 The_LoudSpeaker: that's usually because binary builds are weird.  Stupid question but you're developing on a Focal machine where you are running `debuild -b` yes?
[01:02] <kc2bez> wxl: I am looking for some guidance re P59 That is not an error I remember
[01:02] <kc2bez> I have looked through the manual and it seems like what is there should be valid
[01:02] <wxl> whichn?
[01:03] <kc2bez> Inconsistent Maintainer
[01:03] <kc2bez> in https://phab.lubuntu.me/P59
[01:04] <wxl> DEBEMAIL?
[01:04] <kc2bez> It picked up on my DEBEMAIL
[01:04] <kc2bez> But I am not Lubuntu Developers
[01:04] <kc2bez> Except that I am 
[01:05] <wxl> maybe unset it?
[01:05] <wxl> i'm at a loss
[01:05] <wxl> whatcha trying to do here?
[01:05] <kc2bez> Well I built the package with sbuild and it did a lintian run
[01:06] <kc2bez> Which threw a new error I have never got before
[01:06] <wxl> hm
[01:06] <wxl> i don't sbuild so.......
 "This sometimes happens when environmental variables like DEBEMAIL are set to different values when building sources and changes separately. Please use the same maintainer everywhere."
 https://lintian.debian.org/tags/inconsistent-maintainer.html
 Maintainer and your DEBEMAIL need to match
[01:06] <wxl> wow
[01:07] <wxl> thanks mr. obvious :)
 there's some chaos with how it works
 BUT
[01:07] <kc2bez> There is this though https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-binary.html#s-maintainer
[01:07] <wxl> i don't get the error with debuild and such
[01:07] <wxl> BUT
[01:08] <wxl> Use of uninitialized value $ENV{"DEBEMAIL"} in pattern match (m//) at /usr/bin/debuild line 1069.
 ^ there you go, you need to set DEBEMAIL xD
[01:08] <kc2bez> specifically "If the maintainer of the package is a team of people with a shared email address, the Uploaders control field must be present and must contain at least one human with their personal email address."
 it should then not error
[01:09] <kc2bez> Which insinuates that a shared email should be acceptable
 might I ask which source you're building?  Just curious so I can run an sbuild in case you uneed me to :)
 it is, but *you* need to set DEBEMAIL in your environment
 see what wxl just said
[01:09] <wxl> hm
[01:09] <wxl> maybe the issue is the packaging tutorial says DEBMAIL not DEBEMAIL
[01:10] <kc2bez> oooo
[01:10] <kc2bez> $DEBMAIL = me
[01:10] <kc2bez> not $DEBEMAIL
[01:11] <wxl> that fixes
[01:11] <kc2bez> let me try again
[01:25] <kc2bez> ok so I must be missing something else $DEBEMAIL is right but I am still getting the same error.
[01:26] <kc2bez> @teward001 I was building calamares-settings-ubuntu to answer your earlier question.
[01:30] <wxl> did you export it?
[01:30] <kc2bez> Yes. echo $DEBEMAIL returns my email address
 you need to export it in your session :)
 kc2bez: code on Phab?
[01:31] <kc2bez> I started a new session after I changed it
[01:31] <kc2bez> Yes @teward001
 *sbuilds the thing locally*
 ... wow pkgstripfiles took an eternity
 It usually does
[01:35] <kc2bez> You should do artwork XD
 ah OK I see what this is doing
 so it's complaining that Maintainer is LUbuntu Developers but your changes is signed by yourself
 same as for me
 let me... test... something...
 @teward001 [so it's complaining that Maintainer is LUbuntu Developers but your changes is si …], Yeah don't worry about that
 *glares at this error for a while*
 It's a local error only
 @tsimonq2 [Yeah don't worry about that], tell that to kc2bez :P
 Only with sbuild
 Just ignore it
[01:36] <kc2bez> ok, I just don't remember seeing that before
 Now if you REALLY wanna make it go away, there's an arg you can pass to sbuild
 @tsimonq2 [Just ignore it], tell that to kc2bez :)
 Yeah
 @tsimonq2 ... or we can be anal and try and get a lintian localpatch to ignroe this when Lubuntu Developers is in the maintainer line in source :P
 there's SOMETHING in there for Ubuntu Developers too but IDK where
 and CBA to dig deeper
 (because of `update-maintainer` settingi Ubuntu Developers as the maintainer)
 *noms ice cream*
[01:39] <kc2bez> Thanks @tsimonq2 for dropping by.
 @teward001 [there's SOMETHING in there for Ubuntu Developers too but IDK where], No there isn't
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Thanks @tsimonq2 for dropping by.], I thought I saw ABI BREAK but I guess I was mistaken XD
[01:40] <kc2bez> It was close with "lintian error"
[01:41] <kc2bez> XD
[01:41] <wxl> exit
[01:41] <wxl> oop
[01:41] <kc2bez> no stay
[01:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL43b79ccbe7c6: add finish button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL43b79ccbe7c6
 @wxl [<wxl> Use of uninitialized value $ENV{"DEBEMAIL"} in pattern match (m//) at /usr …], I too got this last night. But all was good.
 @teward001 [The_LoudSpeaker: that's usually because binary builds are weird.  Stupid questio …], Yes.
 what is "now" … apt list --upgradable -a … Listando... Hecho … libqpdf26/focal 9.1.1-1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 9.1.0-1] … libqpdf26/now 9.1.0-1 amd64 [instalado, actualizable a: 9.1.1-1]
 why "now" instead of "focal" ?
 Still studying. I don't get the propose pocket, I don't remember using it
 @HMollerCl [why "now" instead of "focal" ?], Version installed?
 @HMollerCl [Still studying. I don't get the propose pocket, I don't remember using it], When you upload a source package, it publishes in the proposed pocket if it's not NEW. It then builds binaries for every architecture but doesn't publish binaries if there are any NEW binaries (that's the two NEW queues). Once it goes through 
 proposed is a partial pocket
[19:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T143: Enable i386 architecture] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T143#3072
[19:42] <wxl> yes but new =! now
[19:43] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker are these merges the syncs of phab from the archive or are these actually to resolve the MoM failures that will then be uploaded?
 @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker are these merges the syncs of phab from the archive or ar …], The ones that fix the merge and then will be uploaded.
[20:12] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker is there a reason you don't trust yourself to do it?
 I can't assign myself as a reviewer.
[20:13] <wxl> yes but you can push to phab and upload
 I can?
[20:13] <wxl> uh duh you're a developer :)
 Directly arc land?
 @wxl [<wxl> uh duh you're a developer :)], So directly arc land?
[20:14] <wxl> yep
[20:14] <wxl> then upload
 Okay.
 But it does give a warning na? About not being approved.
[20:17] <wxl> right
[20:17] <wxl> you can go in and approve it :)
[20:17] <wxl> or just ignore it
 Sare. Will do.
 One more reason I put up a revision was to check if build environment was right. I moved it to my aws machine.
[20:25] <wxl> you should be able to evaluate that i imagine
 I think it is. Only thing left is bzr part. I will do it later if needed.
[20:27] <wxl> bzr???
 Bazaar
[20:27] <wxl> but no lxqt packages require that
 I know.
[20:28] <wxl> oh you mean on your new machine ok
 Btw how did they name it bazaar? In Hindi it means marketplace.
[20:30] <wxl> the cathedral and the bazaar
 ?
[20:30] <wxl> oh man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar
 Adding this to reading list.
 Gtg now. Have to wake up in 3 hours. Bye!
[20:32] <wxl> see yuh
 @tsimonq2 [Version installed?], focal
[21:19] <wxl> new cala
 yup
 reading through now
[21:20] <wxl> unpackfs weight sounds nice
[21:20] <wxl> nothing sounds breaking
[21:21] <wxl> i do notice there's a long startup to our cala.. maybe that noconfig=true option would help? seems like we have configs for everything but i dunno
 I think it might be the welcome or locale modules doing their thing.
[21:23] <wxl> yah
 wxl: how should I drop D28?
 D28?
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D28
[21:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Revision] add .desktop to /usr/share/Lubuntu/applications to change icons: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D28
 You can abandon it.
 how?
 I can edit, but haven't found abandon/delete/drop
 There should be an option in either the comment section or in the controls on the right.
 aaa, add action in coment section  "abandon revision"
 I am on my phone right now so I don't have a screenshot
 thanks, that helped
 Excellent!
[23:22] <wxl> lubuntu.rocks only $4.99 https://news.gandi.net/en/2020/01/six-domains-on-promotion-starting-today/?pk_campaign=ennewsletter-january2020&pk_kwd=donuts
 It really does. Should I up my donation so we can get it?
[23:25] <wxl> :)
 It isn't the domain I was hoping we could get.
[23:27] <wxl> .org is like $10.99
[23:28] <wxl> but taken
[23:29] <wxl> Registrant State/Province: Panama
[23:29] <wxl> strange
 indeed
[23:33] <wxl> ah, .org redirect
[23:33] <wxl> err .net
 of course
[23:34] <wxl> man i can't wait until 18.04 dies. it will be hilarious to see people getting dismayed by the website which is entirely lxde
[23:34] <wxl> i mean it will be sad for the users but hopefully will put the nail in that coffin
 turn the page, new chapter.
[23:36] <wxl> yup
[23:37] <wxl> oops https://github.com/lubuntu-dev/lubuntu.net/issues
[23:38] <wxl> we should direct people to file bugs there
 All lxde bugs anyway
[23:40] <wxl> i meant with their website but yeah that would be good too XD
 once it is out of support of course. :)
[23:41] <wxl> hey maybe he'll keep it going. that would be neat
[23:41] <wxl> i mean it wouldn't be lubuntu but
 Lubuntu-legacy...