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bdmurray#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team16:03
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bdmurray#topic Lightning rounds16:03
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bdmurrayecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity mwhudson juliank waveform)16:03
bdmurraytdaitx sil2100 waveform infinity doko bdmurray vorlon mwhudson rbalint juliank xnox16:03
* xnox win16:03
bdmurraytdaitx:16:04
tdaitxShort week: out last week16:04
tdaitx* openjdk-816:04
tdaitx  - investigated os::commit_memory errors on armhf16:04
tdaitx  - no proper reproducer (yet), happens intermittently, more so with some particular tests, will contact upstream with more data16:04
tdaitx  - updated test scripts to copy & keep hs_err log files; need to copy this functionality to the other openjdk packages16:04
tdaitx* setting up test comparison for jck-1116:04
tdaitx* various openjdk blacklists and hinting16:04
tdaitx(done)16:04
bdmurraysil2100:16:04
tdaitxops, I meant arm64, not armhf, typo! =)16:05
bdmurraywaveform:16:05
waveform* Back-ported LP: #1311056 to xenial, bionic, eoan16:05
waveform* Fixed and LP: #1861292 and back-ported to bionic16:05
waveform* Lots of work on getting core18 to boot (nothing yet, but some interesting notes from the kernel team on possible incorrect dtb being loaded by the bootloader)16:05
waveform* More testing on focal and bionic .4 classic images; no issues (other than the flash-kernel one above)16:05
waveform(done)16:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1311056 in python-apt (Ubuntu Eoan) "[SRU] apt-add-repository adds duplicate commented/disabled source lines" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131105616:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1861292 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu Bionic) "flash-kernel failure during kernel upgrade" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186129216:05
sil2100Crap16:05
* sil2100 not ready anwyway16:06
bdmurraydoko:16:06
doko - finished unversioned python removal, python-defaults migrated16:06
doko - started python3.8 defaults transition16:06
doko - gcc-10 update16:06
doko - binutils & gdb updates16:06
doko - more unrelated transition work16:06
doko(done)16:06
bdmurraybdmurray: its a me!16:06
bdmurrayupdated meta-release files for 19.04 End of Life16:06
bdmurrayupdated daisy code base for 19.04 End of Life16:06
bdmurraylearned how to use autodeploy with the Error Tracker16:06
bdmurrayresearched retracing queues growing huge16:06
bdmurraydiscovered issue with retracer configuration and ddebs key16:07
bdmurrayemailed ubuntu-devel regarding retracing backlog16:07
bdmurraytested a distribution upgrade from X to B w/ -proposed16:07
bdmurrayuploaded walinuxagent to F and SRUs (LP: #1851064)16:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1851064 in walinuxagent (Ubuntu Eoan) "[SRU] Update WALinuxAgent to 2.2.45" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185106416:07
sil2100I can go now16:07
bdmurraySRU verification of LP: #185668416:07
bdmurrayattended Cape Town sprint16:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1856684 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Populate .disk/info in ubuntu-image built images" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185668416:07
bdmurray✔ done16:07
vorlon * short week, out most of Thursday and Friday afternoon16:07
vorlon * proposed-migration: worked on libffi transition, miscellaneous others16:07
vorlon * disco EOL: running 'swift delete' in a loop for the past 3 days to get rid of the autopkgtest usage16:07
vorlon(done)16:07
sil2100I'll go now o/16:07
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases16:07
sil2100- 18.04.4 - stuff, lots of stuff, busy busy, no panic yet tho16:07
sil2100(done)16:07
sil2100(didn't have time to write up anything better)16:08
bdmurrayrbalint is still out16:08
bdmurrayjuliank:16:08
juliank* Sponsored flash-kernel uploads for waveform16:08
juliank* dug a bit further into openblas / hypre (LP: #1860601), and other autopkgtest regressions and migrations16:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1860601 in openblas (Ubuntu) "openblas: causes autopkgtest failure in hypre armhf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186060116:08
juliank* could not investigate apport regression as apt just segfaulted in autopkgtest image :/16:08
juliank* apt 1.9.8, fixing crash in apt 1.9.7, slightly improving performance, and changing disco mentions to focal16:08
juliank* update-notifier pep8 -> pycodestyle change16:08
juliank* synced python-apt 1.9.516:08
juliank* merged autopkgtest 5.1116:08
juliank* merged irssi 1.2.216:08
juliank* re-added the pep8 binary package to pep8 to ease the python-defaults transition16:09
juliank* work on powerpc-utils, reviewing patches16:09
xnoxdoko:  are you planning to do gcc-9 and gcc-8 uploads to focal? i.e. with just newer stuff from branches that are available? cause there are s390x fixes.....16:09
juliank* reviewing specs16:09
juliank* in the progress of reimplementing kernel autoremoval for apt16:09
juliank(done)16:09
dokoxnox: at some point, yes16:09
bdmurrayxnox: your turn16:09
xnoxBack from Cape Town Sprint16:09
xnoxOff to Brussels for FOSDEM / escaping Brexit tomorrow16:09
xnoxUpdated s390-tools LP: #1860574 LP: #1860531 LP: #1859018 LP: #185330816:09
xnoxTODO: AA to approve s390-tools upload https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=s390-tools16:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1860574 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[UBUNTU 20.04] zkey: Fix display of clear key size for XTS keys" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186057416:09
xnoxUploaded livecd-rootfs changes to enable SSH access on s390x16:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1860531 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "IPL on z15 always performed regardless of the secure-boot related settings" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186053116:09
xnoxUploaded livecd-rootfs to use the right oem-20.04 flavour, which actually is just oem flavour, with matching ubuntu-cdimage changes, reviewed by Laney16:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1859018 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[UBUNTU] zkey: Fix listing of keys on file systems reporting DT_UNKNOWN." [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185901816:09
xnoxFiled bug report that cloud-init crashes with static network configuration16:09
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1853308 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1853308). The error has been logged16:09
xnoxStarted mailing list discussion with server team that cloud-init does not harvest netplan.yaml that our initrd generates16:09
xnoxRebasing numpy-less boost on i386 onto boost1.71 builds, in preparation for ABI transition16:09
xnoxUploaded new qclib LP: #185271816:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1852718 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[20.04 FEAT] Upgrade qclib 2.0.1" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185271816:09
xnoxUploaded casper with finalrd dep into bionic for point release LP: #184012216:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1840122 in linux (Ubuntu Eoan) "System fails to reboot from live session or ubiquity-dm - squashfs_read_data failed to read block" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184012216:09
xnoxWorking with frank / ryan / mwhudson on debugging s390x curtin / subiquity / multipath failing to complete the install16:10
xnoxUploaded xdmf to unbreak really bad py3.8/cmake packaging16:10
xnoxdone16:10
bdmurray#topic Release incoming bugs16:10
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bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html16:10
bdmurraythere seem to be quite a few here16:11
bdmurraybug 1860531 is targetted and tagged (lame)16:11
ubottubug 1860531 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "IPL on z15 always performed regardless of the secure-boot related settings" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186053116:11
xnoxthat's in progress16:12
xnoxneeds AA to approve mu upload, as mentioned in my status with TODO16:12
bdmurraybug 186043216:12
ubottubug 1860432 in systemd (Ubuntu) "juju agent fails to start on focal " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186043216:12
vorlonµ16:12
xnoxso needs forwarding bug report to upstream systemd based on comment #116:13
xnoxi guess rbalint or I can take it16:13
xnoxit's not critical to fix though16:14
bdmurrayso let's card that16:14
xnoxbecause with juju team we did a bit of a "but why are you doing this?!"16:14
xnoxand they are changing code to be more normal.16:14
bdmurraybug 186135316:14
ubottubug 1861353 in glibc (Ubuntu) "libc6-dev:amd64 is not co-installable with libc6-dev:s390x" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186135316:14
vorlonxnox: but the juju part is fixed, so is this critical for anything to change on the systemd side?16:14
xnoxvorlon:  correct juju is going to stop using subdirectories, but it is a potential upstream regression nonetheless16:14
xnox(worth flagging it up to systemd people, even if they simply release note it)16:15
vorlonok; so we can take it for further investigation but we might decline to change the behavior, sure16:15
bdmurraylets go ahead and target and card this one16:16
* vorlon nods16:16
bdmurraybug 185985816:16
ubottubug 1859858 in systemd (Ubuntu Focal) "udev has truncated ID_SERIAL value for scsi disk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185985816:16
bdmurrayThis one is already targetted so I'll card it.16:18
bdmurraybug 186095716:19
ubottubug 1860957 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ZFS installation crash when ESP already exists" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186095716:19
bdmurrayThat should go to the desktop team.16:20
bdmurraybug 184306316:21
ubottubug 1843063 in lshw (Ubuntu) "lshw -json output invalid in Eoan" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184306316:21
bdmurrayLet's land their patch, so I'll target and card it.16:22
xnoxhttps://ezix.org/src/ycheng/lshw/commit/82393aa9b59307a443677df7340a1dd38847a5ef.patch16:23
bdmurrayAlso bug 1860406 is new / undecided16:23
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 1860406 could not be found16:23
bdmurraybug 185040616:23
ubottubug 1850406 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "python3-distupgrade small misprint bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185040616:23
bdmurraythat's the one I meant16:23
bdmurrayI've an upload of u-r-u to do anyway so I'll take that and queue jump with it16:24
bdmurraynothing new in rls-ee-16:24
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html16:25
sil2100BB IS CLOSED16:26
bdmurraybug 1854839 still has work for me16:26
ubottubug 1854839 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Fresh Bionic install hangs forever at 66% waiting for os-prober" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185483916:26
sil2100STOOP16:26
sil2100(just kidding)16:26
bdmurraybug 185656016:27
ubottubug 1856560 in util-linux (Ubuntu) "ds-identify - stuck in uninterruptible sleep state" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185656016:27
bdmurrayWe seem to have talked about this before.16:27
bdmurrayokay, xnox will look at the comments16:28
bdmurray#topic Team proposed-migration report16:28
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bdmurrayvorlon: can you help here?16:29
vorlonack16:29
vorlonpython3.7, python3.8 are entangled in the libffi transition which I'm working through (libffi itself got its migratability reset by a ruby2.7 autopkgtest regression, which I've hinted away again; we're only about 2 packages away from this getting through)16:30
vorlonlibtimedate-perl causing libsoap-wsdl-perl regression, who wants this?16:30
vorlon[LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/focal/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs16:30
vorlonbtw16:30
vorlonxnox: ^^ libtimedate-perl?16:31
vorlonbdmurray: can you take libcgi-pm-perl?16:32
vorlonlibuv1 is figuring out whether to fix or hint i386, so I'll take that unless someone else is keen16:32
vorlonlibffi, glib2.0 are all part of the same deal16:32
juliankaptdaemon: should force-badtest aptdaemon/all/arm64 IMO16:32
vorlonjuliank: ok, I'll assign that to you to follow through on16:33
xnoxvorlon:  are you assigning that to me? ok....16:33
bdmurrayvorlon: okay16:33
vorlonlibgpg-error is another i386 one, would anybody else like to take one of these?16:33
vorloncrickets16:34
vorlonfine, I'll take libgpg-error and libjsoncpp too16:34
dokoopen-iscsi and python-dateutil are in the works16:36
vorlonunattended-upgrades needs an assignee.  doko?16:37
dokowhere do you see this?16:37
vorlondoko: the list that we're going through right now16:38
juliankNo16:38
vorloncan you follow up on unattended-upgrades?16:38
juliankunattended-upgrades we know why it's failing16:38
juliankIt's going to be fixed in a new apt release16:38
vorlonok, that sounds like juliank is claiming it then16:38
juliankyes16:38
vorlonok16:38
juliankJust finalizing the fixes16:38
vorlonlibcap-ng is tied to python3-defaults, which we know the status of16:38
vorlondoko: who is working on open-iscsi and python-dateutil?16:39
vorlon(you said "in the works" but not by who)16:39
dokonobody, they are waiting for the tests to finish16:39
vorlondoko: does that mean you retriggered tests?  since the tests shouldn't have taken 5 days16:39
dokoyes16:40
vorlonif so, I'll consider these yours :)16:40
vorlonpython3-defaults, doko is obviously working on, if other people have time to pitch in as well that would be good (I'll be helping with it but only after I finish libffi)16:40
juliankwooohoo, CI for APT fix just passed16:40
dokoyes, please.16:40
dokoupdate-manager?16:40
vorlonupdate-manager is part of the python3-defaults transition, does it need particular attention?16:41
dokocan we ignore all the tryton stuff?16:41
dokoscheduled for removal in Debian anyway16:41
vorlonignore, no. remove, yes16:41
xnoxwe should kill tryton stuff16:41
xnoxand odoo / openerp / tinyerp too16:41
xnoxOdd_Bloke:  and xnox no longer care about it =)16:41
vorlonwe can follow up on that on #ubuntu-release16:42
vorlongdb vs python?16:42
Odd_Blokexnox: :D16:42
dokoretried16:42
vorlondoko: ok16:42
vorlonsl-modem is more i386, so16:42
bdmurraywhat was retried?16:42
vorlonbdmurray: the python autopkgtest failures with new gdb16:42
bdmurrayokay so update-manager still needs looking at?16:43
vorlonand then p11-kit and talloc are part of the aforementioned transitions16:43
vorloncertainly looks like update-manager needs fixing for python3.816:43
vorlonso it's worth someone taking that one specifically16:44
vorlonbdmurray: ?16:44
bdmurrayI can have a look16:44
vorlonthanks16:44
vorlonand that's all16:44
* juliank just used the big hammer and retried all python-apt triggered-tests that failed16:44
dokoone more, libreoffice/amd64 ftbfs with out-of-dis-space16:44
bdmurray#topic AOB16:45
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dokoore here: one more, libreoffice/amd64 ftbfs with out-of-disk-space16:45
bdmurrayI'm probably gonna end up taking a half day to aid my recovery16:45
dokodesktop is aware16:45
bdmurrayI'm also taking a swap day on Monday16:45
vorlonah I am also off tomorrow16:45
dokoand one more: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/186076316:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1860763 in Auto Package Testing "the image for the autopkg tests has a big python3 stack installed" [Undecided,New]16:46
vorlonI know Laney has commented on the bug16:46
dokoplease can we fix that, especially now with all the python3 stuff going on?16:46
juliankyes16:47
juliankessentially mark everything auto16:47
vorlonpointing out that you'll never have a guarantee that there are no extra packages installed in the test bed16:47
dokovorlon: there's no comment16:47
juliankmark ubuntu-minimal and whitelisted packages manual16:47
juliankthen run autoremove16:47
vorlonoh, it wasn't on the bug16:47
vorlonI saw a reply from him somewher16:47
juliankI think we can do that16:47
LaneyIRC16:47
vorlonright16:47
juliankI think my idea should work, just need to figure out the whitelist16:47
LaneyNo problem with attempting to minimise the testbed, but the point still stands and it could be another package down the line16:48
vorlonit is a reasonable improvement to try to minimize the contents of the testbed image, if for no other reason than it speeds up upgrades16:48
julianksure16:48
vorlonbut also what Laney said16:48
vorlonpackage tests shouldn't misbehave in the presence of extra packages and if they do that's a bug16:48
bdmurrayalright will y'all follow up in the bug?16:48
juliankvorlon: I don't think we have test-conflicts yet, might be useful, idk16:49
vorlonjuliank: that's one way to ensure tests always behave properly, but in the absence of that there's no test that couldn't be fixed (upstream or whatever) to just do what we want in the presence of extra stuff16:50
julianktrue16:50
juliankthe reverse is also true16:51
julianktests could be passing that should be failing because they miss a dependency16:51
vorlonsure, but in both cases you'd have to first discover the difference between testbed implementations and then change the package16:51
vorlonanyway, the bug is valid16:51
vorlonbut I don't think it's high priority, it's really corner-case16:51
bdmurrayokay, anything else?16:53
bdmurrayalrighty then, thanks everybody16:54
bdmurray#endmeeting16:54
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sil2100Thanks o/16:57

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