| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:00 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 07:10 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:12 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 07:18 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 07:21 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu, salut didrocks | 07:23 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN | 07:27 |
| seb128 | gooood morning desktopers | 08:30 |
| duflu | Hi seb128 | 08:31 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how are you? | 08:31 |
| duflu | seb128, a bit tired. It's practically Monday. But going OK. How are you? | 08:32 |
| seb128 | duflu, I'm good, mostly recovered from travel now | 08:32 |
| seb128 | duflu, oh right, you had monday off. Did you have a nice long w.e? | 08:33 |
| didrocks | salut seb128, content que tu ais si vite récupéré | 08:33 |
| duflu | seb128, yes and no. Spent Sat preparing the house for family then Sun hosting family. Only one real day off yesterday | 08:33 |
| seb128 | didrocks, salut ! merci :) sans décallage horaire c'est plus facile! Toi ça va ? | 08:33 |
| didrocks | ça va :) | 08:34 |
| seb128 | cool | 08:34 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 08:34 |
| seb128 | duflu, right, at least the work week is shorter, friday is almost at the corner :) | 08:35 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, en forme ? had a better night/baby is better? | 08:36 |
| ricotz | good morning everyone | 08:46 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, the whole family is down with a strong cold, and baby has bronchitis, but we somehow managed to sleep a bit better than the past three nights, so relatively speaking, I'm good :) | 08:50 |
| oSoMoN | good morning ricotz | 08:50 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, urg, good luck! hope you all get better quickly | 08:50 |
| seb128 | hey ricotz, how are you? the vala upload is next on my list :) | 08:51 |
| duflu | Morning ricotz | 08:52 |
| ricotz | hey oSoMoN seb128 duflu didrocks | 09:06 |
| ricotz | seb128, thanks | 09:07 |
| didrocks | hey ricotz | 09:16 |
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| Fudge | bug #1767901 | 09:29 |
| ubot5 | bug 1767901 in espeakup (Ubuntu) "package espeakup 1:0.80-9 failed to install/upgrade: installed espeakup package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767901 | 09:29 |
| Fudge | any chance this can be resolved plz, installed espeakup package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1 | 09:29 |
| seb128 | Fudge, would be useful to include the actual error/log in the description | 09:31 |
| seb128 | Fudge, I guess that was fixed in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/396656911/espeakup_1%3A0.80-10_1%3A0.80-11.diff.gz | 09:33 |
| Fudge | http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4jZjck24nH/ | 09:34 |
| Fudge | is that the patch seb128 ? | 09:36 |
| seb128 | Fudge, yes, from your description it seems that the command would do the trick | 09:37 |
| Fudge | thank you, sorry though which command if you could point it out | 09:40 |
| seb128 | see http://launchpadlibrarian.net/396656911/espeakup_1%3A0.80-10_1%3A0.80-11.diff.gz | 09:41 |
| seb128 | -ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup -V ${VOICE} | 09:41 |
| seb128 | +ExecStart=sh -c 'modprobe speakup_soft && /usr/bin/espeakup -V ${VOICE}' | 09:41 |
| seb128 | Fudge, the systemd unit does the mobprobe in that updated version | 09:41 |
| ricotz_ | seb128, please do a "fake-sync" upload of vala to focal | 11:34 |
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| seb128 | ricotz, I don't know how to do those, I will just do an ~focal1 upload and will sync over when Debian NEW is cleared | 12:34 |
| ricotz | seb128, thanks | 12:40 |
| Wimpress | Afternoon desktoppers o/ | 12:56 |
| oSoMoN | good afternoon Wimpress | 13:03 |
| marcustomlinson | hey Wimpress | 13:05 |
| Wimpress | I'm going to catch up on a few tasks from last week's sprint this afternoon. | 13:08 |
| Wimpress | I'll be swapping the remainder of the week. | 13:09 |
| didrocks | good afternoon Wimpress | 13:37 |
| ricotz | seb128, here is a merge from debian of zeitgeist https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/zeitgeist/ | 13:58 |
| seb128 | ricotz, thx | 13:58 |
| diddledan | I think I found the smoking gun for #1776447 :-) it's upstream now | 14:08 |
| diddledan | no bot? that's https://bugs.launchpad.net/xorg-server/+bug/1776447 | 14:09 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1776447 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Indirect GLX (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1) causes opengl programms to crash" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:09 |
| diddledan | there she is! | 14:09 |
| seb128 | diddledan, there is a bot, it just expect a bug prefix when you list a bug number :) | 14:09 |
| diddledan | aha | 14:09 |
| seb128 | diddledan, good work bisecting the faulty commit! | 14:10 |
| diddledan | I should read up on the bots :-p | 14:10 |
| diddledan | took me forever to work out how to get a proper build running | 14:10 |
| diddledan | being that I'm on 20.04 atm and those commits are back in 2016 there were a few teething troubles :-) | 14:11 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers! | 14:29 |
| diddledan | morning :-) | 14:29 |
| seb128 | hey Heather! | 14:30 |
| didrocks | good morning hellsworth | 14:30 |
| seb128 | just on time for the meeting :) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-01-28 | 14:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jan 28 14:30:11 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 14:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 14:30 |
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| seb128 | Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (out), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 14:30 |
| didrocks | hey | 14:30 |
| jibel | hola | 14:30 |
| hellsworth | o/ | 14:30 |
| Trevinho | o/ | 14:31 |
| marcustomlinson | \o | 14:31 |
| diddledan | seeing as I'm here, I'll lurk interloper-style :-p | 14:31 |
| oSoMoN | 🤧/ | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | o/ | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | hey diddledan | 14:31 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 14:31 |
| seb128 | nice, let's got started | 14:31 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-bb-bugs | 14:31 |
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| seb128 | (proper order is back this week :p) | 14:32 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:32 |
| seb128 | no desktop entry | 14:32 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:33 |
| seb128 | only the nm ones we still didn't sort out | 14:33 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ee-bugs | 14:33 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:33 |
| seb128 | no desktop entry | 14:33 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:34 |
| seb128 | nm only | 14:34 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ff-bugs | 14:34 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:34 |
| seb128 | bug #1857815 | 14:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1857815 in cups-filters (Ubuntu) "cups-browsed assert failure: corrupted double-linked list" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1857815 | 14:34 |
| seb128 | that's assigned to tkamppeter | 14:34 |
| seb128 | I need to try if .27 maybe fixes it? | 14:34 |
| tkamppeter | Tried to reproduce on a clean FF VM, but I had 1.26.2 and all the reporter 1.26.0 or 1.26.1. | 14:35 |
| tkamppeter | Perhaps 1.26.2 already solved it and therefore I cannot reproduce it. | 14:36 |
| tkamppeter | None of 1.26.2 or 1.27.0 has an explicit fix, only some improvements in general stability against crashes. | 14:36 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, yeah, from the report it looks like .1 has it but .2 not | 14:36 |
| seb128 | so let's see if reports stop, I will try with the update and close if it is resolved | 14:37 |
| seb128 | thx tkamppeter | 14:37 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:37 |
| seb128 | n-m unassigned and that's it | 14:37 |
| seb128 | ok, easy for bugs today | 14:37 |
| hellsworth | champagne bugs? | 14:37 |
| seb128 | good point | 14:38 |
| seb128 | I'm currently unconvinced that we figured out the proper way to deal with that | 14:38 |
| seb128 | I looked at the list yesterday and it's mostly hardware enablement, server, linux issue | 14:38 |
| seb128 | I will skip for today and chat with Martin, we can talk about it again next week if that's ok for everyone? | 14:39 |
| hellsworth | it would be useful to filter out the desktop bugs, similar to rls-ff-tracking does | 14:39 |
| hellsworth | sounds good to me | 14:39 |
| seb128 | yes, but then I would suggest we just use the existing tag... | 14:39 |
| seb128 | but yeah, details to be figured out, I don't think we can resolve that here/today without Martin though | 14:40 |
| seb128 | next | 14:40 |
| oSoMoN | +1 to defer to next week | 14:40 |
| seb128 | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 14:40 |
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| seb128 | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 14:40 |
| seb128 | k, so that's a long/noisy list atm | 14:40 |
| seb128 | mostly d_oko piling transitions | 14:40 |
| seb128 | so I think we need to wait for things to settle down to have some visibily on real problems vs transition noise | 14:41 |
| seb128 | some real ones we could/should look though | 14:41 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, can you bump the priority to get mesa sorted out? we can't just let it sit there forever | 14:41 |
| seb128 | it needs someone (you probalby) to figure out what make software rendering buggy on s390x | 14:42 |
| seb128 | also some libsdl build issues on armhf/i386? | 14:42 |
| seb128 | 14:42 | |
| tjaalton | seb128: i've reproduced it on debian porterbox | 14:42 |
| tjaalton | next would be to try the same on git master | 14:42 |
| seb128 | good first step I guess? | 14:42 |
| seb128 | thx for looking at it! | 14:42 |
| tjaalton | so I'll push that to experimental | 14:42 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:43 |
| seb128 | network-manager I'm looking at that one | 14:43 |
| seb128 | the rest is python changes ongoing, tiff transition and new items that didn't settle down yet | 14:43 |
| seb128 | so I think that's it for now on that section | 14:44 |
| seb128 | #topic AOB | 14:44 |
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| seb128 | any other topic? | 14:44 |
| tkamppeter | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1838038 | 14:44 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1838038 in snapd "[snap] Snapped apps do not work with .local mdns/avahi name resolution" [Medium,Triaged] | 14:44 |
| tkamppeter | This bug is a big problem for snaps. | 14:44 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ | 14:44 |
| tkamppeter | In a snap .local host names are not resolved. | 14:44 |
| tkamppeter | Not only for LibreOffice but also for my CUPS snap. | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | there is a post about that on the forum | 14:45 |
| tkamppeter | See my comments at the end. | 14:45 |
| seb128 | thx tkamppeter | 14:45 |
| tkamppeter | https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/chromium-does-not-work-with-local-mdns-avahi-name-resolution | 14:45 |
| tkamppeter | This one. | 14:45 |
| seb128 | right | 14:46 |
| seb128 | thx tkamppeter for raising that one up | 14:46 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, might be worth a trello card if we belive it's important, so we don't loose it? | 14:47 |
| kenvandine | sounds like something that needs to happen on the host? | 14:47 |
| tkamppeter | s/LibreOffice/chromium/ | 14:47 |
| tkamppeter | Seems so, as a workaround is installing nscd or unscd on the host. | 14:48 |
| seb128 | we want a proper solution | 14:49 |
| tkamppeter | yes | 14:49 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, james suggested 'adjusting the network plug to grant access to /var/run/avahi-daemon/socket).' on the forum discussion | 14:49 |
| kenvandine | i saw that | 14:49 |
| seb128 | probably something to talk to jamie/the snap team about? | 14:49 |
| seb128 | anyway, not to resolve now | 14:49 |
| kenvandine | but there was also installing nscd on the host | 14:49 |
| seb128 | I feel like it's worth a card in the backlog maybe, but it's your trello board so your decision :) | 14:49 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 14:49 |
| kenvandine | i'll add it | 14:49 |
| seb128 | thx | 14:50 |
| seb128 | I don't think we are going to resolve it now so not much point to argue the details | 14:50 |
| seb128 | it's unclear to me if nss-mdns is enough or if nscd is needed | 14:50 |
| seb128 | maybe a topic to discuss in frankfurt | 14:51 |
| seb128 | anyway | 14:51 |
| seb128 | other topics? | 14:51 |
| seb128 | seems not, that's a wrap then, thanks everyone! | 14:52 |
| seb128 | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jan 28 14:52:03 2020 UTC. | 14:52 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-01-28-14.30.moin.txt | 14:52 |
| marcustomlinson | thanks | 14:52 |
| hellsworth | thanks seb128 ! | 14:52 |
| oSoMoN | thanks | 14:52 |
| didrocks | thanks | 14:54 |
| xnox | is Wimpress online? | 15:41 |
| xnox | seb128: no oem love? | 15:41 |
| seb128 | xnox, he and Laney are off, I recommend we just skip this one | 15:42 |
| xnox | seb128: well juliank, matt, and I had a mini-sync up | 15:52 |
| seb128 | xnox, if you let a summary here Laney might see it once he's back tomorrow :) | 15:52 |
| xnox | seb128: Laney: linux-oem-5.4 migrated yesterday; seeded it into main; which apw promoted; uploaded livecd-rootfs which attempts to use oem-20.04 flavour; and proposed a matching ubuntu-cdimage change which needs review & deploy by the cdimage team. | 15:54 |
| xnox | seb128: will the tomorrow sync with Taipei happen or is that cancelled too? | 15:54 |
| seb128 | xnox, Martin is off, China is still on new-year-off this week I think? but Laney will be back | 15:55 |
| seb128 | unsure how useful it is without Rex&co though | 15:56 |
| ricotz | seb128, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/vala-next/+packages?batch=200 -- like half the failures are python related | 16:20 |
| seb128 | k | 16:21 |
| ricotz | meaning it isn't that scary | 16:26 |
| hellsworth | i'm new to using ppas and notice that on the ppa help page (https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA) it says that before i can use a ppa, i need to first activate it but there's nothing obvious on my profile page about this. can anyone offer some guidance on how to activate a ppa? | 16:47 |
| tkamppeter | I have a problem with GNOME (or gdm) on my focal VM. | 16:59 |
| tkamppeter | I cannot log in, and even when stopping GM the system is spinning full steam. | 16:59 |
| tkamppeter | I mean GDM | 16:59 |
| tkamppeter | It is hammering the message | 17:00 |
| tkamppeter | message repeated 475 times: [ gnome-shell-x11.service: Stop job pending for unit, delaying automatic restart.] | 17:00 |
| tkamppeter | several 1000 times per second. | 17:00 |
| mdeslaur | FWIW, I'm having the same issue with an updated focal VM | 17:00 |
| hellsworth | tkamppeter: can you please file an issue | 17:01 |
| tkamppeter | mdeslaur, is there some workaround? | 17:01 |
| mdeslaur | tkamppeter: I switched to the vmvga graphics driver as a workaround | 17:01 |
| tkamppeter | hellsworth, what do you mean with issue? A bug on Launchpad? For which package? | 17:01 |
| mdeslaur | I'm not sure what the exact cause of the issue is | 17:02 |
| hellsworth | yes i meant a bug on launchpad. | 17:02 |
| hellsworth | i would file it for gnome-shell since that's what's mentioned in the repeated log message | 17:02 |
| hellsworth | i believe the bug can be moved to be under another package if necesary | 17:03 |
| hellsworth | but at least capture the info in launchpad (and maybe mdeslaur can add to it too) | 17:04 |
| tkamppeter | I have switched to VGA (fromQXL). There was no vmvga. | 17:09 |
| tkamppeter | Now it is still hammering but at another point, not being able to start X. | 17:10 |
| tkamppeter | here is the syslog: http://www.openprinting.org/download/tmp/syslog.bz2 | 17:12 |
| tkamppeter | Tryed also on my fresh fossa VM and it stays also hammering after switching to VGA, not able to start X. | 17:22 |
| tkamppeter | One question: Is this problem VM-only? Can I safely switch my real iron to Focal? | 17:23 |
| hellsworth | i have switched both my desktop and my laptop to focal and have not seen this issue | 17:23 |
| oSoMoN | hellsworth, not sure what this PPA activation thing is about, but it looks like you have successfully created one (https://launchpad.net/~hellsworth/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice), I'd say it's ready to take uploads | 17:23 |
| oSoMoN | ask on #launchpad if it doesn't work | 17:24 |
| hellsworth | thanks oSoMoN . apparently when you click create ppa, and then fillout the details, the bottom button is called Activate | 17:25 |
| hellsworth | so it is active | 17:25 |
| hellsworth | i think the problem is LP not knowing about my gpg key that signed the build files so trying to sort that out now | 17:25 |
| tkamppeter | mdeslaur, where (how) did you switch to the vmvga driver? | 17:26 |
| tkamppeter | mdeslaur, I use QEMU/KVM VMs, via Virtual Machine Manager/libvirt. | 17:27 |
| mdeslaur | tkamppeter: in virt-manager, go to the second tab of the VM (the blue 'i' icon), click on "Video QXL" on the left, choose "VMVGA" in the drop-down | 17:37 |
| tkamppeter | mdeslaur, did you answer anything in the mean time? I got a complete freeze. | 17:45 |
| mdeslaur | tkamppeter: that's all I did, and I got a desktop... | 17:46 |
| tkamppeter | mdeslaur, how are you using VMs? Which VM system are you using? | 17:47 |
| mdeslaur | I'm using vms in libvirt with virt-manager | 17:47 |
| mdeslaur | using qemu/kvm | 17:47 |
| tkamppeter | So the same platform as I use. | 17:49 |
| tkamppeter | mdeslaur, so where to you set "vmvga"? | 17:49 |
| mdeslaur | not sure what I'm doing that's different | 17:49 |
| mdeslaur | tkamppeter: under "Video QXL" on the left, I have a dropdown that has Cirrus/QXL/VGA/Virtio/VMVGA/Xen | 17:50 |
| mdeslaur | I choose VMVGA and hit apply | 17:50 |
| tkamppeter | I have only QXL, VGA, and Virtio there. | 17:51 |
| tkamppeter | Did you install any extra packages to get the others? | 17:51 |
| mdeslaur | I don't know why...what host are you on, bionic? | 17:51 |
| tkamppeter | Eoan | 17:51 |
| mdeslaur | oh, maybe they got removed | 17:51 |
| mdeslaur | I'm still on bionic (going to focal soon) | 17:51 |
| tkamppeter | I am going to real-iron focal right now, too. | 17:52 |
| diddledan | seb128, if you're still around, a commit for my Xorg bug has landed upstream \o/ https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/211 | 18:58 |
| gitbot | xorg issue 211 in xserver "LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 causes all opengl programms to crash on second frame" [Glx, Closed] | 18:58 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: congrats on figuring out your ppa issue :) | 19:39 |
| robert_ancell | hellsworth, do you know if it's possible to run GtkInspector inside a snap? | 20:04 |
| hellsworth | marcustomlinson: thank you thank you :) | 20:18 |
| hellsworth | robert_ancell: yes it is! | 20:19 |
| hellsworth | let me find an example | 20:19 |
| robert_ancell | hellsworth, via shift-ctrl-i ? | 20:19 |
| robert_ancell | Testing here with gnome-clocks on focal | 20:19 |
| hellsworth | oh wait. i'm thinking of introspection | 20:19 |
| hellsworth | so what happens when you try to open inspector with the clocks snap? | 20:20 |
| robert_ancell | Nothing happens. | 20:20 |
| hellsworth | hmm | 20:20 |
| hellsworth | i suppose GtkInspector would have to be packaged with the snap, as a separate app | 20:21 |
| hellsworth | since that's what it is | 20:21 |
| robert_ancell | I think it might be part of the GTK library, but I'm not sure. I don't know exactly how it works. | 20:22 |
| hellsworth | kenvandine: would it make sense to provide GtkInspector int he platform snap so apps can use it? | 20:22 |
| kenvandine | i don't know how it works | 20:23 |
| robert_ancell | The reason I'm on this path is I'm trying to work out why snap-store renders the header bar wrong on 16.04, and using GtkInspector would be really helpful here. | 20:23 |
| hellsworth | ok i'll take a quick look into it | 20:23 |
| tkamppeter | mdeslaur, hellsworth, my real iron is on Focal now, and all seems to work. | 20:24 |
| hellsworth | very interesting tkamppeter. i'm glad that solved your problem but that mean's there's maybe a hypervisor issue out there | 20:24 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: so shift-ctrl-i in a gtk app should open the inspector? | 20:24 |
| hellsworth | tkamppeter: did you file a launchpad bug? | 20:24 |
| hellsworth | https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/GTK/Inspector?action=show&redirect=Projects%2FGTK%2B%2FInspector | 20:24 |
| hellsworth | need to set a gsettings first | 20:25 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, yes, try a local deb and it works. | 20:25 |
| kenvandine | i just tried in gedit (deb) | 20:25 |
| kenvandine | nothing opened | 20:25 |
| robert_ancell | aha, I enabled it at some point. | 20:25 |
| kenvandine | ah | 20:25 |
| robert_ancell | GTK_DEBUG=interactive might work according to that page. | 20:25 |
| robert_ancell | Yay, that works! Thanks for doing my Google searching for me hellsworth :/ | 20:27 |
| hellsworth | haha no problem! i remembered that i had to do _something_ to get gtk inspector to work in the past but couldn't remember what.. | 20:27 |
| hellsworth | i'm glad it was as simple as that then! | 20:28 |
| robert_ancell | Sweet, and that confirms the problem is just some vexpand=true properties in the source combo. | 20:31 |
| kenvandine | schema org.gtk.Settings.Debug isn't in the snap | 20:34 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, i.e. it won't read from the schema any debug settings? | 20:35 |
| kenvandine | right | 20:35 |
| kenvandine | which is why the key binding doesn't work | 20:35 |
| kenvandine | if we include that in the platform snap, it might work | 20:36 |
| kenvandine | at least for apps that connect to the gsettings interface | 20:36 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: firmware updates work in the snap built from the snap-store-packagekit branch | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | almost done :) | 20:38 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, :) | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: i also added autostart as well | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | but submitted a PR for that to get a review | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | first time i've added autostart in a snap | 20:39 |
| hellsworth | kenvandine: if i were to add org.gtk.Settings.Debug, would that be a dbus slot? | 20:39 |
| kenvandine | no, we need to stage the schema | 20:40 |
| kenvandine | that's it | 20:40 |
| kenvandine | that's provided by the libgtk-3-dev package | 20:40 |
| kenvandine | not the runtime | 20:40 |
| kenvandine | so not installed by default even on a stock ubuntu system | 20:40 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: so probably not something we should include by default | 20:41 |
| kenvandine | especially if it work with an env variable | 20:41 |
| kenvandine | s/work/works | 20:41 |
| hellsworth | ok then we won't add it to the platform snap then | 20:42 |
| tkamppeter | hellsworth, not yet, but better to do so. | 20:44 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: so in gnome-software on ubuntu, the updates page is only firmware updates? | 20:49 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, yes. | 20:49 |
| kenvandine | that's crap :-D | 20:49 |
| kenvandine | sure snaps do not need an update UI | 20:49 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, well, actually on the current master it should show snaps that are updatable but being held back (patch from community member) | 20:50 |
| kenvandine | neat | 20:50 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, it's a mess, so we should revisit that and decide if it's still applicable. The main issue is the list is different than the software-properties one. | 20:50 |
| robert_ancell | But I haven't ever looked in great detail at it. | 20:50 |
| kenvandine | It's still confusing | 20:50 |
| kenvandine | i guess we didn't want to replace update-manager | 20:51 |
| hellsworth | is there a way i can see the build of something lp is building from my ppa? | 20:51 |
| kenvandine | yes | 20:51 |
| hellsworth | oh i found it | 20:52 |
| kenvandine | click on the arch | 20:52 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, which version of GTK would snap-store be using? | 20:52 |
| kenvandine | currently 3.22.30 | 20:54 |
| kenvandine | but if we update to the gnome-3-34 platform it would be 3.24 | 20:54 |
| kenvandine | and i would like to do that soon | 20:54 |
| hellsworth | on that , my plan is to get gtkmm in the build snap today/tomorrow and then start on the list of gnome apps to make use the 3-34 extension. after some of those build fine, then we have an argument to merge it | 20:55 |
| seb128 | diddledan, great, well done providing enought informations for that to happen :) | 20:55 |
| hellsworth | sorry, libreoffice took a while | 20:55 |
| hellsworth | also libreoffice will take more time this week :) | 20:55 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: cool | 20:55 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell, how are you? | 20:56 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, how long does snap-store tend to take to build? I've pushed the fix for the headerbar | 20:57 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, hi! | 20:57 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/644 can you make sure we don't end up with a new depends requirement when GNOME already provides a widget that does the job? | 20:57 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue (Merge request) 644 in gnome-control-center "wifi: Add HotSpot QR code support" [6. Component: Network & Wi-Fi, Opened] | 20:57 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: once it syncs | 20:57 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, yes, thanks for pointing that out! I also don't want a new depends, and pksadiq also wants to use the NM widget. So we should be able to resolve that one. | 20:58 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, ok good, nobody replied to my comment to ack/nack so I was just trying to make sure that doesn't get ignored :) | 20:58 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I just gave you a 👍 | 20:59 |
| seb128 | ah, I guess those don't reflect in emails | 20:59 |
| seb128 | I don't go open the webpage to pull for status updates | 20:59 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: snap is building now | 21:00 |
| robert_ancell | I read the comments via email but hadn't gone to the MR recently so I hadn't clicked the 👍 | 21:00 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, also while I'm still around, do you plan to move forward with gnome-desktop? maybe worth trying to ping the unity contributors to see if they have time to port their code | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: make sure you update the bug status for the alignment fix | 21:00 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, to fix released? | 21:00 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, ugh. No I just saw the problem and was hoping someone else would fix it... | 21:01 |
| robert_ancell | We can patch g-c-c to keep working on the old one for now. | 21:01 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: yes please | 21:01 |
| kenvandine | since the bug was against the edge channel | 21:01 |
| kenvandine | once the fix is in edge, mark it as fixed | 21:01 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, I was going to update it when I confirmed it worked. | 21:02 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I guess that's best as a first step | 21:02 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: perfect | 21:02 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, if you want to update g-c-c to 3.35 in focal feel free :) | 21:02 |
| seb128 | we are probably going to start working on updating other components in the next week or so | 21:02 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, do we just break from Debian now, and merge later if they update anything? | 21:02 |
| seb128 | either that or do the update on salsa and then rebase on top | 21:03 |
| robert_ancell | I still can't reliably import new versions into those git branches :/ | 21:03 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, have you seen this before? | 21:04 |
| robert_ancell | $ snap refresh snap-store | 21:04 |
| robert_ancell | error: local snap "snap-store" is unknown to the store, use --amend to proceed anyway | 21:04 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: yes | 21:05 |
| kenvandine | that means the version you have installed isn't from the store | 21:05 |
| kenvandine | so snap refresh --amend snap-store | 21:05 |
| kenvandine | will resolve it | 21:05 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I'm about to step away from the keyboard but if you have problems please email mail the details so we can resolve them | 21:06 |
| seb128 | gbp clone ... | 21:07 |
| seb128 | gbp import-orig <tarball> should work on most components | 21:07 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, only if you have the branches set up perfectly :) | 21:07 |
| diddledan | seb128, for a potential SRU, have I included enough information to tag the sponspors? https://bugs.launchpad.net/xorg-server/+bug/1776447 | 21:11 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1776447 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Indirect GLX (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1) causes opengl programms to crash" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:11 |
| diddledan | aah, I'm reading the SRU stuff - looks like I need to do a debdiff | 21:14 |
| diddledan | ok, debdiff added for focal | 21:29 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: built | 21:39 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, already tested :) | 21:39 |
| kenvandine | great | 21:39 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, you probably want to rebase the snap-store-packagekit branch on it | 21:39 |
| kenvandine | that's always a pain :) | 21:39 |
| kenvandine | but yes | 21:40 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: would you mind doing that? | 21:40 |
| robert_ancell | ok | 21:40 |
| kenvandine | i've pushed all my changes | 21:40 |
| kenvandine | i asked oSoMoN to review my autostart PR | 21:40 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: do we want to merge from upstream master? | 21:46 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, I think it's safer to stay on a stable release and cherry pick - is there anything from master we want? | 21:47 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: maybe your auth fix | 21:47 |
| kenvandine | and the show updatable snaps | 21:47 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, that will only work if we can fix the confinement | 21:48 |
| kenvandine | personal-files | 21:48 |
| kenvandine | should do it | 21:48 |
| kenvandine | ah, the updatable snaps was from ahayzen! | 21:49 |
| kenvandine | ahayzen: nice! | 21:49 |
| ahayzen | kenvandine, hehe :-) | 21:52 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, branches all updated | 22:18 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, no pressure, but is vala still on its way into focal? :) | 22:18 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, right, well updating is not easy, if you are scare from screwing up, do a fresh gbp clone, add the upstream remote and do the import-orig, that works pretty much without issue on any pkg-gnome component | 22:42 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I'm still interested to have records of situations where it went wrong/are confusing to see if we can make those less likely to happen somehow or easier to resolve | 22:43 |
| diddledan | LP: | 22:58 |
| diddledan | err | 22:58 |
| diddledan | LP: #1776447 now has debdiffs | 22:58 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1776447 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg's Indirect GLX broken from upstream regression" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1776447 | 22:58 |
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