[00:00] hmm cinnamint [00:32] hi all, running ubuntu 19.10. I keep seeing an update for "Freedesktop Platform 18.08.39" and clicking "Update All" will show "Installing" but at the next boot or so the update shows as available again. [00:34] kingx: got a screenshot of this update message? [00:36] https://imgur.com/a/LJM6QZq [00:42] kingx: please paste the resulting link from this: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt-get -s upgrade) [00:44] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kX4zFQd26K/ [00:44] thank you for taking a look [00:45] kingx: I feel like something was left out at the bottom, no? [00:45] flatpak update? [00:46] no, that "Reading package lists..." was the last line [00:46] kingx: sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade [00:47] no packages updated. last line -> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [00:48] kingx: looks like there's no updates [00:48] kingx: can you see if you can reproduce the message? [00:48] if these flatpak updates fail, you want to add the basic sources [00:49] oerheks: who said anything about flatpak? [00:49] the freedesktop platform update is always there under "updates" [00:50] clicking update briefly changes to "installing" and then goes back to showing as "update" [00:50] kingx: it shows it right now? [00:50] that package is a flatpak thingy [00:50] yeh [00:51] https://imgur.com/a/lx8PFSS [00:51] shows like this now [00:52] hit the green button, update all? [00:52] not sure that is a button [00:52] yeh, it doesn't really do anything. It will briefly change to installing and then goes back to showing as update available [00:54] no big deal, just a minor annoyance. I'll do a fresh install once 20.04 goes stable [01:00] kingx: do you have anything installed via flatpak? [01:02] i had the same (i think) issue on 18.04.3 until i switched to flatpak from ppa:alexlarsson/flatpak [01:02] yeh, bunch of stuff, chromium, calibre, retroarch [01:03] you could also uninstall gnome-software-plugin-flatpak and live without the GUI update prompts, just working with the flatpak CLI [01:04] Do you guys know how I could set something up so this window always auto closes [01:04] these 3 steps are handy, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2429840&p=13911400#post13911400 [01:04] https://imgur.com/a/KzCFKug [01:06] try clicking on "buy license", this should make it go away [01:07] haha its $600/year and im not using it for commercial purposes [01:07] they dont have non commercial licenses :( [01:07] its a binairy blob, prop software [01:11] hiii [01:11] hi king [01:11] Trying out puppy linux === yashkarandikar is now known as karx === karx is now known as yashkarandikar === yashkarandikar is now known as karx [01:15] thanks for the help guys, i got it work! I uninstalled the existing platform and it gave me an error saying it was in use by an app i removed the app as well [01:15] and then clicked update and it went through [01:34] Is it at all normal that everytime I open the GNOME Tweaks app for the first time after logging in, I get a "Your session needs to be restarted for settings to take effect." message? [01:45] k_sze: i guess not normal, haven't seen this happen before. [01:52] wow suddenly the UI is all messed up... ugh I'm just pissed and had to come here say this :D [01:53] sucks when I get interrupted by more and more bs like this and can't do my work [01:53] I can't even open the screenshot tool or anything [01:53] the menu bars have all disappeared [01:54] when I move a window it leaves a ghost behind like in WIndows lol [01:54] !language | wondows [01:54] wondows: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [01:55] restarting is my only choice... [01:56] also none of this looks like a support question, are you just abusing #ubuntu as your personal web log? === zbenjamin is now known as Guest24251 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:09] I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 18 where Location Services are enabled, and automatic date-time and time-zone are both enabled. But when I change time zones, nothing happens, the time zone remains unchanged when viewing the output of `timedatectl`. [02:10] Could this be a problem with NTP? [02:16] mindofmateo: when you change timezones, you're not changing time; when ntp changes the time, it doesn't do anything with timezones [02:16] mindofmateo: run date -u and compare against https://www.google.com/search?q=utc+time [02:18] Alright, I didn't know if NTP dealt with timezones or not. UTC is correctly synced [02:28] mindofmateo: cool cool, then that narrows it down to "just" timezones :) [02:29] :) it *is* possible to just change it in the settings, that's not the issue. I can make sure my tz is correct, but I just want to understand what isn't working when it says "auto update tz" is turned on. [02:29] I don't understand how any of that works [02:30] I remember reading once that it's done in part via a geolocation service, which means it's going to be .. iffy. [02:31] I saw somewhere recently there was something like "geoclue" in /usr/bin/, but I have nothing like that name in there. [02:33] I just looked at the manual for redshift, my config uses geoclue2, but I can't find anything about it on my system. IDK if that's something internal to redshift or what. [02:34] on ubuntu 18.04, ubuntu-desktop depends on geoclue-2.0 [02:34] mindofmateo: try curl https://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup -- see if that dumped xml looks like it's about right or not [02:38] All of the information looks correct as far as I can tell [02:38] tomreyn is geoclue-2.0 something I have to install? because redshift seems to use it just fine, but apt doesn't say I have it installed [02:39] *facepalm* I retract that. It *is* installed. [02:39] Meaning, geoclue-2.0 [02:45] mindofmateo: hmm, I'm not sure :/ I've only ever done "click on your timezone" kinds of setups [02:47] It's frustrating because all of the stackoverflow etc questions that I've found are unanswered or unresolved [02:48] Jumping on IRC is always my last resort [02:49] mindofmateo: this community friendly & helpful, irc should always be your first resort :p [02:50] hehe [02:50] Oh, it's been so helpful, for sure, I just don't want to come in asking questions unless I've RTFM and STFW first [02:51] mindofmateo: what *does* timedatectl report? does it match what's set in /etc/timezone? Is that a symlink or a regular file? [02:52] I'm checking. /etc/timezone is a regular file [02:54] termbin.com/wi2n timedatectl shows that, and it is correct now because I manually set the time zone. Previously, moments ago, everything was still correct, other than the top line, Local time. That was still set to the previous time zone I was in. [02:54] www.termbin.com/wi2n [03:34] What is this about? https://imgur.com/a/DFgH3LR [03:35] How do I know exactly which device it is talking about? There is no PCI address or hardware ID in the UI. [03:37] k_sze: lspci | grep -i wireless will probably the device in question [03:37] k_sze: lspci -v should show which drivers are in use for which pieces of hardware, you should be able to spot an iwlwifi in that list [03:40] ok [03:41] which is odd [03:41] I see the PCI address, and then I find it in the output of `lshw -C network` and it's not disabled. [03:42] So I have no idea what "Software & Updates" is talking about when the preselected option is "Do not use the device". [03:43] In fact, I *am* connected via wifi right now. [03:49] heh,I wonder what it spotted [04:02] I get that too [04:16] anyone here has used xdotool/xte/xvkbd - I need to automate a small firefox website sequence with keys [04:27] I am getting npm ERR! cb() never called! when trying to install [04:27] not finding many answers on how to fix [04:27] im on 18.04 [04:27] trying to install meshcentral if it helps [04:41] !info meshcentral bionic | Mibix [04:41] Mibix: Package meshcentral does not exist in bionic === Telvana is now known as K8GLX === K8GLX is now known as Telvana === bpsecret- is now known as bpsecret [06:30] I have a new dell precision 7540 with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. It has been a long time since I used Linux. IT has dmesg errors in the log for hardware. Who would you suggest I contact to get some help? [06:33] Autoeth, does it boot? [06:33] https://pastebin.com/jDgzinMr [06:33] yes on it now. [06:34] are you having any issues with your wifi? [06:35] no doesn't seem like it. I know its showing one error in that area [06:35] can you paste your lsblk? [06:35] its brand new just booted [06:36] https://pastebin.com/fzgqXa9g [06:37] what's nvme0n1p2 [06:37] already ran it through updates [06:37] is that meant to be your swap data? [06:38] I am unsure it came as you are seeing it. I would assume thats the harddrive [06:38] so your hard drive was split into 3 parts [06:38] the first part is 780MB, and that's just for booting up [06:38] that one is working fine [06:38] yeah i would guess so. From what I am seeing as well [06:39] the second one is 5GB but it doesn't seem like it is assigned to anything [06:39] how can i check ? maybe recovery from dell ? [06:39] and the third one is the rest of the 500GB and that is where everything is installed [06:39] unless thats the swap [06:40] no if it was swap it'd say swap as the mount point [06:40] oh ok. === nshireTimeout is now known as nshire [06:40] the error is pointing to the p3 [06:41] can you paste "cat /etc/fstab" [06:41] so the larger part [06:42] https://pastebin.com/Q1MPx385 [06:44] so your install itself looks fine for the most part [06:44] (except the random 5gb) [06:45] I'm not super familiar with wifi drivers/firmware [06:45] but if you say it's working correctly, then I guess it's ok [06:45] you have any other ideas on the other errors. [06:46] Wonder if I should contact dell techsupport and make them aware of this ? [06:46] when you installed ubuntu did you check the option for proprietary firmware? [06:46] Good evening. [06:46] hi puff [06:47] I already have an ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS thumb drive, can I use that to install Ubuntu 18? [06:47] Hm, and also to run gparted to shrink the windows partition? [06:48] I did not install it. It came from dell with Ubuntu. When you use the update client it has an option that is checked proprietary drivers [06:48] so i assuming it download and got what it needed during the update [06:48] dell shipped it with ubuntu already installed? [06:48] wow [06:48] yeah you can order it now [06:48] that way [06:48] that's really cool, didn't know about that [06:48] I know right [06:48] have you done a reboot after everything downloaded? [06:49] except you would think they would of worked this out. [06:49] yes it did reboot several times [06:50] I guess you could call them [06:50] puff, you'll need to download the new iso [06:50] but you can definitely use the old thumb drive to adjust partitions and to copy the iso directly onto a usb [06:52] Hm, on second thought this thumb drive seems stuck in read only mode. [06:52] But it looks like it doesn't have any personal data on it, so I can just wipe it. [06:53] monkeystance: Thanks. [06:53] are you currently on the ubuntu 16.04.5 release? [06:53] startup disk creator seems to be having no problems. [06:53] monkeystance: Yeah. [06:53] monkeystance: Just bought a new laptop, installing 18 on that and then I'll migrate personal files over, then wipe the old one. [06:53] do you have a separate /home partition? [06:54] it makes it a lot easier to manage personal files, as well as to do system upgrades with a lot less of a headache [06:55] idk if the default installer advises you to do that by default [06:58] monkeystance: I used to do that, didn't last time I installed. [06:59] it's a really good habit to get into [07:01] Yeah. [07:01] I thought LVM was all the rage these days. [07:05] My shortcut "Move window to right monitor" is not working. I wonder why. Move left works just fine [07:15] Any common gotchas to installing these days? [07:23] puff, accidentally wiping the wrong hard drive is always at the top of the list [07:59] monkeystance: Thanks, and now my new laptop has Ubuntu on it, whee! [07:59] nice! [08:02] Hm, I'm installing the xubuntu-desktop package and it's asking me to pick which of the two display managers to make the default, adm3 or lightdm. [08:07] puff, you can always change it later [08:18] on 18.04.3, I'm not able to use the sound from my system-/logic-/main-/mother-board (Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI.) I've seen people post questions they had problems with that type of board or similar, but solutions were only described for much older versions of Ubuntu... what should I try? [09:02] When computer locks itself after some time, the login screen doesn't work. After I enter the password, the computer locks without doing anything. The login prompt is not shown again in ubuntu. Is there a fix for this? [09:03] The screen just stays locked.This is in ubuntu 18.04 LTS [09:05] This problem occurs only when computer is left alone for hours rather than minutes. [09:06] quarterback: is it going in sleep mode ? [09:07] legreffier, Seems so but scren is visible and the screen shows that display is locked. [09:07] quarterback: on many hardware, sleep mode just won't wake up or crash upon [09:08] i meant sleep not just with screensaver, more like soft hibernation [09:08] legreffier, The login prompt is shown just once. After I enter the correct password, it just disappears and the screen stays locked. The only way to get out of this is with hard reset. [09:09] If I hit the ESC key, the screen should display login prompt which it doesn't. [09:10] it might have kept some log in /var/log/messages , can you paste one on pastebin ? (not the current one, a previous run one , should be suffixed with log.1, 2, 3, ... ) [09:10] legreffier, It is going into suspend mode and doesn't come out of it with a login prompt. [09:12] there is no /var/log/messages folder [09:12] what's your environment ? [09:13] can it wake up when you manually put it to suspend ? [09:13] gnome flashback with compiz on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. Intel core2duo, 4 GB ram [09:13] core 2 duo ? [09:13] is it a laptop ? [09:13] legreffier, If I manually lock it, it unlocks properly.It is a older desktop. [09:14] not locking it, suspending it [09:14] legreffier, Let me check suspending manually. [09:16] :( [09:19] legreffier, you are right. Resuming after suspend doesn't work. The computer stays locked even after login. The login prompt doesn't appear again. I just see the wallpaper and a lock icon with username on top right. [09:20] This seems like soft hibernation without actual powerdown. The same thing happens with sleep mode in which HDD is powered down. [09:20] graphical drivers might have a hardtime waking up , especially on legacy hardware [09:20] if that's a desktop, you probably don't want it to sleep [09:21] Is there a fix for this? [09:21] easiest is disabling it. [09:21] Hey [09:22] legreffier, This seems like a but in ubuntu. [09:22] legreffier, This seems like a bug in ubuntu. [09:23] what kind of gpu are you using ? [09:23] the bug might be on vendor side as those drivers are often non-free [09:24] both nvidia and ati have opensource and GPL'd counterpart, they're not as efficient but might deal better with power management [09:24] you can try disabling proprietary driver. [09:25] in both case, you might have a hard time fixing those as ~10 y/o gears won't get a lot of support [09:26] you might be better off disabling suspend features [09:27] legreffier, Is this problem fixed with gnome wayland? This occurs with gnome flashback. [09:27] legreffier, It may work without the proprietary driver. [09:28] i don't think gnome wayland or X is in cause there. [09:28] legreffier, How do I disable proprietary driver? [09:28] you should have an option in system setting [09:29] i don't have a ubuntu setup with me, I won't be able to describe reliably [09:29] this should be described on wiki though [09:30] legreffier, The settings are not visible in this. THey were visible in gnome 3 latest. [09:31] legreffier, I changed BIOS to dpms sometime ago for power saving. Is this the cause? [09:32] give it a try [09:32] legreffier, Let me try disabling dpms and change it to something else. Perhaps its the cause with bad driver. === pwl is now known as me === me is now known as toja === toja is now known as p8596 [09:49] legreffier, It seems to have worked. However suspend doesn't resume with keyboard or mouse movement. Suspend only resumes with power switch. [09:50] I had change bios settings. [09:54] There is no suspend option in gnome latest. [09:55] Let me try if it wakes up normally in this GUI [10:01] on 18.04.3, I'm not able to use the sound from my system-/logic-/main-/mother-board (Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI.) I've seen people post questions they had problems with that type of board or similar, but solutions were only described for much older versions of Ubuntu... what should I try? It was working before... not after some past kernel upgrade (though don't know which) [10:19] the update-manager (gnome application) delete always the package list of package that are on hold (apt-mark showhold) [10:19] ... BUG? [10:22] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1586468 [10:22] Launchpad bug 1586468 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""apt-mark hold" ignored by Update Manager " [Medium,Confirmed] [10:22] yes [10:24] ... its another bug, but similar [10:24] How do I package a custom build of kernel for PPA? [10:24] Speficially, the kernel is built for a single set of hardware and includes firmware blobs [10:25] nm, asking in deve [10:46] legreffier, I changed suspend type from stop grant to power on suspend [11:45] Hello. I observe a weird problem with Ubuntu and chromium. After logging in to a new (MATE) session I can only type some special characters *in chromium* while in all other tools I tested (pluma, firefox, thunderbird, terminal ...) any char works. But: Each char I typed somewhere *before opening* chromium works there as well. [11:46] Any idea how to fix this? === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje === Kiwis71 is now known as Kiwis [12:13] Hello, I found a bug on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and I'd like to report it. gnome-screenshot, if using the command line arguments, does not send its data to the clipboard. Just thought I'd report on this. :) [12:14] mknepper: join #ubuntu+1 please [12:14] thank you [12:15] Hi, on 18.04 my /boot is full, "dpkg -l | grep -E 'linux-image-[0-9]+' | grep -Fv $(uname -r)" shows me a list of about 30 with "rc" however many of them are are still in /boot/ how do i remove them? I do not want to use autoremove as its showing that it will remove many packages that i still use (such as sshfs and others) [12:15] but... 20.04 will be released on april... Oo [12:16] also autoremove is only showing that it will remove 1 kernel version [12:16] Miles8of9: support still in #ubuntu+1 till final release [12:18] I know, i'm trying to find bugs before release and help out [12:26] any ideas on how to remove old kernels in 18.04? [12:32] sruli: if these are all updates that came via the normal apt upgrade, you can just use "apt autoremove" command, you should see the old kernel packages in the list [12:34] rory: auto remove shows that it will remove some packages that i still use (such as sshfs) also it only shows that it will remove 1 version of kernel, i have about 10 in /boot that are old and not listed in auto remove however dpkg shows then with "rc" [12:35] you might have to explicitly "apt remove" these packages [12:36] ok, i will try [12:40] its not deleting the files from /boot [12:53] Hey folks [13:10] sruli: bleachbit to the rescue [13:44] lotuspsychje: bleachbit? is that not a gui pkg? [13:45] sruli: its a gui, but you can also clean system command line [13:45] i'll check it, thanks [13:53] hi there. I set GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE to 'hidden' in /etc/default/grub and GRUB_TIMEOUT to 5 and ran update-grub, but the menu still appears instead of being hidden until a key is pressed. what gives? [13:54] lighterowl: are you dual booting? [13:54] sruli: I am, yes. [13:54] it's an EFI system, if that makes a difference. [13:54] lighterowl: you got to chnage some more config, 1 min will check [13:54] oh. [13:57] lighterowl: in /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober "set timeout_style=menu" change "menu" to "hidden". update-grub [13:58] well that's new. [13:58] thanks sruli [13:59] lighterowl: its not new, for dual boot i knew about it at least since 16.04 if not 14,04 [13:59] lighterowl: oh yeah, I meant "unexpected". :) [13:59] damn [13:59] sruli: that was for you. [13:59] rotfl talking to myself [14:00] lighterowl: if you want to set your timeout to 0 in grub you will need to update os-prober [14:00] if [ "\${timeout}" = 0 ]; then [14:00] set timeout=10 [14:01] strange that os-prober is free to modify so many settings from /etc/default/grub, which I expect would take precedence. [14:02] lighterowl: os-prober is for when there is more then 1 boot option, these are not really dealt with in default grub [14:03] I see. [14:13] for past 2 months i cant get GSconnect extension to work, when i try to install from extensions.gnome.org all i get is "ERROR" in web page, any ideas how to trouble shoot this? [14:14] ^^ when i click on GSconnect settings in web page i get this output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vJch2GbVbK/ [14:16] sruli: bugs about the extension itself, best to forward to the specific maintainer [14:29] Hi, has anything changed on the Ubuntu preseed installation? I've using the same netboot image and a preseed file for Ubuntu 18 but for some reason its failing today and I see a message "mirror does not have any suite symlinks" [14:30] I tried the solution suggested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/choose-mirror/+bug/600789 and changed 'mirror' to 'choose-mirror' but still failing [14:30] Launchpad bug 600789 in choose-mirror (Ubuntu) ""d-i mirror/*" does not work on presseding" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:40] <__raven_> lotuspsychje: regarding my issue with missing displays after upgrade. what did you want me to try or find out? [14:41] __raven_: im sorry, i dont recall your issue anymore, can you re-ask into the channel please? [14:41] Heya [14:42] <__raven_> update to 19.10 disabled multi monitor mode using two monitors on nvidia and additional two on internal intel915 onboard.c how to expand nvidia view to internal graphics again? [14:45] __raven_: can you pastebin: sudo lshw -C video && uname -a && nvidia-smi please? [14:51] with nautilus sftp connection any way to run a sudo su on it? [14:53] Phruis`: There is not a way to escalate privleges in the SFTP browser of Nautilus [14:54] gotcha so only other option is login as root? [14:54] Phruis`: Use a dedicated SFTP clinet program that supports privelege escalation [14:54] pragmaticenigma, are you aware of one? [14:55] pragmaticenigma, i am willing to use the command line if i can still get the file system options [14:55] I believe FileZilla can... I'm not sure how to do it though [14:55] ok [14:55] thanks [14:56] Phruis`: the other option would be to SSH to the system and copy the file to a directory the SFTP user has access to, and change the permissions on the copied file for the SFTP to access [14:59] pragmaticenigma, yeah true [15:01] asking again, in case it got missed [15:01] Hi, has anything changed on the Ubuntu preseed installation? I've using the same netboot image and a preseed file for Ubuntu 18 but for some reason its failing today and I see a message "mirror does not have any suite symlinks" [15:01] I tried the solution suggested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/choose-mirror/+bug/600789 and changed 'mirror' to 'choose-mirror' in the preseed file but still failing [15:01] Launchpad bug 600789 in choose-mirror (Ubuntu) ""d-i mirror/*" does not work on presseding" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:01] !YY.MM | uzee [15:01] uzee: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [15:03] pragmaticenigma: my bad, the netboot image is 18.04, the preseed file does not specify the release, the mirror lines just have ubuntu [15:07] uzee: Unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with Preseed, though #ubuntu-server might have other individuals there that may have more experience with handling preseed [15:07] After about 20-25 minutes I also see a warning in the ALt+F4 console saying: mirror does not support the specified release (bionic) [15:07] ah ok, thanks so much, will ask there [15:08] uzee: Just make sure you always specify the full version numbers [15:08] yep :) doing that right now [15:08] <__raven_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZD73DR6SVf/ lotuspsychje [15:10] __raven_: other drivers show in; ubuntu-drivers list please? [15:14] <__raven_> lotuspsychje: active ("tested") nvidia-driver-390, already tried nvidia-340. that's it [15:15] __raven_: does xrandr show all your screens? [15:19] <__raven_> lotuspsychje: yes [15:21] __raven_: xrandr --auto does anything? [15:23] We have a build pipeline using a ubuntu:xenial image that installs some dev packages, does some non-apt related stuff, and then removes a subset of the installed packages. Except recently it started to purge packages that have installed on the commandline. Anyone have a clue what can cause this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/McxWzHysgc/ [15:24] packages that are manually installed are included in the purge where previously they would not be [15:29] <__raven_> lotuspsychje: no nothing :/ [15:30] __raven_: have you tryed a liveusb to compare yet? [15:30] <__raven_> not yet. will try it next [15:34] urth: I believe it is a dependency relationship between python3-dev and libmysqlclient-dev... or the removal of gcc which I'm not sure why you would do that [15:37] sorry, it's part of a pipeline but the result is build into a new image, that's why gcc is removed. [15:39] but still, libmysqlclient-dev is manually installed, I wouldn't expect it to be considered for removal [15:39] urth: libmysqlclient-dev depends on libssl-dev which you are removing [15:40] ah, that's it, thank you ! [15:41] urth: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libmysqlclient-dev === Grayson is now known as gb === gb is now known as Grayson [16:02] Ok - more fun with BT. How come with a BT speaker is connected. AND SET AS DEFAULT SOUND. I have to goto the sounds setting, and not just goto devices and confirm it is the default output location. ALSO goto APPLICATIONS and CHOOSE which APP is using what sound output and DEFINE IT THERE. - THEN if the BT speaker disconnects. the Applicaion CONTINUES to use that DISCONNECTED device as its sound choice- even after reboot. I have to goto t [16:02] he settings and choose a new/different output destination before disconnecting the BT speaker - otherwise i lose sound. [16:03] subcool: If it was me at this point... I'd given up on BT and plugged in a cord [16:06] pragmaticenigma: i do sometimtes. thhe JBL speaker i have dropssound iff tthhe audio goess to low [16:07] and my keybooar is a rrere [16:07] <__raven_> lotuspsychje: 19.10 live is able to use all 4 displays separately [16:07] <__raven_> any way of copying any settings? [16:14] xubuntu or lubuntu is more light for old netbook ? [16:15] aguitel: in my exprienace lubuntu [16:16] sruli: this es aspire one D260 intel atom n450 with 1gb ram [16:18] there is also mate, pretty lightweight too [16:19] aguitel: lubuntu should run just fine on it [16:19] sruli: will try now [16:19] 1gb? I don't know about that, man [16:20] from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu#Lubuntu_18.04_LTS "System requirements for Lubuntu 18.04 LTS included a minimum of 1 GB of RAM, although 2 GB was recommended for better performance" [16:24] @skruli thanks! Won't it get a bit crashy? [16:26] cybertruck2077: depends on applications used... from lubuntu.net "The recommended "lubuntu Desktop" from version 15.04 onwards is 1 GB of RAM. For Internet services like Facebook, Youtube, and Google Docs about 1 GB RAM are needed. For local programs like Libre Office and simple browsing habits 512 MB RAM are usually sufficient. For PCs with less resources, there are alternative lubuntu installers on the download pages, that provide [16:26] a basic running system for those systems." [16:26] I had a low RAM notebook I bought recently and installed Manjaro on it, would just up and stall the OS if you did anything intense. [16:27] That's impressive [16:27] i use lubuntu on some of my powerfull PC's to get teh OS to use as little resources as possible [16:29] nice === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [16:32] thatone [16:38] I've added a vpn via the network manager. I'm now remote from that machine. Anyone have a doc detailing how I can connect to that vpn from the cli? [16:39] shjagohsgusdhjg: nmcli con up id [16:44] leftyfb thanks, sadly, not quite the same as using the network manager, but should work. [16:45] huh? [16:45] shjagohsgusdhjg: since NM truncates the profile names, it is completely unusable to me for the vpn's I use at owkr. So I only use the command line anyway [16:45] work* [16:46] leftyfb: nmtui? [16:47] al2o3-cr: I guess that's another way. It's quicker for me to just use nmcli for my needs though [16:47] leftyfb: fair play. [16:50] seriously - why do i have to manually tell my computer whiich program to use BT sounds with- instead of just clicking DEFAULT [16:54] is there any special drivers/software I have to install in 19.10 if I use an ATI card? [16:54] I'd very much like to play some Dota 2 on it. [16:55] cybertruck2077: the default drivers should just work, and there are no others which coud work really. [16:55] what ati card? the older ones just need the openradeon driver [16:55] cybertruck2077: "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" should list the recommended drivers [16:56] "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" would list applicable *proprietary* drivers, which aren't necessarily the recommended drivers. [16:56] but in this case no proprietary drivers should be available anyways. [16:58] Ah OK, it's a 570? [16:59] !ati [16:59] Open drivers for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). AMD has a closed driver named amdgpu-pro that supports the same cards as amdgpu, but it is generally unnecessary. FGLRX is not supported in any current Ubuntu version or in this channel. For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units [16:59] That's weird, sudo ubuntu-drivers devices doesn't show anything [16:59] see if you need amdgpu-pro [17:00] hello all [17:00] ok I'll check it out [17:01] not weird, sonce you don't need proprietary drivers for "AMD Radeon RX 570" (which is not "ATI 570") [17:01] i made a snap for an application, now , i build it on fossa ( unstable ) , is it maybe a better idea to build it after fossa is launched official ? [17:01] any thoughts are welcome [17:02] unimatrix9: /join #ubuntu-app-devel [17:02] and / or #snappy [17:03] subcool: BT and PulseAudio are two completely independent systems. I have to guess that there is a "shim" right now to get them to talk to each other. I would expect it to take some time before things are as fluid as you're expecting them to be. Since you're original support issue appears to have been resolved, I'd encourage further discussion in the #ubuntu-discuss channel [17:05] i wouldnt call it resolved. but ill go with 'not getting fixed" [17:06] Thanks though [17:13] Hi. I've just wiped an ACER laptop and installed Kubuntu LTS on it. At boot the grub screen won't show. It just goes into a loop. Any suggestions on a fix? [17:14] e|f: EFI or MBR - Is your Bios setup for Secureboot? or Legacy. Do you have GPT - after that. im kinda uselss [17:15] (but i do run into that often) === SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL [17:16] e|f: do you know if you installed in uefi mode or not? [17:18] greetings, after creating a interface file for my bonding, the bond interface shows that it's down. it also shows no carrier. any suggestions? [18:29] Hi. I am trying to capture video from a v4l2 device (in order to record VHS to my pc. I am using OBS Studio for that. However, audio and video are out of sync. Can anybody recommend me another software capable of recording from a v4l2? [18:29] (if I play the VHS tape connected to a tv, there is no delay, so it's either the capture device, or the OBS studio software) [18:32] (Oh, I just realized VLC can capture from devices, I'll try that)\ [18:32] woenx: recording software crossing my mind are vlc, kazam en recordmydesktop [18:38] Mmm, I can't seem to make VLC capture audio [18:39] the audio device is set to hw:1,0, but then it complains that it can't find /home/user/hw%3A1%2C0 [18:39] mmm...that amdgpu-pro script isn't compatible with 19.10 it seems [18:39] and I don't appear to have hardware accelleration in Dota 2 with this RX 570 [18:40] cybertruck2077: script? [18:40] cybertruck2077: what does "lshw -c video" give? [18:41] I spoke too soon lol [18:41] I had the wrong monitor, my Rx 570 is on the left hand one, right hand is an integrated Intel one [18:42] Installed Vulkan in Dota 2, works like a charm, thank you [18:42] Ohh, it needs to be alsa://hw:1,0 instead of just hw:1,0 [18:42] why isn't that way by default? [18:49] Ok, the audio/video is synced in VLC. therefore it's a problem with OBC studio. [18:49] OBS Studio* [19:03] Does anyone ever experience, mouse clicks, left or right becoming unresponsive in 18.04? I've tried different mice. Sometimes unplugging and reinserting does the trick, other time logging out and logging back in works. The mouse pointer continues to move around the screen without any issues even when the clicks stop working. If it was windows, I'd probably mess with drivers in device manager, but being a newbie on Linux, I wouldn't k [19:03] now how to reinstall drivers. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks [19:06] corshmock, Ive had odd things like that happen with my usb ports. right now, my mouse is working because its plugged into a powered usb hub [19:06] just stopped working in the PCs usb port [19:07]