[20:19] Eickmeyer[m]: from the responce we got from Sammy, It is obvious that 19.10 is already running things from /etc/xdg/autostart/ as on the fly systemd units. (systemd does not deal with redirection at all < << >> > | &) [20:20] So there was no logfile for him to find. [20:22] still I find it odd that the jackdbus logfile shows "setting parameter 'drivers':'alsa':'period' to value "1024"" and then when started shows: "configuring for 48000Hz, period = 16 frames (0.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods" [20:23] The best most HDA devices (bultin) is 128/2 (maybe 64/3?) [20:25] the best any USB device can do is 32/3 (maybe 32/2 with xruns) as USB is limited to 1 ms apart transfers. [20:28] Eickmeyer[m]: I am in the middle of redoing logging for autjack to not use external redirection. [20:29] Eickmeyer[m]: this is a part of making autojack work properly from systemd :P [20:31] autojack still keeps running after session end and I am thinking that I need two systemd units to make this work right. One to start and one to stop. I think I need the one to stop anyway for the case that autojack is started by -controls. [20:33] Eickmeyer[m]: I am interducing log levels... right now it is hard set to "debug" with lots of output. but I think standard will be warn or info. [20:33] Eickmeyer[m]: debug level will be on the system tab. [20:34] (when I get that far) [20:35] After that I need to make tablet at least do as much as the GUI shows. :) [20:36] After that... (maybe part way through) I will change the GUI to have reasonable period depending on the device selected. [20:38] (32 for USB, 64 for internal MB audio, 16 for all else... with a warning) [21:40] OvenWerks: Ack. [21:41] OvenWerks: (was driving) [21:44] OvenWerks: Might be a good thing to make a note that buffers/period should be set to 3 for USB devices, just to alleviate confusion. [21:47] Eickmeyer[m]: once the buffer is above 32, 2 seems to work ok. [21:47] * OvenWerks has had no problems with usb devices at 64/2 [21:48] That would be an edge case then. I honestly wouldn't trust it. [21:50] OvenWerks: You once told me a name you had in mind for -controls if it were ported to other distros, but I forgot what that was. [21:53] prolly just audio-controls.... but it is starting to move beyond that. [21:54] However, If I was to break it off as a separate package, I might remove the tablet stuff and make a separate package too. [21:54] I could also just call the whole thing autojack. [21:54] because it is more about jack than just audio. [21:57] OvenWerks: Check PMs.