[05:44] <tomreyn> dropheaders: things will be different startinng 20.04 LTS: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-20-04-lts-survey/13616 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/server-installer-plans-for-20-04-lts/13631
[05:45] <tomreyn> err not the survey link but this one https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/please-review-design-for-automated-server-installs/11923
[06:29] <dropheaders> oh nice
[06:29] <dropheaders> thank you
[07:14] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:40] <yildizabdullah> I use Ubuntu Server (18.04.3 LTS)
[10:40] <yildizabdullah> I cannot access gnome-terminal via VNC session
[10:41] <yildizabdullah> There is an error as "Error constructing proxy for org.gnome.Terminal:/org/gnome/Terminal/Factory0: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.Terminal: Timeout was reached"
[10:41] <yildizabdullah> in VNC log file
[10:41] <yildizabdullah> My VNC xstartup file includes
[10:41] <yildizabdullah> gnome-panel &gnome-settings-daemon &metacity &nautilus &
[10:42] <yildizabdullah> sorry
[10:42] <yildizabdullah> gnome-panel &
[10:42] <yildizabdullah> gnome-settings-daemon &
[10:42] <yildizabdullah> metacity &
[10:42] <yildizabdullah> nautilus &
[10:42] <yildizabdullah> I also get the following error when I start my VNC session
[10:43] <yildizabdullah> gnome-settings-daemon: command not found
[10:43] <yildizabdullah> I've already installed gnome-settings-daemon
[10:43] <yildizabdullah> How can I fix this?
[10:43] <weedmic> yildizabdullah: is the server setup to:  allow vnc connections, does the connector have an account on the server, does the server have gnome installed, there are a lot of possible problems.  can you connect with the same user via ssh?  if yes, that would narrow some things down.
[10:44] <yildizabdullah> It was working yesterday
[10:44] <yildizabdullah> Yes, I can connect to the machine via SSH
[10:46] <weedmic> same user via ssh, but not vnc?  and it worked same user yesterday?  sounds like you may need to restart the VNC daemon on the server - but this is untrue if others can use VNC, then it sounds like an rights issue.
[10:46] <yildizabdullah> I can open a VNC session, see my Desktop and access the filesystem from file explorer menu
[10:47] <yildizabdullah> How can I post my log file here?
[10:47] <yildizabdullah> Is there an easy way
[10:47] <weedmic> so you see a "terminal" when you connect, if yes, did you try "startx" to get the desktop environment to start
[10:48] <yildizabdullah> No,
[10:48] <yildizabdullah> there is no terminal menu
[10:48] <weedmic> then what did you mean by "my Desktop and access the filesystem" "Desktop"?
[10:49] <yildizabdullah> sorry for misunderstanding
[10:49] <yildizabdullah> I can see my Desktop
[10:49] <yildizabdullah> and open emacs, gvim, etc.
[10:49] <weedmic> what do you mean by "Desktop"?
[10:50] <yildizabdullah> I see a toolbar at the top of the screen which only shows Applications and Places
[10:50] <weedmic> do you mean that you do reach the server and gnome is working and that is what you mean by "desktop" - that you see gnome?
[10:50] <yildizabdullah> I only see these two menu items
[10:51] <weedmic> so gnome is working on remote server, but you are missing two "menu items" or "icons" - and they were there yesterday?  if yes, which two items?
[10:53] <yildizabdullah> https://i.stack.imgur.com/S8feZ.png
[10:53] <yildizabdullah> This is a screenshot of my screen
[10:55] <weedmic> interesting, looks like "x" loads, but not the desktop environment.  is this remote server a VM?
[10:56] <yildizabdullah> It is a VM and runs on top VMware vSphere
[10:56] <weedmic> It may go away by rebooting the VM.  I have only seen this on VM servers running on windoze hosts.
[10:57] <yildizabdullah> I tried rebooting VM dozens of times
[10:58] <yildizabdullah> https://pasteboard.co/IS2TG3U.png
[10:58] <yildizabdullah> This is the VNC log file
[10:58] <weedmic> interesting - try #vbox (if it is virtualbox) - ppl there are pretty good at this.  I know nothing of windows and have not used it in aeons.  To me I believe you have a problem with the VM.
[10:59] <yildizabdullah> OK thanks
[11:01] <[fre]> Hello Guys, tomreyn, ... ;)
[11:01] <weedmic> #vbox may be able to help you fix the VM - or at least help you prove it either is or is not the VM.
[11:04] <[fre]> After checking the md5sum of the ISO-live-server 18.4.3... it seems I have the good download of a not booting VM.
[11:04] <[fre]> The ISO keeps booting with a kernel panick, unable to unpack the initramfs.
[11:04] <[fre]> on VMware that is.
[11:06] <weedmic> when installing the media on the VM - did you pick the right environment / and simulated HW?
[11:27] <[fre]> most probably, yes. :) It's pretty basic... I'll verify after noon. Just wondering what else I could have chosen that may block it.
[11:32] <lordievader> [fre]: How is the ISO presented in the VM?
[11:35] <weedmic> with this, the temperature of "what" is being measured/reported (by sensors)?  https://pastebin.com/GVni4J9u
[11:37] <tomreyn> cpu cores, or i'm not getting the question right.
[12:14] <weedmic> I also thought it was the CPUs, but that isa adapter thing threw me off.  I also don't get why it only counts some, there are 20 cores 40 threads, but I just figured they did not all have sensors.  tomreyn
[15:54] <weedmic> If I were to delete ~/.cache/, and there is a directory in there called "systemsettings", I should lose all my icon placements, and other systemsettings? or is it just some temporary cache data that is really unimporant as those sets are saved in a .conf file?
[15:56] <weedmic> delete not the directory, but the contents and subdirectories under .cashe/ - i was unclear
[16:45] <lordievader> Cache should be cache. If the programmer respected that is something else. A safe way of testing this is renaming/moving the folder.
[17:05] <[fre]> lordievader, tomreyn. It was caused by a machine that had been created with too small RAM. :) Ramdisk wasn't entirely extractable in RAM. (seems 256M is not enough these times :D ).
[17:39] <tomreyn> [fre]: thanks for reporting back, and yes, your systems and VMs should comply with the documented minimum requirements. ;)
[17:45] <sdeziel> 256M is a bit cramped indeed but if you use the -virtual kernel, IIRC that was still bootable
[17:46] <sdeziel> [fre]: I have a small Bionic VM with 232MB assigned, runs decently OK ;)
[17:47] <sdeziel> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TvNR4MRd6j/ nginx is super light in RAM ;)