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[12:05] <lubot> Mateusz Konieczny was added by: Mateusz Konieczny
[12:07] <lubot> <Mateusz Konieczny> @parauj [After using "apt upgrade" command in order to update all the applications, GRUP …], Maybe https://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time can help?  … > Menu will appear if you press and hold Shift during loading Grub, if you boot using BIOS. When your system boots using UEFI, pres
[12:07] <lubot> s Esc.
[12:07] <lubot> <Mateusz Konieczny> Where I can change setting so dragging file will move it rather than show question whatever I want to move it or copy it?
[17:27] <noordean> helo
[17:48] <bwew253tgzwhbd> WHY IS LTS IN LUBUNTU ONLY 3 YEARS WTF!?!?!?!?
[17:48] <bwew253tgzwhbd> i thought lubuntu is UBUNTU with other desktop?!?!?!?
[17:49] <bwew253tgzwhbd> what would happen if i use 18.04 like for 4 years instead 3 years???? it uses ubuntu update sources or not?
[17:49] <bwew253tgzwhbd> would i still get security updates
[17:55] <wxl> bwew253tgzwhbd: nothing new. the lubuntu team only offers support for that long, but as far as security updates (well, and package updates), you'll get them from the ubuntu repos like normal.
[17:55] <wxl> bwew253tgzwhbd: so for example, you can come here for 3 years and we'll answer whatever you want. after that, we'll advise you to move on to a new release. you can choose to ignore us, but if you want support, you'd want to reach out to the ubuntu community which would have less ability to help since they're not intimately familiar with lubuntu.
[17:55] <wxl> bwew253tgzwhbd: similarly, we'll continue to work on SRUs (basically important bug fixes; not necessarily security-based ones) for 3 years. after that, we won't bother pulling those fixes into the old release.
[17:56] <wxl> bwew253tgzwhbd: incidentially, most flavors have similar degrees of support because they have, like us, small teams. if you want to help change that, contribute! :)
[17:58] <wxl> bwew253tgzwhbd: oh and regarding those SRUs you could always fix them yourself and/or get some ubuntu developer to fix them for you. so that's a thing, too.
[18:06] <kenb> asdas
[18:06] <kenb> alguien?
[18:21] <lubot> <Mateusz Konieczny> What is the good way to check whatever laptop that I plan to buy will support Lubuntu (and other linuxes)? … I want to buy Dell INSPIRON 3493 and found https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201907-27239 but I am unsure whatever all 3493 have the same hardware or are there further differences?
[18:23] <wxl> the general rule is it will :)
[18:23] <wxl> linux works really hard to support hardware of all kinds, both new and old
[18:23] <wxl> now as far as the proprietary software is concerned, though, ymmv
[18:24] <lubot> <parauj> @Mateusz Konieczny [Maybe https://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot- …], Thanks dude!
[18:26] <lubot> <Mateusz Konieczny> I know that there are issues with (for example) some NVIDIA hardware. … https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~airlied/linux/commit/?id=665ae581ae82ed6a28980a32b9d37345db4eed32 … > the "security" restrictions on the … fecs/gpccs falcons are excessive and go beyond what'd be necessary to … protect the host from malicious firmware.  Th
[18:26] <lubot> is newer nvidia hw is … VERY open-source unfriendly.
[18:29] <wxl> right. in which case you can use the proprietary drivers. but again with that: ymmv.
[19:36] <nmzm> Hey all :)
[19:37] <nmzm> Is there a way to restore default lxde settings somehow on lubuntu?
[19:37] <wxl> you could try to reinstall lubuntu-default-settings
[19:38] <wxl> alternately you could pick the default settings files from /etc/xdg/wherever
[19:38] <nmzm> This will install default lubuntu(lxde) settings as I understand, but if I want to try clean version of lxde without custom features?
[19:39] <wxl> those are in there, too
[19:40] <nmzm> Hmm, thank you, I'll try
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