[00:01] yep... in destroying my server, & needing to restore data I discovered I didn't have it safe "." files, so bazaar doesn't recognize my dir anymore :( I'll have to re-download I guess (I have my files anyway if I need to start again; which I don't expect to need) [00:30] sorry wxl; was busy writing lubu.support reply on forums; i'll endeavour to fix my bazaar issue tomorrow (unlikely to get to it today); whenever it suits you after that (ie. give me ~2 days from now) .. you can set time, or just ask I'll try & fit around you.. [01:18] guiverc: just hit me up and you've got everything set back up and maybe i can go over things with you as we go [01:18] launchpad is kind of a ridiculous interface for dealing with reviews, honestly [01:18] ack [02:42] do if you DND to the desktop from the menu and copy the desktop file, it will be marked as untrusted. now technically it's a copy of a desktop entry from /usr/share/applications. both of them do not have metadata::trusted set, whch is equivalent to being untrusted. however, if you navigate to /usr/share/applications, everything's trusted. maybe a weird bug? [05:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6554aa58c010: Add recent files button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6554aa58c010 [05:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7eb5e036b999: Specify on the command line] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7eb5e036b999 [05:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa37f39293497: Add note on print dialog window to loimpress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa37f39293497 [05:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL91e94a4c712d: Add choosing which printer to use] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL91e94a4c712d [11:35] wxl: I feel like that is probably intentional from upstream. [15:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T148: Fix merges from MoM] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T148 [16:29] https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-offering-changes-2020 [16:42] kc2bez: indeed you are correct [16:45] @RikMills doesn't seem like any of that's relevant to us eh? [16:54] If you are interested in the future of the toolkit you build your desktop on it might be [17:19] @RikMills perhaps i was saying more that it doesn't have any negative effect on us :) [17:45] *stabs wxl and @tsimonq2* oyi need you guys to DO WORK [18:11] > open-source users will receive patch-level releases of 5.15 until the next minor release will become available [18:11] That's a negative effect [18:13] wxl: maybe we should revert the qt5 vcl, see this bug when exporting to pdf https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125234 [18:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T68: provide a solution for installing third-party/proprietary drivers] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T68#3052 [19:46] @lugito [ 3[ 13T148: Fix merges from MoM 3] 15The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) …], I didn't recieve a mail for this. Phab mails aren't working @teward001 ? [20:18] @The_LoudSpeaker [I didn't recieve a mail for this. Phab mails aren't working @teward001 ?], related to T147 (infra/security). [20:18] known issue [20:18] not one that we are publicly explaining atm [20:21] @The_LoudSpeaker [I didn't recieve a mail for this. Phab mails aren't working @teward001 ?], see PMs [20:23] ow. Thanks wxl for merging that task. [20:24] The_LoudSpeaker check your Telegram PMs. [20:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T142: Deal with merges] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142#3054 [21:11] what do I write in test plan for merge? [21:14] where do I read about lintian warning? [21:14] (s) [21:14] `W: lxqt-about-l10n: package-relation-with-self breaks: lxqt-about-l10n (<< 0.14.0)` [21:14] https://lintian.debian.org/index.html [21:14] @UniversalSuperBox is that bad though? [21:14] @HMollerCl [https://lintian.debian.org/index.html], Thanks! [21:16] @The_LoudSpeaker [W: lxqt-about-l10n: package-relation-with-self breaks: lxqt-about-l10n (<< 0.14. …], what does this mean? [21:17] @HMollerCl re:vcl sounds like the issue with with the renderer. how do we specify cairo? [21:17] nvm: https://lintian.debian.org/tags/package-relation-with-self.html [21:17] @wxl [ @HMollerCl re:vcl sounds like the issue with with the renderer. how do we …], SAL_VCL_QT5_USE_CAIRO=true libreoffice [21:18] but that didn't work well for me [21:18] why not? [21:19] libreoffice was completely unusable [21:20] yes, unusable = not working well [21:20] hm [21:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T142: Deal with merges] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142#3056 [21:26] @wxl [ hm], it worked for me in the past (18.10 I think) SAL_VCL_QT5_USE_CAIRO=true SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=qt5 libreoffice [21:33] @kc2bez [ yes, unusable = not working well], wxl: this happen to me https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=157467 [21:34] it seems to me that upstream is not aware it's problematic the way the original bug reads [22:01] Fun facts: if you install baobab in a Ubuntu lxqt environment, it will override pcmanFM-qt to open any removable devices from the rd element in the panel :( [22:02] what's the problem? that a disk analyzer opens all the disks? i'm not totally surprised. [22:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T142: Deal with merges] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142#3065 [22:15] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s7s4hdVHf7/ [22:15] getting this on a debuild -b --no-sign but builds fine with debuild -S -k[key] [22:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T142: Deal with merges] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T142#3070 [22:16] so -b is binary -S is source [22:16] it's likely you would have problems with binaries that you wouldn't with source builds [22:16] yeah. reading manual now. [22:16] well that's also clearly explaining what the core issue is [22:17] -b requires that you have lxqt-config and lxqt-config-l10n installed wherever you're calling the -b [22:17] debuild is not smart enough to call apt to install the build depends [22:17] so if you are doing a binary build first, pull all your Build Dependencies in first manually [22:17] I did a apt build-dep [22:17] which, incidentially, is in the packaging tutorial XD [22:18] that won't help you if the package isn't seeded. [22:18] or available in your environment [22:18] s/seeded/in your repos/ [22:18] you'll have to do apt install for each of the listed build depends in the d/control file [22:18] (shorthand for debian/control, I use d/ to indicate shorthand for debian/ in source packages) [22:18] k. [22:19] I remember doing it for something else [22:19] @The_LoudSpeaker sometimes in lxqt the version required of other lxqt component isn't well defined. [22:20] you might have to build the other lxqt component before. [22:20] I checked it with ubottu [22:20] the versions are there [22:20] atleast in focal. not in bionic [22:22] fo example, pcmanfm-qt says in cmakelist that libfm-qt min vwesion is 0.14.1 which is the one we have in focal, but we had to build libfm-qt git before. [22:22] pcmanfm-qt git version. [22:24] wait @teward, manually installing all those in build-dep of a package and using apt build-dep is any different? [22:24] how did you call apt build-dep? [22:24] @hmollercl. oh I see. I will check if I need to build something [22:25] @teward I did a "sudo apt build-dep lxqt-config" [22:25] apt build-dep only works when you're pulling in the build deps for a package already in the repositories that your system uses tfor apt install and such [22:25] that pulls in the build dependencies for lxqt-config but *not* lxqt-config as a build dependency [22:25] oh not for all the extra ones [22:25] for THAT you need `apt install ...` not `build-dep` [22:25] I gotcha [22:26] so if I do `apt build-dep python3.6` in a Bionic box it'll pull *all* the build dependencies for the python3.6 source package [22:26] C++ [22:26] libssl-dev [22:26] etc. [22:26] but *NOT* `python3.6` itself [22:26] okay. doing it again. one sec [22:28] i'm headed home - day's over for me. [22:37] same story even after manually installing everything from control file. and also installing lxqt-config. [22:40] ^ wxl