[00:53] <yoo-laly> help! getting errors: FAT-fs Directory bread(block 6122#) failed
[00:54] <Bashing-om> yoo-laly: "FAT-fs" Window's file system, are you where you can sic Window's file system checker on it ?
[00:56] <yoo-laly> I don't think so. this is a reinstall on an old system (dell inspiron 1210...i know) that used to run XP, and I had put a new Ubuntu load on it but it didnt work. I installed xubuntu 18.04.3, but it wouldnt boot properly after the install finished. Just finished a reinstall, and now getting a whole host of errors
[00:56] <yoo-laly> It was booting into Ubuntu fine 2 hours ago, so I'm pretty sure the disk itself is fine
[00:58] <yoo-laly> rebooting now
[00:58] <Bashing-om> yoo-laly: Then we need to know where that "FAT-fs" is coming from. Pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu ' please.
[00:59] <yoo-laly> the machine wouldnt accept commands so I'm rebooting. will post as soon as it's up
[01:00] <yoo-laly> whoa that's heckin weird. now it's up. sorry to bother
[01:01] <Bashing-om> yoo-laly: :D Magic :P
[01:01] <yoo-laly> X)
[06:11] <monkeystance> hi
[06:13] <monkeystance> I messed up my xfce/manjaro linux install while trying to install grub onto a different drive
[06:14] <monkeystance> had my /home on a different partition, and I've just used the whole thing as an excuse to install xubuntu
[06:14] <monkeystance> migrating my xfce config was pretty simple and it feels pretty comfy so far
[06:15] <diogenes_> monkeystance, welcome!
[06:17] <monkeystance> thanks
[06:17] <monkeystance> I used mint as my daily os from around 2013-2016 or so
[06:17] <monkeystance> back when apt was apt-get
[06:18] <diogenes_> i've never had good time with neither mint nor manjaro.
[06:19] <monkeystance> oh really?
[06:19] <monkeystance> what issues did you run into with mint?
[06:21] <kgb> manjaro blows as well ^ xubu ftw
[06:21] <monkeystance> haha
[06:21] <kgb> :)
[06:22] <diogenes_> one after reboot the mic was missing, when the new version came out it didn't even boot without nomodeset, on another pc it was booting for 5 minutes unless you tweak kernel parameters so i ditched it for good.
[06:23] <monkeystance> did you grab a new kernel right after release?
[06:24] <monkeystance> I think debian will always have a level of stability that arch can't really come close to
[06:25] <diogenes_> if the default one doesn't boot and at the same time xubuntu works perfectly on the same machine then to me the choice is obvious.
[06:25] <monkeystance> well I'm literally here because manjaro wouldn't boot and I couldn't be bothered looking into why
[06:25] <monkeystance> so maybe you have a point haha
[06:27] <diogenes_> yes and moreover, i had a machine that nothing could boot, not ubuntu, not kubuntu, nothing except xubuntu.
[06:28] <monkeystance> that's strange
[06:28] <monkeystance> maybe it's a 32 bit system?
[06:29] <diogenes_> indeed but that's a fakt and it was a new acer machine, 64bit.
[06:30] <diogenes_> fact*
[06:36] <monkeystance> could be a uefi thing then idk
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[16:17] <ruwolf> I have installed Microsoft Windows 10 and Xubuntu on the same new computer/NVMe device. I know. that I will probably need ESP (EFI system partition). But there already is 3rd partition with name VYHRADENÉ SYSTÉMOM (which is Slovak translation of SYSTEM RESERVED). Can I use this partition System Reserved as ESP? It has NTFS by parted and by
[16:17] <ruwolf> disktype, too. It has size 579MiB and has directories Boot, Recovery, System Volume Iinformation and files BOOTNXT, BOOTSECT.BAC and bootmgr.
[16:59] <ruwolf> I have omitted to mention, that it boots from SSD to Windows only, now. I have both Windows install and Xubuntu install USB keys.
[17:15] <lighterowl> ruwolf: from what you're describing, it sounds like your computer is set to boot in MBR/BIOS (aka "legacy") mode instead of UEFI, which requires an ESP.
[17:17] <lighterowl> ruwolf: especially if the "System Reserved" partition is formatted in NTFS and you have all these files there.
[17:17] <ruwolf> Yes, I can set legacy booting on the machine.
[17:19] <lighterowl> ruwolf: okay. but is it currently set to legacy or UEFI? keep in mind that if you change it now, no system will be able to boot.
[17:19] <ruwolf> lighterowl: Vendor names it "Compatibility Support Module". I think, it is now in CSM.
[17:20] <lighterowl> ruwolf: ah yes, this is also a name I've seen for this. anyhow, if you want to have dualboot with this setup, you don't have to worry about the ESP - just install grub in BIOS mode and you should be good to go.
[17:23] <ruwolf> lighterowl: BTW: Thank you for your helping to me. Is it more safe to be in UEFI mode and is it able to convert both installations to it? It will be used for less experienced user mainly in Windows.
[17:25] <lighterowl> ruwolf: I wouldn't say it makes any difference to the end user. UEFI can be "safer" when you turn Secure Boot on, which only requires signed code to be installed as a bootloader - but that comes with its own set of issues if you're dual-booting.
[17:26] <ruwolf> lighterowl: OK, so I will leave in good old BIOS mode. Thank you very much for your help, again. :-)
[17:26] <lighterowl> you only really *need* UEFI if the drive you're booting from is larger than 2TB, which is only partitionable with the GPT partitioning scheme.
[17:26] <lighterowl> yep, that's what I'd do too. no problem!
[17:28] <ruwolf> lighterowl: It is only 1TB drive, so it probably need not it, ever...
[17:29] <lighterowl> okay, great. leave it in BIOS mode in this case and just forget about it. :)
[17:32] <ruwolf> lighterowl: I want to boot it to MS Windows by default. Will be editing /etc/default/grub line GRUB_DEFAULT=1 sufficient for it?
[17:34] <lighterowl> ruwolf: first, make sure that the os-prober package is installed so grub can detect your Windows installation and add it to the menu. then, have a look at which index it was assigned in the menu and set GRUB_DEFAULT to the appropriate index.
[17:45] <ruwolf> lighterowl: grub2-install gives me error from grub-probe: failed to get canonical path of '/cow'. I have booted from Xubuntu USB, now.
[17:46] <ruwolf> lighterowl: Pardon: update-grub2 gives me this message
[17:48] <lighterowl> you'd need to chroot into the existing Xubuntu installation first.
[17:50] <lighterowl> have a look here on how to do that : https://superuser.com/questions/111152/whats-the-proper-way-to-prepare-chroot-to-recover-a-broken-linux-installation
[18:13] <ruwolf> @lighterowl: I have tried it, but I have got another error from grub-probe: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda1. Check your device.map.
[18:14] <ruwolf> lighterowl: It is partiton on USB
[18:26] <ruwolf> Can I remove it?