[00:00] <FaTaL_G> Last night I was doing the occasional apt update & upgrade... sometimes I use webmin... Well, since that action, I keep getting a cronjob message "Another instance is running with the same action"
[00:01] <DSdavidDS> oerheks: thanks for remembering but nope! This is a completely unrelated system xP
[00:01] <FaTaL_G> I rebooted, and I looked at the actually jobs, cant see anything that is running it
[00:01] <DSdavidDS> my preseeded ubuntu install ended up great ;]
[00:04] <DSdavidDS> I think this has to do with an nvidea driver I installed..
[00:09] <znf> Hi. I'm trying to set up an older Ubuntu version in an LXC Container running on 18.04 - mainly, I need an older version for some legacy tools/hardware which are isolated in a network - when I do: lxc-create -t download -n name -- I obviously can't find 12.04 in the list and can't either enter it manually; is there another way to do this?
[00:13] <sarnold> znf: hmm I'm not finding any old images..
[00:13] <sarnold> znf: but the 12.04 install media can be found on http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.4/
[00:13] <znf> I did find some template on Proxmox for 12.04, I'm gonna try something stupid, maybe it works
[00:14] <sarnold> znf: oho, cloud images http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/precise/current/
[00:15] <znf> Oh. Nice.
[00:17] <znf> but how do I actually use them
[00:18] <tomreyn> the latest non cloud installer iso for this EOL release would be at http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.5/
[00:18] <znf> I don't really want an ISO tough, that would complicate things, I just want an lxc container
[00:19] <DSdavidDS> wedr: I looked through the apt/history.log and saw some changes to python3 but those were basic installs likeke pip and usb libraries
[00:19] <sarnold> a cloud image might be easier to use with lxd than lxc; lxd took a more image-centric approach
[00:20] <znf> can't say I've used lxd at all, to be honest
[00:20] <sarnold> tomreyn: wow I didn't expect that. :) I was a bit surprised by just the .4, I should have looked harder. thanks.
[00:21] <znf> eh, I'll just do lxd, I guess
[00:21] <adrian_1908> znf: I think with 12.04 you're really out of luck. 14.04 seems like a universal cutoff threshold, even in Docker.
[00:22] <znf> I see https://uk.images.linuxcontainers.org/ lists ubuntu trusty
[00:22] <znf> same as the other thing
[00:23] <adrian_1908> Yup
[00:23] <tomreyn> sarnold: you're welcome :)
[00:24] <adrian_1908> znf: I take it a VM is out of the question and you want to run something light persistently?
[00:24] <znf> adrian_1908, that's exactly the reason
[00:25] <tomreyn> hd-media may work http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/
[00:25] <znf> I mostly need it to ssh under some old devices under a specific subnet, which newer ssh clients kind of fail me to log on
[00:26] <znf> so instead of trying to figure out the crypto-settings for each and every one of them, I just want to use a proxcommand via this older host
[00:29] <znf> like, I do have an image that proxmox uses with LXC -- http://download.proxmox.com/images/system/ubuntu-12.04-standard_12.04-1_amd64.tar.gz
[00:29] <znf> wonder if I can just migrate ne
[00:29] <znf> one
[00:30] <sarnold> oh nice
[00:35] <FaTaL_G> I dont get it.... theres only two users with cronjobs, and my email is filling up with "Another instance is running with the same action" messages for cron mail: "/usr/bin/ntopng-utils-manage-updates -a handle-upgrade-requests"
[00:36] <FaTaL_G> but there isnt anything running
[00:37] <sarnold> the usual problem is that a run from one minute, hour, day, week, etc ago is still running
[00:37] <sarnold> these tools can help http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/run-one.1.html
[00:38] <FaTaL_G> sarnold, thanks, but there is no ntopng job
[00:39] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: hm. maybe it left behind a .pid file or similar?
[00:40] <FaTaL_G> would that actually continue sending mails?
[00:40] <sarnold> it depends upon how ntopng-utils-manage-updates is written
[00:42] <FaTaL_G> there isn't even a rule for it
[00:42] <FaTaL_G> theres me, and there is root
[00:42] <FaTaL_G> for users
[00:42] <Scriptonaut> what is the correct way to permanently set this value: /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
[00:42] <Scriptonaut> I want to set it to 'never'
[00:42] <Scriptonaut> in ubuntu 18.04
[00:43] <sarnold> Scriptonaut: I'd use a file in /etc/sysctl.d/ -- check out the README in that directory
[00:43] <Scriptonaut> ok thank you
[00:43] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: hmm. but cron is still executing it periodically?
[00:44] <hggdh> usually /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf is a symlink to /etc/sysctl.conf
[00:46] <FaTaL_G> sarnold, yup... every 2-5 minutes
[00:46] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: check /etc/cron* as well
[00:46] <sarnold> not all crons are user crontabs
[00:52] <FaTaL_G> sarnold, you're right
[00:52] <FaTaL_G> and I'm thinking they goofed up
[00:53] <FaTaL_G> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cX48b8nwHV/
[00:54] <sarnold> EVERY MINUTE
[00:54] <sarnold> man
[00:54] <FaTaL_G> lol
[00:55] <FaTaL_G> I didnt write that rule
[00:55] <FaTaL_G> how do I notify them or the ubuntu packagers?
[00:55] <FaTaL_G> I did a apt-get update && upgrade
[00:56] <FaTaL_G> and this was what happened afterwards lol
[00:58] <Scriptonaut> sarnold: I looked in the readme, I'm having trouble figuring out the sysctl.conf variable name for /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
[00:59] <Scriptonaut> would it just be kernel.mm.transparent_hugepage.enabled? Or would it have sys on the front?
[00:59] <Scriptonaut> seems like a lot of people use sysfsutils to modify those values
[01:00] <sarnold> Scriptonaut: arghs :( I'm sorry. :( I should have looked first. I'm so accustomed to kernel tweakables having both sysctl and filesystem interfaces that I didn't look first :(
[01:00] <Scriptonaut> oh no problem, thanks anyways
[01:01] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: dpkg -S /etc/cron.d/ntopng  ought to report which package owns it, ubuntu-bug <packagename> ought to file a bug report
[01:03] <znf> sarnold, made it work, had to work around a bit with /etc/subuid and /get/subgid and some other stuff, but it's running
[01:03] <sarnold> znf: nice!
[01:19] <FaTaL_G> sarnold, apparently Im not running the official ubuntu one. I'll have to go to ntopng site. I bought a license and all that jazz
[01:19] <sarnold> FaTaL_G: oooo cool
[01:20] <FaTaL_G> :)
[01:33] <gambl0re> if i have TLP installed do i still to use Powertop?
[01:42] <oerheks> no, don't mix them.
[01:42] <oerheks> i prefer tlp
[02:48] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to remove a directory that's supposed to be empty, but it won't remove. Running `ls` on this directory returns "Input/output error". OS is Ubuntu 19.10, filesystem is ntfs-3g. Unmounting/remounting the filesystem does not change the problem, neither does rebooting. Any thoughts?
[02:51] <sarnold> check dmesg
[02:51] <sarnold> IO error can sometimes be a dying hard drive
[02:53] <BlueProtoman> sarnold: What should I be looking for, specifically?
[02:53] <sarnold> BlueProtoman: near the end, the SCSI errors have a bunch of { } kinds of things in it
[02:53] <sarnold> somehow they have a flavour that nothing else has
[02:59] <BlueProtoman> sarnold: Nothing looks like a SCSI error. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YVHSGqSBZd
[03:00] <sarnold> well, that's good for your hard drives anyway :)
[03:00] <BlueProtoman> I should hope so, it's an SSD
[03:01] <BlueProtoman> Also, the file system is not giving me any other problems. It mounted in r/w mode, as expected (ntfs-3g mounts in read-only if it detects an error)
[03:04] <sarnold> hrm :/ I'm out of ideas, sorry
[03:05] <Sven_vB> looks like I haven't properly closed my LUKS before withdrawing the external harddrive. now I have loop devices in /dev/mapper that I can't "cryptsetup close" because the device is still busy, my kernel thinks. how to recover?
[03:05] <BlueProtoman> sarnold: Thank you anyway.
[03:06] <sarnold> BlueProtoman: maybe a disk check in windows?
[03:06] <Sven_vB> BlueProtoman, have you checked fuser?
[03:06] <BlueProtoman> Sven_vB: Yes. No results.
[03:16] <Sven_vB> solution for my hanging LUKS: for D in /dev/mapper/vg_*; do sudo dmsetup remove $D; done
[03:17] <sarnold> oh nice, thanks
[04:13] <diezl> hi all-can anyone suggest a way to view ram and cpu specs dynamically running ubuntu 19.04 desktop
[04:14] <nCoV_fren> CPU monitor?
[04:14] <sarnold> free -g and cat /proc/cpuinfo are my usual tools
[04:17] <diezl> nice thank you
[04:17] <drecondius> can someone help me figure out why retroarch is showing that it's missing glx but stuff like dota, and Dark Souls 3 runs?
[04:19] <drecondius> It shows X Error: GLXBadContext, Request Major code 151 (GLX), Request Minor code 6 (), Error Serial #58, Current Serial #57
[04:22] <drecondius> Also 2 libGL errors, this is ubuntu 19.10 and it's the snap install
[04:25] <sarnold> drecondius: there's a link to contact the authors on https://snapcraft.io/retroarch
[04:25] <sarnold> drecondius: that's probably your best bet
[05:24] <smacktalk> my laptop wouldn't boot...gives me some systemctl error
[05:24] <smacktalk> anyone know how to fix that?
[05:25] <smacktalk> I'm totally jonesing for my laptop
[05:28] <smacktalk> or do I have to reinstall my os and overwrite everything
[05:29] <ryuo> smacktalk: rescue shell?
[05:43] <smacktalk> ryuo I don't know how to to my rescue shell?
[05:44] <ryuo> smacktalk: i was asking if it's the rescue shell. booting from live cd is probably worth checking out.
[05:48] <smacktalk> Ryuo, I don't get a command prompt
[05:49] <ryuo> smacktalk: so what does it do?
[05:49] <smacktalk> it starts going through all the system checks....all <ok>
[05:49] <smacktalk> then stops in the middle of all that and give me some systemctl error
[05:50] <ryuo> X never comes up?
[05:50] <smacktalk> no command prompt
[05:50] <smacktalk> no, doesn't finish booting
[05:50] <ryuo> try ctrl-alt-f2
[05:50] <ryuo> does that do anything?
[05:51] <smacktalk> nope
[05:54] <smacktalk> I went intothe reco9very menu and got the root prompt
[05:54] <smacktalk> i can also get to grub
[06:01] <ryuo> smacktalk: i would check your drive SMART.
[06:02] <smacktalk> tried to google that...funny result
[06:02] <ryuo> smacktalk: see smartctl
[06:03] <smacktalk> Thanks ryuo, it's 10PM here...gotta ccatch some z's
[06:04] <smacktalk> I'll check that out first thing tomorrow
[06:05] <ryuo> smacktalk: well, unexplained boot failures are sometimes due to failing storage devices.
[06:06] <ryuo> smacktalk: if it's no longer working correctly, anything can happen.
[06:06] <smacktalk> that makes sense
[06:06] <ryuo> alternatively a configuration change or kernel or other regression
[06:06] <ryuo> can be at fault
[06:07] <smacktalk> I used the command sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda  and it said smartctl isn't a command
[06:09] <ryuo> smacktalk: smartmontools has to be installed first.
[06:09] <EriC^^> smacktalk: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[06:09] <smacktalk> did tht, it says unable to fetch some archives
[06:09] <smacktalk> fails
[06:10] <EriC^^> smacktalk: try sudo apt-get update , it might help
[06:10] <ryuo> probably won't work for single user mode
[06:10] <ryuo> from*
[06:11] <EriC^^> oh
[06:11] <EriC^^> he's in recovery mode?
[06:11] <ryuo> yes
[06:11] <smacktalk> I guess the recovery console doesn't have access to the network
[06:11] <ryuo> i was suggesting to try from live cd
[06:11] <smacktalk> I am at a root prompt
[06:11] <smacktalk> oh! gotcha
[06:11] <smacktalk> great idea
[06:12] <EriC^^> wait
[06:12] <EriC^^> smacktalk: in the root shell, exit from it, then go to "enable networking" then drop to root shell again
[06:12] <EriC^^> maybe you can upload the log of the last boot from there as well to hone in on the problem
[06:14] <smacktalk> yes, that worked much better!
[06:20] <EriC^^> smacktalk: try "cat /var/log/{boot.log,syslog} | nc termbin.com 9999"
[06:20] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you here
[08:01] <littlekimmy> if I use compile, what's the way to know of  the variable compilation-ask-about-auto-save; I forgot it's name and need to always look up in notes for emacs
[08:59] <littlekimmy> ya, I don't have ip cmd installed, so to find that apt search ip ?
[08:59] <littlekimmy> but list is too big
[09:04] <al2o3-cr> littlekimmy: the package is iproute2
[09:51] <conjo> hi e1-im running ubuntu 19.04 and would like to install conky;not well versed does anyone know if i can trust the following repo "sudo apt add-tepository -y ppa:teekee2008/2008/ppa?
[09:51] <conjo> or how i should go about checking if a repo is trustworthy eb board or sites that have a list of known good/bads
[09:52] <conjo> *eb=eg
[10:05] <diskin> diezl, hi, isn't conky available in standard repos?
[10:09] <diskin> aah, it's 1.10.8 in repos, and the latest is 1.11.5. perhaps it is better to build one from source...
[10:13] <notwebdev> Hi. I've installed a LAMP stack with PHP-FPM. I wish to create a (ftp)user that can only view the www directory and it's items. The user should also have full permissions on files created by PHP. Apache and the ftp user shares a group. The ftp user owns the directory. Right now PHP can only write to folders with 0777 permissions. I'd like to allow PHP file access with 0775 permissions. Do I
[10:13] <notwebdev> need to modify the php user, or something else?
[10:16] <ryuo> notwebdev: by default the ubuntu php-fpm will be run with www-data user/group... perhaps that could be leveraged?
[10:16] <ryuo> i normally use www-data as the group for web directories on simple installs.
[10:16] <ryuo> where i don't need to do heavy user isolation
[10:17] <ryuo> notwebdev: also, you could consider using SFTP instead of FTP. it uses the existing ssh service, requiring no new services to function.
[10:22] <notwebdev> I just retraced my steps, and it seems I didn't add www-data to the shared group. I think I got it working now :) I'll go with SFTP instead, thanks!
[10:25] <diezl> diskin, solved the issue asked around about the repo in question, to answer your question im not sure but i suspect the answer is yes
[10:26] <diskin> diezl, thanks!
[10:27] <diezl> thank you for replying to me =)
[12:27] <mr_lou> I need to make a symbolic link on a USB. I've done this many times before, but now all of the sudden I'm not permitted?
[12:27] <mr_lou> ln -s / mylink
[12:30] <mr_lou> Ah, wait. Filesystem probably.
[13:23] <pc_magas> Hello I moves /var/lib/snapd into /home/snapd and symlinked back, but the snapd deamon fails to start.
[13:24] <pc_magas> The reason I did thas was the lack of space on the partition that /var was mounted.
[13:24] <pc_magas> More Info I explain into https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/moved-var-lib-snapd-into-home-snapd-and-symlicked-back-snaps-fail-to-start/15272
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:41] <cybertruck2077> guys please help, I'm going crazy
[13:41] <cybertruck2077> https://pastebin.com/CLwFSbu7
[13:42] <cybertruck2077> It's a tiny script, but I keep getting error line 4: date: command not found
[13:49] <ioria> cybertruck2077, maybe you want curHour=$(date +%H)   or curHour=`date +%H`  not   curHour='date +%H' (same for the other cmd)
[13:49] <cybertruck2077> ok thank you
[13:51] <cybertruck2077> ioria, now it says: line 4: [2: command not found
[13:51] <cybertruck2077> , weird
[13:52] <ioria> cybertruck2077,  if [[  "$curHour" -gt 2 ]] && [[  "$lsCheck"  -lt 16 ]]
[13:53] <cybertruck2077> ioria, THANKS!!!!
[13:53] <ioria> ok
[15:20] <kdmiller> I have a fresh copy of Ubuntu 18.04 Workstation installed and updated connected to a bridged port, I changed to my static ip using the setting and no connection to internet now
[15:22] <tieinv> did you restart
[15:23] <kdmiller> yup
[15:23] <tieinv> o
[15:23] <kdmiller> ifconfig show the right info
[15:34] <fuze> (kubuntu 19.10 64 bit) i removed nvidia drivers and im using noveou but desktop effects arent working and my second monitor is black. how can i fix?
[15:34] <dreamscape> hey all I'm trying to install wifi drivers but i can't seem to get it to work?? i get this error https://pastebin.com/Kcr3LR98
[17:10] <cybertruck2077> hey guys, what's the room for off-topic Ubuntu discussion?
[17:13] <mrsideways> is there a tool I should use to make a windows 10 installer using ubuntu? I am using ubuntu but I want to put the windows 10 iso on a usb to install on my media center pc, do i use a tool or just extract to fat32 usb with ark?
[17:23] <jeremy31> mrsideways: woeusb
[17:23] <mrsideways> thank you jeremy31
[17:46] <vlt> Hello everyone!  From the first print job on (after I log in to a fresh Ubuntu MATE desktop session) I get to see *all* of the CUPS notifications from *all* users (including document titles). How can I stop this?
[17:51] <SoulMan404> Hello All, how do I check which process is running in a certain port?
[17:52] <SoulMan404> Basically I neeed to kill it
[18:03] <mrsideways> jeremy31, does woeusb install for uefi or only i386?
[18:03] <jeremy31> mrsideways: I am not sure
[18:04] <mrsideways> I'm just going to create the usb with a win7 vm
[18:05] <mrsideways> because this won't uefi boot, and i think it's because it had to use ntfs(fat32 supplied error that one file was too big)
[18:09] <afidegnum> i had ctags and exhuberant-ctags installed but ctags -R returns empty and i also have an error of Couldn't find 'ctags' executable! Searched for executables with names: ["exuberant-ctags"]. Is 'ctags' correctly installed?
[18:09] <ducasse> mrsideways: uefi won't boot from ntfs, you're right there
[18:10] <ducasse> afidegnum: have you tried reinstalling the package?
[18:10] <afidegnum> yes,
[18:11] <afidegnum> but no success
[18:12] <ducasse> afidegnum: what's the package name?
[18:12] <afidegnum> exhuberant-ctags
[18:13] <ducasse> try 'dpkg -L exhuberant-ctags' to see which files it installs
[18:13] <afidegnum> ok
[18:14] <ioria> !info exhuberant-ctags
[18:14] <ioria> it's a snap then
[18:14] <afidegnum> ioria: i'm using ubuntu 18.04 installed via apt
[18:14] <ioria> !info exhuberant-ctags bionic
[18:15] <afidegnum> dpkg -L exhuberant-ctags
[18:15] <afidegnum> dpkg-query: package 'exhuberant-ctags' is not installed
[18:15] <ducasse> no snap with that name, where is this from?
[18:15] <afidegnum> and apt gave me the impression of it being installed
[18:15] <ioria> ducasse, snap is 'universal-ctags'
[18:15] <ducasse> ack
[18:16] <jeremy31> !info exuberant-ctags bionic
[18:16] <ioria> lol
[18:16] <ducasse> spelling is hard :)
[18:17] <BigBrothyr> where can I find sent error reports? every time I boot up, I get an error window and only a 'send report' or 'cancel' and now view option.
[18:17] <ioria> lost my sight with tshark logs
[18:17] <oerheks> !whoopsy
[18:17] <oerheks> hmm not a factoid
[18:18] <afidegnum>  dpkg -L exuberant-ctags
[18:18] <afidegnum> /.
[18:18] <afidegnum> /usr
[18:18] <afidegnum> /usr/share
[18:18] <afidegnum> /usr/share/doc
[18:18] <afidegnum> /usr/share/doc/exuberant-ctags
[18:19] <afidegnum> hi
[18:19] <tomreyn> !paste | afidegnum
[18:20] <tomreyn> and hi, too
[18:20] <afidegnum> ok
[18:20] <afidegnum> so exuberant ctags is installed but not working
[18:21] <oerheks> BigBrothyr, crash reposrts are in;  ls -l /var/crash/   but the whoopsie report is not human readable
[18:22] <BigBrothyr> would be nice to know why it's only started recently. no new installs.
[18:23] <tomreyn> oerheks / BigBrothyr: apport-unpack can make them readable
[18:26] <afidegnum> any insight ?
[18:27] <ioria> afidegnum, ls /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
[18:27] <afidegnum> /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant
[18:27] <ioria> run that
[18:29] <afidegnum> it returns empty
[18:32] <ducasse> afidegnum: 'echo $?'
[18:32] <afidegnum> it returned $
[18:32] <tomreyn> BigBrothyr: how to view your reports: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts/blob/master/whoopsie_reports
[18:33] <tomreyn> you only get access to a listing, though, not the details, i think
[18:33] <BigBrothyr> thanks.
[18:34] <tomreyn> BigBrothyr: i can maybe tell you a relevant bug report if you tell me one or two of the links this overview points to.
[18:34] <tomreyn> feel free to pm
[18:37] <ioria> afidegnum, i suggest to remove that pkg, and try the snap version : https://snapcraft.io/universal-ctags
[18:37] <BigBrothyr> _usr_sbin_lightdm.0.crash _usr_lib_gvfs_gvfsd-smb-browse.1000.crash
[18:38] <BigBrothyr> but... these are dated, jan 25 and 28 nothing from today or past startups that would give reason for an error window every time.
[18:39] <BigBrothyr> wait, what's 'total 1420' mean? 1,420 errors?
[18:42] <afidegnum> ioria: i'm still having the issue
[18:43] <ioria> afidegnum, ctags is found now ?
[18:43] <afidegnum> yes but my system still bugs
[18:44] <afidegnum> rusty-tags emacs
[18:44] <afidegnum> Couldn't find 'ctags' executable! Searched for executables with names: ["exuberant-ctags"]. Is 'ctags' correctly installed?
[18:46] <ioria> afidegnum, mmm,   run 'hash -r' and try again with  sudo snap connect universal-ctags:dot-ctags
[18:47] <afidegnum> no luck
[18:50] <ioria> afidegnum, maybe you just needed to link /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant to ctags .. idk sy
[18:51] <afidegnum> ok,
[18:51] <afidegnum> what's the command?
[18:52] <ducasse> 'sudo ln -s /usr/bin/ctags-exuberant /usr/bin/ctags'
[18:53] <ducasse> dunno if it'll help
[18:53] <afidegnum> ln: failed to create symbolic link '/usr/bin/ctags': File exists
[18:54] <afidegnum> there is an existing symlink
[18:54] <afidegnum> how do i find out the source of the link,?
[18:55] <ducasse> 'readlink /usr/bin/ctags'
[18:56] <afidegnum> /etc/alternatives/ctags
[19:00] <ioria> afidegnum, update-alternatives --display ctags
[19:04] <afidegnum> ioria: ?
[19:04] <ioria> afidegnum, does it return something ?
[19:10] <afidegnum> ioria: https://dpaste.org/gUFC
[19:11] <ioria> afidegnum, looks fine to me
[19:15] <ioria> apart from this : /usr/bin/ctags26
[19:17] <afidegnum> ok
[19:17] <afidegnum> let me hold on for a little
[19:39] <ioria> afidegnum, i don't understand where you took  that 'ctags26'  from (also with higher priority)
[19:39] <Mrbuck> hi, right click works with 2 fingers touch why this?
[19:39] <Mrbuck> not with single fonger
[19:39] <Mrbuck> finger*
[19:52] <ioria> afidegnum, a from here maybe emacs26 (26.3~1.git96dd019-kk1+18.04)
[19:54] <quesker> how can I add a permanent static route?  the single interface uses dhcp.  I don't have /etc/network/interfaces
[19:55] <quesker> (server 19)
[19:55] <ducasse> !yy.mm
[19:56] <quesker> if you are doing major changes to simple networking between minor revisions then well that is just dumb
[19:56] <quesker> but 19.10 if it helps
[19:56] <ducasse> we mostly care because 19.04 is eol
[19:57] <quesker> ah ok
[19:57] <ducasse> are you using netplan?
[19:57] <quesker> I don't know what netplan is so I don't think so
[19:57] <quesker> just default install
[19:57] <ducasse> networking was set up by the installer?
[19:57] <ioria> deafult install uses netplan
[19:58] <quesker> I don't remember specifying anything about net but if I did I chose dhcp
[19:58] <ioria> quesker, ls /etc/netplan
[19:58] <quesker> 50-cloud-init.yaml
[19:59] <ioria> you set what you want in there
[19:59] <quesker> ok thanks
[19:59] <openface> Command 'pwsh' is available in '/snap/bin/pwsh'
[19:59] <ducasse> there are plenty examples at netplan.io, quesker
[20:00] <mcseccne> my /etc/netplan displays 01-netcfg.yaml
[20:02] <quesker> this is crazy.  I will manually add the route when I reboot
[20:03] <ioria> mcseccne, that is a cloud image , yours is regular server
[20:03] <quesker> so being in a vm makes it think it is cloud?
[20:03] <quesker> I guess that's all cloud really is
[20:03] <mcseccne> ah Ic thank you newbie here just trying to learn
[20:05] <mcseccne> yes i have a server and I have managed to configure dns ntp apache2 and working on nfs but its giving me some issues
[20:06] <mcseccne> when i get brave enough ill setup postfix doesnt seem to bad
[20:09] <quesker> ok I actually figured out the syntax.  whew
[20:09] <quesker> found an example on that netplan.io     thanks
[20:10] <ioria> quesker, probably it will work, maybe not; i remember you need to disable network configuration by cloud-init
[20:11] <mcseccne> @quesker syntax whew...hahaha i hear you
[20:11] <quesker> so I need a 10.10.10.0/24 route, then my vpn adds a 10.0.0.0/8 to tun0.  that is fine for a while then the /24 route just disappears.  fun stuff
[20:12] <quesker> it worked through a reboot so hopefully it stays
[20:13] <quesker> that netplan stuff I mean
[20:13] <ioria> ok
[20:19] <thenori> Hi everyone! Ever since I installed poetry, I've been getting a strange error message on login. I was wondering if y'all could help!
[20:19] <thenori> https://photos.app.goo.gl/8cBGxmtyfzGkb5aZ8
[20:20] <thenori> https://github.com/thenorili/01dotfiles/blob/master/.profile
[20:30] <openface> how to install powershell in ubuntu
[20:31] <thenori> @openface google powershell for linux
[20:32] <oerheks> powershell, if you *really* want this blob:  https://snapcraft.io/powershell
[20:35] <ioria> thenori, no idea what that poetry is : but run  'diff  /etc/skel/ ~/.profile'
[20:35] <ioria> thenori, sy,  diff  /etc/skel/.profile  ~/.profile
[20:36] <thenori> https://bpaste.net/QJAQ
[20:37] <thenori> What's the significance of this, ioria?
[20:38] <kreyren> How can i flash VBIOS on ubuntu?
[20:38] <ioria> thenori, your original .profile has been modified:   if you want to restore it, you can backup your  /home/$USER/.profile  and copy over  /etc/skel/.profile
[20:39] <oerheks> kreyren, there is a wiki, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate
[20:39] <oerheks> !info fwupdate
[20:40] <oerheks> also fwupdate, https://itsfoss.com/update-firmware-ubuntu/
[20:40] <thenori> Could you clarify what exactly that would do, ioria? The modifications to my ~/.profile are all purposeful as far as I'm aware, I'm just looking for the reason behind this error.
[20:41] <ioria> thenori, the reason is that those modifications are not compatible with your system settings (probably)
[20:43] <thenori> I'm hesitant to revert all modifications to my .profile when I'm still unsure of the nature of the error.
[20:44] <kreyren> oerheks, BIOS != VBIOS
[20:44] <thenori> I'm not even sure what the error implies.
[20:44] <ioria> thenori, why don't you ask to the 'poetry' maintainer ?
[20:44] <kreyren> this is for GPU VBIOS
[20:44] <oerheks> maybe you need to sdjust to python3, https://github.com/python-poetry/poetry/issues/1543
[20:44] <oerheks> kreyren, check the vendor and the wiki, if there is no solution; install windows?
[20:45] <kreyren> oerheks, installing windows is not an option
[20:45] <oerheks> one could do that without register, iso download is free on the wondows pages.
[20:45] <kreyren> vendor provides atiflash which doesn't work
[20:46] <oerheks> then .. no, not on ubuntu??
[20:46] <ducasse> kreyren: you only need windows pe to run most flash utils, try hiren's boot cd or similar
[20:47] <oerheks> did you check out fwupdate? i might cover the videobios too.. i would install windows for this.
[20:47] <kreyren> oerheks, link?
[20:47] <oerheks> huh?
[20:47] <oerheks> read back please
[20:47] <kreyren> on fwupdate ?
[20:52] <kreyren> fwupdate doesn't seem to support VBIOS
[20:53] <thenori> Thank you so much oerheks!
[20:54] <ducasse> kreyren: good chance you need windows for this
[20:55] <oerheks> thenori, have fun!
[20:55] <Croran> How do I change the Ubuntu background at the first login screen? It's currently the 'beaver' logo.
[20:58] <oerheks> Croran, lock screen setting is in  gnome-tweak-tool,but that is different from loginscreen IIRC , see  https://vitux.com/how-to-change-login-lock-screen-background-in-ubuntu/
[20:58] <Croran> I've already got the lock screen set the way I want it.
[20:58] <Croran> The only one that is wrong is the initial login screen.
[20:59] <kreyren> ducasse, using windows is not an option i need this functionality on linux
[20:59] <ducasse> kreyren: why? do you need to do it often?
[21:00] <oerheks> wait for an update in fwupdate..
[21:00] <oerheks> this is the best info i have
[21:00] <Croran> I found an 'ask ubuntu' answer that says to change to root and overwrite /usr/share/background/warty-final-ubuntu.png with my own preferred image.  I'm sure there must be an officially supported way that doesn't require overwriting read-only system files.
[21:00] <kreyren> ducasse, yes
[21:01] <oerheks> Croran, are you sure? why did you not find it then?
[21:01] <kreyren> oerheks, are you sure that this is done using fwupdate on linux>?
[21:01] <oerheks> lolz
[21:01] <kreyren> i could contribute to that i guess
[21:01] <oerheks> kreyren, yes, this tool, linux wide, is the replacement for the need of windows
[21:02] <ducasse> kreyren: the vendor would need to get it into fwupdate, you can't
[21:02] <mrsideways> so earlier I asked how to make windows 10 install usb from ubuntu, after trying many programs that didn't work, I just used dd and it worked properly
[21:02] <oerheks> this is the github project https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd
[21:02] <mrsideways> just saying my solution incase anyone else wants to do this
[21:04] <guntbert_> mrsideways: thx for reporting back
[21:04] <oerheks> .. just dd the windows iso .. never worked for me, mkusb or just normal on a windows machine itself works.
[21:06] <Croran> ok. seems like an ugly hack to change something that even the most novice and technical users have a good reason to change.
[21:06] <Croran> novice and non-technical*
[21:17] <wedr> Isn't the official way to overwrite system files is to be a root user?
[21:17] <wedr> Technically, nothing is higher than root user.
[21:17] <wedr> Unless you're telling me that a root user is actually a lower-level super admin user in the Linux ecosystem.....
[21:18] <wedr> And there may be trunk user, branch user, and leaf user... all higher than root user.
[21:24] <ducasse> wedr: if you disregard things like selinux, root can do anything
[21:25] <wedr> Then that root user should be obliged to modify system file as they please.
[21:25] <ducasse> are you unable to?
[21:34] <p0a> Hello how can I check whether my tex install is full or not?
[21:34] <p0a> I had a full tex install but after upgrading to 19.10 it seems I no longer have tikzcd...
[21:36] <roboto79> i am trying to play a dvd for first time on my 18.04 system using mate. vlc gives me blank video, choppy audio. what package am i missing?
[21:37] <p0a> says I have texlive-full installed... but tikzcd is missing?
[21:37] <p0a> roboto79: does vlc give you any diagnostics?
[21:37] <bprompt> hmm
[21:38] <bprompt> p0a:  I have a full tex-live installation and never used tikzcd myself :), kubuntu 16.04
[21:38] <p0a> bprompt: lemme check sth. What do you use if not tikzcd?
[21:38] <roboto79> vlc plays it. i did not start from term though. i get no video, just the pylon, audio very choppy.
[21:38] <bprompt> p0a:  don't need it I guess :)
[21:38] <bprompt> p0a:  I do quite a bit of LaTeX, and have a full tex-live installation
[21:38] <p0a> roboto79: vlc should be giving out some errors/warnings. Take a look.
[21:39] <p0a> bprompt: do you want a cookie or what
[21:39] <ducasse> !dvd | roboto79
[21:40] <bprompt> roboto79:  a dvd from the optical DVD drive as in /dev/sdvd? or an mp4 or mkv file?
[21:40] <smacktalk>  EriC^^ are you here?
[21:40] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:40] <roboto79> video DVD. Just got in mail today
[21:40] <roboto79> mounted as /dev/sr0
[21:41] <p0a> Apparnetly it's called tikz-cd oops. Nevemrind guys
[21:41] <EriC^^> smacktalk: what's up?
[21:41] <smacktalk> I did that command you suggeste
[21:42] <bprompt> roboto79:   hmmm not sure if 18.04 uses still, but I install libdvd-pkg, I am running 16.04
[21:42] <smacktalk> EriC^^ k if i open a brief chat session
[21:43] <smacktalk> I don't want to share with the whole group
[21:43] <EriC^^> smacktalk: there shouldnt be anything sensitive there
[21:43] <roboto79> went to link someone sent. cut/paste their line. i already have the packages, and they r up to date
[21:43] <EriC^^> smacktalk: it's boot.log and syslog right?
[21:43] <bprompt> roboto79:  from what I can tell, libdvd-pkg does about what the libdvdcss2 package used to do
[21:43] <roboto79> bprompt yea, libdvd-pkg installed
[21:44] <smacktalk> I only got syslog
[21:44] <smacktalk> oh got boot.log now
[21:44] <smacktalk> https://termbin.com/ygjd
[21:46] <smacktalk> https://termbin.com/90yb
[21:50] <littlekimmy> hi
[21:51] <littlekimmy> when i open a file it opens in gedit, but I want it to open in emacs
[21:51] <littlekimmy> in FM sometimes though it opens in emacs but sometimes in gedit?
[21:51] <tomreyn> frequency modulation?
[21:55] <bprompt> FM = file manager, methinks
[21:55] <bprompt> that's acronym 100,001 in the computer dictionary
[21:55] <ducasse> then that is what they should write, as it's not obvious
[21:56] <bprompt> ducasse:  fully agree :)
[22:06] <puff> Doing a fresh install for the first time in quite a while, it's asking me for a password for (or to set up an account for) Ubuntu Single Sign On.  What's the deal with this?  Is this just Ubuntu One rebranded or something else?
[22:09] <puff> Most of what I can find in google about Ubuntu Single Sign On is past-tense. Hm.
[22:10] <thenori> Log in - Ubuntu Single Sign On
[22:10] <thenori> [Search domain login.ubuntu.com] https://login.ubuntu.com
[22:10] <thenori> Ubuntu One is the single account you use to log in to all services and sites related to Ubuntu. If you have an existing Ubuntu Single Sign On account, this is now called your Ubuntu One account.
[22:10] <thenori> That's the first google result for 'Ubuntu Single Sign On'
[22:10] <thenori> add'ly "Your Ubuntu One account - Ubuntu Single Sign On"
[22:11] <thenori> From what I can tell, it's both a deprecated service and a synonym for Ubuntu One
[22:14] <puff> Then why is 18 LTS asking me to sign into it?
[22:17] <tomreyn> puff: Ubuntu One used to be both the sigle sign-on and a file storage service. nowadays it's just the single sign-on service, which grants access to Launchpad, but also to contract based and commercial Canonical services.
[22:19] <tomreyn> but also to several community oriented services such as forums and the like.
[22:19] <puff> tomreyn: ah, thanks.
[22:20] <puff> What do you think about livepatch, should I set it up?
[22:20] <tomreyn> puff: i think the reason the ubuntu desktop installer asks for it (which is entirely optional) is to enable you to subscribe to livepatch
[22:21] <tomreyn> !livepatch
[22:22] <tomreyn> up to you, it's a canonical service. most volunteers here prefer just helping out with ubuntu itself.
[22:22] <puff> Hm, I just reset my password via the web browser on another machine but the dialog on the freshly installed machine doesn't like the new password.  It doesn't give me any option to change the username, which is spelled with spaces.
[22:22] <puff> tomreyn: I'm not sure what you mean by "just helping out with ubuntu itself".
[22:22] <tomreyn> puff: ubuntu,t he operating system you downloaded and installed.
[22:23] <tomreyn> in contrary to commercial software-as-a-service offerings
[22:24] <puff> tomreyn: aha.
[22:26] <tomreyn> there is #ubuntuone for issues with the SSO
[22:26] <mcseccne> I installed livepatch on my system wanted to see what the deal was...not sure if it can be removed or not but once installed it didnt cause me any issues
[22:27] <puff> tomreyn: Thanks.  I'll skip livepatch for now I guess.
[22:27] <tomreyn> mcseccne: it's a snap, can be managed using the "snap" command.
[22:27] <mcseccne> for me its nice for it to update and not rebbot
[22:27] <mcseccne> reboot
[22:27] <tomreyn> !snap
[22:28] <mcseccne> livepatch nis free for the first three
[22:28] <mcseccne> machines
[22:29] <tomreyn> for personal, non-commercial, use, yes
[22:29] <mcseccne> both
[22:29] <kxsl> source code: the original distro independent package format
[22:29] <tomreyn> smacktalk: did you have any ubuntu questions there?
[22:30] <mcseccne> if you need more than three then you pay small fee to my knowledge is good for production systems you dont want to take down with certain updates
[22:31] <mcseccne> I often used to see system needs reboot I havent seen that since installing livepatch
[22:32] <mcseccne> thank you tomreyn good to know
[22:33] <kxsl> so what does livepatch do? if the packages don't genuinely need reboots but say they do anyway, aren't those bugs?
[22:33] <tomreyn> mcseccne: you're welcome. there's also a discussion channel at #ubuntu-discuss for non ubuntu support topics.
[22:33] <tomreyn> kxsl: would you like to join, too?
[22:34] <kxsl> joined
[22:36] <arooni> how do i change which editor sudo crontab -e uses?  i've already tried running sudo su; then select-editor; or update-alternatives --config editor ;; doesnt seem to work for new sudo crontab -e requests
[22:37] <arooni> maybe i have to log out and back in for select-editor to work?
[22:37] <EdFletcherT137> arooni: set EDITOR env var
[22:39] <GWM> So I have a stupid question, what is the name of the actual input block itself in a terminal? I mean, the blank space that is sometimes colored by bash
[22:40] <EdFletcherT137> GWM: generally referred to as the "cursor"
[22:41] <GWM> Never gave it a thought
[22:41] <GWM> Thanks you
[22:41] <EdFletcherT137> I had to think about myself! not something that often comes up :) you're very welcome GWM
[22:57] <len> Hey guys! I run apt upgrade and lost connection to my SSH. Can I somehow recover this shell session or at least send "N" to *** telegraf.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] choice... ?
[22:58] <tomreyn> if you ran it in a byobu, tmux or screen session, yes, otherwise, maybe, but not really.
[22:59] <tomreyn> the official answer would be "no", and you should probably just kill the hanging debconf or dpkg process.
[23:00] <tomreyn> pstree, then find the lowest one
[23:01] <tomreyn> for the hack-ish "not really" method, look into   reptyr -T
[23:03] <tomreyn> len: but, when connecting through a network (or any other not 100% reliable) link, make sure you run any process which may require input or create output you don't want to miss in a terminal multiplexer in the future.
[23:04] <len> Yeah I'm aware I did it wrong this time. Thanks guys I will kill this session and start it over.
[23:10] <tomreyn> don't kill the session, just kill the hanging process, the other processes should temrinate gracefully then.
[23:14] <len> tomreyn: done, thank you - looks like everything is okay. I will install reptyr just to be safe next time
[23:31] <roboto79> ok. have problem. vlc will not play video of a store dvd. i can get dvd menus. when i choose an episode, i get no video and choppy audio. however, if i start vlc, and choose no dvd menus, video vob files play perfect. what gives
[23:35] <tomreyn> !dvdcss
[23:36] <tomreyn> !dvd
[23:36] <roboto79> installed. read where deleting .dvdcss dir and letting it rebuild may not. not so.
[23:37] <roboto79> ubottu been there. have all the packages install. ran dpkg-reconfigure for libdvd-pkg
[23:39] <tomreyn> hmm i wouldn't know then, haven't done dvd's in years.
[23:40] <roboto79> tomreyn yea, me either, but bought this older tv series. want to put it on my nas. even if i copy the vob to my desktop it has same playback probs.
[23:41] <kxsl> how did you copy the disc? i usually use dvdbackup and the backups it makes always work the same way as the original discs
[23:41] <oerheks> i switched from vlc to gnome-mpv
[23:42] <oerheks> same procedure for dvd codecs install and upgrade
[23:42] <roboto79> kxsl, i can get to the disc through any file manager, or term. so i just cp file.vob to desktop
[23:42] <oerheks> and if buttons do not work, use keyboard
[23:43] <roboto79> oerheks, apt cant find gnome-mpv
[23:44] <oerheks> should be, in universe repo
[23:44] <kxsl> i always copy the entire disc with dvdbackup's mirror mode. i dont take specific titles or files. i dont like taking the time to figure that out at rip time and the extra disc space needed for the extra titles is usually negligible compared to the space needed for the main title
[23:47] <roboto79> kxsl, i will try dvdbackup. i dont worry about disk space. i have 21TB for movie space
[23:48] <kxsl> i use handbrake to convert the files to h265+opus. most movies from dvds come out to several hundred mbs
[23:50] <roboto79> handbrake always locks up on me, dunno why.
[23:51] <kxsl> i don't know about that, i encode with it on windows so i can use my gpus
[23:55] <ducasse> handbrake should be able to use gpu accel now, i think, at least for intel
[23:56] <roboto79> trying dvdbackup... seems to be mirroring it but have to see if it will play once backed up
[23:59] <roboto79> kxsl, dvdbackup worked. i can play the separate vob file. thx