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didrocksgood morning07:02
dufluMorning didrocks07:04
didrockshey duflu07:06
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers07:29
dufluHi oSoMoN07:29
ricotzgood morning everyone07:32
didrockssalut oSoMoN, hey ricotz07:33
dufluHi ricotz07:35
seb128gooood morning desktoppers and happy friday!08:08
didrockshey seb128, happy Friday08:10
seb128hey didrocks :-)08:12
ricotzmarcustomlinson, ping, please see pm08:25
ricotzhey seb128 didrocks duflu08:25
seb128hey ricotz, how are you?08:26
seb128ricotz, do you need Marcus for a libreoffice issue? can someone else maybe help if he's not around?08:26
ricotzseb128, hi, I am fine, how are you?08:26
seb128I'm good, it's fosdem's friday!08:27
ricotzseb128, he pushed a build to deal for diskspace issue, which seems insufficient08:27
dufluMorning seb128. Happy... Brussels?08:27
ricotzseb128, I have another solution, hopefully better08:27
ricotzseb128, in progress here https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=focal08:28
seb128hey duflu, how is your friday going? getting some success of your gjs improvements? ready for the w.e?08:28
ricotzseb128, oh fosdem :)08:28
dufluseb128, Friday is going well but today upstream has been silent. So that's at least not bad news.08:28
seb128ricotz, ah, good ... I've not followed the details, but why are builds hitting enospace now? toolchain changes?08:28
ricotzseb128, likely, that is a downside of merging the l10n build08:29
ricotzhttps://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/log/?h=wip/ricotz-focal-6.408:29
seb128ricotz, Bjoern is still around or did you resurect some old patch? ;)08:31
ricotzseb128, cherry-picked it08:31
ricotzmarcustomlinson, ping08:31
seb128I see, cool08:31
seb128ricotz, it's a bit early for him I think08:31
seb128or rather I think he's around earlier but then step out and come back a bit later08:32
ricotzseb128, https://launchpad.net/~marcustomlinson/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=focal08:32
seb128duflu, I wonder if we regressed grub, it's not supposed to apply the purple screen/do anything if it's not displaying the menu08:36
seb128duflu, by 'ACPI BGRT changes in the kernel' you mean FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DEFERRED_TAKEOVER=y ?08:37
dufluseb128, I've never seen it not apply the purple screen. Assuming it's the only thing that ever displays a blank purple screen08:37
dufluYes I mentioned that in the same bug :)08:37
seb128it's not applying the purple bg on my xps08:37
seb128well, assuming you use the spinner theme?08:37
dufluseb128, I mean without the flickerfreeboot package installed. Sorry I used the same tag just because it is related08:38
dufluSo no, I do not mean the spinner theme08:38
seb128ah ok08:38
seb128that makes more sense now08:38
dufluJust a plain focal install, and one reboot08:39
seb128btw we decided to switch to spinner by default for focal, at least to evaluate it08:39
dufluThat sounds good and would at least solve that new bug :)08:39
seb128it's not fully flicker free but we still believe it's an improvement08:39
seb128:)08:39
dufluseb128, however it is telling grub to not display a splash screen should probably be done independently in grub though. So the bug does not return in the absence of the plymouth theme08:40
seb128yes, well that's the intend, unsure what's the issue there08:41
dufluseb128, completely separately I think Ubuntu needs a little logo on top of the BGRT08:41
dufluotherwise it looks like a hung BIOS08:42
seb128yes08:42
seb128x_nox was suggesting added the 'ubuntu' logo at the same position than in gdm08:42
seb128adding08:42
seb128bottom of the screen centered08:43
dufluI can't remember but we can debate the perfect position once something is visible08:43
seb128right08:43
dufluIt's a slow graphics path though. So we either want zero animation or a small one08:44
dufluActually, zero. Because it's during kernel boot08:44
dufluAnimation is probably not possible at that time08:44
seb128duflu, the grub patch we are using that I though should avoid the colored background is the most recent commit on https://github.com/jwrdegoede/grub2/commits/for-upstream08:45
seb128anyway, bugs that we should probalby polish before the LTS08:45
duflu👍08:46
seb128duflu, I created https://trello.com/c/aa3X88QY/118-plymouth-boot-improvements08:49
dufluseb128, maybe deduplicate with https://trello.com/c/FiGczlI008:50
seb128duflu, fair point, let me add the reference/checklist to that one08:51
seb128duflu, k, updated08:52
marcustomlinsonmorning desktoppers09:11
dufluMorning marcustomlinson09:11
marcustomlinsonquestion (to whoever sees it first): can a package in main recommend a package in universe? Or is that still too strict a dependancy?09:12
seb128hey marcustomlinson, how are you?09:12
seb128marcustomlinson, you should lower to a suggest iirc09:13
dufluYeah I guess, because recommendations get automatically installed09:14
duflu?09:14
marcustomlinsonI'm doing ok seb128 thanks. Still recovering, but at least it's friday09:14
seb128duflu, right, they don't fail installation if they are missing but that would give inconsistent behaviour depending of your activated sources09:15
marcustomlinsonhmm, so if the package doesn't have to be installed but does help significantly, it can be from universe?09:17
marcustomlinsonto be clear here, I'm wondering if LibreOffice can recommend fonts from universe09:18
seb128marcustomlinson, no09:19
seb128main package need to have their recommends in main09:19
seb128so either you need to MIR those or to lower the recommends to a suggests09:19
marcustomlinsonok that's a clearer answer :)09:20
marcustomlinsonthanks seb12809:20
seb128np09:20
seb128if the fonts are specifics to a locale you might be able to make the languages-selector support pull them in when enabling the said language09:21
marcustomlinsonricotz: I was working outside of IRC hours ;)09:31
hellsworthgood morning desktopers15:21
marcustomlinsonhey hellsworth15:22
hellswortho/ marcustomlinson !15:22
diddledanwho knows mesa? I'm onto a new crash when using Indirect GLX, which seems specific to the client application I'm running - glxgears runs fine without causing this issue, as does supertuxkart (albeit with graphical abberations in STK's case because it expects newer opengl): https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cqrqq4FZWD/17:07
diddledanthe application code I'm experimenting with can be gathered from https://github.com/irixxxx/igl.git17:09
diddledanspecifically any of the examples17:09
diddledanmake sure you don't have anything important open/unsaved if you attempt this, because it WILL kill your Xorg :-p (you also need Xorg compiled from the debdiffs in LP #177644717:11
ubot5Launchpad bug 1776447 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg's Indirect GLX broken from upstream regression" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177644717:11
diddledanthis doesn't appear to be a regression from those debdiffs, just an unmasking17:11
tjaaltontry #dri-devel18:01
diddledanthanks :-)18:05
kenvandinediddledan: good news, soon we'll have gtk2-common-themes for arm64 and armhf :)20:01
kenvandinediddledan: and i'm submitting a PR that fixes the gtk theme if you set it to use the system theme20:02
kenvandinegimp that is20:02
diddledan\o/20:02
diddledantjaalton, it might be a stack overflow somehow runaway recursion20:18
kenvandinediddledan: getting a weird issue trying to build gimp20:49
kenvandineIssues while validating properties: Specified icon 'gimp.png' does not exist20:50
kenvandinethat line in the yaml hasn't changed in nearly 2 years20:50
diddledanis the icon there?20:50
kenvandineit's in the top level dir20:51
diddledanshould be in the root of the repo, yeah20:51
kenvandinehmm20:52
kenvandinea second run and it is working20:52
diddledanodd20:55
kenvandinediddledan: https://github.com/snapcrafters/gimp/pull/9721:09
gitbotsnapcrafters issue (Pull request) 97 in gimp "Set necessary env for system gtk themes to work and clean up content interfaces" [Open]21:09
kenvandinediddledan: this does revert one of your commits, but we should have gtk2-common-themes for all supported arches by early next week21:09
kenvandinewe can wait for that before merging this, but comments would be appreciated21:10
kenvandinediddledan: once this PR is merged, we'll get all the arches https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gtk2-common-themes/merge_requests/121:39
gitbotUbuntu issue (Merge request) 1 in gtk2-common-themes "Updated to build with bionic" [Opened]21:39
kenvandinediddledan: what's gtk3 in gimp?21:57
diddledannothing directly, but there might be plugins that want to use GTK3. also if I were to add darktable that definitely is GTK321:58
kenvandinegtk2 and gtk3 use different env variables21:59
kenvandineso shouldn't clobber each other21:59
diddledanI could only find GTK_PATH applied to both21:59
kenvandinehow can i verify that i didn't break gtk3 in gimp?21:59
diddledanGTK_EXE_PREFIX allows both to coexist without setting GTK_PATH21:59
diddledanGTK_EXE_PREFIX simply requires that gtk-2.0 and gtk-3.0 exist at /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib/$SNAPCRAFT_ARCH_TRIPLET22:01
kenvandineok, i'll look at this some more later on22:01
kenvandineat least glimpse-editor looks much better now :)22:02
kenvandinehttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bvJt1cPG/Screenshot%20from%202020-01-31%2013-23-37.png22:02
diddledanlines 167 thru 171 do the moving about - as we're now using gtk-engines we might need a bit more than a simple symlink - maybe a dir with symlinks inside22:02
diddledannice :-)22:03
kenvandinei look more carefully at gimp and make sure my fix doesn't break gtk322:03
kenvandinenone of the gtk3 stuff is in the glimpse snap, so simpler case22:03
diddledanaye22:03
kenvandinegimp does looks great with my branch though :)22:04
kenvandinebut i probably busted something else22:04
diddledanI'm not currently using gtk3 but I was mulling adding darktable into it because people keep moaning they can't use darktable and gimp snap together :-)22:04
kenvandinediddledan: actually, if we move the GTK_PATH to environment under the app it wouldn't effect darktable22:10
kenvandineright now it snap global22:10
kenvandinebut if we move it to the apps section, gimp and darktable could have separate env22:11
diddledangood point22:11
diddledanalthough, I don't know if they can launch each other in addition to talking to eachother?22:12

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