian warning? | 21:14 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> (s) | 21:14 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> `W: lxqt-about-l10n: package-relation-with-self breaks: lxqt-about-l10n (<< 0.14.0)` | 21:14 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://lintian.debian.org/index.html | 21:14 |
| wxl | @UniversalSuperBox is that bad though? | 21:14 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [https://lintian.debian.org/index.html], Thanks! | 21:14 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [W: lxqt-about-l10n: package-relation-with-self breaks: lxqt-about-l10n (<< 0.14. …], what does this mean? | 21:16 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl re:vcl sounds like the issue with with the renderer. how do we specify cairo? | 21:17 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | nvm: https://lintian.debian.org/tags/package-relation-with-self.html | 21:17 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl re:vcl sounds like the issue with with the renderer. how do we …], SAL_VCL_QT5_USE_CAIRO=true libreoffice | 21:17 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> but that didn't work well for me | 21:18 |
| wxl | why not? | 21:18 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> libreoffice was completely unusable | 21:19 |
| kc2bez | yes, unusable = not working well | 21:20 |
| wxl | hm | 21:20 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T142: Deal with merges] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142#3056 | 21:20 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> hm], it worked for me in the past (18.10 I think) SAL_VCL_QT5_USE_CAIRO=true SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=qt5 libreoffice | 21:26 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> yes, unusable = not working well], wxl: this happen to me https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=157467 | 21:33 |
| wxl | it seems to me that upstream is not aware it's problematic the way the original bug reads | 21:34 |
| lubot | <mttcastelli> Fun facts: if you install baobab in a Ubuntu lxqt environment, it will override pcmanFM-qt to open any removable devices from the rd element in the panel :( | 22:01 |
| wxl | what's the problem? that a disk analyzer opens all the disks? i'm not totally surprised. | 22:02 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T142: Deal with merges] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142#3065 | 22:14 | |
| The_LoudSpeaker | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s7s4hdVHf7/ | 22:15 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | getting this on a debuild -b --no-sign but builds fine with debuild -S -k[key] | 22:15 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T142: Deal with merges] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142#3070 | 22:16 | |
| wxl | so -b is binary -S is source | 22:16 |
| wxl | it's likely you would have problems with binaries that you wouldn't with source builds | 22:16 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | yeah. reading manual now. | 22:16 |
| lubot | <teward001> well that's also clearly explaining what the core issue is | 22:16 |
| lubot | <teward001> -b requires that you have lxqt-config and lxqt-config-l10n installed wherever you're calling the -b | 22:17 |
| lubot | <teward001> debuild is not smart enough to call apt to install the build depends | 22:17 |
| lubot | <teward001> so if you are doing a binary build first, pull all your Build Dependencies in first manually | 22:17 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | I did a apt build-dep | 22:17 |
| wxl | which, incidentially, is in the packaging tutorial XD | 22:17 |
| lubot | <teward001> that won't help you if the package isn't seeded. | 22:18 |
| lubot | <teward001> or available in your environment | 22:18 |
| lubot | <teward001> s/seeded/in your repos/ | 22:18 |
| lubot | <teward001> you'll have to do apt install for each of the listed build depends in the d/control file | 22:18 |
| lubot | <teward001> (shorthand for debian/control, I use d/ to indicate shorthand for debian/ in source packages) | 22:18 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | k. | 22:18 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | I remember doing it for something else | 22:19 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker sometimes in lxqt the version required of other lxqt component isn't well defined. | 22:19 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> you might have to build the other lxqt component before. | 22:20 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | I checked it with ubottu | 22:20 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | the versions are there | 22:20 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | atleast in focal. not in bionic | 22:20 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> fo example, pcmanfm-qt says in cmakelist that libfm-qt min vwesion is 0.14.1 which is the one we have in focal, but we had to build libfm-qt git before. | 22:22 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> pcmanfm-qt git version. | 22:22 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | wait @teward, manually installing all those in build-dep of a package and using apt build-dep is any different? | 22:24 |
| teward | how did you call apt build-dep? | 22:24 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | @hmollercl. oh I see. I will check if I need to build something | 22:24 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | @teward I did a "sudo apt build-dep lxqt-config" | 22:25 |
| teward | apt build-dep only works when you're pulling in the build deps for a package already in the repositories that your system uses tfor apt install and such | 22:25 |
| teward | that pulls in the build dependencies for lxqt-config but *not* lxqt-config as a build dependency | 22:25 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | oh not for all the extra ones | 22:25 |
| teward | for THAT you need `apt install ...` not `build-dep` | 22:25 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | I gotcha | 22:25 |
| teward | so if I do `apt build-dep python3.6` in a Bionic box it'll pull *all* the build dependencies for the python3.6 source package | 22:26 |
| teward | C++ | 22:26 |
| teward | libssl-dev | 22:26 |
| teward | etc. | 22:26 |
| teward | but *NOT* `python3.6` itself | 22:26 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | okay. doing it again. one sec | 22:26 |
| lubot | <teward001> i'm headed home - day's over for me. | 22:28 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | same story even after manually installing everything from control file. and also installing lxqt-config. | 22:37 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | ^ wxl | 22:40 |
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