[00:14] For R. Pi 2 B class 4 memory card mSD for 18 mate is suitable? I remember it was slow for 15 Mate. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cxTNM6wQ9Z/ [00:35] class 10 is what you want nowadays. [00:41] qwertuttyty: already 5y ago class 10 (C10) was really desirable, including for pi 2b: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blogs/jeff-geerling/raspberry-pi-microsd-card [00:42] (don't buy the specific models listed there, those are also outdated now) [00:42] No today there is only 4 class. 10 class not today but later [00:43] did we just time travel back by 10 years? [00:44] or are you in a place that's affected by embargoes by chance? [00:45] i not use my pi as PC 5 year. [00:45] hmm, not sure i understand. [00:46] Class 10 microSD cards have been available on "western" markets and china (and chinese import shops) for 5 years or more. and you should really get one of those to use on a raspi, even if it's an older raspi. [00:49] It makes sense to install Mate 18 on msd class 4 or no sense to work with msd class 4 will be very slow? [00:50] it will be possible. by my measure, it will be very slow. [00:51] I have class 4 microsd. I can only buy mikrosd 10 clas later. [00:52] I don 't even know exactly when i can buy [00:55] https://www.gearbest.com/memory-cards-c_11259/ [00:57] It makes sense to install Mate 18 on msd class 4 or no sense to work with msd class 4 will be very slow and for 18 Mate [01:10] If nothing is changed with 15 Mate and msd class 4 is also not suitable and for 18 Mate then I know how slow msd class 4. [13:56] Hello. Is there a way to get the available "desktop size" between any top and bottom panels?